A friend and I were talking about this earlier today. We don't do a lot of PvP and she was unimpressed with the GvG reward weekend. We've had double whatever point weekends, triple dye drop weekends, Boardwalk weekends and increased percentage chance to drop rare item weekends. These weekends get rehashed and recycled frequently and, while still generally beneficial, they have become somewhat mundane.
So just now, while working my Paragon back from LA to Ascalon, I got an idea.
What about just once, as an experiment to see just how good or bad it is, we have a weekend where henchmen and heroes don't share our gold or drops? I want to see if ol' Koss really is sitting on a hidden pile of greens. I want to know just how much Tahlkora spends on her hair. And, I really want to see if Eve is hording bones to build a shrine to Grenth.
So how about it? Think it would work, just for a weekend, if Anet flipped off the loot sharing switch?
A New Weekend Event Idea
RSGashapon
fenix
Wow...worst idea ever. People would farm the crap out of EVERYTHING with heroes/hench, and get the full drops. Bad, bad, bad. Bad.
RSGashapon
Don't see how bad it would be compared to the current situation. People already farm, even more so to make up for the terrible idea that is loot-scaling.
Bots wouldn't be affected either, they never are when Anet decides to nerf something.
Bots wouldn't be affected either, they never are when Anet decides to nerf something.
liquidBass
Nevermind having an event like that but how about we get to see what drops the hench/heroes get? It would probably be frustrating seeing a green going to Olias or whoever but it would still be interesting to know what you missed on, or didn't 
lucifer_uk
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would still be interesting to know what you missed on, or didn't
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Lykan
No sir, I don't like it.
RSGashapon
Care to explain why this is such a terrible idea? It's one weekend... I highly doubt it'll bring about The Great Guild Wars Depression.
ErikB
Nah not such a bad idea till I realize exactly what I'm missing out on >.< - I'm sure the main bad idea is that it would cause major farming....whack up the market...
Operative 14
Actually, this might be really fun 
And I don't see this cuasing a lot of inbalance in the game, It's just one weekend. There wouldn't be any more farming than there is on triple dye drops, double green drops, or quadruple (farmable item) drops. Personally, I think it would be very interesting to recieve what the henchmen and heros get when you're out playing and farming. You know they're hording hundreds.. nay, thousands, heck, tens of thousands of green items so that they can buy their freedom someday.
And I don't see this cuasing a lot of inbalance in the game, It's just one weekend. There wouldn't be any more farming than there is on triple dye drops, double green drops, or quadruple (farmable item) drops. Personally, I think it would be very interesting to recieve what the henchmen and heros get when you're out playing and farming. You know they're hording hundreds.. nay, thousands, heck, tens of thousands of green items so that they can buy their freedom someday.
Just Another Chest Runner
/notsigned
if we got all the drops it WILL cause market inflation
every single time double gold chest run weekend comes around you see prices plummet. i wonder if theres a reason...
if we got all the drops it WILL cause market inflation
every single time double gold chest run weekend comes around you see prices plummet. i wonder if theres a reason...
Commander Ryker
I have been saying this since these weekend things started. Double drops do me no good as I don't usually get any of what's being doubled anyway. Double of nothing is still nothing.
onerabbit
omg .. its for 1 weekend - it will be great fun!
/signed
/signed
havok019
/signed and we need something new. It's just one weekend and the economy will be wrecked in about 26 days anyway.
This last month has been pretty crappy on weekend events. Double exp, who cares? GvG, not relevant to many. Team and Random arenas, bugged.
This last month has been pretty crappy on weekend events. Double exp, who cares? GvG, not relevant to many. Team and Random arenas, bugged.
Molock
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Don't see how bad it would be compared to the current situation. People already farm, even more so to make up for the terrible idea that is loot-scaling.
Bots wouldn't be affected either, they never are when Anet decides to nerf something. |
Since loot-scaling there has been more bots
And the idea, eum well I don't think its a very good idea... prices are already low enough =/
Big_Iron
At first, when I read this, I thought, "Hell yeah! I'm sick of Mhenlo and Koss gobbling up my loot." But others have made really valid points. I can't even give away some of the greens I already have because the market is glutted; and ectos and shards are about at an all time low.
*sigh* It seemed like a good idea at first glance, but /not signed.
*sigh* It seemed like a good idea at first glance, but /not signed.
Miral
i think its a great idea. hell, do it permanently. let the more casual people get a chance at decent loot instead of having to be a hardcore solofarmer or really really lucky to get anything good.
drago34
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Care to explain why this is such a terrible idea? It's one weekend... I highly doubt it'll bring about The Great Guild Wars Depression.
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Miral
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But it would... It would kill the economy so badly.
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drago34
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i think its a great idea. hell, do it permanently. let the more casual people get a chance at decent loot instead of having to be a hardcore solofarmer or really really lucky to get anything good.
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Perynne
A weekend like this wouldn't let you see what drops the heroes get, since you wouldn't know if it's your luck that got the green, or if it was something that went to a hero. Unless, of course, drops were marked and you wouldn't be able to pick them up. Way to piss off a lot of players by waving rare greenies in front of their noses which they can't take.
I don't like this idea. Like it's been pointed out, it would only be a celebration for farmers and prices would plummet. Prices plummeting is not necessarily a bad thing, but a weekend like this is really not a stable way to go about it.
I happen to like current weekend events. The double exp is wonderful for a person working on survivor, and the others are small perks that benefit anyone who plays that part of the game. You can't expect to like every single weekend, but then again, there will be others who are happy about it.
I don't like this idea. Like it's been pointed out, it would only be a celebration for farmers and prices would plummet. Prices plummeting is not necessarily a bad thing, but a weekend like this is really not a stable way to go about it.
I happen to like current weekend events. The double exp is wonderful for a person working on survivor, and the others are small perks that benefit anyone who plays that part of the game. You can't expect to like every single weekend, but then again, there will be others who are happy about it.
drago34
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the economy has already been seriously borked since the first time 55 solofarmers saw play.
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HayesA
You know, this isn't a halfbad idea. I mean, seriously, lootscaling was a bad idea. Plus it seems to not effect the hardcore farmers at all. The econ is already borked due to items being over farmed. I mean, arn't golds already exempt from loot scaling? The only thing it would stop is gold coin drops, and purples. Big whoopdydoo.
I don't see why it's 3 steps backward. Seriously. I think it might be a step forward; in that I honestly don't think prices can get any lower.
I'm signed.
I don't see why it's 3 steps backward. Seriously. I think it might be a step forward; in that I honestly don't think prices can get any lower.
I'm signed.
Miral
it made progress... but then when rare items were made exempt from scaling that progress was instantly gone. If they wanted a balanced economy they'd put full loot scaling and increase drops for everyone a bit, but that ain't the case. Instead they scale back loot scaling and decrease drops for all. bleh.
Yandawar
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A weekend like this wouldn't let you see what drops the heroes get, since you wouldn't know if it's your luck that got the green, or if it was something that went to a hero. Unless, of course, drops were marked and you wouldn't be able to pick them up. Way to piss off a lot of players by waving rare greenies in front of their noses which they can't take.
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Neo Nugget
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Care to explain why this is such a terrible idea? It's one weekend... I highly doubt it'll bring about The Great Guild Wars Depression.
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**ppsssst trader reset and rollbacks**
Muspellsheimr
/Signed - something new (preferably not item/point related)
/Notsigned - this idea
/Notsigned - this idea
reetkever
/signed
Prices will drop down like a brick, economy will be overflooded with all sorts of things cause of the farming in Hard Mode...
In other words, things will become WAAYYYYYY cheaper.
Besides, it's everyone's chance to get a little bit richer again, they shouldn't just do it for a weekend, but forever, really. Before the lootscaling was introduced, things were WAY easier to get than now.
Prices will drop down like a brick, economy will be overflooded with all sorts of things cause of the farming in Hard Mode...
In other words, things will become WAAYYYYYY cheaper.
Besides, it's everyone's chance to get a little bit richer again, they shouldn't just do it for a weekend, but forever, really. Before the lootscaling was introduced, things were WAY easier to get than now.
RSGashapon
So my idea has met with mixed opinions, it isn't all that good, but not totally hated. But hey, what does Anet do instead? Completely shaft PvE players yet again. What do we get this weekend? Double faction and fame in HA... wow, now there's an awesome idea!
*yawn* Wake me up in a week, please.
*yawn* Wake me up in a week, please.
garethporlest18
Um, The market is dead now anyways with what we would be getting. Rares aren't worth anything, mods are barely worth anything to make a difference. Rare skins usually wouldn't drop where everyone would be farming and Elemental swords are too ugly to be worth that much anyways.
So bring on the weekend event of no greedy henchman. So I have more stuff to merch so I can make money off of it. Cause we all know you can't sell anything that drops anymore.
So don't give me none of that hodgepodge about the market dying.
Tell me about a weapon that doesn't drop from HA, that's worth more than 100k? Not more than 2-3 are there. Excluding the Torment Weapons because they don't drop and Gems are 20k tops.
Tell me a mod over 35k. I don't think there are any.
Tell me a green over 50k. Rago's might be worth that much, but I highly doubt anything else is.
Rare materials, unless you have stacks, aren't worth that great of a buck either. (no that's not good english)
Runes are dead big time. Dye tops at 6k, not that you'd get 100 black dyes in that weekend anyways. But I'm sure it'd drive the price down a few k. But so what? Then people can stop putting ugly colors on armors thinking they're elite cause it costs so much.
Tomes are already dropping in price, last I sold. They'd drop more of course, but they'd always be around the 2-3k mark, so it isn't that big of a deal.
So bring on the weekend event of no greedy henchman. So I have more stuff to merch so I can make money off of it. Cause we all know you can't sell anything that drops anymore.
So don't give me none of that hodgepodge about the market dying.
Tell me about a weapon that doesn't drop from HA, that's worth more than 100k? Not more than 2-3 are there. Excluding the Torment Weapons because they don't drop and Gems are 20k tops.
Tell me a mod over 35k. I don't think there are any.
Tell me a green over 50k. Rago's might be worth that much, but I highly doubt anything else is.
Rare materials, unless you have stacks, aren't worth that great of a buck either. (no that's not good english)
Runes are dead big time. Dye tops at 6k, not that you'd get 100 black dyes in that weekend anyways. But I'm sure it'd drive the price down a few k. But so what? Then people can stop putting ugly colors on armors thinking they're elite cause it costs so much.
Tomes are already dropping in price, last I sold. They'd drop more of course, but they'd always be around the 2-3k mark, so it isn't that big of a deal.
Gimme Money Plzkthx
No. Reasoning: I would say it would kill the economy, but the economy is already dead so... this would be bad for the economy is a better phrasing.
Dodgers777
Sorry but does loot scaling mean that the amount of drops I get are the same whether I solo farm or go in a full group? Thx for the response.
hallomik
Compared to playing with a full party of either hench or other real players, playing this way would result in 8 times the normal amount of loot. This would apply to golds, greens, dyes - everything. This would be the Octuple Everything Weekend. This is so much more ridiculously more profitable than any weekend we have ever seen as to be extremely game imbalancing.
I think a lot of people have /signed because, let's face it, we all want a free lunch. I like effortless goodies as much as the next guy, but this is over the top. Also, just think how you'd feel if you had to miss this one due to some family obligation?
If you want to see what drops the heroes and henches are getting, just play with a full human group.
I think a more interesting weekend (but equally unlikely to actually happen) would be if all heroes and henches went on strike. All us PVE'ers would be forced to team up. Wouldn't that be something?
I think a lot of people have /signed because, let's face it, we all want a free lunch. I like effortless goodies as much as the next guy, but this is over the top. Also, just think how you'd feel if you had to miss this one due to some family obligation?
If you want to see what drops the heroes and henches are getting, just play with a full human group.
I think a more interesting weekend (but equally unlikely to actually happen) would be if all heroes and henches went on strike. All us PVE'ers would be forced to team up. Wouldn't that be something?
genofreek
I'm all for new weekend events, especially the ones that'll net me some nice loot without extra effort, but this is seriously not the way to do it.
The market is already about at rock bottom anyway without giving people 4-8 times the loot and gold they were picking up previously. I just bought 5 minipets and a few maxed green items, and none of them cost me more than 5k. I have a decent max green hammer I'm trying to sell, and I can barely give the thing away. Runes and Insignias other than Sup Vigor don't go over 500g, and throwing that much more crap into the market, even for a weekend, doesn't look like a good idea to me.
The market is already about at rock bottom anyway without giving people 4-8 times the loot and gold they were picking up previously. I just bought 5 minipets and a few maxed green items, and none of them cost me more than 5k. I have a decent max green hammer I'm trying to sell, and I can barely give the thing away. Runes and Insignias other than Sup Vigor don't go over 500g, and throwing that much more crap into the market, even for a weekend, doesn't look like a good idea to me.
MagmaRed
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I think a more interesting weekend (but equally unlikely to actually happen) would be if all heroes and henches went on strike. All us PVE'ers would be forced to team up. Wouldn't that be something?
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I like this idea. I hero/hench a LOT, but understand that there are people who do not have good heroes and don't pick hench well. Having a weekend that made heroes and hench worthless would be fun. Make people WANT to join other people to play the game. Could be as rough as no hero/hench being available for the weekend, or as mild as disabling their elite skills. But I do like that idea.
/unsigned for getting hero/hench drops
/signed for something new
Operative 14
Well, here's one way to look at it; since it would be an octuple drop weekend for all items, perhaps it could be looked at as a way to clear the market for all the new things in GW:EN. As Garethporlest18 stated ever so eloquently, prices for most items have already plumeted. Perhaps having a weekend to create a clean slate for GW:EN items might be good. Also give a chance for some intrepid peoples to make an extra buck before the 31st by getting a higher number of whites and other merchantable items. I remember when they first released Nightfall, they have a triple drop weekend for Canthan Greens (and yet i still didn't get a single one) that was meant to do exactly the same thing.
Ivan Aidrann
Limitless players are complaining about how loot scaling screwed farmers, and now you're suggesting we completely get rid of solo farming for a whole weekend, because in this 'event' it will make no difference whether you go out solo or with henchies.... bad idea
What happens when all are human players? Does the loot still get shared among the players, cause in that case no-one will fight with another human player for the whole weekend, which basically completely removes the idea of what an MMO is... again.... bad idea
/not signed, no chance
What happens when all are human players? Does the loot still get shared among the players, cause in that case no-one will fight with another human player for the whole weekend, which basically completely removes the idea of what an MMO is... again.... bad idea
/not signed, no chance
frickett
/signed
I see no problem with it, it is just a weekend thing. That is why they are called Bonus Weekend Events.
I see no problem with it, it is just a weekend thing. That is why they are called Bonus Weekend Events.
Hawkeye
*After the weekend*
Me: "I'm looking for a very rare green item!"
Them: "250 g"
Me: "But, you don't even know what I want..."
Them: "250 g for all greens. 100g for golds."
Me: "WHAT?! What happened to the economy? I suppose now you're going to tell me Ectos are worthless.."
Them: "Nope. I sell'em for 100g for 10 ectos."
Me: "WHAT?!"
Them: "Hey! If you think my prices are too high, go somewhere else..."
Me: "I'm looking for a very rare green item!"
Them: "250 g"
Me: "But, you don't even know what I want..."
Them: "250 g for all greens. 100g for golds."
Me: "WHAT?! What happened to the economy? I suppose now you're going to tell me Ectos are worthless.."
Them: "Nope. I sell'em for 100g for 10 ectos."
Me: "WHAT?!"
Them: "Hey! If you think my prices are too high, go somewhere else..."
Ivan Aidrann
hehe, a bit of an exaggeration, but a good point
Operative 14
People solo farm and get a somewhat higher number of drops than they do playing with heros and henchmen. I don't understand how one weekend could effect the economy in such a drastic manner as you all describe; it would probably only net about double, or at most triple, the drops you would get if you were soloing anyway.