Ectos - how low they go.

fabiola

fabiola

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ectos are at trader for 4.9k right now. It sustained 5.5k for a long time but the 5k barrier has been broken, a record low for the year. Time to find a new investment or ride it out? What would be a good alternative? Perhaps the best anwer will apear after gwen release, but then it could be too late.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

When will it go down to 1k?

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Have you seen the price of Jade or Amber? Get ready.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

i hope it stays that way. FoW is half as expensive

Tea Girl

Tea Girl

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Mo/Me

try rubies and sapphires i guess

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

Just think about all those people that got FoW when Ecto was 16k. Bet they are kicking themselves right now.

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

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Well i doubt they will rise unless ANet decide to realease a new set of FoW for some proffesions. No new FoW means not as many people buying, too much going in without demand etc, you know what its like.

against

against

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Edible Granite Pencil [yumy]

R/

It's not just that Ectos are increasingly common. Ectos still trade at the same quantity for items. Like a rare weapon skin stays at the 100K+XX Ecto value no matter the price of the Ecto. I think gold is more valuable than it was a few months ago and that's an increasing factor in the price drop of Ecto.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

I hope ecto stays this low, or goes lower, It's actually nice for a change to get FoW for cheap after grinding so much for it in the past.

Sentience

Sentience

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

I hate ppl who put stupid locations here

Jelly Toasts [jT], Team Love [kisu]

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[s]Use Festival Tickets to store extra gold, 15gp always![/sarcasm]

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Meh, i should've sold my ectos months ago... its too late now so i might aswell just wait and see. Maybe the price will randomly go up...

Jason Xll

Jason Xll

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ice Tooth Cave

W/Mo

It always was and always should be ecto imo... However if they do continue dropping after the release of GW:EN (which i doubt) diamonds would be the best alternative...

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ectos have exactly 1 use, FoW armor, and most of the people who want it either already have it or decided some of the newer vanity armors like vabbian look better anyway. As a result, demand is constantly falling, so price is falling.

Solution: Prop up demand with a new use for ectos. I, for one, would love to see a crafter who would make inscribable storm bows, chaos axes, eternal shields, etc out of ectos. Could probably boost the demand for some of the "loser" rare materials like spirit wood by including them in the recipe.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Anti-farm code was taken off Ectos and it looks like it ain't ever coming back.

For that reason I predict eventually Ectos will be at Amber and Jade prices.

Frostlight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Forget the auction house, Anet should implement a broker so I can short sell ectos.

Unlucky Slayer

Unlucky Slayer

RAGE INCARNATE

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sitting at The Guild Hall 2, being happy.

Nerd Clan [NK]

R/

Go go 500g ectos!

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Porkchop Sandwhiches

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fishing Village in Wizard's Folly

R/

It's more than just ectos. Prices for everything are down. I believe it all started with the farming changes they made to white items and cash drops. Now everyone has to farm rare items because they don't fall under the same farm code. So, there are more of them being farmed than there used to be.

I saw that first hand with titan gems, they were at 65k+ before the changes, then they dropped and kept droppping fast as more people started to farm them, now they are 25k or lower. It's funny watching how many monks and rangers are running out the door in DOA when it's busy now.

Hopefully GWEN will have something decent to sell. It sucks being poor.

Willow O Whisper

Willow O Whisper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Denmark

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Me/A

i guess it can go down to 100g if it keeps dropping this way, but lets see.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

because there will be 4 pairs of new armor i thought that one would be like vabbian and have an obscure cost consisting of diamonds, ectos, and shards but that is all in my head

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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I'm going to post the exact same thing I sent to the moderators asking for this thread to be closed (just in case they disagree with me and don't close this thread) so I can get my point in.

"Although not exactly a bad post, I just think its kinda repeatitive and unnecessary. We had people make threads when the ecto price droped to 7k, 6.5k, 6k, AND 5.5k. This forum seriously doesn't need anymore ZOMG ecto price has fallen again threads (all the advice and suggestions made in the previous threads are all still viable). I remember that when factions came out there was a strict policy to delete all threads about where the luxon/kurzick line was (ie, threads about the Luxons taking Vasberg were deleted) or about specific alliances taking over towns. I believe the same policy should be applied here (price flucuation, just like the shifting of the boarder is a game mechanic that should not cause shock and awe to people whenever it happens)."

Novalon

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches
It's more than just ectos. Prices for everything are down. I believe it all started with the farming changes they made to white items and cash drops. Now everyone has to farm rare items because they don't fall under the same farm code. So, there are more of them being farmed than there used to be.

I saw that first hand with titan gems, they were at 65k+ before the changes, then they dropped and kept droppping fast as more people started to farm them, now they are 25k or lower. It's funny watching how many monks and rangers are running out the door in DOA when it's busy now.

Hopefully GWEN will have something decent to sell. It sucks being poor.
The thing is, with the price of rare items going down, this means the price of your gold is going up. I know that I've been out of the loop for a while, but the way I look at it, is that, sure, you may have less to sell, but it's offset by the fact that rare items are cheaper.

Besides Griffon farming back in the day, I think the most I ever made gold on is farming materials and selling them back to the traders. Not the best kind of income, but if you really think about it, as long as your turn a profit, you will come out ahead in the long run.

I can't wait to get back into GW again when I move, so I can see the effect that HM and loot exemption and all that has had on the game that I was so used to playing.

Sentience

Sentience

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

I hate ppl who put stupid locations here

Jelly Toasts [jT], Team Love [kisu]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches
Hopefully GWEN will have something decent to sell. It sucks being poor.
The scramble for all the new weapons and greens will sell nicely for a while at least, just like with every other campaign.

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

the people who are affected by this are the uber rich that horde stacks and stacks of them. what percentage of the gw population do u think even has 1 stack let alone multiple stacks of ecto? maybe 2-5 percent? do you think anet or anyone for that matter cares if their wealth decreases a bit? probably not.

the smart ones with loads of ectos have probably already liquidated most of their stock in exchange for diamonds anyways.


why dont we start pointless threads about other rare mats that fluctuate in price too. ok ok, ill start

STEEL - how high can they go

damn. steel used to be like under 200g/each now theyre hovering around 300g/each. thats like a 50% increase in price. like wtf! i feel like my guildwars universe is crashing down on me.

CDittric77

CDittric77

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

A Famous Small Town in PA

Saints of Avalon

R/Mo

What's overlooked here by several people is that for some the economic fluctuations in game are actually influence how much they enjoy the game. In my guild alone there are several who enjoy the mercantile aspect of GW, such as it is, and are directly influenced by changes in price. Economics in game is just as worthy a topic in Riverside as is any other topic. If we're going to start closing or criticizing threads like this b/c they could appear constantly, let's start doing the same for the eight thousand ZOMG ANet NERFED {insert here}!~!!#@# WETFSFTSF!Q@#$ threads.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlucky Slayer
Go go 500g ectos!
Lol, wonder how long till FoW armour is actually cheaper than Vabbian.

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

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imo the price of ectos going down is caused by the loot thing, and nowadays everything is hard hard to sell( plus the trade channal thing). the market is in a chaos atm, and ppl with or without ectos are confused and scared of selling or buying stuff, so ecto droppin in price is a normal phenomena.

ca_aok

ca_aok

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Xen of Onslaught

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
imo the price of ectos going down is caused by the loot thing, and nowadays everything is hard hard to sell( plus the trade channal thing). the market is in a chaos atm, and ppl with or without ectos are confused and scared of selling or buying stuff, so ecto droppin in price is a normal phenomena.
Ecto prices are down for a few reasons. Once the price began dropping from the 10K threshold they reached a few months after NF's release, people panicked and started selling their ecto in bulk, lowering the price further. Then lootscaling came along. Basically the update made it impossible to make money farming mobs anymore. So instead, people turned to the easiest farm that was exempt from loot scale... ectos. As well, with the addition of UW scrolls, more people are farming ectos than ever before since they no longer need to wait for favor. Finally, since it's been months since the last game release and there are no new classes planned for GWEN, the general idea is that everyone who wants FoW should have it by now. This means there's no demand for ectos, whereas the market is being flooded by the farmers just trying to make a few K to get by. The price plummets, and will keep plummeting.

Basically until ANET removes lootscale and figures out some way to deal with bots that isn't half-baked, ectos will continue to fall in price, along with greens and other lootscale-exempt items.

October Jade

October Jade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

drifting between Indiana and NorCal

Quote:
Originally Posted by CDittric77
What's overlooked here by several people is that for some the economic fluctuations in game are actually influence how much they enjoy the game. In my guild alone there are several who enjoy the mercantile aspect of GW, such as it is, and are directly influenced by changes in price. Economics in game is just as worthy a topic in Riverside as is any other topic. If we're going to start closing or criticizing threads like this b/c they could appear constantly, let's start doing the same for the eight thousand ZOMG ANet NERFED {insert here}!~!!#@# WETFSFTSF!Q@#$ threads.
The way I see it, threads dealing with the ingame economy can be classified as one of three types:
1) Recent change benefits the poster; thread becomes a platform for gloating/displaying the e-peen.
2) Recent change hurts the poster; thread becomes a whining rant.
3) Thread speculates upon future change.

The only one of the three that might be worthy of further discussion is the last option, but even that is no guarantee. Think of all the threads about GW2 that have been closed over the past few months.

CDittric77

CDittric77

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

A Famous Small Town in PA

Saints of Avalon

R/Mo

^Agreed. I would only want a thread discussion number three. One that is purely based on strategy, speculation, and utility.

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by CDittric77
^Agreed. I would only want a thread discussion number three. One that is purely based on strategy, speculation, and utility.
well said there

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

I think I actually wasted more k on Amber at Factions release then I have on ectos.

*sigh*...

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Xll
It always was and always should be ecto imo... However if they do continue dropping after the release of GW:EN (which i doubt) diamonds would be the best alternative...
Lockpicks are better, they have a guaranteed bottom and max price, this is a stable good, ecto's basically suck in that respect.

Hole Sale Traps

Hole Sale Traps

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

TCI The Crimson Invasion

R/Mo

Soon we will see 100k +XXXlockpicks, im sure alot of people are hopeing for that.

klrk

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Space Rangers

W/

thats what anet trying to do ,chase us player away before they release gw2

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

If they only chase away people who refuse to accept they won't make as much in gold as they used to, but will have to accept that there's less gold coming in, I think it's a good idea.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

I'd be happy if it kept dropping. I never trade in things that require ecto payments and only one FoW armor half-interests me.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

hell im kicking myself for when i bought 15k luxon warrior armor when jadeite was 4k each, what a dissapointment it is for me O well you live and learn and I actually just started saving up for fow armor the other day, still aint cheap but its a hell of alot better when they were 10k+

Zaganher Deathbane

Zaganher Deathbane

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Las Vegas

N/

Nice! I just hope it will stay that way or better yet lower. Now everyone can afford the uber expensive FOW armor they like

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Lockpicks ftw!

At least they're stable

Chris Blackstar

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

United States

I believe Anet is trying to make items cheaper for the average player while at the same time reducing gold avalablity. The biggest problem here is the exploitation of bots to gather gold and then sell it on the open market for RL money, thus making players rich with out having to grind for it. With so much gold flooding the market, it drives up the prices for everything, because many players are greedy and want a piece of the pie. Well when something like that is done, sooner or later you will have a market crash, because supply will be up, but demand will fall, basic economics.

For me, I would like to except that crash, because I am tired of the price galging BS, no gold item with a non rare skin should sell for 100K+XXectos, inscribable or not. It's the greed of the rich and the criminals who are destroying this game's economy, and the percentage of those players is not 2or3%, more like +33% of the world wide player base, if not more. Otherwise the economy would have not been effected if only 3% of the player base were umber rich.