What does GW:EN offer me as a PvP gamer?
InfernalSuffering
I have recently been reading all of the information on the website about GW:EN. I havent done pve in the last 4 months or so and it seems that this is all GW:EN is geared towards. I am kind of stuck because I have to get the 50 new skills for each profession to stay competitive in pvp but it that it? Is GW:EN technically a PvE expansion? Will we get a PvP expansion? So basically my main question is "Is there going to be PvP gameplay material/expansion in GW:EN and if not, why?".
Bryant Again
I think there's going to be new skills...
Aside from that, though, maybe a new Guild Hall, or two?
That's not much, is it?
Aside from that, though, maybe a new Guild Hall, or two?
That's not much, is it?
-Loki-
100 new skills usable in PvP. other than that, they said any PvP changes will be in live updates, not tied to EotN.
LifeInfusion
skills
...like all the other campaigns
EDIT: heroes also
...like all the other campaigns
EDIT: heroes also
AlienFromBeyond
Yeah, 100 new skills, and some new heroes. That's all we know so far for PvP, though they've said other stuff will be through live updates (free).
I say quit whining and let PvEers have their day.
I say quit whining and let PvEers have their day.
Hou Lifu
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Yeah, 100 new skills, and some new heroes. That's all we know so far for PvP, though they've said other stuff will be through live updates (free).
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Master Ketsu
The true boon to gwen is that with the new pve only skills, the other skills can be buffed/nerfed to be more pvp worthy without having to worry about too much whining from pve'rs.
Splatter Mcnasty
Brass knuckle arena maybe?
We know there will be a PVE one, maybe they'll offer one for pvp too.
We know there will be a PVE one, maybe they'll offer one for pvp too.
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond
I say quit whining and let PvEers have their day.
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I say give some more love to PvP.
lyra_song
Im sure there will be more Guild Hall maps for GvG.
new skills and heroes, as other people have outlined.
whats this "cracked armor" thing about.....?
new skills and heroes, as other people have outlined.
whats this "cracked armor" thing about.....?
Kas
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
PvEers have their day, every day.
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You PVP lot never cease to amuse me with your egocentric melodrama
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Kas
You PVP lot never cease to amuse me with your egocentric melodrama
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I doubt GW:EN would be any different.
ANTICANCER
all i can say is why should PvPers get anything all your whining causes us PvEers to get screwed the Sr nerf was because you complain, SF being nerf was because you guys complain. just about every skill nerf is because of the PvP players. also you guys get a chance to obtain weapons that us PvEers do not. so i dont wanna here crap about you guys not getting anything from GWEN. YOU DO NOT DESERVE ANYTHING.
fenix
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Originally Posted by ANTICANCER
all i can say is why should PvPers get anything all your whining causes us PvEers to get screwed the Sr nerf was because you complain, SF being nerf was because you guys complain. just about every skill nerf is because of the PvP players. also you guys get a chance to obtain weapons that us PvEers do not. so i dont wanna here crap about you guys not getting anything from GWEN. YOU DO NOT DESERVE ANYTHING.
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Anyway, back to the OP. Basically, GW:EN will be a few new imba skills, and that's about it. Unfortunately Anet have been neglecting some big PvP changes (aside from AT's, which sucked) with new chapters, and since they've basically stated that this is a PvE-only chapter, it'll be much of the same.
Bryant Again
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Originally Posted by Kas
You PVP lot never cease to amuse me with your egocentric melodrama
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Kook~NBK~
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Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond
I say quit whining and let PvEers have their day.
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The fact of the matter is that they haven't said much about how GW:EN will affect PvP. It would be nice to hear something about that aspect of the game.
P.S. I'm a PvE person, so don't even go there.
Muspellsheimr
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FoxBat
After Nightfall, do you want them to add anything to PvP?
They should at least add a few new hero battle maps. They are so small anyway and we need more than the lousy four.
They should at least add a few new hero battle maps. They are so small anyway and we need more than the lousy four.
Kakumei
Probably nothing at all.
But that might be for the best.
But that might be for the best.
GloryFox
Almost the same thing Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall offered.
Skills (not that it matters since PvP uses very few select skills overall)
Guild Halls
However you just might see a boxing arena, or a Polymock arena, ANET has not fully specified what will be transposed to PvP from the wonderful PvE experience.
Skills (not that it matters since PvP uses very few select skills overall)
Guild Halls
However you just might see a boxing arena, or a Polymock arena, ANET has not fully specified what will be transposed to PvP from the wonderful PvE experience.
Voltar
a 1v1 dueling arena would be sweet. i kinda use the guild scrimmage for that but some kinda simple dueling would be nice.
(and enough with the tired pve vs pvp crap. it's old, inaccurate and boring. i have my opinion too but i'm keeping it to myself. though i guess we should call it pvevpvp...maybe then it would cool...then the pve+pvpers could comlpain that complaining got nerfed or something and it's all the pvevpvpers' faults.)
(and enough with the tired pve vs pvp crap. it's old, inaccurate and boring. i have my opinion too but i'm keeping it to myself. though i guess we should call it pvevpvp...maybe then it would cool...then the pve+pvpers could comlpain that complaining got nerfed or something and it's all the pvevpvpers' faults.)
Thunder79
What is PvP content? I mean seriously...you get new skills, new maps, new heroes, new professions, and new play types maybe...other than that is there anything? Just like every one of the campaigns this expasion will probably offer the same bag (minus professions but pve doesn't get that either)...so it's up to you whether or not that's worth the price.
The campaigns and expansions are primarily for PvE players because our content runs out after a while...whereas PvP content is generated all the time...by other players. The "metagame" is your constant infusion of content...changes in the "metagame" are the changes in your content...the constant changing of tactics is what changes your game. If you are not satisfied by that and the additions made with additional PvE centric expansions (campaigns and expansions)...then maybe you should find something else to play.
Yes the campaigns and expansions are PvE-centric...that is the nature of the beast...it is something to offer PvE players so they will continue to play the game.
PvP and PvE are two very different beasts....just like "balance" in pvp is very different from "balance" in pve...."content" in pvp is very different from "content" in pve. Really it all comes down to this..."balance" is more important to PvP and "content" is more important to PvE.
The campaigns and expansions are primarily for PvE players because our content runs out after a while...whereas PvP content is generated all the time...by other players. The "metagame" is your constant infusion of content...changes in the "metagame" are the changes in your content...the constant changing of tactics is what changes your game. If you are not satisfied by that and the additions made with additional PvE centric expansions (campaigns and expansions)...then maybe you should find something else to play.
Yes the campaigns and expansions are PvE-centric...that is the nature of the beast...it is something to offer PvE players so they will continue to play the game.
PvP and PvE are two very different beasts....just like "balance" in pvp is very different from "balance" in pve...."content" in pvp is very different from "content" in pve. Really it all comes down to this..."balance" is more important to PvP and "content" is more important to PvE.
Sir Green Aluminum
New Gimmick builds will be delivered unto you, you just have to get a head start and study the new skills and see how you can break through the "balance" and have a few days of Ha and GvG control before people observer mode yous' build and it gets stolen.
KicknDave
Oh noes, they nerfed easy mode skills *gasp*.
Detraya fullvear
lets see what the past campaigns offered shall we?
Prophecies- Ra,TA,GVG, and HA. -this campaign pwns.
Factions-AB,Fort aspenwood, Jade quarry - not so much pwnege, but still decent.
nightfall- Hero Battles..... yeahh......
eye of the north- hopefully a boxing arena, and a polymuck arena.
Prophecies- Ra,TA,GVG, and HA. -this campaign pwns.
Factions-AB,Fort aspenwood, Jade quarry - not so much pwnege, but still decent.
nightfall- Hero Battles..... yeahh......
eye of the north- hopefully a boxing arena, and a polymuck arena.
Yanman.be
Hero's have nothing to do with PvP anyways. Same with Alliance Battles.
Master Ketsu
it would be nice to see skills that are anti - gimmick meta.
Example monk elite:
Shield of attunement:
Cost: 5E
Time:1/4
Recharge: 7 Seconds
Elite enchantment spell. For 20 seconds, the next time target ally takes damage that ally gains +20...75 armor against the type of damage taken for 5 seconds.
Fun way to stop burst sins and rit spike eh ?
Example monk elite:
Shield of attunement:
Cost: 5E
Time:1/4
Recharge: 7 Seconds
Elite enchantment spell. For 20 seconds, the next time target ally takes damage that ally gains +20...75 armor against the type of damage taken for 5 seconds.
Fun way to stop burst sins and rit spike eh ?
Yichi
From everythign thats come with the previous chapters, one word comes into mind: Imbalance
Evilsod
The question is not 'what will GWEN bring to PvP?'. Its 'How long till Anet sort out the major imbalances caused by the new GWEN skills?'
Darko_UK
Seriously I wish they would bring in a REAL 1 v 1 arena not this lame hero battle stuff where 99% of people are running the exact same builds all day
GD Defender
What is PvP getting out of this? More balance. Thanks to PvE skills, they don't have to worry quite as much about keeping skills worth using for PvE while keeping the everchanging PvP arena balanced.
.. Of course, this balance will only come after the initial overpowered skills are fixed. >_>
.. Of course, this balance will only come after the initial overpowered skills are fixed. >_>
Evilsod
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Seriously I wish they would bring in a REAL 1 v 1 arena not this lame hero battle stuff where 99% of people are running the exact same builds all day
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lutz
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Factions and Nightfall were additions far more catering to PvE
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You serious?
Master Ketsu
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Onarik Amrak
I'd guess new maps for RA, TA and the like.
Sparks Dawnbringer
Who cares. About time the Pve got some attention. I am so sick of the PvP players winning about ele skills maybe with now we can have an ele that is worth taking out of storage!
Redfeather1975
Maybe they will add new armour options to PVP characters.
Tozen
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Originally Posted by -Loki-
100 new skills usable in PvP. other than that, they said any PvP changes will be in live updates, not tied to EotN.
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GWEN will also allow access to Hero Battles as well for those who didn't purchase Nightfall.
Hell Raiser
They will add things that PvPers don't need: new skills, new skins, new maps. It should be obvious that they would focus on PvEers, they are the main source of income. PvEers thrive on new content, new chapters/expansions/free updates provide that content (and Anet makes money). PvPers don't need to, their content changes when a new build is developed (and they get free updates, where's Anet's money? Well if you want to keep up with the rest, you buy the new skills).
MrFuzzles
Am I the only one thinking it's kinda amusing with all the anti-"pvp elitist" elitism going on?