Simple question really: If it was legal to buy or sell your ingame gold would you do so?
Lets say the average farmer could make about 1/4th of the cash he would make in a real job (ie. if you earn $4 an hour in a real job, you would earn $1 an hour selling your farmed gold). (Feel free to make your own rates)
I think I would sell some of mine. It would be nice to make some cash playing the game, And I ussually farm when I'm bored, so I might as well turn it into a profit..
Please note: This thread has nothing to with bots. For the sake of the thread, assume that bots do not exist. Assume that the gold you would buy comes from real players who chose to sell their gold, and that you are not supporting the illegal bot factory.
And for the sake of the EULA, please don't post something such as "I already buy my gold from ebay".
Would you buy or sell gold if it was legal?
Henchman
lacasner
Oj: If i did it heres how
Not really smart to be talking about this imo.
Not really smart to be talking about this imo.
Pkest
Well by criminalizing the sale of any commodity you are essentially keeping the profit in it for the criminals. If you de-criminalize it then the profit goes away and so do the criminals. So I wonder what affect this would have on bots.
onerabbit
if u was aloud, i would sell my gold =p
i wouldnt buy any though lol.. unless it was from Anet or summin.
i wouldnt buy any though lol.. unless it was from Anet or summin.
Miral
No. There is so much wrong with trading real money for game gold and vice versa... Station Exchange is one of the reasons many people lost what little respect they had left for SOE. Don't let Anet suffer the same fate.
Healers Wisper
Ok let me say this, Buy fake gold with real money is stupid! Period. I would never buy gold so I could have stuff in a game that makes my toon look pretty. This is just dumb. And no I would sell my gold either. to me there is a sence of accomplishment in this game by getting expensive stuff and whatnot. this community may look at someone with FOW armor and say, how much did that cost on e-bay, but i know I worked hard for all my elite armor and assume others are looking for that same sence of accomplishment.
I will not support the give it to me know mentality that is plagueing our society. What ever happened to actually working for something, even if it is in game. Instant Gratification FTW
I will not support the give it to me know mentality that is plagueing our society. What ever happened to actually working for something, even if it is in game. Instant Gratification FTW
Blackest Rose
Honestly - if it was legal....
Yeah I'd buy gold - I hate not having a proper trade system and standing spamming/waiting for hours on end.
It'll probably be the major thing which will stop me from playing guild wars after 1 or 2 runs through GW:EN....
Would I sell gold - no, not out to make a few real world dollars - my time is more precious than that.
Yeah I'd buy gold - I hate not having a proper trade system and standing spamming/waiting for hours on end.
It'll probably be the major thing which will stop me from playing guild wars after 1 or 2 runs through GW:EN....
Would I sell gold - no, not out to make a few real world dollars - my time is more precious than that.
thezed
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Please note: This thread has nothing to with bots. For the sake of the thread, assume that bots do not exist. Assume that the gold you would buy comes from real players who chose to sell their gold, and that you are not supporting the illegal bot factory.
And for the sake of the EULA, please don't post something such as "I already buy my gold from ebay". |
(Not that I WANT this to become legal, it would seriously ruin the game economy)
HayesA
Well, it would work in Anet did it, and made it so that only registered farmers could sell gold for real money. That would in a way, stop a majority on the illegal sellers. By partnering with eBay to stop it would work as well. In theory that is. It's the exact same thing with a certain drug that will remain nameless. Some States are actually already on their way to legalize said drug; in limited, controlled means. Though, offical sales from the state nonetheless.
If anet did this in a smart, controlled manor, in a year or so, or otherwise a porportaional time frame; it would work.
Keep in mind, in theory yes. In practice, we'll have to see won't we? The only way to make theories into well established rules is experiment and work at it. Not to mention, "Best layed plans.."
They often fail.
If anet did this in a smart, controlled manor, in a year or so, or otherwise a porportaional time frame; it would work.
Keep in mind, in theory yes. In practice, we'll have to see won't we? The only way to make theories into well established rules is experiment and work at it. Not to mention, "Best layed plans.."
They often fail.
Yichi
OMG yes must buy 100000000000000k because gold in GW is so hard to come across....
/end sarcasm
In all honesty, it probably wouldn't effect the economy as much as many people would think it would. The game is full of people now that buy their guildwars gold from non-authorised sites and flood the economy with gold as it is. Why else would we have a warning about buying online gold from item sites on the login screen? The damage has already been done and its doubtful but not impossible that it would get much worse than it currently is.
/end sarcasm
In all honesty, it probably wouldn't effect the economy as much as many people would think it would. The game is full of people now that buy their guildwars gold from non-authorised sites and flood the economy with gold as it is. Why else would we have a warning about buying online gold from item sites on the login screen? The damage has already been done and its doubtful but not impossible that it would get much worse than it currently is.
Healers Wisper
Ok let me say this, Buy fake gold with real money is stupid! Period. I would never buy gold so I could have stuff in a game that makes my toon look pretty. This is just dumb. And no I would sell my gold either. to me there is a sence of accomplishment in this game by getting expensive stuff and whatnot. this community may look at someone with FOW armor and say, how much did that cost on e-bay, but i know I worked hard for all my elite armor and assume others are looking for that same sence of accomplishment.
I will not support the give it to me know mentality that is plagueing our society. What ever happened to actually working for something, even if it is in game. Instant Gratification FTW
I will not support the give it to me know mentality that is plagueing our society. What ever happened to actually working for something, even if it is in game. Instant Gratification FTW
Age
I would probably buy it like all things in life and would I sell it maybe for 100K for $1.it really not worth it.I wouldn't think about doing this if it was way easier to obtain it in game like before all the pve area nerfs came.I tell you they unnerf all those areas even the run and set it back to May05 my chances of buying are rare.
FoxBat
If it was legal?
Do let us know when the first goldseller is convicted or sued...
Do let us know when the first goldseller is convicted or sued...
WinterSnowblind
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If it was legal?
Do let us know when the first goldseller is convicted or sued... |
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/47220/
Jessyi
If I spend real life money on in game gold, that's stupid.
Time is money.
I already spend time in game, ergo, I am already stupid and therefore do not care.
I think people who think that buying in-game gold is stupid are stupid (let it sink in). First I'd like to say I've spent my unhealthy amount of time in game. I've got my gold and all the weapon and armor skins through legit means. But let's look at the people who have incentive to buy gold - the people you say need to get lives. Chances are the people pathetic enough to buy gold are in fact saving themselves time spent in game to like...go live real actual lives. If you make $10 an hour, and gold costs $50 per million, that's 5 hours of real life work to make a million gold. You can say it's 5 hours of real world money you just wasted on a game, but since it probably takes your average player like 50 hours+ to make a million gold (especially if they're a casual player) then you've saved yourself 45 hours or more to go do things like, shower, and...see the sun again. In a sum-total measurement of the cost of buying in-game gold, it's not at all stupid, it's economical.
That said, I've got no real opinion of whether or not buying gold should be allowed. Let's just say I've got a feeling that it's a bad idea. I think there are good reasons to dislike the sale of ingame gold (largely limited to the impact on the economy). However, without some kind of ANet report on the impact of gold farmers and a projected view of the impact it would have if it were made legal, you'll probably just argue that pointlessly in circles......
-Jessyi
Time is money.
I already spend time in game, ergo, I am already stupid and therefore do not care.
I think people who think that buying in-game gold is stupid are stupid (let it sink in). First I'd like to say I've spent my unhealthy amount of time in game. I've got my gold and all the weapon and armor skins through legit means. But let's look at the people who have incentive to buy gold - the people you say need to get lives. Chances are the people pathetic enough to buy gold are in fact saving themselves time spent in game to like...go live real actual lives. If you make $10 an hour, and gold costs $50 per million, that's 5 hours of real life work to make a million gold. You can say it's 5 hours of real world money you just wasted on a game, but since it probably takes your average player like 50 hours+ to make a million gold (especially if they're a casual player) then you've saved yourself 45 hours or more to go do things like, shower, and...see the sun again. In a sum-total measurement of the cost of buying in-game gold, it's not at all stupid, it's economical.
That said, I've got no real opinion of whether or not buying gold should be allowed. Let's just say I've got a feeling that it's a bad idea. I think there are good reasons to dislike the sale of ingame gold (largely limited to the impact on the economy). However, without some kind of ANet report on the impact of gold farmers and a projected view of the impact it would have if it were made legal, you'll probably just argue that pointlessly in circles......
-Jessyi
Neo Nugget
sell gold? pffft no way.
buy gold? nahhh still no
buy gold? nahhh still no
MrFuzzles
Gold isn't a big deal in GW since it's so easy to get "max" stuff anyway. You could probably get lvl20, a max collector's weapon with the most desirable inscription, and max armor within a week of casual play.
If gold purchasing or an item shop became available in GW I wouldn't care at all. I would not buy any gold but maybe sell some. It's not a big deal if others spend real cash on novelty and vanity items that I can't afford.
It's mostly pvp games where the cap for "max" stuff is high that I think buying gold is a big deal. You are essentially bringing real money onto the monopoly table to beat other players. I'm not going to dispute it in a game where it's allowed and intended by the makers of the game, but people trying to justify it in a competitive pvp game where the sky is the limit as far as gear and wealth goes, are naive and self-centered.
The "it's my money, I can do with it whatever I want" argument doesn't hold any water when you're spending it on cheating in a game where it's specifically against the rules. It's like bringing a race car to a horse race and justifying it by "hey I spent my own money on it, it's none of your damn business".
If gold purchasing or an item shop became available in GW I wouldn't care at all. I would not buy any gold but maybe sell some. It's not a big deal if others spend real cash on novelty and vanity items that I can't afford.
It's mostly pvp games where the cap for "max" stuff is high that I think buying gold is a big deal. You are essentially bringing real money onto the monopoly table to beat other players. I'm not going to dispute it in a game where it's allowed and intended by the makers of the game, but people trying to justify it in a competitive pvp game where the sky is the limit as far as gear and wealth goes, are naive and self-centered.
The "it's my money, I can do with it whatever I want" argument doesn't hold any water when you're spending it on cheating in a game where it's specifically against the rules. It's like bringing a race car to a horse race and justifying it by "hey I spent my own money on it, it's none of your damn business".
Zorgy
Would you buy or sell gold if it was legal?
Would you buy or sell DRUGS if it was legal?
Why dont you play GW instead of posting such kind of topics?
I know the answer.....
Who will create the next MORON topic?
Would you buy or sell DRUGS
if it was legal?Why dont you play GW instead of posting such kind of topics?
I know the answer.....
Who will create the next MORON topic?
Zorgy
Would you buy or sell gold if it was legal?
Would you buy or sell DRUGS if it was legal?
Why dont you play GW instead of posting such kind of topics?
I know the answer.....
Who will create the next MORON topic?
Would you buy or sell DRUGS
if it was legal?Why dont you play GW instead of posting such kind of topics?
I know the answer.....
Who will create the next MORON topic?
Painbringer
Buy – No, I am too cheap to pay a monthly charge (why would I pay for gold)
Sell – No, Not worth the time to farm it (You would have to have numerous bots to be able to turn a real profit)
Sell – No, Not worth the time to farm it (You would have to have numerous bots to be able to turn a real profit)
jrk247
As much as I'd like to have all the gold and buy w/e I want whenever I want, I wouldn't buy gold even if it was legal. I don't think people realise that gold buyer/sellers are the ones F@!$#!ing up the in game economy.
To the OP: Go take an economy/marketing class before you come here and post stupid threads. Kthx
To the OP: Go take an economy/marketing class before you come here and post stupid threads. Kthx
Yaga Philipe
Nope. I play the game to have fun, not to spend money. I also agree with jrk247.
Gli
I'd sell everything on my account for as much as I could.
Then I'd go look for another game.
Then I'd go look for another game.
impression
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I'd sell everything on my account for as much as I could.
Then I'd go look for another game. |
Have fun and Play fair,
impression
spellsword
Pre loot scaling, I wouldn't. Now, depends on the price and avaliability.
Roo Ella
A big fat NO from me on both questions
A I make enough just to get by in the game
B I don't make enough to sell gold.
Even if Anet made the selling/buying/exchanging of gold in the store ( to cut out bots? or whatever reason)
I wouldn't buy it from there as to me it's more fun working for what you want to achieve
A I make enough just to get by in the game
B I don't make enough to sell gold.
Even if Anet made the selling/buying/exchanging of gold in the store ( to cut out bots? or whatever reason)
I wouldn't buy it from there as to me it's more fun working for what you want to achieve
Metal Herc
Theres no way I would buy gold. Spending real money, for money in a videogame? Gimme a a break. I have better things in my life than a game. And to make a job out of it? Same answer.
Chthon
No. Not only would I not buy gold, I would quit the game in an instant. Go check out one of those "free" Korean grindfest MMOs like Conquer Online if you'd like to see what official gold/item selling does to a game. It's not pretty.
whitedragon
I would say no on first(not alot to sell)
and yes on second for if you could buy/sell gold, All items would cost millions and millions (and thats just to look at them) inflation would skyrocket. IMO
and yes on second for if you could buy/sell gold, All items would cost millions and millions (and thats just to look at them) inflation would skyrocket. IMO
drago34
No, I would never want to contribute to screwing up the gw economy any worse than it is.
cyberjanet
OMG can you imagine the spam in Lion's Arch?
OMG can you imagine the scams in Lion's Arch?
OMG can you imagine the scams in Lion's Arch?
Surena
I think it's cool for people who can only spend few hours in a week to get the stuff they want - if it would be legal. Nothing wrong with that. However since it is it's idiotic to do it and get caught/banned, it's not worth the trouble.
Working in GW is something I can never grasp, maybe it's because many here are simple students or still go to school, get fed by mom and dad and never earned real cash.
Working in GW is something I can never grasp, maybe it's because many here are simple students or still go to school, get fed by mom and dad and never earned real cash.
Etta
Look at Codemasters and what they did with Archlord, you can buy in game gold on its offical site! And look at how good the game is? Not very, infact it's rather crap.
Shaq_gw
I think it is and has to be illegal because the ability to make real money will lead to all kinds of unwanted behaviour a.k.a scamming, hacking, loot stealing etc etc.
Without that i would see no problem.
To the ppl who say that gold buying is stupid, consider this. (hypothetical)
If it takes me 1 day to farm 100k gold and 30 minutes of real life work to buy 100k. Why should i not buy gold so i can do stuff in game a little more fun than farming?
Without that i would see no problem.
To the ppl who say that gold buying is stupid, consider this. (hypothetical)
If it takes me 1 day to farm 100k gold and 30 minutes of real life work to buy 100k. Why should i not buy gold so i can do stuff in game a little more fun than farming?
Sophitia Leafblade
Na i make enough gold from Questing and doing missions etc. I wouldnt ever need to buy gold, so no i wouldnt buy/sell gold even if it was not against Anets policies.
daraaksii
Buy low sell high. gg.
Sli Ander
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To the ppl who say that gold buying is stupid, consider this. (hypothetical) If it takes me 1 day to farm 100k gold and 30 minutes of real life work to buy 100k. Why should i not buy gold so i can do stuff in game a little more fun than farming? |
This is the part that confuses me the most about gamers today:WHY ARE YOU DOING SOMETHING IN A GAME YOU DON'T ENJOY? If you don't have fun doing something, why are you doing it? To get pretty armor that does the same as 'ugly' armor? That's like working a job you don't like so you can afford to live in an expensive apartment which is identical to the cheaper apartment down the hall...
I'd rather work a job I enjoyed for the cheaper apartment, and save the extra money for getting a nice place one day.I apply the same philosophy to the game. For all my characters I use the basic armor for their profession, killing critters on the way to get collector armor, and squirrelling away the money for later. My first character beat the game in collector armor, and the only reason some of my other char's have non collector is because the first guy funded it.
If you want gold in the game, don't play harder, play smarter(the same adage that applies to life). If you save up those collectables that can be used for festivals, and then sell them for cheaper than everyone else you can make quite a bundle.
Please forgive the off-topic bit, there have been several threads whining about drops/'can't make enough gold' lately and its starting to get on my nerves. Too many players would rather change the game (or complain about it) than sit back and think about what they could do differently to have a bit more fun.
As for my answer: No, I wouldn't buy gold. I like the feeling of satisfaction that I get from knowing that I earned every single gold piece in my inventory. As for selling it, it wouldn't really be worth my while. I don't farm, so I have enough to make my characters comfortable and that's all I really need. All my extra gold went to my guild.
But that's just my two cents
arcanemacabre
I completely agree with Sli Ander, well said. Now, I will admit to something - I have purchased in-game currency with real money before. But, and this is important, it was not in Guild Wars but a different game - Anarchy Online. It was a few years ago, and I would say it was my first real experience with an MMO. That game was notorious for grind, and I mean huge amounts of grind. The level cap was at an enormous 220! Gear/loot was not only important, also, it's pretty much a staple.
Once I got far enough in, around level 60+, I realized how expensive items around my level were getting, and the fact that I'd have to farm in order to get basic gear. That's ridiculous. I was so addicted that I felt the only way I could enjoy it was to just buy the credits on eBay, which I did, twice. I bought around 2mil, which is probably equivalent to about 200k in GW gold. It lasted me till around level 70. Yeah, I left that game shortly after.
I pretty much vowed that I would not be playing games that relies on grind. Optional grind is fine with me, but when you feel the need to work in a game just to keep average efficiency, yeah, hell no. Guild Wars doesn't rely on grind in the least. Because of that, I see no reason why anyone would feel the need to purchase gold - at all. Vanity items are the only thing that requires high amounts of gold, but that falls into the "optional grind" category. That's fine. Why you would want to buy virtual gold for optional vanity items is way beyond me.
Once I got far enough in, around level 60+, I realized how expensive items around my level were getting, and the fact that I'd have to farm in order to get basic gear. That's ridiculous. I was so addicted that I felt the only way I could enjoy it was to just buy the credits on eBay, which I did, twice. I bought around 2mil, which is probably equivalent to about 200k in GW gold. It lasted me till around level 70. Yeah, I left that game shortly after.
I pretty much vowed that I would not be playing games that relies on grind. Optional grind is fine with me, but when you feel the need to work in a game just to keep average efficiency, yeah, hell no. Guild Wars doesn't rely on grind in the least. Because of that, I see no reason why anyone would feel the need to purchase gold - at all. Vanity items are the only thing that requires high amounts of gold, but that falls into the "optional grind" category. That's fine. Why you would want to buy virtual gold for optional vanity items is way beyond me.
Mister O
My occupation? GW gold seller...
Big_Iron
It's painfully easy to earn gold in GW, so no, I wouldn't buy or sell gold. That's why I'll never understand beggars or scammers when it's so easy to make it just by playing the game.