What to do with hard insults?

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltar
nice. i was thinking it and you posted it (mmayb because i work with diagnosed retards).
Maybe, if you really worked with them, you'd know that "retarded" is not an acceptable word. As someone who works in the field, you should know better then to use "retard".

Aleta

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

TTP

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravenholm
lol, you did the best thing there and i hate the fact that it goes on.

To be honest i do admire you for even bothering to learn English, i mean most British people when they go over to Spain and other countries they expect everyone to speak English which is an insult to Spain and other countries cultures.

So my advice is just to ignore it, sure it will make then say more insults but thats just because they are getting angry as the aren't getting a reaction out of you :P
I am not condoning how the OP was treated let me make that clear.

Yes it is admirable he has learned English. And as you say an insult to other countries if you go there and expect English to be spoken.

And there is the main problem here in So. California. The Hispanic language is shoved down our throats day after day after day. There is no respect for the United States in their learning English. Most refuse. And no this isn't speculation it's fact. Again I do not condone what was done it was rude and cruel. I do understand the frustration and anger behind it. Even though that anger is no call for what was done

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

Im sorry u had to deal with a 40 yr old man with the maturity of a a SEcond Grader. Its what u get for playing PvP they are generally meaner....not to say PvE is good....eek

Compare it this way

PvP= Gladiator enthusiasts
PvE= Farm enthusiast :P or fighting against AI which is sad to begin with

Government Flu

Government Flu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Paradoxa Zoloft Asylum [PXZ]

W/R

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MEXICANS GO TO HELL, WE WANT YOU ALL DEAD. I HATE MEXICANS, THERE ARE TOO MUCH IN CALIFORNIA.
Rednecks play Guild Wars too. Unfortunately, ever since the whole immigration issue heated up, you're going to hear a good amount of this bull, especially in PvP areas.

dsnesnintendo

dsnesnintendo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

chinese food

N/Mo

i'd have to say grow a spine, a pair, and get over it, but im kinda an ass so i'd say report them

also try picturing them in their grandma's basement, doing things to pictures of women they will never get, and failing at life. always helps

Pae

Pae

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

It's an international game, so people can deal with it. Since it was AB and a guy from outside the alliance, there really wasn't a way to keep it in a private area. Report and ignore the guy. Don't let the morons get to you. I have to admit that playing in The Deep with a majority of Korean players/Korean in chat was pretty amusing. ^_^

Lord Feathers

Lord Feathers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return

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How to deal with Rude people ? Insults ? Bad attitudes ?

For the most part in-game and in real life you can't do a dang thing about them. So I would say just ignore them. In my own experiences though the P vs P crowd is far more mouthy and insulting then the P vs E crowd but each side has bad eggs to start with.

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Productivity
I'd suggest you stop expecting everything in life to be a padded room and ignore it... Complaining about it just encourages them.
BS, just report scrap, and make em pay for their deeds, ignoring does not help to improve the world. Too many people ignore problems of every degree, and that is what is changing societies into groups of egoistic selfcentered individuals. It has nothing to do with politics, but more with what can be achieved by intervening. But in any circumstance you still need to start with action, you can't expect ANet to do anything if they don't know about the (specific) problem. Taking responsibility (and thus reporting for instance) is a good thing. I'm not aware how severe the word "beaner" is (I'm not a native speaker), but for me, racism and obvious discrimination induce the report reflex.

Act X

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

[BtP] r314

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemo the Capitalist
PvP= Gladiator enthusiasts
have you ever [?] pvped?

PvP= People who like to beat other people not the same programmed AI over and over and over.
PvE= People who like to beat the same preprogrammed AI over and over and over.

Gladiator is Random Arenas. RA is like how PvE people figure out that PvP is much harder and quit Gw, it is in no way that basis of the PvP culture.

samcobra

samcobra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Mo/Me

I agree with KcP's post almost entirely. People, no matter if you come from sheltered 'live with your parents in their basement' lives and can't deal with shit in real life, you need to learn. The world is always about people trying to get their 1up on you, and they'll bring you down in whatever way is needed to do that. You need to be able to surmount that of your own merit, not be a pansy and look for some higher power to sort it out. Because honestly, if you've already resigned yourself to reporting something, you've basically admitted that you're too inept to deal with something yourself and you have to go 'cry to mommy' to deal with it. When I grew up, kids like that got repeatedly beaten up when their 'mommies' weren't around. I guess you might be one of those kids too. I'm sorry about that, but seriously, get some balls and some confidence and deal with stuff yourself.

On another note, OP, I think what you did by shutting that guy down was awesome. That's exactly the kind of thing that people should do, defeat idiots with logic. If they realize how much of an idiot and an asshole they're being, people usually get humiliated and shut up. Make that happen. That invokes more changes to personality than some random 72 hour ban with error code 45.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Are you for real? Tell me, how does one 'deal with it'? Pretend nothing happened and congratulate yourself on being 'tough'? Talk back some 'tough' talk? 'Suck it up', 'grin and bear it', count the hairs on your chest? Quote the size of your penis? Any other playground-lifestyle tips you want to share?

Engaging idiots in conversation lowers you to their level. They've won as soon as you acknowledge them. Changing their personalities? Yeah, that's going to work, sure. A good telling off in an online game's chat, that's really a formative experience that changes a person's core personality and lookout on life. Maybe they'll even find Jesus.

Ignore, screenshot, report. That's the three-step program that works. The report you slap on them might even be the one finally resulting in a permanent ban if they're big enough idiots, but removing one for even as little as 72 hours is a good thing.

baz777

baz777

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Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

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I’m 48 the end of this month and can usually find this sort of behaviour from adolescent morons easy to ignore, (you mellow as you get older). However, some younger members in the guild have got quite upset in the past.

I get annoyed when I hear people say it’s all part of on-line gaming, not as far as I’m concerned it’s not!

I strongly advise all to screenshot it and report all abuse, and in particular racist remarks.

WarKaster

WarKaster

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Join Date: Dec 2006

Los Angeles

SlingBlades

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleta
And there is the main problem here in So. California. The Hispanic language is shoved down our throats day after day after day. There is no respect for the United States in their learning English. Most refuse.
I certainly do not want to start a flame war and every one is entitled to their opinion but you sir need to stop watching Fox News. First of no matter what part of the world you come from it's called Spanish...not Hispanic, not Latino and certainly not Mexican.

Do some of these people have trouble assimilating of course they do. Just like every single other immigrant group that has come to the United States before them has. Its a fact that a country that was built on immigration has to contend with.

Some groups assimilate faster than others, and it is only normal that they would seek out things that are familiar to them until they are used to life in a new country. For people all ready here it is easier for them to cater to a never ending customer base. Also immigrants from Latin America tend to spread out. As opposed to many if the Asian cultures that tend to populate and stay in certain areas the Thats why some people feel like they are being beat over the head with the Latino Culture.

Remember the immigrant base as a whole provides billions of dollars to the US economy. So what I'm saying is like everything else in the world it comes down to how much money can i make from this. and whats the quickest way possible. No one is trying to disrespect any one. They just seek out whats familiar. I mean wouldn't you guys do the same if you went some where else trying to find a better life for you and your family?

Maximumraver

Maximumraver

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Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
Ignore.

Make no reply.

Take screen shots and report to ANet

Know that you are a better person because you did not retaliate in kind, and you did the community a service by reporting this kind of behavior.
Nothing to add.

dragonofinfinity

dragonofinfinity

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

pretentious latin title[PTA]

R/Mo

its a shame about some peoples in game attitude.

probably deal wiht htem the same way my other GW playing realtives and i deal with trade spammers
1.take screens
2. add them to your friends list
3. it they do it again, take more seceens and report them with both sets.

wham ve been insulted in game ive ended up replying alling the lines of 'And i love you too darling!'
for some reason they expect insults back just not sarcasm.

Mikael2021

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

A/

How about not being such a drama queen? Its just a game! If you get affected by some random dudes insult so easily, then maybe you should clam up and ignore him. This is just a suggestion -because you did make a thread, and if you take what I say to heart.. it could be a life lesson. There are always jerks around, act accordingly or you will have a much more rugged time in life. Certainly do not get a third party involved.

Curse You

Curse You

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Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravenholm
To be honest i do admire you for even bothering to learn English, i mean most British people when they go over to Spain and other countries they expect everyone to speak English which is an insult to Spain and other countries cultures.
Just a quick question.

What about people who are unable to/have trouble learn(ing) new languages?

I myself have been taught French (for 5 years), Mandarin (for 6 years), Greek (for 1 year) and Latin (for 1 year). However, I can't speak, write or read any of them for the life of me. So is it ignorant for me to want to have someone who speaks English?

Pae

Pae

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

If I'm reading your post correctly... if you're having problems learning a language, wouldn't you think that other people do too? It's also one thing to prefer being around people who only speak English or ask people to when you need to know what they're saying in a party and another to curse out people who aren't speaking it.

And though it says American districts, I'd imagine that it isn't limited to the U.S. (think Americas instead of United States of America), since there's Spanish, as well as several other languages in Mexico, Central America, and South America and French in Canada. You also obviously have smaller populations of other languages, though I haven't really come upon those in American districts, yet.

gasmaskman

gasmaskman

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Join Date: Jun 2006

None, I don't play anymore.

Mo/W

Quote:
Remember the legal immigrant base as a whole provides billions of dollars to the US economy.
Fixed for you.
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They just seek out whats familiar. I mean wouldn't you guys do the same if you went some where else trying to find a better life for you and your family?
If I went to a different country I'd respect their culture and try and learn their language.

WarKaster

WarKaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Los Angeles

SlingBlades

D/Mo

@ gasmaskman

If you think only Legal immigrants keep the economy going you are sorely mistaken my friend. It is a general known fact that if you work and live in the U.S. you pay taxes. You pay taxes on the gas you buy, the clothes you wear and sometimes the food you eat whether you are here legally or not. The government does not care where the money comes from as long as it gets their money.

As far as people respecting culture and learning the language, there are a record number of people applying for an becoming US citizens. And guess what you have to learn the language and the history and culture of the US to become a citizen. If becoming a citizen of a country that is not your own is not a sign of respect I don't know what is.

thehoweller

thehoweller

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere NorthWest of Ranik

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Etta
Take a screen shot, write down the time and place of the incident and report them as a racist, done. Open a can of beer, sit down and watch the rerun of heroes. Log on guru and see a new" I just been banned! can anyone help me?!!" thread.
Biggest ROFL I've had in days

I'm all for insulting someone in game and destroying their confidence, but racism bridges the gap for me.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

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1. /report
2. [] Harassment
3. + Ignore list
4. Wipe hands on pants

mafia cyborg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

hard insults = nothing IMO
racist insults = report

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

Ya the only thing I would bother reporting is racial insults. Just ignore the rest and enjoy the fact that you didn't step down to their level.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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I just normally say

(A) [So's] Your Face
(B) That's What Yo Mama said
(C) I know you are but what am I?

The only 3 phrases you ever need when arguing with idiots.
Usually it annnoys them more, they get fustrated and just shut up.

its childish yeah but effective

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReiNaruto
I was wondering if you can do anything about ppl insulting you.
I have zero tolerance for racists, so my suggestion is screenshot and report. You can find the report form at www.guildwars.com in the support section, don't forget to add the screenshot and note what time it happened to help them locate the remarks in the log.

If the threats are such that you actually fear for your life or property, then you'll need to talk to your local police. Screenshots will still be important. Always screenshot.

hurric

hurric

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

BC

as people suggested, take a screenshot and report them and they'll get banned while ignoring them knowing they're not worth you getting angry about.

There're a lota racist idiots. I'm not mexican but this HA group I joined were just making fun of mexicans on vent and I just quit the team and left the group. As you know there's filters on your char name for racist names so they probably get banned for this too.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

I hate racism too and homophobia equally.

People using naughty words towards me in RA for tesing my crap builds I just randomly came up with usually just reults in me going offline. But if they arent offline or DND they get a piece of their own shit right back at them for a roffle XD.

I've actually had a 3 day ban for replying to someone that kept on flaming me via PM after an RA match. I got rather hot tempered and they started crying and reported me for treating them the same way they did me. I got extremely vulgar with 'Your Mom' jokes, but nothing racist. So now I just try to make sure I am always offline, but I keep forgetting to change to offline when I load the game.

Couldnt Anet put in an option to automatically put you on offline as soon as you start the game? The only people I need to talk to are on alliance and Guild chat, I dont need PM's from anyone, just the green and orange chat channels.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

It's quite odd I suppose.

I really like playing Starcraft, but I log on and every match there's "fag/gay/bitch/I could go on..." and then I log onto GW, and while it's less, it's still there.

It's just odd that wherever I go online, I encounter this. Thank goodness one of my roommates is gay; whenever someone nearby says, "fag" he goes ballistic so I don't have to hear it. I'm your average straight white guy, but I don't like hearing racial/sexual insults anymore than anyone else.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Mhe, I don't let stuff like that bug me. They just go on one of my lists.

The one entitled : People who don't deserve to live, general stupidity (get around to it eventually)

Kusandaa

Kusandaa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
I hate racism too and homophobia equally.
Yeah, same here. I'm gay but white, and both just throw me off really bad. But depending on my mood, I'll react in one of the following ways:

- Egg them on. Means I'm in a good mood. I won't even be pissed off what people say, I'll be having too much fun trying to make them rage or see their reaction... and it pays off. No one has ever bugged me back about anything after doing that.

- Insult back. Because I tend to fight back; I've never been the type of guy to take beatings.

- Don't care. I think that's best tactics, but I let 'em ramble. They eventually shut up when you don't reply to them. Don't give in and just laugh about how sad it is because they're still PMing you 15 minutes after the incident. Oh and take screenshots to remind you of it when you're down, or to send to report.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
It's just odd that wherever I go online, I encounter this. Thank goodness one of my roommates is gay; whenever someone nearby says, "fag" he goes ballistic so I don't have to hear it. I'm your average straight white guy, but I don't like hearing racial/sexual insults anymore than anyone else.
Yeah, sometimes I just go ballistic too, although rarely. I'll generally say "well I'm gay and TBH I don't like when people say that, 'cause I'm not stupid ¬¬" and so on. What surprises me is that I get apologies every now and then. But it still bothers me. I think I'd punch the guy who started saying "gay" in such a way.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

/ignore

simple as that...

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

We're very intolerant of intolerance. By that I mean, racist comments and hate talk are high on the list of those that we react to with speed and due force.

Do not hesitate to type /report, the use "Verbal Abuse" as the reason. Based on your report, we can pull the chat records and handle the issue. I honestly don't think you even need to take screenshots, but they are helpful if you file a Support Ticket, which is different than the /report system.

(I'm very sorry for the comments and hope your future interactions are much more pleasant!)

Sub Frost

Sub Frost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Portugal

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thehoweller
Biggest ROFL I've had in days

I'm all for insulting someone in game and destroying their confidence, but racism bridges the gap for me.
How nice of you to bring back a 5 month old tread, just to share that with us.

/highfive

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

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Well you dont need vent to coordinate e/o in AB anyways..... yall can just have fun and chat in ur own time. if u were that seroius about AB then all 4 of you would have been in the same guild and just use guild chat. thast what i do with a friend of mine... and we usually pug so we dont even speak to them and still do fine in AB.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
(I'm very sorry for the comments and hope your future interactions are much more pleasant!)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Couldnt Anet put in an option to automatically put you on offline as soon as you start the game? The only people I need to talk to are on alliance and Guild chat, I dont need PM's from anyone, just the green and orange chat channels.
Gaile, please please consider this.

Future interactions in RA will never be pleasant when I'm playing a smite dagger monk. I just want auto offline because I forget to do it every time I enter TA to go allong with my unticked team chat.

Or just an option to disable PM's that stays set when you quit and restart the game.

UnKn0wN415

UnKn0wN415

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Bay Area

Looking 4 PvP Guild!

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ignore them its as simple as that, the more you talk back the more they has reason to keep talking or one my fav thing to do if someone is trying to insult me I just agree with whatever they say...

RedNova88

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

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As others have stated, SS and report, wait a while for a reply and assume the best. If they've gotten into trouble before they may receive a permanent ban... And even if they don't, perhaps they'll grow a conscience and realize racism is a horrid thing and is not to be taken lightly.

thor hammerbane

thor hammerbane

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dark Side of the Moon

Fat Kids Are Hard To Kid[nap]

You psychologically own them to such a degree they question their own sanity.

I love argueing, mainly because I'm good at it. I'll be honest; The RA flamers are the only reason why I haven't quit the game for good.

Just enjoy it. It's fun to amuse yourself with

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

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I wouldn't mind an option where you appear offline, but you can make a list of people you wouldn't mind talking to in your Guild/Alliance/Friends List.

just my $0.02.

---------on topic---------

I, personally, hate when people say racist/anti-orientation comments. "Fag/gay/homo" etc. they all upset me. People using gay as if it means stupid is completely wrong. Gay means homosexual, not stupid.
Gay =/= stupid. Saying gay as if it means gay means you care calling millions of men and women, myself included, stupid for how they see the same sex.

That is not at all tolerable in my opinion.

Same goes for the change in meaning on the N word. From the racist meaning with -er ending to the "hey, whats up my friend?" with the -a. That is just as stupid, and there are my people that can agree with me.