loved wintersday but...

was it really neccessary to make 17+ seperate items for the holiday? add that to my halloween items i collected and my storage vault is overfull. i already had one storage character and just had to retire a second character for storage. either that or my warrior has to carry his 4 weapon and armor sets himself. which would mean no more farming when i dont feel like pvping with it.

serious storage problems when you create collectible items in HUGE numbers like that.

Multiple accounts are love.

Three for me [mainly crafting supplies, way too many tanned hide squares]

something about this one didnt seem as fun as Halloween. Maybe because it seemed like the whole thing was very rushed, or that it didnt last as long.

And it could have been alot less Christmasy if it wasnt supposed to be Christmas. As cool as it was, Anet could have come up with alot more creative things for the Wintersday season.

Agree halloween was much better done.. The work and greed involved in even getting a few presents during the event was a joke. The presents should of rained down since they were weak little items like S sumoners and eggnog.

Candy Canes are the only thing that are gonna be useful after this is over.

i think the problem with this event is that there wasnt an area for ppl to come together and party. During the Halloween event, most ppl tended to stand and dance on the "round green area" in LA and no one was around the Cauldron. During the Wintersday event, there was no such area to party on, well...as for the christmas tree in LA, from what i observed, it's just like the cauldron in Halloween, no one parties there. I definitely think if they establish a similar area like the "round green area" from Halloween...it might've brought more ppl together to party.

edited...becuz many ppl misunderstood me. I was not referring to the day of the final event (I know the number of ppl in LA is comparable to that of the Mad King event). I mean before and after the main event, go to LA and i bet u dont see that many ppl standing around, but back in the Halloween event, there are always ppl on that green area in LA partying.

the eggnogs, my man, the eggnogs!!

Sure, candy canes have a logical use, but there's nothing like stocking up on ales to mix with soon-to-be-added ales to get super-trippy effects.


I still have quite a few absinthes and witche's brews


And on the event being done sloppily.... You guys are crazy! Did you read the Wintersday Crier's messages even ONCE? It acurately counted down to the 31st, saying the voting was going to be taking place in LA.

The only downside was that there were 2 items and not enough events to cover all of your characters if you had a lot + got on late, that is to say, if you weren't in the know!

The way to get 1 of each of the items for 1 character at 1 showing of the avatars was to JUMP DISTRICTS very fast [as soon as the item appreared in your inventory].

although the FINALE was not as good as the halloween event, the overall amount of stuff to do more than makes up for it ie:

Decorative Theming
Quests
Item Collectors
Candycane weapons
Snowball Arena
Snowmen Henchies
Yule Hats / Reindeer Antlers

So for me Wintersday > Halloween.

And i believe Gaile mentioned something about a "Holiday Storage" for our storage worries.

LAW OF GW: People always whine....

the problem was there was a place for people to party and it was called out in the real world. 10 hours of new years eve partying or sitting in front of the pc?? no contest, oh and i even got my hat and antlers by leaving my pc on while out so its not a 'didnt get hat so have a go' post. probably delete them too as i dont like them as much as the pumpkin mask

Off topic:

Newbie here... I'm kinda curiuos on how long wintersday is going to last. I just discovered the eggnog has effects to it, and now i want to stock up on it. I'm just wondering how much time I have left to hoard the nescisary items to get the eggnog hehe.

Thanks in advance :-)

it may be gone already or be around til next fridat.

halloween stayed around several days.

going to check now for maybe a few more goodies

no idea vriel >.<

however, if you play the snowball match *assuming its still going on*
you get a grenthy present when you loose and a dwaynan present if you win
i have had candycane shards and charcoal even from grenth presents

True.dat

Hey! Let's give them some items!
-Too many items, we can't store them all!

Hey! Let's arrange a Grenth vs. Dwayna showdown!
-It should have lasted longer!

Hey! Let's drop around some presents that you can run to childen for fun!
-There should've been more presents!

Hey! Let's give them some new quests with good XP rewards!
-The quests were boring when I did them the 4th time!

Hey! Let's give them IDS!
-It's too far away, I can't get it! Wait, now I got it! You should have stopped the drops after Wintersday so that I could have sold it for 60k!

Hey! Screw this pointless crap and let's get back to making chapter 2 so we can at least cash in on their whining
-Why won't ANet ever do anything nice? I've played this game for 500 hours and it's boring already!

This is sarcasm, right? The Halloween goodies you got from trading with collectors or from participating in the final event. The Wintersday goodies you got from trading with collectors, from showing up for the final event, from playing "run the present" in any of three cities, or from playing in the snowball arena. Oh, those awful Anet people giving me extra goodies (for free!) just for playing the game. Oh, the agony and hard work of exploring the new content and having fun with it instead of being a glorified bot and farming Griffons or something.

Apparantly, you've answered your own question! That is, you thought these items are SO NEATO that you've pushed everything out of your storage to keep them. YOU thought it was necessary, otherwise you would have done what all the rest of us did and ditched absolutely everything except the barest exceptions.
The fact is that your overfull storage is a problem entirely of your own making. To retire a toon just to make more room is.. well.. bizzarre! And then to blame Anet for coming up with items you.. just... <ungh> ..can't seem... to.. .. let go of <trying to get rid of one item> reveals more about your own 'pack-rat'edness' and less about Anets ability to come up with items that are completely irresistable.
So here's a tip;
1. Go through all your toons and sell every primary weapon for each toon except two (ok, four is acceptable too).
2. Sell every off hand you have except two per (using) characters.
3. Go through the rest of your inventory and ask yourself; "Self? Do I need <such and such> item or do I just WANT <such and such> item?"
Need vs Want: If you have a killer bow (not as good as 2 other bows) that you never use then you don't NEED it.
Need vs Want: If you have event items (candy cane swords, pumpkin heads) that don't do ANYTHING for your game play or make your characters more effective.. get rid of it! (Unless of coarse you want to be the idiot that pops out with a pumpkin mask in May)
If you "want" something that you don't "Need", then only allow yourself 4 of these things per character.

Me? I don't have an inventory problem. But then again, I don't have a bag full of swords I'm never gonna use either;-)

Well to counter the complaint I have to say; good job ANet. The amount of work that went into the winterday thing overshadowed all they did on halloween by far and that was a great event.

I can't wait to see what else these people do for us.

I disagree with you infernal, people will keep items even if they don't use them because it may be worth something, or was hard to find. Something for a friend, or they are selling it. If someone told me to get rid of my stuff to fit in some hat, personally I would ditch the hat. I have a storage issue as well, most of my storage is Candy Canes, Candy Cane Shards, S Summoners, Eggnog, Spiked Eggnog, Candy Cane Weps, Antlers, Santa Hat.

However even though there is a problem with a very very bad storage system. (I mean runescape has more space then us! Then again, diffrent progammers diffrent people.) Just make some junk Char. to hold stuff for you and buy bags for them if needed. I personally keep my items on my other Char. if I find my storage is tight.

I think they should have a system that you can buy your storage spaces by the row, say 500gp each or something. Either that or just give us 150+ space... Long term players arn't going to ditch their rares to keep event items and most likley the events won't be a popular to long term players as they are to the new person.

I found the event boring, all you did was rush to a district to get either the Hat or Antlers, spend about 15 mins. waiting for the item while reading people swear and be a bunch of perverts. Goodness, if I showed some screen shots of some odd pm's I got they would speak for themselves. I enjoyed the time when the items came, but after that it was so dull... Just people either running around like crazy people showing off their hats (Like me!) or people swearing because they missed the last event time.

Pretty dreadful if you ask me, ANET needs people to be in the districts at the same time as these events to take out the garbage, for garbage I mean for those 20+ people swearing and typing things that make themselves look retarded.

I loved the hats.

/signed for truth

Ppl don't seem to relaize what a great game this is for the measly 30-50 bucks you paid. Hats off to anet, great job on the event.

Did you forget the quests? The snowball arena? The present running? The collector items? If you didn't do them, it's your own fault.

And would you rather Anet didn't do anything at all? After all, all you get is people swearing, right? Face it. People swear. If a few noobs complaining spoiled the event for you, then frankly, you need to grow up a bit.

Anet tried to do something for us, and I appreciate the effort they put into it at no cost to us. It was their holiday gift to us players, and I personally don't complain to the gift giver about how much the gift sucked, even IF it did. Personally, I found the event to be quite a pleasant diversion from my usual play, and I look forward to any new events they have planned for us. Thank you, Arenanet.

Anyhow, back on topic...

Well, if it's worth something, then why don't they sell it? If it's for a friend, why don't they give it to a friend? Point is, keeping something because it's worth something is self-defeating. Sell the stuff that you're keeping because you're planning on selling them, and sell the stuff that you don't need.

If most of your storage is used up by Candy Canes, Candy Cane Shards, Snowman Summoners, Eggnog, etc... then it's your problem. Most of those items are useless, and no matter how hard to find they may be, they're still useless. Candy Cane Shards will serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever when the Candysmiths are gone. Stuff like Candy Canes, Eggnog, and such are consumable, so either they'll sit there doing nothing, or pretty soon they'll be gone too. The only useful item out of all of those are Candy Canes. I have no idea why you would have more than one candy cane weapon per character (okay, two if you absolutely love staves, or three if you're a warrior, and absolutely insist on having a candy cane axe, sword, AND hammer).

Point is, the stuff we got for the event is there for the novelty ONLY. You're under no obligation to keep them. You have to make choices in the game, just like you have to make choices in real life. What you decide to keep with you is one such choice.

Who said I didn't do the the snowball fights? I did all of the stuff Wintersday and some what liked it. Every person has likes and dislikes about the events, therefore what I typed out before is not some writen word of the only truth or something...

Yes it is my problem I have a lot of stuff in my storage box, and? I'm I the only one complaining about lack of storage? Use your search button and take a lot for yourself, it's no diffrent then complaining about assassin ideas for the class, or complaining about getting elves.

"Well, if it's worth something, then why don't they sell it? If it's for a friend, why don't they give it to a friend? Point is, keeping something because it's worth something is self-defeating. Sell the stuff that you're keeping because you're planning on selling them, and sell the stuff that you don't need."

Well I'm sorry if your on for 12 hours + a day and your with all your friends at the same time all day online, I however am not, so I might have an item untell I get around to giving it to him. People have lives... and for me and my friends it isn't this game.

"And would you rather Anet didn't do anything at all? After all, all you get is people swearing, right? Face it. People swear. If a few noobs complaining spoiled the event for you, then frankly, you need to grow up a bit."

It didn't spoil the event for me, I think you need to go and re-read what I said, I was stating that people are cursing and swearing and doing their "Porn Talk" and what not, if you had little kids playing and they where seeing this and you would aprove of them reading it, then by all means all the power to ya.

If ANET did nothing thats their option to do so, however they are supplying an online game people paid for and they have also stated they get their good ideas from those that complain about things that need to be changed. If no one said a word things would stay the same and people would find some where else to go, however have you forgot, Guild Wars is still in BETA. In other words the people that complain to add new things are the people that are giving the ideas to improve the game for everyone else.

"Point is, the stuff we got for the event is there for the novelty ONLY. You're under no obligation to keep them. You have to make choices in the game, just like you have to make choices in real life. What you decide to keep with you is one such choice."

It's a game, if I got rid of all my items and started fresh it wouldn't matter. Believe me a Hat isn't worth nothing when it's a virtual item... Too some people it may mean something to them.

EDIT: To make a better example, I did get rid of all my stuff on my w/m, and started fresh just to get some cash for my archer. Now I'm playing a w/m with no armor but still having fun, so the items really don't mean much, since it can all be replaced.

I'll admit, a bigger storage would be nice.

Wow, with the amount of crap we got for Christmas now sinking in, I think it's incredible how much anet has outdone itself on just the second time around. I for one can't wait to see what the next event will bring.

However, I have to agree that something needs to be done about storage space. Another character slot or expanded storage wouldn't hurt.

Lucky you; I missed the whole thing :|

I figured they'd give people who were partying elsewhere for New Year's a chance to get the little hats, but I guess not

well i figure that since ive been playing this game for so long. and will probably be playing it a few years from now. (i hope) i might as well be able to keep the fun things i want to keep. im a bit of a collector. i likes to collect nifty things. one of these things is the holiday items. i have them all.

and ya know what candy cane weapons are and will be very very very useful.
id say a cc sword or axe will mix nicely with a iw me/necro dont you?

and to say that i should trim down all my characters to just 4 weapons? your insane. on my warrior i pvp, stance farm, and occassionally solo farm. not to mention just general game play. that requires me to either constantly switch out the runes on one set of equipment or have 4 sets. then theres the fact sometimes i play hammer KD or use swords or axes. storage is a serious issue for some long term players who like to play the game their own way and collect the fun items introduced into the game.

3 years from now when i whip out my 2005 pumpkin hat on halloween and im one of the few with them. whose going to be laughing at the "noob" who had storage problems?

and i would gladly spend another 20 bucks on more storage space or another character slot or two. but ive already played enough characters all the way through the game. i dont need a second account.

under no circumstances am I calling you a noob. I would just like to point out that a word "collector" that you used is a 'bit' of an underestimation here. the whole idea behind "collecting" rare event-only stuff is so you can sell it for more that it cost you in future. it's that simple. greed is an ultimate engine that powers most online role playing games.

having played GW since WPE, I can say that the current storage size if more than enough for as many as 90% of players. perhaps the only possible improvement would be increasing the amount of money that can be kept in storage, but then again, it would only benefit those who sell in-game gold for real money. so I say, keep things thee way they are now.

unless of course ANet plan to add more character slots to the accounts...

I love the game. If people want to pay real money for storage in GW, then I think Anet should let them. Then Anet can invest that money in making an even better GW for those who don't care about more storage.

Granted 5000 is a bit much, but getting garg skulls for future sales, is called investing, not scamming. Personally I won't sell any of my 300 untill the price hits 1k each.

ignis, BTW who appointed you GW god, people can play any way they want. If you have a style of play great, play that way, but let us play the we want to.

With FoW going for more almost 2 million plat, if you have to buy ectos,
generik, I say congrats got a couple of sets.

The whole holiday event (including the days before the actual Wintersday) was a nice change of scenery and just plain fun.

More storage would be great... Call it a complaint if you want, but I don't think anyone would say NO to more storage space.

While the winter holiday event was great, it wasnt as good as the Halloween Event. The Mad King event was done a lot better because it was interactive and almost everyone got stuff. This Wintersday event was just standing around while everyone tried to make a mad dash to grab stuff. Sorry but it was boring. But putting any event in is a good thing.

Don't keep them, they're useless. I already deleted all my hats/antlers.

kindly point out where in my posts am I giving anyone directions as to how to play and what to do? I couldn't care less about people's play style, it just ticks me off when folks whine about things like storage not being large enough (which would, in fact, mean ANet's open support for farming and, in case of those special-event-only items, scamming)

nobody here likes being ripped off, and yet it seems that discussing scamming is more or less encouraged here. I've seen threads discussing possible Halloween and holiday item prices in future.

as for FoW armor, not only can you go with other types of armor (I have never heard of FoW armor being a compulsory must-have), but if your ass itches badly to get it, there are many other more legitimate ways of earning money.

I hope Gaile's mention of a Holiday Storage was something real. All I can think of lately is a large storage box for each of my characters that has unlimited space, but only for the special holiday items that came from the events.

*Sigh* It seems some people have no gotten our points yet. We would like a Storage for Event Items because it takes up the space we have already. Now for the storage itself, I wouldn't store a billion things in it, however when I find good items I like to keep them with me for a while to see if my Guild wants the items before I pass them off, or my friends, even if I'm going to auction it.

I'm keeping Candy Cane Shards, so? I'm trying to get the hole Candy Cane Weapon Set for my buddy. Just because we store a lot of things doesn't make us idoits. Some people will play the game just with what they got, other's wil pack rat it in, however I'm no pack rat. When me and my buddys go out and farm for a bit, they rarley see my pick up anything unless it's a purple, gold, ect... then I sell them unless I don't need it or the Guild wants it. However, what takes most of my storage are my weapon sets, armor sets, runed armor sets. So I wouldn't just delete or sell these to save space.

What I'm doing for now is I got a Char. with the two bags and rune of holding to act as a bit of a bank for now. Some of us also have like 3-4 Char. we play, and since they share storage you do the math and see how long it takes to be full with weapon sets and what not.

yeah, and each char adds their own backpack, bags, and pouch, and feeds off the same piles of material, ectos, etc.
just because you have 4 chars doesn't mean you have to have 4 seperate ecto piles.

hey, I've had storage issues in every crpg I've ever played, but I'm not going to beat up anet for putting in santa hats because of it.

... Please show me where I posted and was stating ANET should be beaten up for putting in Santa Hats? First of all this seems to be more of a flaming tread, well it may turn into one very soon. If ANET made more storage please tell everyone that wants more storage how it would be in a bad effect for people who don't want it? I see 100% Postive from uping storage, nothing bad about it so why get all angry at people who want more storage?

First of all I was happy with the Hats, however to me their nothing speical and I would get rid of them if needed, however I would perfer to keep my Event Items.

This is all a personal prefence, some people want to collect more and some people don't, so if we would like more storage whats the harm is stating that there isnt enough, but like I stated before, please give me some reasons on how it would be bad for you if we had more storage?

I really believe a lot of the people who are disagreeing are because they get some magical idea that we are bashing ANET, if this was true we wouldn't play the game would we? I have no problem with ANET, I have a problem with Storage.

My storage is actually kind of full with candy cane, eggnogs, spiked eggnog, and snowman summon. But pretty soon, i'll sell these items or end up using them. Bottom line, the event is great and for those people that have bunch of items, you can either keep them or just sell it to other people. Like other posters here said, its your choice to either keep those x-mas items or just toss them out.

as I have mentioned before, increasing storage would encourage more farming and the game will eventually turn into a distorted model of the real world. farmers will dominate and there will pretty much be no room left for your everage Joe that wants to play the game. look far and play deep and you'll understand why ANet has made storage as large as it is now and why they are not increasing it. and hopefully, they won't.