The Story Behind Gwen
lorddeatheagle
Gwen will definitely be making an appearance in nightfall. All speculation both humorous and serious can go here. What did become of the little girl with her cape, flute, iris flowers and her prized tapestry shred?
Ecklipze
Gwen is overrated imo.
MSecorsky
That would be interesting... if Gwen shows up during the Dragon Festival as some sort of lead in to GW:EN. I wouldn't mind if she showed up and gave everyone a Norn Beer or Asuran Tequila or the like.
Right after the major earthquake during the Emperors speech Sunday.
Right after the major earthquake during the Emperors speech Sunday.
Willow O Whisper
Or we will be able 2 take revenge on her for what she did at the beta. Gwen pvp ftw.
Caoimhe
Gwen'll show up, nuke us all, and leave the survivors with a pathological fear of little girls and fire.
FlameoutAlchemist
^ That'd be awesome. Gwen strikes in random districts and even takes Kisu out with her.
Or better yet, acts at the behest of Kisu. :O
Or better yet, acts at the behest of Kisu. :O
icymanipulator
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Originally Posted by Ecklipze
Gwen is overrated imo.
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MMSDome
Gwen will be a random NPC in Lions Arch that says nothing.
SlyClone
I think the representation of "Gwen" in the PC Gamer article was very nice. But unfortunately, she doesn't even compare to the Norn on the GW:EN box, which so closely resembles a real life friend I have/want/whatever. Unreal stuff 
It would be sweet if Anet got us a first glance at them "hotties" from the future, including a Sylvari, perhaps?
My Laura's daughter will somehow meet some cool Sylvari dude in a deep forest setting and, well, one thing will lead to another and I will absolutely have to create a Sylvari Elementalist when I get GW2.
Off topic: I love this game, more than anything else this ruined planet can offer. So much more!
EDIT: OH OH WAIT!!! I forgot to tell someone who annoys me alot where to go. Zinger, ol buddy ol pal. Here's your new home: (which is temporarily unavailable atm, LMFAO) www.worldofwarcraft.com all future posts by YOU, should go there. no? I think the majority of Guru forum members have to agree that you have revoked your say in these forums when you told us the other day that you don't even play GW, YET you still lurk here and pretend you know what you are talking about because you are ADDICTED MAN!!! ADDICTED to Guru-ing about GW. Admit it. You are addicted to making sure you get the witty/slightly intelligent/well researched posts. and from now on, I won't even bother reading what you say. Including that lame reply that's brewing in your head as you read this. Get it? You seek attention from the people you shunned. You regret saying that you quit GW. And it will haunt you for ever.
One more wee little thing: I still play GW, and will never stop. And if I do stop playing GW, WoW will not be on my list of best things to do with my free time. kthxbye
It would be sweet if Anet got us a first glance at them "hotties" from the future, including a Sylvari, perhaps?
My Laura's daughter will somehow meet some cool Sylvari dude in a deep forest setting and, well, one thing will lead to another and I will absolutely have to create a Sylvari Elementalist when I get GW2.
Off topic: I love this game, more than anything else this ruined planet can offer. So much more!
EDIT: OH OH WAIT!!! I forgot to tell someone who annoys me alot where to go. Zinger, ol buddy ol pal. Here's your new home: (which is temporarily unavailable atm, LMFAO) www.worldofwarcraft.com all future posts by YOU, should go there. no? I think the majority of Guru forum members have to agree that you have revoked your say in these forums when you told us the other day that you don't even play GW, YET you still lurk here and pretend you know what you are talking about because you are ADDICTED MAN!!! ADDICTED to Guru-ing about GW. Admit it. You are addicted to making sure you get the witty/slightly intelligent/well researched posts. and from now on, I won't even bother reading what you say. Including that lame reply that's brewing in your head as you read this. Get it? You seek attention from the people you shunned. You regret saying that you quit GW. And it will haunt you for ever.
One more wee little thing: I still play GW, and will never stop. And if I do stop playing GW, WoW will not be on my list of best things to do with my free time. kthxbye
scrinner
I guess that little bit will be snipped out by the moderators but it was funny while it lasted Lmao.
Do you mean Gwen appearing during the festival? I dont know if you mean nightfall the game.... or the time the day changes to night.. or what
Do you mean Gwen appearing during the festival? I dont know if you mean nightfall the game.... or the time the day changes to night.. or what
The Defiled Knight
Who cares it's a little girl with a red cape and a flute why is everyoen so obsessed with finding out what happened to her???
Caoimhe
I imagine the reasons people care are as varied as the people are. Some are parents, and can sympathize. Others may be older brothers or sisters. Others may just be sensitive people. Only those who care know their reasons, and those who don't know their reasons, too.
Celestial_Kitsune
Caoimhe
Might want to NSFW that link, Kitsune.
holyjew888
haha, nice gwen comic
arbiter
lol wow you guys are so far off, gwen becomes consumed with the charr's dark magic but from some freak of nature she is able to harness the power and she becomes the Undead Lich. Anet let me on to it, but dont tell any1 ok
ShadowStorm
This panel of Kitsune's linked comic is pure comedy gold.
Havre Fras
Gwen will appear in Nightfall? Or is it Gwen will appear at nightfall?
I'm confused.
I'm confused.
icymanipulator
That comic is exactly what I was talking about. Its a sickness, but nothing a prison sentence couldn't fix. Just think in the real world you get to be famous and printed in the newspaper...if thats not incentive to obsess about a pre-pubescent fictional girl I don't know what is.
KANE OG
We'll all find out what happenned to Gwen after the searing by spending our hard-earned money in the online store and getting the bonus mission pack. anet's plan all along to raise earnings and/or awareness on the store.
KANE
KANE
Mordakai
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That comic is exactly what I was talking about. Its a sickness, but nothing a prison sentence couldn't fix. Just think in the real world you get to be famous and printed in the newspaper...if thats not incentive to obsess about a pre-pubescent fictional girl I don't know what is.
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That was pretty tame to some of the crazy stuff I've seen...
I do agree in part that the mystery of Gwen has been built up so much, there is no way it will be satisfying. One thing we do know, the answer of what exactly happened to Gwen will not be found in Eye of the North... it will be in a bonus mission offered on the online store.
I suspect Gwen will just be a Mesmer Hero in Eye of the North. No more, no less.
icymanipulator
Its not an overreaction its realistic. Obsession about a fictional character ala Lara Croft is very bizarre, but at least she is portrayed as an adult in a provocative manner. Obsession about a fictional child is a sexual deviant waiting to happen, particularly when there is nothing overly sexual presented in Guild Wars about her. Its called pedophilia, look it up.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by icymanipulator
Its not an overreaction its realistic. Obsession about a fictional character ala Lara Croft is very bizarre, but at least she is portrayed as an adult in a provocative manner. Obsession about a fictional child is a sexual deviant waiting to happen, particularly when there is nothing overly sexual presented in Guild Wars about her. Its called pedophilia, look it up.
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Seriously, dude, you need to rent some adult anime or something.
This is nothing. And basically you're arguing that playing GTA will make me a car-jacking gangster. Art is not real life!
(and anyway, the sexual situations in the comic are of Gwen as an adult. So, no, not pedophilia!)
I'll never understand people's aversion to sex. Show a girl chopping someone's foot off, good. Sex with an adult woman, bad.
icymanipulator
Get out and experience what the real world has to offer. I promise you its more than an "adult anime" or what GTA's hot coffee will do for you. Sex with a real woman is healthy, fantasizing about a cartoon or physical violence is not. If anything that link should be NSFW or removed from the thread entirely.
Mordakai
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Get out and experience what the real world has to offer. I promise you its more than an "adult anime" or what GTA's hot coffee will do for you. Sex with a real woman is healthy, fantasizing about a cartoon or physical violence is not. If anything that link should be NSFW or removed from the thread entirely.
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I think I know something about real life sex, and the consequences and rewards of such activities.
So, fantisizing is unhealthy, huh? Missionary style only, and focus on her eyes. No dirty thoughts, for dirty thoughts will cause dirty deeds.
Come on. This is not child porn. This is a rather humorous comic that all takes place in a dream sequence (see ending). I really don't see how the comic could offend anyone, unless cartoon breasts offend you!
But I'm sure the link will be removed. This is America, after all, where Saw II can be shown in a theater, but a penis can't be.
icymanipulator
What you do in your own personal life is your business. If you are going to quote me then at least read my post. Real world fantasies about real people in an adult context are fine, there is a booming industry in southern California for this very purpose not to mention a pair of magazine moguls.
However there is also nothing wrong with having a conservative value system, it speaks volumes about character. Would you show something like this comic to your child as a form of "sex ed"? Of course not. Its inappropriate you just can't (won't) admit it.
However there is also nothing wrong with having a conservative value system, it speaks volumes about character. Would you show something like this comic to your child as a form of "sex ed"? Of course not. Its inappropriate you just can't (won't) admit it.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by icymanipulator
What you do in your own personal life is your business. If you are going to quote me then at least read my post. Real world fantasies about real people in an adult context are fine, there is a booming industry in southern California for this very purpose not to mention a pair of magazine moguls.
However there is also nothing wrong with having a conservative value system, it speaks volumes about character. Would you show something like this comic to your child as a form of "sex ed"? Of course not. Its inappropriate you just can't (won't) admit it. |
Honestly, I did not find it overtly sexual. Any sexual situation was implied. As I said earlier, it's only offensive if you find breasts offensive.
I think Americans in general are too stuck up on nudity, and not sensitive enough to violence. But that's just my opinion. You have yours, I have mine.
I took issue with you calling the art "pedophilia." I hope you can at least agree that it's not that.
netniwk
Are you all dense?when the charr invaded Ascalon City Gwen ran into the catacombs where she stumbeld upon the Azura.Now she is some kind of Azura god,and they offer flowers and flutes to her everyday 
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Mordakai
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Are you all dense?when the charr invaded Ascalon City Gwen ran into the catacombs where she stumbeld upon the Azura.Now she is some kind of Azura god,and they offer flowers and flutes to her everyday
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I like it. Just make sure Gwen never has sex, or people will be upset....
netniwk
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I like it. Just make sure Gwen never has sex, or people will be upset....
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Mordakai
Asuras and (adult) Gwen orgy... now we are getting somewhere.
Seriously though, if the Asuras are going to based on the Inca/Aztecs, I wonder if they will have sacrifices and stuff...
Seriously though, if the Asuras are going to based on the Inca/Aztecs, I wonder if they will have sacrifices and stuff...
icymanipulator
Its not art and its implied sexual content in relation to a minor, even if she is a fictional character. The "artist" is entitled to his freedom of expression but it treads dangerously close to what SCOTUS considers illegal not to mention immoral in this country. Like I said, you want to get your rocks off to a cartoon then go for it. Don't come on here taking the moral high ground pretending cartoon fetish behavior is average or normal.
Mordakai
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Its not art and its implied sexual content in relation to a minor, even if she is a fictional character. The "artist" is entitled to his freedom of expression but it treads dangerously close to what SCOTUS considers illegal not to mention immoral in this country. Like I said, you want to get your rocks off to a cartoon then go for it. Don't come on here taking the moral high ground pretending cartoon fetish behavior is average or normal.
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I enjoy anime. I see some pretty twisted stuff there, and sometimes it crosses a line, but you know what? That's their right. They can draw WTF they want.
Who are you to judge what is "art" or not? You think the cartoon should be banned? Fine, but thank God the SCOTUS does not agree and still believes in some semblance to free speech in this country.
There's nothing there to "get my rocks off"! It's a cartoon. There's NO actual sex. There's a drawing of a woman naked, who is seducing a dwarf and lich. That's all it really is!
It is not illegal.
ChyldeOfTheLotus
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nothing[/b]. And basically you're arguing that playing GTA will make me a car-jacking gangster.
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Healers Wisper
OMG Icy, you really need to get a woman (or man) and relax. We were told that Gwen "grows up" and people are talking about what she grows up into. Many stories and comics and such have started with people being kids and growing up having sex then babies and their kids doing the same. Get over yourself or go hide in your closet if you have to.
BTW: I thought the comic was very funny and with great artwork. I hope they don't delete it cause of this bonehead sexaphobic (or maybe just nipplephobic) poster.
BTW: I thought the comic was very funny and with great artwork. I hope they don't delete it cause of this bonehead sexaphobic (or maybe just nipplephobic) poster.
icymanipulator
Haven't you ever heard that art is subjective?
Once again read my post before you reply. I don't think the cartoon should be banned the artist has rights under our fine constitution. I do think that link should be flagged NSFW or even removed entirely from this thread. If you want to actively search for cartoons for your own personal (and private) sexual gratification even if they include naked children named Gwen then by all means do so you have that right.
My advice, if you don't want to continue this pointless argument then stop doing ninja edits and stop calling me out for taking offense to the deviant behavior. Its very simple, you stop I stop, and we agree to disagree.
Once again read my post before you reply. I don't think the cartoon should be banned the artist has rights under our fine constitution. I do think that link should be flagged NSFW or even removed entirely from this thread. If you want to actively search for cartoons for your own personal (and private) sexual gratification even if they include naked children named Gwen then by all means do so you have that right.
My advice, if you don't want to continue this pointless argument then stop doing ninja edits and stop calling me out for taking offense to the deviant behavior. Its very simple, you stop I stop, and we agree to disagree.
Mordakai
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The "artist" is entitled to his freedom of expression but it treads dangerously close to what SCOTUS considers illegal not to mention immoral in this country.
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You said a cartoon drawing of a naked woman is "dangerously close to what SCOTUS considers illegal not to mention immoral in this country."
That's total BS. It is not close. It's not even in the same ballpark. It's not even the same game.
Re-read the Comic: "Time passes..."
This is NOT Gwen the girl. She's a woman. And there are only a couple of panels that show her naked, and none doing anything that could be considered "sex". (unless knocking off a dwarf's helmet is considered "sex" to you...)
All sexual content is implied, which means you have to imagine it.
Which I assume you've let your imagination get carried away...
(and please stop calling me a "deviant." I'm not. By any stretch of the imagination).
Healers Wisper
Icy, first off I think your holier then thou attitude is extremely annoying. Remember you started this arguement and nobody forced you to read the comic . I found it entertaining, mildly sexual (besides the Nipples, daytime soaps offer more sex) and a harmless journey into a young girls Fears/Aspirations. So you can continue you rant about how you are better then us and not a pediphile cause you disapprove of this art or you can leave it alone and let your current messeges say what you really mean. I know you have the right to your opinion and I have the right to disagree, One thing you don't have the right to do, however, is force that opinion on me or anyone else in this community, no matter how right you "think" you are.
Dougal Kronik
I think Icymanipulator has some issues that need to be dealt with in a professional manner.
There were no naked children in the comic. Some sort of repressed fantasy coming to the fore.
There were no naked children in the comic. Some sort of repressed fantasy coming to the fore.
icymanipulator
Theres a lesson to be learned in all this I should have taken to heart when I first got going. Never argue with idiots they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. No apologies from me Mordakai, so stop pestering me over PMs. For the rest of you, enjoy your fetish pornography. With any luck they will lock this thread.