Wow, GWEN is a complete ripoff.

hobbit man

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So, this time we are paying $40 for an expansion? We get no character slots either am I correct? Usually, we pay $50 for a campaign and get 2 character slots. So basically, we pay $30 for a new continent with completely now content. But, this time...we pay $40 for just new content and a minor addition to the map. Does anyone else feel like this a complete ripoff?

Burning Crusade was $30, it was an expansion and that makes sense. An expansion should be $20 - $30. But, GW is $40 for a game where they don't even try to maintain the quality nearly half as well? I never played Burning Crusade, but I can guess that it added much more content than EON did. Yeah, WoW has a monthly fee...but, that's besides the point. An expansion should not be 80% of the price of the standalone. It should be somewhere around 40-60%. ANET seems to rip fans off without caring at all.

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So? Don't buy it then.

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How do they rip you off? they don't go to your house with a gun pointed at ur head and say: BUY EYE OF THE NORTH! If you call it a rip off then just forget about the expansion and don't buy it.

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Originally Posted by hobbit man
Yeah, WoW has a monthly fee...but, that's besides the point. uh... hello??? that's exactly the point, and like etta said, dont like it dont buy it

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It is Anets franchise, and they can choose whether how much they want to sell their item, whether it be a dollar or 1,000 dollars... Just like you can choose whether you want to play the game. If you think its a rip-off dont buy it....

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I thought it was ganna be $30, but oh well im still ganna. And you never know they might change something for the good before it comes out lol.

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Apart from what was said above you are also WRONG.

BC was released at a price of £30 which is the same as the original game!

and from the blizzard website:
[QUOTE=Blizzard Website]World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade will be available at retail stores nationwide for Windows® 2000/XP and Macintosh® formats at a suggested retail price of $39.99.[QUOTE]

Get your fact's right
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit man
So, this time we are paying $40 for an expansion? We get no character slots either am I correct? Usually, we pay $50 for a campaign and get 2 character slots. So basically, we pay $30 for a new continent with completely now content. But, this time...we pay $40 for just new content and a minor addition to the map. Does anyone else feel like this a complete ripoff?
No. I can't believe your using the character slots to measure what the price should be. Product prices almost never work like that.

Quote: Originally Posted by hobbit man But, GW is $40 for a game where they don't even try to maintain the quality nearly half as well? What? Are you completely blind? The graphics are the best they've ever been, they have features from all 3 games (skill quest rewards, Heros, minigames, inscriptions, titles), most of the game is a dungeon network and it's ALL level 20 content. How is the quality half as good?

Quote: Originally Posted by hobbit man
I never played Burning Crusade, but I can guess that it added much more content than EON did. Really? Seeing as how you never played either, I'd say you're pulling this info outta your butt cuz it fits your argument.

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Originally Posted by hobbit man
Yeah, WoW has a monthly fee...but, that's besides the point. Yeah, that's nice. Ignore facts because they are contrary to your argument.

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WoW itself sold for 50-60 bucks at one time. Not just that, but the 15 dollar monthly fee!

GW:EN is like MapleStory price-wise compared to WoW.

Also, GW:EN allows you to use the Hall of Monuments and get starter items in GW2. In this way, it's a bit like a pre-release pack AND an expansion, so GW:EN can cost more.

Plus I wouldn't be surprised if ANet's prices were a bit wacky. It's how they keep us from having to pay monthly fees.

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It's almost $40 cheaper over here, so I'm really not complaining.

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Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper
How do they rip you off? they don't go to your house with a gun pointed at ur head and say: BUY EYE OF THE NORTH! If you call it a rip off then just forget about the expansion and don't buy it. ROFL! I just got this image in my head of Gaile Gray kicking down my front door running up the stairs to my computer room and and forcing my to get out my wallet and buy EOTN at gun point! LOL!

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Guys calm down... I guess he is complainning because he likes Guild War and wanna to continue playing the next chapter, yet he find the cost not as worth it as other chapters.

Me, I'm a faithful Guild War lover... I almost play the game everyday since the first prophecie release. I will definitely purchase the next expension, because I really enjoy playing Guild War.

However, I do agree... with no new character slots, and... No new elites *I think anet have confirm no new elite skills this time* ! They should probably lower a bit of the game cost.

In my humble opinions, I guess the reason they don't input new char-slot is because u can't create any new characters! But they should at least input more skills such as elite-skill for pvp-minded guild war fans.

Oh well, but yeah... Anet is good enough to be monthly-free online game and that's just wonderful. *If they can only fix their laggy problems* I'd say WoW = rip off~

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Clearly you know exactly the size and scope of all the content of Eye of the North, otherwise you would not be able to make this kind of statement.
The rest of us will just have to wait till the end of the month to find out what we will be getting for our money, which is probably a lot.

I'd also like to point out that many non-online games that you would purchase for similar prices with similarly priced expansions have much less content that you will play for a tiny amount of time compared to GW. Which really just makes GW games much better value for money and the opposite of a rip-off.

I'll also point out that the UK pricing is very similar to other game's expansions, with the previous campaigns having been cheaper than many other games at release.

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I don't see how someone could post this and not expect to get flamed.

I personally don't think Blizzard should've charged ANYTHING for Burning Crusade, considering the ridiculous monthly fees... but maybe that's "besides the point".

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Originally Posted by rancidgoat
ROFL! I just got this image in my head of Gaile Gray kicking down my front door running up the stairs to my computer room and and forcing my to get out my wallet and buy EOTN at gun point! LOL! I'm sorry to tell you, you have to much imagination.

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Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper
How do they rip you off? they don't go to your house with a gun pointed at ur head and say: BUY EYE OF THE NORTH! If you call it a rip off then just forget about the expansion and don't buy it. Didn't you get the memo? A.Net will delete every account that hasn't bought EotN.

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I'm sure you can find it at a bargain price somewhere.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit man
So, this time we are paying $40 for an expansion? We get no character slots either am I correct? Usually, we pay $50 for a campaign and get 2 character slots. So basically, we pay $30 for a new continent with completely now content. But, this time...we pay $40 for just new content and a minor addition to the map. Does anyone else feel like this a complete ripoff?
You cannot quantify it like that. How do you know that the content of say Factions isn't worth say $45 and you get the extra 2 slots for a discount price so you can play the 2 new professions without deleting an existing character? Or even how much the content is "worth" at all? How much is the extra map worth? How much would GW:EN be worth if it didn't include the Hall of Monuments? Perhaps there should be a slightly cheaper edition of the game but without the new heroes just for people who don't use heroes?

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This thread fails on so many levels...

you don't like the cheaper price for a chapters worth of high end content and the link between GW1 and GW2? heh, your loss

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Oh gimme a break hobbit man... your thread most certainly fails and you are awarded whit this picture:



Wanna know why? Well tell you what ANet is concerned for poor countries and countries in transition so in my country Guild Wars costed 25 Euros and now it is 15 Euros. Expansion is a bit more than 12 Euros so don't you say Guild Wars is a ripoff! WoW costed 50 Euros and expansion costed from 40 Euros to 100 Euros deppending of collectors or normal edition. I have playrd Burning Crusade and i can tell you that it had less new stuff than GW:EN will have. And note that game hasnt came out yet so we don't rly know what more will it have. Plus ArenaNet for diffrence of other developers team (evry single one) cares about customers and do make changes and they updates very often and provide new free content. The fact you wanna flame... dont care about it,but if you think EotN is crap well dont buy it! You are the one who loses...

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I paid $50 for Prophecies, got 4 character slots.
I paid $50 for factions, only got 2 character slots.
I paid $50 for Nightfall, only got 2 character slots.

FACTIONS AND NIGHTFALL ARE A RIPOFF!!!! I'm reporting A-net for scamming!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by rancidgoat
ROFL! I just got this image in my head of Gaile Gray kicking down my front door running up the stairs to my computer room and and forcing my to get out my wallet and buy EOTN at gun point! LOL! LOL! you win the thread. Have a cookie.

hobbit man

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
I paid $50 for Prophecies, got 4 character slots.
I paid $50 for factions, only got 2 character slots.
I paid $50 for Nightfall, only got 2 character slots.

FACTIONS AND NIGHTFALL ARE A RIPOFF!!!! I'm reporting A-net for scamming! Wow, this is a stupid argument...I can also say:

I paid $50 for Nightfall, got 4 slots...
and 2 for $50 in the other ones...

But, whatever...I'm not gonna argue anymore because everyone here will disagree. Good thing GW2 is gonna come out in the next couple years, this game was bound to die out. All I do is RA and I'm gonna buy EON just for the skills for RA. That's the only fun part of GW left...then again, I don't have too much hope for GW2 either because:

Prophecies: AMAZING game
Factions: Horrible
Nightfall: Mediocre

So, yeah, the game will probably be hit or miss imo.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit man
Wow, this is a stupid argument...I can also say:

I paid $50 for Nightfall, got 4 slots...
and 2 for $50 in the other ones...

But, whatever...I'm not gonna argue anymore because everyone here will disagree. Good thing GW2 is gonna come out in the next couple years, this game was bound to die out. All I do is RA and I'm gonna buy EON just for the skills for RA. That's the only fun part of GW left...then again, I don't have too much hope for GW2 either because:

Prophecies: AMAZING game
Factions: Horrible
Nightfall: Mediocre

So, yeah, the game will probably be hit or miss imo. You seem to have missed the dripping sarcasm of his post... i shall get you a mop and bucket

street peddler

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i dont feel like in any way im being ripped off...

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Nothing better than a Rant from an Acadamy Page eh?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit man
Burning Crusade was $30, it was an expansion and that makes sense. An expansion should be $20 - $30.
The Burning Crusade was and still is $39.99US. It's the standard price for an expansion now a days, and it's not like you have to P2P each month after you buy it.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646436

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But, GW is $40 for a game where they don't even try to maintain the quality nearly half as well? I never played Burning Crusade, but I can guess that it added much more content than EON did. Yeah, WoW has a monthly fee...but, that's besides the point. An expansion should not be 80% of the price of the standalone. It should be somewhere around 40-60%. ANET seems to rip fans off without caring at all. I love how you can say the bold portion without having played either of the expansions in question. If Blizzard maintained half the quality in BC that Anet had for its games BC would have been a whole lot better. Unfortunately the launch of BC just meant that the majority of players were now in a P2P beta for the first two or so months after release. Lots of the quest didn't work, content was missing, dungeons had to be reevaluated and rebalanced.

Having owned and played all of the GWs campaigns, and both WoW and BC I can honestly say Anet has a lot better quality control than Blizzard. And, while BC released to new starting areas and a new end game continent there wasn't much too it. Within a month I had already explored most of the game, just casually playing, and was already doing end game. I quit playing WoW in April... I don't think I'll ever go back!

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Sorry for double post, I'm on a really bad connection atm.

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Originally Posted by hobbit man
Wow, this is a stupid argument...I can also say:

I paid $50 for Nightfall, got 4 slots...
and 2 for $50 in the other ones...

But, whatever...I'm not gonna argue anymore because everyone here will disagree. Good thing GW2 is gonna come out in the next couple years, this game was bound to die out. All I do is RA and I'm gonna buy EON just for the skills for RA. That's the only fun part of GW left...then again, I don't have too much hope for GW2 either because:

Prophecies: AMAZING game
Factions: Horrible
Nightfall: Mediocre

So, yeah, the game will probably be hit or miss imo. You remind me of this guy that’s been on the Gamespot GW forums for over 2 years. All he does is criticizes on everything rather good about GW, because supposedly “they ruined everything that was good after the beta event.” It’s quite sad really 2 years of pointless arguments and trolling. Well thank you for sharing opinion, but it’s a little late in the game to be making this argument about the price. If you can’t stand the price I suggest you wait till it goes on discount or something; because as others have pointed out "no one is making you do anything."

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HAHAHA LMAO

What a dumbass

Quote:
Wow, this is a stupid argument...I can also say:

I paid $50 for Nightfall, got 4 slots...
and 2 for $50 in the other ones...

But, whatever...I'm not gonna argue LOL you have again failed at stating facts correctly.

Go buy BC for $30, then play it for 3 months, add in the monthy fee, how much does BC cost now?

Go buy GWEN, then play it for 3 months, add in the.... well nothing, how much does GWEN cost now?

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The way I figure it, I've played Guild Wars for over 600 hours. That's (roughly) 200 hours per Chapter (although I admit I spend most of my time in Prophecy). Still, considering most games give you about 40 hours worth of gameplay, as long as I spend at least 40 hours in GW:EN, it will be way worth it.


For those math impaired, that's a dollar an hour at most. If you're like me, and will probably spend 200 hours playing GWEN, it's more like $0.20 an hour...

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Originally Posted by Etta
So? Don't buy it then. QFT.

If you don't want Anet to "rip you off" then don't buy from them. Don't like the price? Then don't buy it. It's as simple as that.

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Originally Posted by hobbit man
All I do is RA and I'm gonna buy EON just for the skills for RA. This thread just lost all credibility.

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Originally Posted by sindex
You remind me of this guy that’s been on the Gamespot GW forums for over 2 years. All he does is criticizes on everything rather good about GW, because supposedly “they ruined everything that was good after the beta event.” It’s quite sad really 2 years of pointless arguments and trolling. Well thank you for sharing opinion, but it’s a little late in the game to be making this argument about the price. If you can’t stand the price I suggest you wait till it goes on discount or something; because as others have pointed out "no one is making you do anything." Could this annoying idividual you are talking about happen to "Like Toast"?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit man
Wow, this is a stupid argument...I can also say:

I paid $50 for Nightfall, got 4 slots...
and 2 for $50 in the other ones...

But, whatever...I'm not gonna argue anymore because everyone here will disagree. Good thing GW2 is gonna come out in the next couple years, this game was bound to die out. All I do is RA and I'm gonna buy EON just for the skills for RA. That's the only fun part of GW left...then again, I don't have too much hope for GW2 either because:

Prophecies: AMAZING game
Factions: Horrible
Nightfall: Mediocre

So, yeah, the game will probably be hit or miss imo. Thank god. The less people like you in our game, the better.

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When each game was released, I always saw it for $39.99 on shelves so I was kinda' surprised, initially, to see GW:EN also for $39.99.. Of course, later, I realize that this is suggested retail price and that the other three games' SPRs were $49.99 so whatever.

Either way, no; I do not think it is a rip-off. Though who wouldn't be happier with $29.99? I expect that the price will be worth it.

Snow Bunny

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What a durkheimian reaction you have reaped hobbit!

Man, that nowadays takes some effort.

I would suppose that the OP is the example of how NOT TO MAKE A THREAD.

Example A, Ladies and Gentlemen, we call this, "Failure"

and I laughed so hard at Gaile breaking down my door.

Ah...heh. Gaile's coersion wins this thread.

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Originally Posted by chikorita23
Me, I'm a faithful Guild War lover... I almost play the game everyday since the first prophecie release. I will definitely purchase the next expension, because I really enjoy playing Guild War. Almost ever day? If you were really faithful, you'd be playing everyday like I do.

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my 2 cents lol

how can gw:en be a rip off have you looked at the map its as big as the frist game was and its not even showing the 18 dungens to me gw:en is going to have more area then 1 st game as much as nightfall if any game ripped you off it was factions( notsay ing it was a rip off )

if you look at the games and everything they gave you each one added something new other then skills and toon slots

factions added allaince and new titles along with 2 elite mission areas

nightfall added heros and elite missin area also and if you count hard mode sence we did not have to pay one thing for it also the storage was made bigger

and gw:en will add lots more new content then any game did every one thinks expansion means smaller and it not that at all its expanding the game is all it means so when wow did there it was tiny all they have is one game for gods sack you cant expand much

with guild wars there expanding 3 games!!!!



why oh why does somone have to come along to grip think about it 39.99 for gwen no monthy fee and if you where smart you woul dhave gotten it from anet store and get the mission pack in november once gwen comes out there willbe lots to do think about it half of factions and nightfall was easy becuz of low levels progression gwen will have max from the start and get alittle better(max i mean goa level stuff) and all gwen willbe high level stuff.

there is so many reasons to put out why gwen will be the biggest bang for your buck. comeo n 3/4 of the frist game all there was is level 15 or less heanches and party size of 6 or less through most of them game.

wow make syou pay 10 bucks a month you buy the expansion at 39.99 add that onthy fee and its 50 bucks the frist month over the next year in wow you will pay 120 bucks just to play the game along with your internet of say avwerage 30 bucks a month 360 dollars so wow is costing you 570 doallrs to play the frist year if you start it up

guild wars cost you 510 the frist year and thats if you get all 3 games so if you buyu gwen its about 540 doallrs

compare it out

wow=1 full game+1 expansion= 570 dollars for 1st year and start up

guild wars=3 full games +1 expansion+ hard mode update+mission pack= 540 for the rest of your life and you never have to buy anything again and its way bigger then wow better game play better graphics

why spend the extra 30 doallrs to play somthing that looks like a 5 year old kid drew it (yes i suck typing i most likly have 500 typos by now)

bottom line guild wars has never ripped you off in anyway your ripping your self off by playing wow

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sindex
You remind me of this guy that’s been on the Gamespot GW forums for over 2 years. All he does is criticizes on everything rather good about GW, because supposedly “they ruined everything that was good after the beta event.” It’s quite sad really 2 years of pointless arguments and trolling. Well thank you for sharing opinion, but it’s a little late in the game to be making this argument about the price. If you can’t stand the price I suggest you wait till it goes on discount or something; because as others have pointed out "no one is making you do anything." Zinger posts on Gamespot too?

Think hobbit missed the point (and although he was been incredibly sarcastic) so did Kook.

I paid 30 quid for Prophecies, i got 4 character slots.
I paid 18quid for Factions, i got 4 character slots. But i added it to my existing account so got 2 and extra content.
I paid 18quid for Nightfall, see above.

But yeah the RA quote just makes this whole thread laughable ^^