Prestige Titles - Opinions Wanted

here here! Couldn't agree with you more! I couldn't be prouder of getting legendary survivor and it definitely opened doors to more titles with all the elite capping it involved. Koss, Souske and Dunkoro were about my only aids besides aone or two guildys and it was an enjoyable challenge.

The ones I'd say I most admire would be treasure hunter top rank. Vanquisher sure, I could never be bothered with something so time consuming but I admire anyones determination taking on that task.

All pvp titles are worthless. .....


wow wtf are you on......you got it mixed up.....all pve titles show is that you got time not skills.

pvp is what its all about. there it is skill that is respected not endless Ai bashing. Wow look i can run around and un-lock chests.....OOOOOOO .

Wow look i can run around spend endless hours beating missions that are the same every time.

i hate to tell you this but PVP and PVP titles own anything PvE although PvE can be fun don't even try to compare it to PvP.

If you are talking about time spent then most of the titles show prestige. If you are talking about skill then that's a lot different.

When it comes to skill, only the Guardian and Vanquisher titles show prestige.

The others merely show dedication and ludicrous amounts of time spent. Although I disagree with the OP criticizing titles that can be bought as "less prestigious", because to get 2 million+ gold to get those titles maxed is a lot harder to do than to get most of the non-buyable titles.

Protector - easy as pie to get. No challenge whatsoever in any of the 3 campaigns, other perhaps than bad NPC AI causing unfair failures on occassion.

Legendary Survivor - can be gotten by letting Heroes and Hench do almost everything whilst you are out of aggro range, then doorman'ing once you are at Lut. Or other methods in which you can also remain out of aggro range whilst racking up the XP.

Drunkard & Sweet Tooth, and Lucky & Unlucky - shows you are probably good at solo farming ectos but thats about where the prestige for this ends, albeit that's much more of an accomplishment than say "Protector" is.

Legendary Skill Hunter - easy as pie to get. Only somewhat hard cap in all 3 games is Feast of Corruption and maybe the Sunjiang Construct caps. Other than that, there this is no challenge whatsoever to any of the caps. Although it does take a lot of gold which indicates once again you are good at farming.

Maxed Sunspear and Lightbringer - by far the easiest titles in the game to get, takes no skill whatsoever, you can just flag worms to the enemies and not do a darn thing other than that as the points roll in.

Champion, Hero, Gladiator - likely show your team quite often used the common and effective "cookie cutter" builds made by other people. The higher the rank just means that one has done this more often than someone of lower rank. Albeit ranked players are indeed usually way better than unranked players, but skill level as determined by rank caps out at around Rank 9 or so. Ranks above a certain point do not mean a player is better, just that he grinded out more points.

Defender of Ascalon - takes no skill whatsoever.

Commander - can be rolled. Even if not rolled, the only sure thing it indicates a lot of time spent participating in Hero Battles.

Cartographer - only shows you are good at pixel-hunting. And likely good at knowing how to use Photoshop to help you pixel-hunt since there are no in-game helpers to indicate what areas still need to be further pixel-hunted (ie: it was often suggest to change the zone name to gold if you pixel-hunted it completely and there was no more fog to uncover, but alas this was never implemented hence the best cartographers must resort to Photoshop in it's place).

Allegiance - only shows you are very dedicated to participating in AB or FFF constantly. FFF does take some skill to run properly at top efficiency, however that alone is not enough in and of itself to give Allegiance titles "prestige".

Treasure Hunter & Wisdom - only shows you are good at clicking on treasure chests and likely good at farming ectos and likely good at selling things via trade spamming so that you have money for keys/lockpicks to open more treasure chests.

Gamer - only shows you are good at exploiting every nuance of the map in the exact one perfect way that brings a top score time and time again. This does take some skill to do, however that alone is not enough to give the Gamer title "prestige".

i personally think that the maxed titles are most prestigious. even if a few of them are bought/farmed/whatever after a certain point there has to be titles in there that also require a lot of skill and effort.
for example, i currently have 14 maxed titles, giving me "people know me". i don't pvp except when i have a hankering for it, so they are all pve titles (4 cartographer, 4 skill hunter, 2 guardian, 3 protector, and sunspear). not one of those can be bought. yes, some required a nice chunk of change or a huge dedication of time, but i don't consider any of them farmed/bought/afk'd. the only title i'm working on that is purely cost related is sweet tooth.
i put a lot of effort into all of those titles, and PKM is a nice summary of that.
kudos to whoever that was with the 25 titles, btw! hope you get a nice shiny new title when they up the maxed track. makes it seem unfair that i will have the same title soon but have a whole 10 fewer titles than you, huh?

In many cases, a title's beauty is in the eye of the holder. Most of them can be gotten the easy way, or the hard way. Many have different levels of difficulty in ways of gaining the title. Example:

Protector of-----:
Easiest way: pay for Mission Runners
Easy way: Guildies
Not as easy: Heros/Henchmen
Harder: all henchmen
Hardest: PUGs - only because it may take a couple of tries to find a good one.

The only person that knows what method they used to get their title is the one wearing it. But the most impressive PvE titles out there must be the Vanquisher & Guardian titles. The challenge there lies in having a party build that can work well in every situation you face in each area. (stupid Grawl Ulodytes!)

I see bashing on all the other titles for heavenly grind but no one bashes the guardian and vanquisher titles so please allow me to spit on the titles you worked on and put them on the same level as the ones you don't have.
Okz, those two titles pve nuff said. Just kidding but I can use the same arguements you used against the other titles to bring it down: They take a large ammount of time, there's an easy way out. Just guild it with over powered builds or solo builds. Beating Ai's it's nothing special. Shows you got a lot of time to keep agroing only small groups or wiki builds for pve. If your a farmer then this is np np. Heros and henches at your side it's a cake walk compared to soloing. Use teh exploits and teh holiday items!

See now pretty much every title is worth it only to the person who got it. Who cares if you have a title, if you suck then you suck. I'm still going to kick you out of the party.

I think most titles are prestigious in some way. If people have put effort into earning them then that title is worth something - to them and to me if I notice them. And not just those which may require skill; even skill-less titles can show that people still dedicated themselves to attaining it.

But people earn titles in different ways. Regarding Legendary Survivor, for example, some people do actually kill and cap their way to that experience level while fully participating in engagements. That is, not having experience points farmed for them and not letting heroes and henchmen do everything for you. That said, it's impossible to distinguish between more and less skilled ways of earning a title.

I respect medium-to-high PvP ranks and certain PvE ones. Vanquishing titles, as others have said, KoaBD and the subsequent ranks of that title track, and others. Especially those people who successfully vanquished Poisoned Outcrops. I found that very difficult.

Titles only show that a person has spent alot of time working on titles.

I have a bunch of titles that I got because I had nothing else to do. And really, they're all just about time. Some titles take more time than others. Some can be bought (which either means you spent time getting money, or ebayed).

I don't think that a title showing that you've played a game for enough time to get that title is prestigious at all. It's not "hard work" to play a game all day long... if anything it says the opposite.

Most titles are worthless, they give you a few words under your name, and probably a holiday hat type thing when GW 2 comes around. The titles that I care about? Lightbringer, Sunspear, and to a lesser extent, Kurzick/Luxon. These titles are the only ones that really add much benefit.

Hard Mode titles, they are somewhat challenging, but not much. Every now and then I will just go vanquish a place for a laugh.

PvP titles, look up build on the wiki, unlock the skills, grind for a month, then repeat when your overpowered build gets nerfed.

I don't look at people with fancy titles and armor and think, wow they own. I blame my friend though, 2 weeks after he bought Prophecies, he had Protector title and 100% explored. The only help he needed was dunes bonus and finding a little piece of his map.

I do have one maxed title, I got protector of tyria on my assassin, took me 11 hours, which included running myself to most of the missions, and doing all of the bonuses.

Anybody with a gladiator title gets +respect from me. Most of the other titles I question how much time people have on their hands.

I like titles that show skill. So basically that means commander or gladiator. Hall of Heroes doesn't cut it for me.

Gladiator titles, if gotten in RA, based on luck. Getting lucky that you don't face 2 monks a restro rit, and a spirit spamming rit on your 9th battle, getting lucky that your team doesn't leave, and just getting lucky in general. You can suck and the 3 others CAN win it. You can also be extremely good, but your team can still drop the ball. So to me, it is luck/grind. Not even relaxing grind either, aggravating as hell. Oh, then you have the RA sync'ers.

Commander, I know there was a lot of /roll'ing, but don't know if that's how it is anymore.

You just described a team with hardly any damage and getting lucky 10 times in a row which you then must be lucky enough to do 25 times for a title sounds like you've got to be pretty lucky.
But I assume titles are just for people who like grind. I mean I'd grind for LvL in gw2 just for looking cool with a high lvl. Like lv 100 or lv 999 even if it did'nt do much. But a cool aura or effect for high lvs would be nice.

I really don't get why people care so much if people pay for titles or whatever. I think they showed a lot of determination to get said title because chances are, they shelled out a lot of money. Who cares if someone is rich and "buys" their title. They all take time and patience. I don't feel that my wisdom title is cheapen by the fact that someone may have bought theirs. Getting the gold to get that title is very tough, assuming they didn't eBay it or something.

I just don't really think any titles have been cheapened by anything.

It doesn't matter if they have damage or not. If they refuse to leave, and you can't kill them...you either:

A.) Leave yourself, which you lose your win streak.

or

B.) Wait for 2 hours, and both teams lose.

I have had this happen many times. People are even asses about it. "Come on, we have won 9 already, just leave please because you have no damage anyway."..."Stfu noob"

So PvE can't be compared to PvP - BUT PvP can be compared to PvE to make a valid remark that PvP > PvE?
Seriously dude - if you try to belittle other players opinions by adding universal truths - the least thing you can try to do is try to make sure that the universal truth isn't in contradiction with itself!
PvP titles are more interesting in PvP then PvE titles - BUT PvE titles are more interesting in PvE then PvP titles (except for the zoo-emote BECAUSE of the special effect!).

The titles that raise my interest today are high tiers or Lucky/Unlucky.
Why?
Because I love that title.
Does it say anything about the player behind it?
Nope - it just looks pretty!

None, they're all just a sign of too much time investment and I'd be careful to give them too much of a meaning because nobody will remember you for it and only weak personalities (MMOs seem to be full of them) will admire you.

All titles are "how much time will I spend farming X"

PvP titles are farmed by PUGs all day long. PvE titles are farmed by people all day long. They're all just time and/or gold sinks.

Theoretical player X obs spiked his champ points during a double champ point weekend, got his gladiator points with assassins in TA dead hours, and IWAY'd his rank 8. Respect?

Not to say that this is commonplace by any standards, but it has happened.. goes to show that you should never place any judgement just from seeing a title.

i can press 1 on my keyboard in a 321 countdown! OOOOOOOOO

pve titles should be respected just as much as pvp imo, all this elitist crap does my head in.

in short AI > pvp noobs, and trust me, there are plenty of them to farm glad pts off etc.

I do have 4 maxed titles (3 protector and LB8 @ 90K points because of DoA), but honestly, I think a player is most prestigious when he shows off the kind of pet he has (although this too can easily be bought these days)