Where do you report a scam when ANet is doing the scamming?
captain_carter
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Originally Posted by Sue I Sidel
That is some seriously twisted logic, I am sure you would be over the moon if you went to your grocery store to buy the weeks shopping and you had to pay more for your basket just because your wage was a little higher than lazy trailer trash in front of you who was on benefit
My bad, send me your name and address and I'll post you any spare change I have, I really didn't think the US was so poor Well I think it's an acceptable argument and I think your counter-argument misses the point. Of course I would be angry if someone who has just as much chance to earn the minimum wage I earn is charged a different price, but when they are in a different country and the government tells companies that they don't have to pay them as much, I wouldn't have the same problem. I can't expect people to spend a much larger percentage of their income because their government has a different system nor can I expect them to emigrate.
I also think it's worth pointing out that I live in the UK, that I was born in the UK and have always lived in the UK, and that I do not feel scammed.
Ill also add this from an Abstract of a paper an economist wrote(http://ideas.repec.org/p/nbr/nberwo/13239.html#author):
"A substantial part of international differences in prices of individual products, both goods and services, can be explained by differences in per capita income, wage compression, or low wage dispersion among low-wage workers, and short-term exchange rate fluctuations."
which to me says my reasoning is one of the main reasons for this difference.
If I have not read deep enough into your statement, and you actually wanted to point out that it is a stupid idea for people to have equal opportunities, then there really isn't any need for me to apologise.
My bad, send me your name and address and I'll post you any spare change I have, I really didn't think the US was so poor Well I think it's an acceptable argument and I think your counter-argument misses the point. Of course I would be angry if someone who has just as much chance to earn the minimum wage I earn is charged a different price, but when they are in a different country and the government tells companies that they don't have to pay them as much, I wouldn't have the same problem. I can't expect people to spend a much larger percentage of their income because their government has a different system nor can I expect them to emigrate.
I also think it's worth pointing out that I live in the UK, that I was born in the UK and have always lived in the UK, and that I do not feel scammed.
Ill also add this from an Abstract of a paper an economist wrote(http://ideas.repec.org/p/nbr/nberwo/13239.html#author):
"A substantial part of international differences in prices of individual products, both goods and services, can be explained by differences in per capita income, wage compression, or low wage dispersion among low-wage workers, and short-term exchange rate fluctuations."
which to me says my reasoning is one of the main reasons for this difference.
If I have not read deep enough into your statement, and you actually wanted to point out that it is a stupid idea for people to have equal opportunities, then there really isn't any need for me to apologise.
Darksun
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Originally Posted by dawnmist
Nor does the 'taxes' argument apply - we certainly don't pay English taxes.
No, you pay taxes to YOUR government. You really think that when you buy something overseas that your government doesn't try to get tax money from you for that purchase? That would be pretty stupid on their part.
qazwersder
Its only a £1 difference its not going to break the bank. And everything is more expensive in the UK, its just how it works.
Voltar
We more than make up for it in our bi-monthly health insurance copays over here. I pay something like $20-something every paycheck for health insurance that gives me something lame like a $50 office visit deductable.
Plus you guys have, "Questions to the PM," which is way more fun to watch than the US Congress being lame and non-productive. I only wish I'd discovered it when Blair was PM. I bet he was hilarious to watch. Brown just makes me feel good when he doesn't stutter.
Plus you guys have, "Questions to the PM," which is way more fun to watch than the US Congress being lame and non-productive. I only wish I'd discovered it when Blair was PM. I bet he was hilarious to watch. Brown just makes me feel good when he doesn't stutter.
Here for the People
Hey Sue I Sidle.... Here is the best answer for your question (YOU ARE NOT A UNITED STATES RESIDENT THATS WHY THEY ARE CHARGING MORE, GW is smart they know americans will tear their headquarters down if they charged us more than someone from the UK or EU the thing that gets me is your Bitchin about the cost for the preorder but every bonus mini pet and free giveaway has happened out of america example: Japan Coffie shop givaways
so you should be thankful if you look at the big picture you are payin less for the bonus weekend due to the give-a-ways and outa United States contests so next time you cry about the price of the game think of this (GUILD WARS COULD HAVE SAID F THE WORLD AMERICAN GAME ONLY BUT THEY DID NOT)
so you should be thankful if you look at the big picture you are payin less for the bonus weekend due to the give-a-ways and outa United States contests so next time you cry about the price of the game think of this (GUILD WARS COULD HAVE SAID F THE WORLD AMERICAN GAME ONLY BUT THEY DID NOT)
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Here for the People
(GUILD WARS COULD HAVE SAID F THE WORLD AMERICAN GAME ONLY BUT THEY DID NOT)
Uh, well, that was a smart decision. I mean, you want to make as much money as possible. I don't have access to Anet's financial info, but I would not be surprised if South Korea was not responsible for a substantial amount of the 4 million copies sold.
Obviously, the price point in the UK has not hurt Anet, or they would lower it.
Obviously, the price point in the UK has not hurt Anet, or they would lower it.
captain_carter
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Originally Posted by Here for the People
Hey Sue I Sidle.... Here is the best answer for your question (YOU ARE NOT A UNITED STATES RESIDENT THATS WHY THEY ARE CHARGING MORE, GW is smart they know americans will tear their headquarters down if they charged us more than someone from the UK or EU the thing that gets me is your Bitchin about the cost for the preorder but every bonus mini pet and free giveaway has happened out of america example: Japan Coffie shop givaways
so you should be thankful if you look at the big picture you are payin less for the bonus weekend due to the give-a-ways and outa United States contests so next time you cry about the price of the game think of this (GUILD WARS COULD HAVE SAID F THE WORLD AMERICAN GAME ONLY BUT THEY DID NOT) erm, lol
Those net-cafe giveaways have been mostly in asia, I have heard of none in the UK.
When there have been contests in Europe, im almost certain there were similar contests in the US at the same time.
I'd actually say the US gets more than the UK with E3 and PAX etc.
Normally give-aways are where you get something free, not something you would later have to pay for when buying something else, that point is nonsense.
Yes and what a wonderful game it would be if it was US only, I'm sure A-net/NCsoft would prefer not to have all that money from the millions of gamers not resident in the USA.
And the idea of a game itself turning round to the other continents and saying anything, even if it is something which is economically stupid, is quite a scary one.
so you should be thankful if you look at the big picture you are payin less for the bonus weekend due to the give-a-ways and outa United States contests so next time you cry about the price of the game think of this (GUILD WARS COULD HAVE SAID F THE WORLD AMERICAN GAME ONLY BUT THEY DID NOT) erm, lol
Those net-cafe giveaways have been mostly in asia, I have heard of none in the UK.
When there have been contests in Europe, im almost certain there were similar contests in the US at the same time.
I'd actually say the US gets more than the UK with E3 and PAX etc.
Normally give-aways are where you get something free, not something you would later have to pay for when buying something else, that point is nonsense.
Yes and what a wonderful game it would be if it was US only, I'm sure A-net/NCsoft would prefer not to have all that money from the millions of gamers not resident in the USA.
And the idea of a game itself turning round to the other continents and saying anything, even if it is something which is economically stupid, is quite a scary one.
My Sweet Revenga
If prices were the same everywhere, we could go with a single universal currency. Unfortunately that's not how it is in real life. Can't say I'm all that surprised.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga
If prices were the same everywhere, we could go with a single universal currency. Unfortunately that's not how it is in real life. Can't say I'm all that surprised.
I nominate Ectos as official currancy of the world (gold is too unstable) 
Zorgy
No you are wrong and late !!!!!!!!!!!
ARMBRACE of TRUTH has been officialy nominated worldwide currency
ARMBRACE of TRUTH has been officialy nominated worldwide currency
dawnmist
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Originally Posted by Darksun
Further, for overseas purchases the Government charges us direct, and only if the total tax + duty would be more than $50 Australian. At 10%, that'd be a purchase of somewhere around US$450. They ignore purchases lower than that, because the cost of doing the paperwork is more than they would actually get back.
We have to pay (the bank/CC company) to convert local currency to these foreign currencies, and then ArenaNet have to pay again to re-convert the currency to US$.
There is no reason I can see for why Australia (and NewZealand) are charged Brittish prices when none of the options reflect anything to do with local currency or economic conditions. We earn significantly less than those in England - are more comparable to the US, and yet given 3 options for pricing ANet have chosen the highest possible price.
Why? No reason for it other than that they can make more profit from doing so.
Not going to stop me from purchasing the game - I love GW, and think it deserves supporting - but I'm also not happy about the fact that we're paying an artificially increased price for no reason. All the economic arguments for England vs US cost of living are meaningless for Australia, all currency options are foreign currencies, so why not charge us directly in the currency that ANet actually use - so that currencies are only converted once?
Javeron
Where do you report a whine when Member is doing the whining?
(Sorry, just had to. *Disappears again*)
(Sorry, just had to. *Disappears again*)
AngeloM3
Wish I had power of the mods to close this damn thread....
Why do people feel the need to make threads about stuff that already has 2 or 3 threads on it.
Why do people feel the need to make threads about stuff that already has 2 or 3 threads on it.
Vlatro
It all boils down to basic economics. There are taxes involved when importing and exporting anything into Europe. Then consider the VAT (Value Added Tax) which clearly applies to this. Americans don't have that tax. AreaNet could conceivably lower their profit margins on sales to that area (as many developers do in areas like China and Korea), however it would only result in Americans complaining that AreaNet is willing to take less money form Europeans than Americans, so it would still be unfair. Equalizing the price solves nothing from a PR perspective.
Now lets consider hypothetically:
AreaNet lowers their price to European vendors, to cushion the blow imposed by the taxes. Many people (especially in the UK, France and Germany) enjoy varying levels of tax exemption that would enable them to buy access keys in bulk at prices lower than it would cost everyone else. They would simply undercut the actual prices here in the US and drive the value down. After all, customs agents can't check imports you receive via e-mail.
The only viable solution at that point would be to offer different access codes to various parts of the world. Your location would have to then be authenticated, (easily spoofed), and that leaves them wide open for lawsuits. It's a no win situation. You'll find the same problems with any "entertainment commodities" imported to most of the EU.
So to the Germans I say:
"You started WWII and lost. Suck it up, you've cost us Americans billions, now pay some back to our game devs".
To the French I say:
"You live in a socialist country where the government provides services unheard of in the US. That costs money, TAX MONEY. pay it and shut up, you socialist douche-bags".
And to the English:
"You guys have always over taxed everything, that's why we revolted and formed this country. We know how much it sucks, but until you're willing to take up arms against your government... wait, why haven't you already?"
Oh yeah, Australians:
"Sorry, you guys are cool but you're a smaller market and often ignored. Victims of capitalism. But if it makes you feel any better, you're country makes some awesome wines and beers, and you get us back with those taxes. US$3.00 minimum for most of your beers! Each! I don't know how much you guys pay, but damn... you only have to buy the game once. I have to buy 8-10 beers every Friday. Who's the profiteering, opportunistic country now?!"
AreaNet is making exactly the same amount of profit on each copy. The fact that some people pay more in different countries is the fault of the country they live in. So now you have to make a decision: is what you're buying worth the money people are asking for it? If "Yes", then buy it. If "No" then don't. Its the same dilemma facing every consumer ever, since the beginning of time.
As mentioned above, there are many other sources for the game who offer it at a lower price. You have to spend more to get it through AreaNet's online shop because their tax liability is higher being based outside of Europe. You can always buy it cheaper somewhere else. If the price difference is still to much for you, remember you'll get the bonus mission pack for buying through the in-game store. You pay more, and you get more for your money.
Now lets consider hypothetically:
AreaNet lowers their price to European vendors, to cushion the blow imposed by the taxes. Many people (especially in the UK, France and Germany) enjoy varying levels of tax exemption that would enable them to buy access keys in bulk at prices lower than it would cost everyone else. They would simply undercut the actual prices here in the US and drive the value down. After all, customs agents can't check imports you receive via e-mail.
The only viable solution at that point would be to offer different access codes to various parts of the world. Your location would have to then be authenticated, (easily spoofed), and that leaves them wide open for lawsuits. It's a no win situation. You'll find the same problems with any "entertainment commodities" imported to most of the EU.
So to the Germans I say:
"You started WWII and lost. Suck it up, you've cost us Americans billions, now pay some back to our game devs".
To the French I say:
"You live in a socialist country where the government provides services unheard of in the US. That costs money, TAX MONEY. pay it and shut up, you socialist douche-bags".
And to the English:
"You guys have always over taxed everything, that's why we revolted and formed this country. We know how much it sucks, but until you're willing to take up arms against your government... wait, why haven't you already?"
Oh yeah, Australians:
"Sorry, you guys are cool but you're a smaller market and often ignored. Victims of capitalism. But if it makes you feel any better, you're country makes some awesome wines and beers, and you get us back with those taxes. US$3.00 minimum for most of your beers! Each! I don't know how much you guys pay, but damn... you only have to buy the game once. I have to buy 8-10 beers every Friday. Who's the profiteering, opportunistic country now?!"
AreaNet is making exactly the same amount of profit on each copy. The fact that some people pay more in different countries is the fault of the country they live in. So now you have to make a decision: is what you're buying worth the money people are asking for it? If "Yes", then buy it. If "No" then don't. Its the same dilemma facing every consumer ever, since the beginning of time.
As mentioned above, there are many other sources for the game who offer it at a lower price. You have to spend more to get it through AreaNet's online shop because their tax liability is higher being based outside of Europe. You can always buy it cheaper somewhere else. If the price difference is still to much for you, remember you'll get the bonus mission pack for buying through the in-game store. You pay more, and you get more for your money.
ockwell
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Originally Posted by AngeloM3
Wish I had power of the mods to close this damn thread....
Why do people feel the need to make threads about stuff that already has 2 or 3 threads on it. Agree.
OP, report to blizzard
Why do people feel the need to make threads about stuff that already has 2 or 3 threads on it. Agree.
OP, report to blizzard
X Ice Man X
We always have and proberly will always get charged more over in the UK for everywhere else?
I don't know why this shocks anybody any more. It's the way things are.
However if you don't want to pay more for the game, then buy your self a plane ticket, fly to the US, buy the game there and then fly back.
You'll get the game cheaper but something tells me you might be slightly more out of pocket than just buying the game from a stop in the UK.
It's the way of the world, no amount of crying, bitching, yelling, shouting will change it. We just have to accept it.
I don't know why this shocks anybody any more. It's the way things are.
However if you don't want to pay more for the game, then buy your self a plane ticket, fly to the US, buy the game there and then fly back.
You'll get the game cheaper but something tells me you might be slightly more out of pocket than just buying the game from a stop in the UK.
It's the way of the world, no amount of crying, bitching, yelling, shouting will change it. We just have to accept it.
X Ice Man X
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Originally Posted by Vlatro
AreaNet is making exactly the same amount of profit on each copy.
You are amazingly stupid
VAT 17.5% in the UK
Costs
US $4.99
EU $6.80
UK $7.02
So lets do the maths
17.5% of $4.99 is $0.87325
$4.99 + 0.87325 = $5.86 or $5.87
Hmmm does anybody else notice the difference between $7.02 and $5.87?
Could that possibly be more profit for ANet? I think it is... They charge more not because they have no choice, but because they can, because everybody charges more over here. End of
VAT 17.5% in the UK
Costs
US $4.99
EU $6.80
UK $7.02
So lets do the maths
17.5% of $4.99 is $0.87325
$4.99 + 0.87325 = $5.86 or $5.87
Hmmm does anybody else notice the difference between $7.02 and $5.87?
Could that possibly be more profit for ANet? I think it is... They charge more not because they have no choice, but because they can, because everybody charges more over here. End of
Tijger
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Uh, well, that was a smart decision. I mean, you want to make as much money as possible. I don't have access to Anet's financial info, but I would not be surprised if South Korea was not responsible for a substantial amount of the 4 million copies sold.
Obviously, the price point in the UK has not hurt Anet, or they would lower it. Korea? I think you're look at the wrong continent. See how many German districts there were during the Dragon Festival? They far outnumbered the Common and the French districts easily equaled the Common numbers.
GW has long ceased to be an American game, the old favor system exemplified the difference in numbers between the US and the EU.
Obviously, the price point in the UK has not hurt Anet, or they would lower it. Korea? I think you're look at the wrong continent. See how many German districts there were during the Dragon Festival? They far outnumbered the Common and the French districts easily equaled the Common numbers.
GW has long ceased to be an American game, the old favor system exemplified the difference in numbers between the US and the EU.
Tijger
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Originally Posted by X Ice Man X
Could that possibly be more profit for ANet? I think it is... They charge more not because they have no choice, but because they can, because everybody charges more over here. End of You're forgetting the costs the credit card companies charge and the cost for Anet to to have their euro's exchanged for dollars. Plus you are forgetting that the taxation is not limited to VAT but that there's also customs charges for any item not originating in the EU.
So before you go calling people stupid I'd advise you to get a hold of some facts next time instead of focusing on one simple aspect.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Tijger
Korea? I think you're look at the wrong continent. See how many German districts there were during the Dragon Festival? They far outnumbered the Common and the French districts easily equaled the Common numbers.
GW has long ceased to be an American game, the old favor system exemplified the difference in numbers between the US and the EU. Thanks, you just reinforced my point: The price in Euros is NOT killing GW.
GW has long ceased to be an American game, the old favor system exemplified the difference in numbers between the US and the EU. Thanks, you just reinforced my point: The price in Euros is NOT killing GW.
Loviatar
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Quote:GW has long ceased to be an American game, the old favor system exemplified the difference in numbers between the US and the EU. what is more important really?
the number of German districts during a festival?
who holds favor?
or who supports them with sales?
remember it was a German server problem?......hummm.....maybe they were making up for the fact they were cut out the first time?
here are the numbers that count as europe has always seemed to have an ego problem.
from the NCsoft latest quarterly financial statement.
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The problem for us down here in Austraila and NZ is that we are taxed at a different rate to Europe (12.5% GST in NZ) and our governments don't care about purchases as small as the guild wars purchases are. But we have no choice but to pay the European tax for a product that can be imported directly from the US which is both where it is produced and where the servers we use are located.|
By region, the percentage breakdown of sales for the second quarter shows 59% in Korea (US$ 52.5 million), and 41% from overseas entities and royalty income: US$13.9 million in North America, US$4.9 million in Europe, US$8.3 million in Japan, US$2.5 million in Taiwan, and royalty income of US$3.9 million.
lets see now US$13.9 million in North America US$4.9 million in Europe yes europe is really showing GW is europe territory where it counts which is in sales sure
Vlatro
[QUOTE=X Ice Man X]
VAT 17.5% in the UK .../QUOTE] Point taken, but you are also forgetting about import/export tariffs (which in the UK also apply to "virtual commodities"), licensing fees, taxes imposed on distributors, taxes imposed on retailers etc. If they undercut the prices of traditional brick & mortar stores, few distributors would carry the product. I offered up VAT tax as an example simply because it's one most people outside of the UK are familiar with. I never intended to imply that there was only one tax in play. Even here in the US we have taxes on our taxes, so I don't imagine you're much better off. We can also assume that AreaNet IS taking more money. While the profits are the same, the cost of doing business in that area of the world is much higher, even with internet sales. I sell to European customers every day. I object as much as you do. These taxes hurt my business. AreaNet is in the same position. Just consider this: AreaNet is providing you with a service at a fixed price. No one is forcing you to use the service or buy their products. I hope, as I'm sure they do, that you will continue to use that service. You claim that the pricing is unfair and I agree, but life is unfair. It would be ignorant to assume that greed is the underlying cause of this issue. If you honestly believe that it is all a matter of greed, you can choose not to support it by not buying the product. While I would disagree with your reasoning, at least then I could respect your chosen course of action. If I were in your position, I wouldn't deprive my self the entertainment value of their games, just so I could stand on principal over a difference in price that amounts to less money than most impoverished people have buried in their couch cushions. But that's just me. I mean come on, we're talking about less than the cost of 3 First class stamps here.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
from the NCsoft latest quarterly financial statement. lets see now US$13.9 million in North America US$4.9 million in Europe yes europe is really showing GW is europe territory where it counts which is in sales sure Lov, can you provide a link for that? Thanks! Sue I Sidel
The recipient of a shipment is the importer of record in the destination country and is responsible for all Import Fees, NOT the seller
Nevin
I believe its because, Europe and UK aren't as big of a market for anet. So for them to give Europe/UK the same amount of attention they give to the US, they need to charge extra to compensate for the lack of popularity.
Simple example: 100 US players, each pay 1 dollar 75 UK players, each will have to pay 1.35 There are less players out there, and less inflation as well. In my opinion Anet is simply making money where they can. But the logical reason would be that they're just funding their support for those areas, ever hear of the prices for GW games in Australia? They're outlandish, I heard that GW:EN would cost 55 USD in Australia apparently.
Hyper.nl
When ANet is scamming, you can report it to police.
But this is not scamming but bad pricing policy. And I think it should be changed.
Shakkara
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
US$13.9 million in North America US$4.9 million in Europe yes europe is really showing GW is europe territory where it counts which is in sales sure Thats total sales, not just guildwars sales. In Europe, the other games besides guildwars simply arent that popular. So your data is not proving anything. X Ice Man X
Thats in the 2nd quater? Of What year?
What about the other Quaters? Are you talking recent sales in this year? Or old sales? Your data in incomplete. If we assume that it is the 2nd quater of this year. Then that just means that more americans are buying the game now. It doesn't mean that more Americans have the game... The fact that less Europeans are buying the game suggests that most of us already have it? But if we follow you logic and say there are 3 times as many American players as there were European why did you not have favor more on the old system? Surely with the more players you should have, simply by numbers of people in HA. Next time there is a special event somewhere count the number of American districts. The Common, French and German all reach over 60-70 Districts on the large events. So do the American servers get over 200 Districts? If not then I think you assume there is a larger European Market.
AW Lore
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Originally Posted by X Ice Man X
Thats in the 2nd quater? Of What year?
What about the other Quaters? Are you talking recent sales in this year? Or old sales? Your data in incomplete. If we assume that it is the 2nd quater of this year. Then that just means that more americans are buying the game now. It doesn't mean that more Americans have the game... The fact that less Europeans are buying the game suggests that most of us already have it? But if we follow you logic and say there are 3 times as many American players as there were European why did you not have favor more on the old system? Surely with the more players you should have, simply by numbers of people in HA. Next time there is a special event somewhere count the number of American districts. The Common, French and German all reach over 60-70 Districts on the large events. So do the American servers get over 200 Districts? If not then I think you assume there is a larger European Market. there was a time, where the roles where inversed, and america had favor more often than europe, europe players would come here "whine" about it. now the roles got inversed and europe got favor most of the times and american players began to whine about it. regarding the event districts i have seen anywhere from 70 to 100 american districts, on one of the first shing jea dragon events i think i even saw 170 districts.
Nuclfus
Think it's unfair? Well if you want to vent your frustration and really just have something to blame without any constructive intentions, whine to Anet. If you want to try and influence the issue and help resolve the problem, whine to your government.
captain_carter
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Originally Posted by Nuclfus
Think it's unfair? Well if you want to vent your frustration and really just have something to blame without any constructive intentions, whine to Anet. If you want to try and influence the issue and help resolve the problem, whine to your government.
unfortunately that would be an even bigger waste of time
oracleofwoe
you think this is bad? How about this...
Price of standard petrol in a Shell garage this morning in Washington D.C $2.69 a gallon. Price of standard petrol in a Shell garage this morning in Washington Tyne and Wear, England 91p a LITRE. that works out under current exchange as $6.87 a gallon. Now THATS unfair Loviatar
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Quote:you think this is bad? How about this...
Price of standard petrol in a Shell garage this morning in Washington D.C $2.69 a gallon. Price of standard petrol in a Shell garage this morning in Washington Tyne and Wear, England 91p a LITRE. that works out under current exchange as $6.87 a gallon. Now THATS unfair it got between 8-14 MPG depending on how hard i jumped on it 2 four barrel carbs do get thirsty but i was paying 35 cents a gallon for hi test back then
X Ice Man X
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Originally Posted by AW Lore
there was a time, where the roles where inversed, and america had favor more often than europe, europe players would come here "whine" about it. now the roles got inversed and europe got favor most of the times and american players began to whine about it.
regarding the event districts i have seen anywhere from 70 to 100 american districts, on one of the first shing jea dragon events i think i even saw 170 districts. If there is more Americans then fair enough. I was asking. I don't know whats the most European Districts there has been in total.
captain_carter
Can we really use the number of districts during festivals as a reliable measure? There's always a lot of International districts which I expect lots of players from both continents go to.
bilateralrope
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Originally Posted by oracleofwoe
you think this is bad? How about this...
Price of standard petrol in a Shell garage this morning in Washington D.C $2.69 a gallon. Price of standard petrol in a Shell garage this morning in Washington Tyne and Wear, England 91p a LITRE. that works out under current exchange as $6.87 a gallon. Now THATS unfair Since we will be downloading the GW:EN content even if we don't buy it, I'll be ignoring the cost of that data transfer. So the only cost involved is changing a few pieces of data on your account, which is residing on their servers. So maybe a difference of a few cents depending on where the server that handles your account and the server that handles the purchase are. Another question, has anyone tried lying about their address to see if that allows them to be charged in $US ?
Drag0noX
I have a few words for the guy who started this thread
1. TAXES 2. CONVERSIONS 3. LOCATIONS 1. Some countries include taxes, others dont E.g. Australian prices have tax included, Canadian, American and British Don't 2. Countries have different currencies, see For example Australia=Aud Britain=Pounds the conversion rates are different i think its something like .6 pounds to the australian dollar 3. The closer you are to where the product is made, the cheaper it will be for example I went to malaysia, and i needed headphones for my sony ericsson k610i They were 140 ringgit, which is about $46 australian in australia, they were $60 It all depends where you are and where the product is made headphones=made in china malaysia=close to china=lower prices they turned out to be crap, but that's beside the point
Drag0noX
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Originally Posted by oracleofwoe
you think this is bad? How about this...
Price of standard petrol in a Shell garage this morning in Washington D.C $2.69 a gallon. Price of standard petrol in a Shell garage this morning in Washington Tyne and Wear, England 91p a LITRE. that works out under current exchange as $6.87 a gallon. Now THATS unfair the london underground is excellent, trains are always on time
bilateralrope
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Originally Posted by Drag0noX
1. TAXES 2. CONVERSIONS 3. LOCATIONS 1. Some countries include taxes, others dont E.g. Australian prices have tax included, Canadian, American and British Don't |
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For example
Australia=Aud Britain=Pounds
the conversion rates are different
i think its something like .6 pounds to the australian dollar And here I thought that the OP did take exchange rates into account. Anyway using my banks exchange rate calculator here are the prices I'd have to pay for any pvp edition based on current exchange rates :
Currency I pay in (price in that currency) | Amount I pay in $NZ
Euro (35.99) | $65.89
$US (39.99) | $54.95
British pounds (23.29) | $63.43
So paying in euros is approximately 20% more expensive for me than paying in $US. Sure its not much when we are just talking about one item, but when we start talking about buying other things (eg. extra character slots) it adds up.
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3. The closer you are to where the product is made, the cheaper it will be
We are talking about goods that are simply data. All ANET does is change a few pieces of data on our account and the data we need on our computers is downloaded directly. And we can ignore the cost of downloading the GW:EN specific client side data because the download occurs before you reach the login screen it must decide which server to grab the data from based on your IP address, not the currency you paid them in. So the only cost difference between paying in $US and euros here is the cost of communication between the server that handles the transaction and the server where my account is stored. This is assuming that either the servers for account storage and transactions are either on the same LAN if they are on the same continent (so they don't need the internet to talk to each other) or that ANET gets charged more for international traffic than national traffic. This is also assuming that they have multiple transaction servers and that my account is closest to the one which handles transactions in euros (but my account is on the American servers). But even if those assumptions hold up we are still talking at less than one cent per account.
OlMurraniKasale
Dear lord, let this thing die off already. It's a game. Pay the buck fifty and play or go to 9Dragons or something. Sheesh.
Oh wait, my posting made it bump up again. Damn! |
