This has been posted on several threads, thought it would be easier to have it in one place to discuss.
If mods feel this is repetitive, please Merge or Delete.
Thanks to Dont Mess WithMe for the links and GloryFox for typing these out.
SPOILER WARNING
Here's a list of possible Title Track skills taken from a flickr page:
Norn Title Track skills: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1048799054&size=l
Asura Title Track skills: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1047943095&size=l
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
[SPOILER] New GWEN PvE Only Skills
Mordakai
Asura skills
Air of Superiority 5 __ 20
Asuran Scan 5 2 5
Mental Block 10 1 15
Mindbender 10 1 24
Pain Inverter 10 1 16
Radiation Field 10 2 12
Smooth Criminal 10 2 20
Summon Ice Imp 10 3 60
Summon Mursaat 10 3 60
Summon Naga Shaman 10 3 60
Summon Ruby Djinn 10 3 60
Technobabble 15 1 14
Norn Skills
"Dodge This!" 4A __ __
"Finish Him!" 10 __ 30
"I am the strongest!" 5 __ 20
"I am unstoppable!" 10 __ 30
"You are all Weaklings!" 10 __ 12
"You move like a Dwarf!" 10 __ 10
A touch of Guile 10 __ 14
Club of a Thousand Bears 5 __ 12
Feel no Pain 5 __ 15
Raven Blessing 10 __ 120
Ursan Blessing 10 __ 60
Volfen Blessing 10 __ 60
As these are PvE only Title Track Skills, I don't think Heroes will be able to use them, as they technically don't "unlock" on your account (if they work like the Sunspear skills). Only the character actually getting the skill will have access to it.
That's not to say these won't be overpowered or unbalanced. As we see from the Kurzick/Luxon skills and Sunspear PvE only skills, Anet is no longer concerned with "balance" in PvE.
EXAMPLE: The Asuran skill screenshot shows Asuran Scan 5 en 2 ct 5 rc Hex Spell
For 12 seconds, your attacks against this foe deal an additional 75% damage. (italic numbers variable)
(which is fine by me, BTW. As long as these skills are attainable through "casual" play like Sunspear, and not like the dreaded Kurzick/Luxon Title grindfest.)
My thoughts are that the Raven, Ursan, and Volfen Blessings are the Norn Transform Skills. I get this idea from an image of a Raven in one of the shots http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1047945257&size=l
There are also videos of players summoning Djinn, Ice Imps and Mursaat so I'm pretty sure the Summon spells are legit as well.
Dreikki
"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30
Kuole munapää!
Threatening them in Finnish I guess. Oh well, bad joke.
Summonings have only 60s recharge so does anyone know how long they last?
Kuole munapää!
Threatening them in Finnish I guess. Oh well, bad joke.
Summonings have only 60s recharge so does anyone know how long they last?
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Dreikki
"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30
Kuole munapää!
Threatening them in Finnish I guess. Oh well, bad joke.
Summonings have only 60s recharge so does anyone know how long they last? No, the only spell with any details is Asuran Scan.
Also, keep in mind, this is not by any means final. Obviously, this could all change before release.
It's fun to speculate though... Maybe the summoned creatures last until they are killed (and you can only have one at a time).
Another interesting note: Why does Raven Blessing have such a long recharge? (120 seconds)
Kuole munapää!
Threatening them in Finnish I guess. Oh well, bad joke.
Summonings have only 60s recharge so does anyone know how long they last? No, the only spell with any details is Asuran Scan.
Also, keep in mind, this is not by any means final. Obviously, this could all change before release.
It's fun to speculate though... Maybe the summoned creatures last until they are killed (and you can only have one at a time).
Another interesting note: Why does Raven Blessing have such a long recharge? (120 seconds)
dsnesnintendo
lol guy has both kurzick and luxon skills
he must have "L337 Hazk04z SK!77z"
seeing those summons i know which coast im going to
he must have "L337 Hazk04z SK!77z"
seeing those summons i know which coast im going to
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by dsnesnintendo
lol guy has both kurzick and luxon skills
he must have "L337 Hazk04z SK!77z" From what I gather, this was a sneak peak for journalists. Anet obviously used cheat codes: he mentions using a rez command a lot to finish a mission.
he must have "L337 Hazk04z SK!77z" From what I gather, this was a sneak peak for journalists. Anet obviously used cheat codes: he mentions using a rez command a lot to finish a mission.
Absinth187
The skills have been listed on the official wiki since before mmognation posted the images on flickr I believe.
Check 'em out: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Categ...e_North_skills
I had the impression that the "birdie" pic was of a mini pet, but since he did say he was transforming it makes sense. Goes along with Ursan = bear and Volfen = wolf.
EDIT: Okay, maybe the blessings aren't the actual Norn form skills. Saw "Totem of Man, Totem of the Bear, Totem of the Wolf, etc." in another thread where someone hacked the gw.dat file.
Check 'em out: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Categ...e_North_skills
I had the impression that the "birdie" pic was of a mini pet, but since he did say he was transforming it makes sense. Goes along with Ursan = bear and Volfen = wolf.
EDIT: Okay, maybe the blessings aren't the actual Norn form skills. Saw "Totem of Man, Totem of the Bear, Totem of the Wolf, etc." in another thread where someone hacked the gw.dat file.
wajir0
oh wow
speechless.....
only heros can use those skills???
speechless.....
only heros can use those skills???
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by wajir0
oh wow
speechless.....
only heros can use those skills??? No, no.... only Characters can use these skills (if they work like the Sunspear skills). In Nightfall, when you earn Sunspear skills, they do not "unlock" on your account. They are simply there on your Skill list to chose from.
So, in other words, you can't use them in PvP and Heros won't have access to them.
But you certainly will!
speechless.....
only heros can use those skills??? No, no.... only Characters can use these skills (if they work like the Sunspear skills). In Nightfall, when you earn Sunspear skills, they do not "unlock" on your account. They are simply there on your Skill list to chose from.
So, in other words, you can't use them in PvP and Heros won't have access to them.
But you certainly will!
wajir0
ahhh
crystal clear thx
oh man (raven blessing) always wanted to be a Soj Raven
crystal clear thx
oh man (raven blessing) always wanted to be a Soj Raven
GloryFox
Thank you Mordakai for moving the skills information to a separate thread.
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"Dodge This!" 4A __ __
"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30
"I am the strongest!" 5 __ 20
"I am unstoppable!" 10 __ 30
"You are all Weaklings!" 10 __ 12
"You move like a Dwarf!" 10 __ 10 I'm guessing that these are shouts because of the quotes. From the sound of the skills I'll make some speculations.
NOTE the information below is ALL SPECULATION! NOT FACTUAL IN ANY WAY!
"Dodge This!" 4A __ __ Shout: Next ranged attack skill flies at 3x normal speed and does "x" amount of damage to moving foes? At first I thought it might be something that would be unblockable but there is Anthem of Guidance already.
"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30 Shout: Affects all party members in earshot Your next attack skill results in Deep wound plus "x" amount of damage? Sounds almost overpowered but so are most PvE skills. A party wide Eviscerate perhaps?
"I am the strongest!" 5 __ 20 Shout: You gain "x" amount of health and are healed for "x" amount of health as well? My personal guess is a combination of Endure pain and self healing at the same time?
"I am unstoppable!" 10 __ 30 Shout: Personal affect you gain "x" pips of regeneration and are healed for "x" amount of damage for 30 seconds? This might be a PvE only version of a Whammo's best friend?
"You are all Weaklings!" 10 __ 12 Shout: All enemies within earshot suffer from Weakness for "x" duration? There will already be a shout that will cause weakness that is a PvX skill. This particular skill sounds like a Warrior version of Anthem of Weariness but no attack skill required.
"You move like a Dwarf!" 10 __ 10 Shout: All enemies in the area are crippled for "x" duration? Seriously I expect this shout to affect the enemies movement in some fashion.
Since this is the end of GW1 I expect ANET to let us have some real power within the game.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
Since this is the end of GW1 I expect ANET to let us have some real power within the game.
I agree. Summoning Mursaat, Transforming to a Bear, +75% dam. to an opp... these are going to be awesome skills.
The only downside is that the other skills in the game will be weak compared to these. I can foresee characters having an Elite, than nothing but PvE only skills filling up their bar. And we have no clue what the Dwarf (Deldrimor Title Track) skills will be, or the Ebon Guard.... 50 PvE only skills at all, and this is just 24 of them! logan90
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Originally Posted by Dreikki
"Finnish Him!" 10 __ 30
Kuole munapää! Threatening them in Finnish I guess. Oh well, bad joke. Summonings have only 60s recharge so does anyone know how long they last? Actually it's "Finish Him!" if you look at the image. Whoever typed it up made a typo.
Mordakai
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Actually it's "Finish Him!" if you look at the image. Whoever typed it up made a typo.
LOL, fixed. Wishful thinking, I suppose.
Let me know if you see other errors.
GloryFox
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posted by Mordakai The only downside is that the other skills in the game will be weak compared to these. I can foresee characters having an Elite, than nothing but PvE only skills filling up their bar. I strongly disagree. I believe that many of the skills will sync better with some classes than others. For example the Summon skills are better for a Ritualist to cast than an Ele. Shouts would be better for Paragons than Hex spells. I think you will see about 5-10 PvE skills that seem to sync better overall with specific classes with an elite and at least 2-3 normal skills to supplement a specific build. Some PvE skills will be fully situational like Ebon Battle Standard of Courage. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ebon_...ard_of_Courage Overall I can't imagine dissing my normal skill options. Instead I can see using my normal skill to make a particular PvE skill stronger and more usable. For example: Save Yourselves + Aggressive Refrain + Focused Anger = + 100 armor on all your teammates but you 80%-100% of the time in combat. Yes Save Yourselves is a great PvE only skill but only because of the Paragon skills I use to supplement its effectiveness.
Absinth187
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Deldrimor Title Track
Breath of the Great Dwarf - Skill. All party members are relieved of Burning and are healed for X Health. 10e_1/4c_15r
other possibilities
Stout-Hearted
Dwarven Stability
Black Powder Mine
Snow Storm
Great Dwarf Armor
Great Dwarf Weapon
Drunken Master
By Ural’s Hammer
Don’t Trip!
A Brawling Headbutt
Low Blow
Nosyt’s Bite
Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
Marked For Death
Haunted Ground
Alkar’s Concoction
and
Ebon Vanguard Title Track
Ebon Battle Standard of Courage - Skill. You plant an Ebon Battle Standard of Courage at your current location. For X seconds, non-Spirit allies in this area gain +Y armor and an additional +Z armor against Charr. 10e_1/4c_10r
other possibilities
Ebon Escape
Sneak Attack
Ebon Battle Standard of Honor
Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom
GloryFox
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Deldrimor Title Track
Breath of the Great Dwarf - Skill. All party members are relieved of Burning and are healed for X Health. 10e_1/4c_15r
other possibilities
Stout-Hearted
Dwarven Stability
Black Powder Mine
Snow Storm
Great Dwarf Armor
Great Dwarf Weapon
Drunken Master
By Ural’s Hammer
Don’t Trip!
A Brawling Headbutt
Low Blow
Nosyt’s Bite
Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
Marked For Death
Haunted Ground
Alkar’s Concoction There are a total of 14 Dwarf skills. Some of those skills I know for sure (factual sources, interviews, etc) will be Dwarf skills so lets separate what we know for sure from other speculation.
1 Breath of the Great Dwarf
2 Alkar’s Concoction
3 Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
4 Drunken Master (BTW I happen to know this skill only works when drunk.)
5 Great Dwarf Armor
6 Great Dwarf Weapon
7 Dwarven Stability
8 Black Powder Mine
9 Light of Deldrimor
10?
11?
12?
13?
14?
Lets see if the community can sort these out from what we know so far.
BTW some skill Names have been changed or will be changed so we might find some name Discrepancies. Just be aware of that.
Mordakai
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_...e_North_skills
OK, so we have 100 Profession linked skills and 50 PvE only skills.
If we can establish what skills are Deldrimor, whatever is left unclaimed has to be Ebon.
Here's my guesses based on GloryFox and Absinth187's list:
Deldrimor Title Track
1 Breath of the Great Dwarf
2 Alkar’s Concoction
3 Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
4 Drunken Master
5 Great Dwarf Armor
6 Great Dwarf Weapon
7 Dwarven Stability
8 Black Powder Mine
9 Light of Deldrimor
10 Stout-hearted?
11 By Urals' Hammer?
12 A Brawling Headbutt?
13 Nosyt's Bite?
14 Low Blow?
Ebon Vanguard Title Track
1. Ebon Battle Standard of Courage
2. Ebon Escape
3. Sneak Attack
4. Ebon Battle Standard of Honor
5. Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom
6. Snow Storm?
7. Marked for Death?
8. Haunted Ground?
9. "Don't Trip!"?
Does anyone know any more skills, because we're still missing 3 Ebon.
OK, so we have 100 Profession linked skills and 50 PvE only skills.
If we can establish what skills are Deldrimor, whatever is left unclaimed has to be Ebon.
Here's my guesses based on GloryFox and Absinth187's list:
Deldrimor Title Track
1 Breath of the Great Dwarf
2 Alkar’s Concoction
3 Alkar’s Alchemical Acid
4 Drunken Master
5 Great Dwarf Armor
6 Great Dwarf Weapon
7 Dwarven Stability
8 Black Powder Mine
9 Light of Deldrimor
10 Stout-hearted?
11 By Urals' Hammer?
12 A Brawling Headbutt?
13 Nosyt's Bite?
14 Low Blow?
Ebon Vanguard Title Track
1. Ebon Battle Standard of Courage
2. Ebon Escape
3. Sneak Attack
4. Ebon Battle Standard of Honor
5. Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom
6. Snow Storm?
7. Marked for Death?
8. Haunted Ground?
9. "Don't Trip!"?
Does anyone know any more skills, because we're still missing 3 Ebon.
Bargamer
Drunken Master transforms you into Jackie Chan, but 20 years later, all the bones in your body have been broken at least once. Oh, and you have to endure Chris Rock as your Hero for 3 movies. He randomly hexes you, and almost gets you killed all the time, but you JUST CAN'T GET RID OF HIM.
No wonder the Asura are so confident of their intellectual superiority.
No wonder the Asura are so confident of their intellectual superiority.
Dreikki
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Actually it's "Finish Him!" if you look at the image. Whoever typed it up made a typo.
Yup I know, that's why I said that was a bad joke.
Also, KILLRROOOYY STONEKINN should be a dwarf skill :P
Also, KILLRROOOYY STONEKINN should be a dwarf skill :P
Hikan Trilear
Are you sure the boxing skills count as PvE only skills? I would think they would be more like the rollerbeetle skills and not really count.
GloryFox
Yes the Boxing skills are just for Boxing. However from what I understand you can find an elite Boxing skill that will help you in your boxing.
David Lionmaster
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There's a series of dwarven boxing quests that you do with an NPC that people who've played Sorrow's Furnace are very familiar with, his name's Kilroy. He's back in the north to settle some debts and you get to watch his back while he goes on a dwarven boxing spree. We switch your skill set out with boxing skills and at the end of this chain of quests you actually have not only a set of brass knuckles that you get to box with but also a set of PvE only boxing skills.
When he's talking about PvE only skills in that article, it sounds like he's talking about the 50 that we get. This quote leads me to believe we can use the brass knuckles and boxing skills anywhere in pve.
AlienFromBeyond
After you earn the right to use them anyways
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doinchi
I am really looking forward to the Norn Morphing skills, but I cant help but wonder if it will affect each class differently. A monk turning into a wolf or a bear in the middle of combat could effectively become a warrior. He could just turn back when someone needs healing. Also, if the bear and wolf totems give your character +X HP and +X Dam, I really can't imaigne any profession, well warrior at least, leaving town without it.
Can't wait to turn into a werewolf and go munch on some charr.
Mordakai
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I am really looking forward to the Norn Morphing skills, but I cant help but wonder if it will affect each class differently. A monk turning into a wolf or a bear in the middle of combat could effectively become a warrior. He could just turn back when someone needs healing. Also, if the bear and wolf totems give your character +X HP and +X Dam, I really can't imaigne any profession, well warrior at least, leaving town without it.
There could be a penalty (en loss, can't use certain skills, etc.) Or, it could just be + health... can't wait to find out!
wetsparks
I can't believe no one noticed the Michael Jackson reference in the "Smooth Criminal" skill. And if you are to young to have heard any Michael Jackson songs at least you would have heard the Alien Ant Farm version of it, even though it is a few years old now the radio station here plays it regularly.
Midnight08
sigh... is it the 31st yet? =( I’m getting impatient. I need new faming areas (and skills, some of the pve ones might be great for my builds), Djinn are getting repetitive.
Oohhh!!! I wanna bring "Summon Ruby Djinn" to the hidden city with me! (Blessings must be the "form” skills.... compare the recharge to Dervish Forms)(Note the 60-120 recharge)... Hell they might even be classless forms without self disabling... And yes, I noticed the Michael Jackson reference, but I try to avoid acknowledging his existence nowadays
Durin_Kane
Will be fun with signet of illusions.
doinchi
I too noticed the 1 minute recharge on the blessings. I think there aren't any other regular skills with 1 minute recharges? (Are there??)
And as for a penalty imposed for equipping a form skill, the simplest would probably be to make thr form skill an elite, much like dervish forms. And that would also prevent a dervish with Avatar of Balthazar and Volfen Blessing from becoming an armoured, holy damage dealing werewolf. Man I cannot wait to turn my warrior into a werewolf 
kenichiukiya
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I too noticed the 1 minute recharge on the blessings. I think there aren't any other regular skills with 1 minute recharges? (Are there??)
Some of the Ritualists' binding rituals are 60 sec recharge...if that's what u mean =P
Elena
we arent sure the Norn blessings are forms so yust dont get youre hope up when blessing of raven gives +50% more range on projectiles or something
Mordakai
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I also found confirmation that there will be a skill that works when Drunk. (Drunken master seems the obvious fit).
http://www.mmognation.com/2007/08/07/morning-demo/
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PvE-only skills allow them to be a little more directly for fun. “Be outrageous.” PvE-only skills are given out as quest rewards during the game. “You help a dwarf find some ale, and you get a skill that works better when you’re drunk.”
GloryFox
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posted by Mordakai | I also found confirmation that there will be a skill that works when Drunk. (Drunken master seems the obvious fit). Thank you Mordakai I knew it was somewhere out there, but could not find the link again. ... LOL I kept thinking I saw it in an interview video... to much info this week I guess. Thank you again for the find, I feel vindicated. Time to stock up on Dwarf Ale and Drunkard title!
Francis Demeules
Is it just me or Finish him! is the shout in Mortal Kombat to kill you opponent. I laughed When I saw the name
GloryFox
You know there may be more skills that are affected when you are Drunk. I ran across this skill description this morning.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Feel_No_Pain So what do you guys think? ANET has been hitting the bottle of late? Drunken Master + Feel No Pain, FTA! (FOR THE ALE!) Still searching for "Less Filling!" "Taste Great!" combo shouts.
Free Runner
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I'd be disappointed if that was the case. 120 recharge tells me it's something much more significant. Sigh. Until Anet confirms, we'll have to just wait and see...
I am pretty sure i read on one of the previews that one of the Norn PvE skill sactually does give you the Bear Form. Raven is listed as 120s recharge while Volfen and Ursan are listed as 60s
mafia cyborg
pve only skills = retarded
GloryFox
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posted by mafia cyborg pve only skills = retarded Go Troll someplace else please. PvE only skills = fun.. don't you know how to have fun?
mortis corpus
hmmm summon murzatt does that mean infusion runs are going to be popular *or shakes off the cobwebs off of his*
Silly Warrior
Please no trolling, I don't want to have to delete the thread do I...DO I?!
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