Since it's a bit pointless to ask "Will you buy GW:EN?" on a GW forum, I will explore the negative argument.
If you aren't buying GW:EN...why not?
It's obvious from my posts that I won't buy GW:EN. (maybe not initially, unless I'm very, very bored, I might buy it just to see how fast I can clear it with 3 SF Heroes...)
Part of it is, of course, I feel ArenaNet is heading down the wrong path. ArenaNet has made some very questionable decisions, and GW:EN appears to be more focused on Titles (5 rep grinds?!) and Minipets (Hall of Monuments, hah!). I'm not vain; I'm practical! If I wanted to grind for something, I'd be playing WoW, in which I actually progress my character through grinding...
The other, and likely more important reason, is that real life beckons. I'll be a high school senior this year, it'll be busy, and I put schoolwork before gaming. Plus, there will be a plethora of console games being released in the same timeframe as GW:EN, including Metroid Prime 3, Mass Effect, and Halo 3.
Please do not invite users, however subtle the wording, to disrupt your own thread. Personal call-out removed.
If you aren't buying GW:EN...why not?
Zinger314
Bryant Again
As to people not buying GWEN: Some people might be pissed about the fact that in order to get the box AND the mission pack, they have to buy GW:EN twice.
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lacasner
I will not buy it the day of release, which of course can be bad in some senses.
First of all, it will probably cost me a lot of money because i will miss out the opportunity to exploit noobs with new shiny objects for a large profit. Also, i will probably be left out of PvP of course just because of probably 7 skills for each class or so which of course will be very overpowered.
And school semester is starting, I don't want to mix my priorities in life.
And also my moral awareness isn't really letting me..when I know I'm somewhat overpaying for the game.
Pretty much the biggest reason is..I would like more changes to happen (especially pvp wise), and just don't have that interest in gw to continue pursuing every move of Anet's.
And to sum it up..yea, pretty much not enough changes to keep me interested atm.
First of all, it will probably cost me a lot of money because i will miss out the opportunity to exploit noobs with new shiny objects for a large profit. Also, i will probably be left out of PvP of course just because of probably 7 skills for each class or so which of course will be very overpowered.
And school semester is starting, I don't want to mix my priorities in life.
And also my moral awareness isn't really letting me..when I know I'm somewhat overpaying for the game.
Pretty much the biggest reason is..I would like more changes to happen (especially pvp wise), and just don't have that interest in gw to continue pursuing every move of Anet's.
And to sum it up..yea, pretty much not enough changes to keep me interested atm.
Pangarna Omega
I won't be buying GW:EN because I don't think I should pay money for something that wont really enhance my GW gaming experience, when there are other titles out there providing more enjoyment for a fraction of the price
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Nevin
On topic, I feel anyone not buying GW:EN, shouldn't really have any interest in the GW:EN section of the forums.
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MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by Bryant Again
As to people not buying GWEN: Some people might be pissed about the fact that in order to get the box AND the mission pack, they have to buy GW:EN twice.
Well, they don't neet to pay for it twice, they can still get many things:
- Slots, (almost useless) PvP editions, 1MUpdate, Preorder... eh... nothing else.
But... wait, wait? Could there be a reason not to get it? Seriusly? Really?
Ok... ok... I'll try to think a reason... hm... let's see... I can think of a few reasons:
- No cash.
- No Internet connection.
- Parental punishment.
- Accidental permanents blindness/hand amputation.
- Severe brain damage.
- Stupidity.
- Bad karma.
- War.
- World War.
- Meteor holocaust.
- Apocalypse.
- And the worst: Stubbornness.
I can't think of more.
When Nightfall was out, some of my guildies claimed that there were not enough reasons to get it... after listeing other players about the new content, they neded to get it, and now thay are getting it. Sooner or later, many will get it. Even having reasons currently right now not to get it. Reasons may change.
I'm getting it for sure, though.
- Slots, (almost useless) PvP editions, 1MUpdate, Preorder... eh... nothing else.
But... wait, wait? Could there be a reason not to get it? Seriusly? Really?
Ok... ok... I'll try to think a reason... hm... let's see... I can think of a few reasons:
- No cash.
- No Internet connection.
- Parental punishment.
- Accidental permanents blindness/hand amputation.
- Severe brain damage.
- Stupidity.
- Bad karma.
- War.
- World War.
- Meteor holocaust.
- Apocalypse.
- And the worst: Stubbornness.
I can't think of more.
When Nightfall was out, some of my guildies claimed that there were not enough reasons to get it... after listeing other players about the new content, they neded to get it, and now thay are getting it. Sooner or later, many will get it. Even having reasons currently right now not to get it. Reasons may change.
I'm getting it for sure, though.
Mercury Angel
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On topic, I feel anyone not buying GW:EN, shouldn't really have any interest in the GW:EN section of the forums.
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Personally, I don't know if I'm going to get GW:EN. I agree that I don't like some of the design decisions Arena Net has made, but I don't think my gameplay has been impacted severely by them. GW:EN would probably still be an enjoyable timesink.
However, this Fall will be my first max credit hours semester I'll have attempted, and it's both expensive and time consuming. GW:EN would be both a time and moneysink I don't think I'm ready to afford just yet.
I have my own criticisms of Anet, but ultimately, I think they've done an overall good job. Just not quite good enough to get me to say, "To heck with it!" and order it anyway. Yet. Perhaps in the future, but at the moment, no.
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Added by Moderator: Continuity Edit. I disagree strongly. I peruse Magic the Gathering's boards, as well as watching Super Smash Brothers. I've spent no money on either, have no Wii, and plan on buying neither in the future, but they interest me for various reasons regardless.
Personally, I don't know if I'm going to get GW:EN. I agree that I don't like some of the design decisions Arena Net has made, but I don't think my gameplay has been impacted severely by them. GW:EN would probably still be an enjoyable timesink.
However, this Fall will be my first max credit hours semester I'll have attempted, and it's both expensive and time consuming. GW:EN would be both a time and moneysink I don't think I'm ready to afford just yet.
I have my own criticisms of Anet, but ultimately, I think they've done an overall good job. Just not quite good enough to get me to say, "To heck with it!" and order it anyway. Yet. Perhaps in the future, but at the moment, no.
Malice Black
I'll see what the "sneak peek" is like. I doubt I'll play it for very long even if I do buy it. Bigger and better games are on the way.
Havre Fras
I'll just quote what I wrote on GWO.
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Besides, I rarely play anyway. Simple. Nothing more to add to it I reckon.
TheLichMonky
Maybe maybe not... i mean starcraft 2 is comming out and i need to practice xD
natuxatu
I think Guild Wars is headed in the absolute right path. I think GWEN is what should have come out two years after the orginal. I said elsewhere.. it was cool of Anet to try something different with the stand alone chapters but it really wasn't working out. I'm really looking forward to this and to GW2 because i'm sure for Guild Wars 2 they will only release expansions instead of the stand alones so...
I'm totally buying it. Can't wait! The dungeons look great also with having more interactive elements and finding a map of and keys to unlock doors.. i totally dig that.
I'm totally buying it. Can't wait! The dungeons look great also with having more interactive elements and finding a map of and keys to unlock doors.. i totally dig that.
DarkWasp
Well I can give ye a reason why I'm not buying GW:EN now...
... Get ready
... This is epic!
... Because I already did!
Yep I got it pre-ordered!
Those of you who arent going to be buying it, I wish you all good luck in whatever else you are doing. You're actauly making a wise choice if you are planning to wait and possibly reconsider, as long as you arent in the market.
You shall be missed!
... Get ready
... This is epic!
... Because I already did!
Yep I got it pre-ordered!
Those of you who arent going to be buying it, I wish you all good luck in whatever else you are doing. You're actauly making a wise choice if you are planning to wait and possibly reconsider, as long as you arent in the market.
You shall be missed!
Bowstring Badass
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On topic, I feel anyone not buying GW:EN, shouldn't really have any interest in the GW:EN section of the forums.
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Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Nevin
On topic, I feel anyone not buying GW:EN, shouldn't really have any interest in the GW:EN section of the forums.
Ever thought some people are unsure whether they want to buy it or not, so they come on the GWEN forum to check out other peoples opinions?
Just because a person is not purchasing it doesn't mean they don't have an interest in it.
Just because a person is not purchasing it doesn't mean they don't have an interest in it.
Omega X
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I'll see what the "sneak peek" is like. I doubt I'll play it for very long even if I do buy it. Bigger and better games are on the way.
QFT.
AND I thought that I wouldn't go broke from gaming this year.
AND I thought that I wouldn't go broke from gaming this year.
My Green Storage
I bought WoW not more then 24 hours ago.
I just got bored of GW and needed something besides "Reach level 20. Make another Character or go for titles or Hard Mode or farm" (That and the 3,600 hours I put in-1 year)
So as Malice said, I'll check out the preview weekend (Before the GW servers crash to a hault -- Not too far fetched, eh?) before deciding on GWEN.
To be honest, the more I hear about it, the less excited I get.
Nothing I have heard has made me say "OMGZ MUST GET IT!"
I just got bored of GW and needed something besides "Reach level 20. Make another Character or go for titles or Hard Mode or farm" (That and the 3,600 hours I put in-1 year)
So as Malice said, I'll check out the preview weekend (Before the GW servers crash to a hault -- Not too far fetched, eh?) before deciding on GWEN.
To be honest, the more I hear about it, the less excited I get.
Nothing I have heard has made me say "OMGZ MUST GET IT!"
Nevin
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Ever thought some people are unsure whether they want to buy it or not, so they come on the GWEN forum to check out other peoples opinions?
Just because a person is not purchasing it doesn't mean they don't have an interest in it. Usually the people who don't want to purchase it are here to flame or criticize. You'll find them in just about every popular GW:EN thread, someone with a negative out look who just wants to cause a ruckus because for some personal reason they will not or cannot obtain GW:EN. So what do they do? Share their opinion with others who have the exact opposite outlook as them. This is from personal experiences of course, and yes I'm being single minded about this, and no what ever you have to reply to me with isn't wrong. I'm well aware that, that is a generalization, but here on Guru thats really all that everything is made up of.
Just because a person is not purchasing it doesn't mean they don't have an interest in it. Usually the people who don't want to purchase it are here to flame or criticize. You'll find them in just about every popular GW:EN thread, someone with a negative out look who just wants to cause a ruckus because for some personal reason they will not or cannot obtain GW:EN. So what do they do? Share their opinion with others who have the exact opposite outlook as them. This is from personal experiences of course, and yes I'm being single minded about this, and no what ever you have to reply to me with isn't wrong. I'm well aware that, that is a generalization, but here on Guru thats really all that everything is made up of.
White knight lord
There are a few folks going to school and going to be seniors and will get the Big Cupon that says your smart enough to pass high school (I am one of them). Even though I will be a senior and going to have a job most likely, I will definately be Getting GW:EN and won't let being a senior and job be a excuse to not buy a game. 
I really like the direction Anet went on GW and the exploreing/costomization/midevil RPGs. I am not going to push gameing aside its my hobby. On that note I will find time to play. 
P.S. I know this is a topic for "Why won't you be getting GW:EN" but closest topic I found (without starting my own) to tell folks bout my reasons and stuff...
P.S. I know this is a topic for "Why won't you be getting GW:EN" but closest topic I found (without starting my own) to tell folks bout my reasons and stuff...
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Nevin
Usually the people who don't want to purchase it are here to flame or criticize. You'll find them in just about every popular GW:EN thread, someone with a negative out look who just wants to cause a ruckus because for some personal reason they will not or cannot obtain GW:EN. So what do they do? Share their opinion with others who have the exact opposite outlook as them. This is from personal experiences of course, and yes I'm being single minded about this, and no what ever you have to reply to me with isn't wrong. I'm well aware that, that is a generalization, but here on Guru thats really all that everything is made up of.
All I'm trying to say is just because someone isn't purchasing it doesn't mean they aren't interested, and although many people may flame/critisize because they are not getting GWEN, there are still people who aren't getting it and not flaming, but coming onto this forum because they are interested.
WasAGuest
Several reasons really:
The biggest though is that I do not trust Anet anymore. From marketing spin, fuzzy math, improvements that are terrible and force fed as "better" and so on. Ugh.
The game has become miles less fun than it used to be, each and every battle feels like a poorly done bot match with Quake (the first one) like AI. HM is uncreative at best, upping mob stats is so boring to play against. bleh... Loot scaling and so on...
I could go on and on, but I'll not bother. It all comes down to Anet vs other developers at this point. I trust the others to entertain me for my money, and upon release of GWEN, there are many other games that have my eye.
I simply know I will enjoy the other games without question; yet here I am, wondering and having to research whether or not to buy GWEN... says something about my consumer trust I think.
PS: Also what Bryant Again has stated; that's just farged up. If I were to purchase the game for the tangible item, I should be able to get the so called Bonus missions just the same as everyone else... again and just another thing that shakes my confidence in Anet. Twisted and manipulative marketing. My opinion of course.
The biggest though is that I do not trust Anet anymore. From marketing spin, fuzzy math, improvements that are terrible and force fed as "better" and so on. Ugh.
The game has become miles less fun than it used to be, each and every battle feels like a poorly done bot match with Quake (the first one) like AI. HM is uncreative at best, upping mob stats is so boring to play against. bleh... Loot scaling and so on...
I could go on and on, but I'll not bother. It all comes down to Anet vs other developers at this point. I trust the others to entertain me for my money, and upon release of GWEN, there are many other games that have my eye.
I simply know I will enjoy the other games without question; yet here I am, wondering and having to research whether or not to buy GWEN... says something about my consumer trust I think.
PS: Also what Bryant Again has stated; that's just farged up. If I were to purchase the game for the tangible item, I should be able to get the so called Bonus missions just the same as everyone else... again and just another thing that shakes my confidence in Anet. Twisted and manipulative marketing. My opinion of course.
RSGashapon
To paraphrase Maddox;
For every copy of GW:EN you don't buy, I'm going to buy three.
For every copy of GW:EN you don't buy, I'm going to buy three.
Kakumei
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Also, I really can't fathom why someone who still plays, enjoys, and is interested in GW (PvE, anyway) wouldn't be excited to purchase EotN. How is a vast amount of additional content a bad thing?
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March 31, 1980 Age: 27 something's not adding up here
Bithor the Dog
Kakumei, Can you enlighten the less knowledgeable "brits" over the pond as to what you mean?
I don't understand any of the years and things of USA schooling
RSGashapon
It's highly suspicious for a person who is 27 to be a high school senior, which is the last year of high school in the US. Someone would normally be around 17-19 at that time.
arcanemacabre
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Also, I really can't fathom why someone who still plays, enjoys, and is interested in GW (PvE, anyway) wouldn't be excited to purchase EotN. How is a vast amount of additional content a bad thing? edit: wait what something's not adding up here Surely he meant to put 1990... right? If not, lol
Zinger314
What is this, "Threadjack Zinger Day?"
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Quote: Surely he meant to put 1990... right?
If not, lol Ding, ding ding. It's sad when you have to resort to age discrimination to ignore a completely valid discussion.
Neo Nugget
Well i considered not buying 2 GW:ENS.Rather save my money.
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But i want that bonus mission pack for my 2nd account.......so blech! im buying 2 lol. Quote: What is this, "Threadjack Zinger Day?"
obviously lol. Deleet
Probably because of the very strong "Time > skill" attitude displayed recently.. Also because my PvP guild died. I have no friends online ever.
Oh yeah, an alternative is comming FURY! - hope they go for non-subscription. Else I'm aiming for Starcraft 2, since I love strategy but hate the microing in Warcraft 3. Long story short. * GW changed in the wrong direction. * Lack of friends in-game. * Better alternatives.
Nevin
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Oh yeah, an alternative is comming FURY! - hope they go for non-subscription. Else I'm aiming for Starcraft 2, since I love strategy but hate the microing in Warcraft 3. Long story short. * GW changed in the wrong direction. * Lack of friends in-game. * Better alternatives. |
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What is this, "Threadjack Zinger Day?"
Ding, ding ding. It's sad when you have to resort to age discrimination to ignore a completely valid discussion. They're not discriminating on your age, just wondering if... A) If you really are a senior student, or if you just made that story up for the sake of discussion. B) You put a false age, no shame, like many people do. BDZeres
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Maybe maybe not... i mean starcraft 2 is comming out and i need to practice xD
Amen brother.
Kakumei
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What is this, "Threadjack Zinger Day?"
Ding, ding ding. It's sad when you have to resort to age discrimination to ignore a completely valid discussion. Curiosity is totally age discrimination. Also, I addressed the topic in my post. Thanks for reading! Deleet
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To me, a Starcraft with Dx9/10 graphics is good enough. But most important, I can highlight more than 12 units.
Company of Heroes, never heard of it. But I read that Gamespots article focuses alot on the graphics, "Provided you have a powerful-enough system and graphics card to fully appreciate the visuals in Company of Heroes, you'll quickly be struck by the level of detail depicted in the game." My computer is terrible, I'm looking for games with bad graphics and good gameplay.
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They're not discriminating on your age, just wondering if... A) If you really are a senior student, or if you just made that story up for the sake of discussion. B) You put a false age, no shame, like many people do. Both are irrelevant, yes? Masterr
i will buy the game, but there is something that i really hate about the direction GW is going, Sunspear and Factions Title Skills, they really are ruining the game for me, and it seems gwen is all about grinding titles to make skills more powerfull, if i wanted to grind i would be playing another game. i hope i can enjoy the game withouth grinding
hobbit man
I don't see any reason to buy this game. It's all a grind without any of the accomplishment. I really, really doubt this game will be worth the money...Nightfall and Factions sure weren't worth more than $10 imo.
Anyway, I'm picking up a 360 so I can actually play some quality games...and a Wii a little later. Why play a mediocre expansion when you can play Bioshock, Metroid, Madden 08, Gears of War, Fire Emblem, Super Smash Bros, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed, Super Mario Galaxy, and Halo 3? I don't get it. neooki
I preordered the game and am very excited about this release of GW. Those of you who complain of grinding titles should realize, ANET doesn't require you to max the levels of these titles for anything special. You max or not at your own free will. I'm sure in eye of the north it will be no different. You'll naturally, if you take the bounties when you explore, will get to the decent enough level.
The grind for these titles is nothing, nothing compared to what I and many other people did in other games. In RO I grinded my lvl 93 rogue to lvl 99 took me 10 days, from 7am to 3am every single day.. I wanted to kill myself. Then I rebirthed 5x slower exp got my stalker to lvl 78 and quit. All mmos, have some sort of grind in them, whether it be level grinding, fame grinding, or building your skill level though practice. What ever it may be, theres a grind and with out it the game would be too easy to be fun. What ever your reasons are you believe them to be valid and I'm not here to contest you. Have fun with what every you do, and maybe someday you'll be back In guild wars.
Dylananimus
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i will buy the game, but there is something that i really hate about the direction GW is going, Sunspear and Factions Title Skills, they really are ruining the game for me, and it seems gwen is all about grinding titles to make skills more powerfull, if i wanted to grind i would be playing another game. i hope i can enjoy the game withouth grinding
People seem not to realise that you are not required to title grind to get through the game. They're an added feature, not a neccesity
It's not something you HAVE to do. This expansion is for people who want to delve into things a little deeper. So yes, titles are a part of that 'extra' stuff you get to have fun with and test yourself with in GW. You will be rewarded at the end of it, mainly in feeling the accomplishment of setting yourself a goal to get to and reaching it. Again...titles are NOT a required part of the game in most instances. So I think people need to get off that one, it's not actually making sense to call GW anything that resembles a grind. That's why the level cap is at 20 after all As for saying there are better games out there to play, that are around or coming out. Well, great...go play them. I see no point in people continuing to gripe about a game they clearly don't like anymore. Why don't you try moving on? It's all about opinions, and one man's opinion does not diminish anothers.
MithranArkanere
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i will buy the game, but there is something that i really hate about the direction GW is going, Sunspear and Factions Title Skills, they really are ruining the game for me, and it seems gwen is all about grinding titles to make skills more powerfull, if i wanted to grind i would be playing another game. i hope i can enjoy the game withouth grinding
Yah, I wish there could be ways to being able to increase such titles without having to stick into one area.
No matter were you are, there is only ons spot that is the most effective to increase such titles. So you have to stick there and do the same all the time... neooki
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Yah, I wish there could be ways to being able to increase such titles without having to stick into one area.
No matter were you are, there is only ons spot that is the most effective to increase such titles. So you have to stick there and do the same all the time... Theres always going to be one place that is the most effective, but no one's cracking a whip on you to make you go there. In Eye of the north there will be many different ways to increase your ranks in the titles. No matter what game you play theres always going to be that one sweet spot thats just right for leveling or for whatever your trying to do.
Darkobra
I'll definitely buy it the day it comes out. It sounds like it's got a great story. And to me, that's what a game's mainly about.
Metal Herc
I will buy it, because Tyria was my favourite part of the game. Plus the story interests me. I am worried about the way the game is headed though.
I will admit, today I got Legendary Sunspear. But it was rather easy seeing as how I could get points in that, while looking for chests/tomes. But grinding that title was enough for me. I will NOT grind a few more like that in the expansion, and if that is how you unlock a bunch of stuff I will be really dissapointed. If I wanted to grind, I would play WoW. There, when I grind I go up levels and get better gear. The whole reason I got into GW was to leave that grind. where at L20 I had the "best" weapon, which I got from a collector. |
