Tome of Dye idea

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/notsigned, makes no sense.

freekedoutfish

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
Where freedom of choice is concern I will use DUH whereever I like and want

DUH DUH!
Again... what?

How can you defend a thread, when you throw completely meaningless words around?

The major issue with your idea is that it would completely remove the need for dye if we had a tome that contained every colour. But dye tomes would cost alot to buy, because you would base the price on the highest colour cost.

A tome of dye would have to only contain the most expensive colours to make it efficient (when trading them).

It would be an item which was limited to richer players, so what if you only wanted the red colour? A colour which is cheap from the dye trader. The poorer places couldnt get access to them!

So all that ends up doing is putting black and white into one object, and removing the need to stack blacks and whites. I still dont need why we need that?

Not to mention that a person who stacks 10x blacks or whites, is most likely trading them and I dont really want the dye system changed to benefit them, if their just doing it to trade.

You also talk about adding sparkley, metalic and another dye colour.

What if those colours ended up cheap as individual dye colours? As explained above, it wouldnt be efficient to include in an expensive Tome of dye.

I think it would be great to have some more customising in armor, but your idea is either too complicated or not required. We just need Anet to allow us to dye armor differently using the existing preview system.

Phoenix Tears

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best is to give this stupid colors just simple a place in the chest, like anet did for stupid materials and rare materials > finish ..

do this than with runes, upgrades, Armors (in combination with runes), keys, food ect. too, and we would simple get the PERFECT chest ...

but nooooo, dumb chest stays it seems ever so stupid, as it is, with only a special part for materials -.-

tork

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how about a tab in your storage that lets you stack dyes like materials...makes more sense in terms of saving inventory space than destroying the dye market

freekedoutfish

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Originally Posted by tork
how about a tab in your storage that lets you stack dyes like materials...makes more sense in terms of saving inventory space than destroying the dye market
The issue with that, is that once we got a "dye tab", people would want an "armor tab" and then a "weapon tab". Its understandable to have a materials one, because there are countless materials to store.

But we only have about 10 dye colours, so its pointless to dedicate an entire tab to that.

pumpkin pie

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thinking maybe this would explain the tome of dye better.

iriyabran

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i would rather have a dye book which has slots in it and you can store every color in and stack the vias
like with the chick incubator where u could put all the stuff in and still occupy only 1 storage slot
would be nice solution as dye storage

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Originally Posted by iriyabran
i would rather have a dye book which has slots in it and you can store every color in and stack the vias
like with the chick incubator where u could put all the stuff in and still occupy only 1 storage slot
would be nice solution as dye storage
Wtf do you need dye storage for?! Buy the dye, apply it, done.

The whole idea of a dye tome is stupid anyway.

/close please.

The Way Out

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I think a tome of dye is ridiculous... where would the ink come from? I think a Dye Tab is also ridiculous... although I do wish we could increase our storage accounts somehow... like rent a bank for a montly gold fee. I would do it, just to accumulate kappa shells and glittering dust

Reflect

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no point of dye storage, anyways only white and black dye are worthy to be kept ...
/notsigned for the tome aswell, i do`nt see why we need it...

iriyabran

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Wtf do you need dye storage for?! Buy the dye, apply it, done.

The whole idea of a dye tome is stupid anyway.

/close please.
i don't need dye storage but a lot of people have posted they want one
geeeze can't even post 1 idea without getting jumped on

Made In Ascalon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem
I think its a good idea, but dye storage seems easier
why not have a Tome of Dye 50 gold lets you preview every dye color on your armor. So instead of buying multiple colors just to see what they look like you can buy a tome for 50 gold :P
Only good idea in this thread.

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Why not just google what dye looks like. I've seen every variation of every armor and every dye before I ever applied it. I went through this with my Norn armor before I just settled on white. If you were going to go with a dye tome, you may as well make a weapon tome, armor tome, focus tome, shield tome, etc... /closed was right... Also, there are third party apps that allow you to mod your character and do exactly what everyone here is talking about, without affecting the way you appear ig to other ppl. GOOGLE FTW!
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Originally Posted by Made In Ascalon
Only good idea in this thread.

MithranArkanere

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The Dye traders depend on people having to sell the remaining dyes thay can't store to have stock.

That's why dye, scroll, rune or upgrade storage should never be added, and upgrade trainers should be added.

For being able to see the Dyes before purchasing them, the Preview window should be added to the inventory and every crafter, so you can see all possible combinatios without having to have the dye itseld, but if you try to apply in your inventory, it would say (You do not have all the required dyes for this combination in your inventory)

pumpkin pie

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tome of dye is not a storage, sorry if you think tome of dye is an idea to reduce the storage to dyes.

the reduction to the number of dyes you need to keep is a plus to the tome. the main idea to the tome is so that you can have any kind of color with ease, using sliders. and if properly done, and anet allows it, it can replace the skin to your armor. like the sims 2 bodyshop can, it will be a huge thing if you have an in game official "skin/texture" modder available, I am sure a lot of players would love to mod their own texture and create some to share with friends and even strangers online.

MithranArkanere

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So it's like having 4 dyes in one?

...?

And what would be the other dyes used for?

Solas

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so the tome of dye slider allwos you to pick any color? or only vials of dye you have on char? but that would defeat the purpose if it was.

if it allowed you to pick any ye you wanted they wouldhave to be rare (Gold) drops, they they would go at least the price of black dye, since theres a slider that could mean that other dyes would have been implemented to get that colour which could mean the dye books go huge in price.

its ok to tome skills as they have no effect on the econemy, but dyes do, not massive but still.

Barrett

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after looking at that little picture you made for an example of dye tome

i like the idea but maybe not whole Dye In A book thing :/

i still love the old dye system no stupid preview

pamelf

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Oh god, why was this thread resurrected. *facepalm*

That said, there's a post up above that I hadn't read back in 2007...I like the idea of dye preview being in an armour crafter's window so you can preview all colours without having to have them in your inventory, thus knowing what you need to get to have it looking the way you want.

Mystica

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Thread Necromany ftw!

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Originally Posted by Meat Axe
I have one problem with this idea. Just one.... How do you dye armour with a book?
By rubbing.

Darkobra

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Originally Posted by Mystica
Thread Necromany ftw!
With the amount of threads locked daily with mods telling people to use search, what did you think would happen?

Supervillain

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Sooo many suggestions and 99% are utter crap... think before you suggest lol

/notsigned

You cannot LEARN your armor to be a different colour (without using dyes, or some úber sexy magic) and you cannot LEARN to make materials appear out of thin air (without breaking some sort of balance lol)...

The Skill Tomes make sense because people READ them and learn a new thing

pamelf

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That's why I think actually dying armour with a book is simply TOTALLY RIDICULOUS, but there is a suggestion here that does make sense...in a book you could easily have previews of every combination of dye possible. So while you can't actuallyd dye anything using this 'tome of dye' you could use any dye combination to preview it on your armour, thus knowing exactly what your armour would look like with any colour combination you so choose, thus knowing exactly what colours you need to buy instead of wasting money on just trying a whole lot of stuff out.

THAT is something I wouldn't mind dropping.

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Originally Posted by Darkobra
With the amount of threads locked daily with mods telling people to use search, what did you think would happen?
Generally the idea of telling people to use search is so they dont ask questions that have already been answered or post repeat threads within a short space of time.
People are told to use search so they can find the answers they need and so do not need to post.
The Idea is NOT to bring back old threads and post your useless comments in them.

pumpkin pie

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I actually did not want to post anymore in this thread, I just promote it shamelessly whenever someone comes up with ideas that are the same.

But, I just want to point out that this actually isn't a useless idea, plenty of people like it since another person posted one same idea and have plenty of people signing it and saying its a good idea. In 2007 you get bash for coming up with this idea, in 2008 you still get bash for this idea being ressurected, while someone else's coming up with same idea has totally different response. very interesting!

Just so you know how unpopular my wanting armor to be sparkley was, even before arena net comes up with chaos glove, well plenty of players crave to get chaos glove now. if sparkley armor isn't good, why so many players wants chaos glove?

Things that one can't understand does not means it's not good. The idea is free and its here for arena net to use if they see fit.

Yes, question: how do you dye an armor with a book? ey. how do you dye armor by double clicking on an icon that resembles, erm, a triangular bottle? answer that and you have your answers.

Chronos the Defiler

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bring back the old dye system, don't change the current...I liked the old colors better...

pamelf

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Pumpkin, that idea is not your idea at all. They have some very vague similarities, but your idea was nothing as polished or as good as that one, and didn't have the main ingredient which makes peole actually like that idea. The slider in that person's post isn't used to dye, it simply allows you to pick the colour you want and tells you what colour dyes you would need to buy in order to achieve that colour...

like I said, only vague similarities to what you have suggested in this thread... Your specific idea is still as bad in 2008 as it was in 2007 i'm afraid, but since then perhaps people have looked at your idea, improved on it and posted it in their own threads, so I guess kudo's for that at least.

pumpkin pie

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how is a tome that you double click and get the color you want a bad idea?

Its a one off use thing, you don't get to keep it, it just has everything in there, click the tome, its opens, you select the part of the armor you want to dye, select the color you want, click apply. And the tome disappear from your bag and your item is dye at the selected part with the selected color.

its that simple.

Konig Des Todes

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Here is my suggestion regarding dyes. I'll even add the ideas from the OP to make sense due to the "how do you dye armor from a book" question.

1) Move Grey Dye to Dye Trader
2) Re-add Dye Removal under the Dye Trader
3) Add "Dye Glitter" to Dye Trader *Can also be made from Materials NPCs by crafting out of Vial of Ink and Glittering Dust|cannot be added alone*
4) Add "Dye Shiner" to Dye Trader *Add the metallic look to what you dye, cannot be added alone*
5) Lastly, and most importantly, change the default color of armor back to how it was before it was grey.

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
how is a tome that you double click and get the color you want a bad idea?

Its a one off use thing, you don't get to keep it, it just has everything in there, click the tome, its opens, you select the part of the armor you want to dye, select the color you want, click apply. And the tome disappear from your bag and your item is dye at the selected part with the selected color.

its that simple.
Your looking at it from a "coding" perspective, at least of what I get. Other people are looking at it at a "how would this work in real life" perspective. When you ask how does double clicking a vial of dye dye an armor, double-clicking represents taking off the cap and pouring it on the armor. Can't "pour dye" on an armor from a book. Hope that helps clear things up.

Thizzle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
I've been thinking of this for sometime, well, ever since the skill tome come into action.

How about a Tome of Dye or Book of Dye Recipes, instead of buying bottle of dyes and getting drops of dye that occupy 10 slots if you reserve one for each color.

When you click on Tome of Dye you'll get a slider, much like how you color the cape and it can color not just the color-able parts of the armor, it has options to color the un-color-able parts as well.

and we need
1) Tome of Dye (normal)
2) Tome of Dye (Metallic)
3) Tome of Dye (Sparkle) make armor sparkle!

and there you have it i just reduce storage usage by 7 slots
/notsigned.

Metallic and sparkle just so like the chaos gloves look. I already suggested they add full chaos armor. The idea of a book dying armor doesn't make since either.

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This idea is still bad.

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Not to be mean, but I think this is one of the dumbest ideas ever.

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/signed i like it