Survivor and LDoA on Same Character

Is it possible to get Legendary Survivor and Legendary Defender of Ascalon on the same character?

I was thinking about this. I've read all the posts about this topic and the answer given is always "Nope! Not possible!" This answer is always backed up with proof.

Guess what? There is a way.

No, I'm not drunk. I thought about a bit and you really can achieve both. It's not easy, heck it may even be impossible at this point, but a hole remains open that says it's POSSIBLE. Extremely, extremely, extremely improbable and to be honest I doubt anyone will ever achieve it, but still there is the slightest sliver of hope.

Ok, enough rambling. I know you're dying to hear my theory.

The posts that I've read on the subject have all debated that if a hard rez existed in Presearing then both titles are achievable. You need a friend that's as crazy and determined as you are on this goal. You partner up with your friend and go find some monster to death-level. Your friend dies over and over and over again while you use your hard rez to keep rezzing him. Once the monster reaches Level 20, your friend maps out and you kill it. You've just gained experience by death leveling without actually dying and kept your survivor track.

Alas, there are no hard rezzes in Pre-searing so that ends that method.

Or, are there?

If someone smuggles in a monk tome, you now have a hard rez in Pre. Is this possible? Perhaps! If it is, that smuggler stands to make a ton of gold.

How? Well anyone with a Perma-Pre character is aware of the guild hall exploit that existed in the game a long time ago. Arenanet found the exploit and patched it up long ago, yet items that were smuggled into Pre from the halls remain in Pre still.

I know what you're thinking. That exploit was fixed way before tomes were introduced.

What if someone had their presearing character in the guild hall when the exploit was plugged? What if that character is still there today? They could get some tomes and return to Pre today. Once back in Pre they are stuck there, but they could still be stuck there with a bagful of monk tomes.

Ok, that's my theory in a nutshell. Basically if any pre-searing characters were still in the guild halls when tomes were introduced, both titles are possible. The odds of actually achieving it are still close to nil but never say never.

I'm really interested to know if any tomes made it into pre.

BUBBLE POPPING 101 BASIC

a new build is available please log out and log back in

character is not in GH and patch is done.

character logs back in in pre and GH no longer there

POOF

no tomes in pre. there's a way to get ldoa and survivor at the same time tho. it takes 2 accounts, one with a ldoa already. the amount of time needed is monstrous but u can afk it overnight.
going public as soon as i complete mine, dont want anet to close this exploit to soon

thats funny cause some of my mules stayed in the guild hall for over a year. allthough they all got booted back to temple of balthazar or wherever a couple of days ago (strangely enough soon after the possibility was made aware to arenanet on presearing.com)

There are in fact tomes in pre.

Yea my guild leader said someone had apply poison and barrage.
Really bugs me because i didnt get to do that GH trick lol.

Using the same 8 skills does get tiring.

I wouldnt it be cool if there was ummmmmm a....lets see i dunno charr tome or something?

There is lot of weird stuff in pre.

I for one have ranger that can change secondary classes. no kiding. (bug that made it possible was fixed long time ago btw.)

This makes me wonder if you can bring your pre characters to your hall of monuments and get invited to other peoples. I mean how else are lvl 20's gonna get theyre LDoA title in there besides leave pre, which i would never do after all that time.

What ifs ifs resserect should be a presearing skill anyway and restorelife a post.

There is another way I think. And I believe people are already trying it. I made a new pre character recently and I rushed it to post by going straight to the arena. I noticed some higher level players there and they were kicking the crap out of the lower level players. I dunno if this was just faction farming, or if they are trying for both legendary and survivor but herein lies a method to do it and it requires lots of hard work and cooperation between 2 or more people.

Firstly, designate who will be the one to attain both titles. This person CANNOT die of course. Then you have 1-2 or more people cooperating to level each other up by of course, killing each other for XP. When the presear arena ends, everybody logs out and logs back in and they will wind up back in presear ascalon where they can play the arena again. Thus they need to play in that presear arena over and over and over to kill each other and level up. Finally, the person designated to get both titles kills those levelled up players over and over until they hit level 20. Now on to post sear where they have to get their survivor title. Voila, you can get both titles.

Obviously, the more people involved in this feat the better because if 8 players enter the arena at the same time and they are all friendlies, this is the perfect controlled environment to level up the designated players to level 20. Possibly, the experience increases even more if the other 3 players on the same team as the designated leave the arena early and leave the designated to collect ALL of the experience from kills rather than sharing. This could be sped up if the opposing players sac themselves or use vampiric weapons to kill themselves so the designated can collect xp faster.

I imagine a single guild set to this task could accomplish it fairly quickly. Any individual who wants to try it might find it hard to pull off.

wrong my sweet revenga, you will not get sent back to ascalon you will get sent to the rurik mission when you log back in.

I guess the release of GW:EN and the Hall of Monuments will answer our questions about account vs character-specific achievements.

It makes sense for them to be account-wide because we can't get both LDoA and Legendary Survivor on the same toon. Anet is aware of this and it will surely cause a riot if we don't get the recognition we deserve by having all accomplishments on show and the inheritance bonuses off all characters passing on to our GW2 accounts.

I personally think that unlocking monuments will be like unlocking skills, runes and weapon upgrades and will pass on to unlock weapon skins, armour skins and upgrades in GW2. I can't see the title accomplishments of a single GW toon rolling over and being reincarnated in GW2 where titles like Protector of Elona for example will have no meaning...assuming there's no Elona

Its theoretically possible. Using the death leveling method just make one person die and the other person rez the other person. This would of course take twice as long and you couldn't use the rez shrine trick.

I doubt this would work, but could you get a pet to stay at a res shrine, and set to "Heel" with you behind it and keep resurrecting as it death-levels? Or would it just run around?

And you cannot go afk. You have to press '1' every 20-30seconds. That is assuming that you have a hard res skill.

It would have to be Rebirth. You can do it from a distance and it has a teleport.

@cYC756: I like the pet idea. Pets gain levels from monsters so it stands to reason that monsters gain experience from them. This would probably help you get a Dire pet as well.

Your pet only gives monsters exp after its first death. Any subsequent deaths yield no gain.

Pets dont work the monster only gets the experience once then it does not again. Also to the people who left their pre-searing char's in GH, wouldn't you be kicked out when anet does their server maintenence? I've never actually be on one but I have read about them in notes and its states that their servers go down for a few hours.

Not possible - you get one rez out of Resurrection Signet and both party members need to die to be resurrected again.

I know some1 that has ressurct already learned via tome and is planning on doing this , level 17 atm..