Miniature Mallyx in Pre-Searing - Another Glitch or Not ? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

15 Aug 2007 at 02:06 - 161

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Velma is useless. I don't know what's in those Scooby Snacks, but she's talking in iambic pentameter.

It turns out this is probably related to a small bug that was fixed a while ago. Not the "leave guild hall" thing, but a glitch that we believe was corrected a few weeks back. (You can see the reference in the Update Notes I believe.) We're looking into the matter to make sure all possible aspects of this are closed, but we do believe they. I may have more info tomorrow.

No major glitch.
No dupes.
No rollback.
Pass the cookie tray, please.

any word on if the post items brought to pre will be removed?

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

15 Aug 2007 at 02:09 - 162

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceylon Tea Cat

Wy so many ppl like to drag bugs out and gain benefit on them?
the Armbraces first ........and now they can go into there Guild Hall in pre-searing...

Anet must say " THEY HAD NOTICED IT LONG TIME AGO" again.
They sensed Bugs, They sensed illleagle player.....AND DID NOTHING.

I lost my confidence in Anet..
I lost my confidence in GW

Woh there fella. Calm down. High end mini pets in presearing; its not the end of the world, nor does it affect you in any way, shape or form. As long as we don't revert to the old Presear bug, we will be just fine...

The Armbrace duping, yes, is a serious issue, but bugs happen, greedy people find loopholes/exploits. Happens all the time all around the world with ANYthing. Anet is working on it, made obvious by the discontinuation of reconnects. AND...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Velma is useless. I don't know what's in those Scooby Snacks, but she's talking in iambic pentameter.

It turns out this is probably related to a small bug that was fixed a while ago. Not the "leave guild hall" thing, but a glitch that we believe was corrected a few weeks back. (You can see the reference in the Update Notes I believe.) We're looking into the matter to make sure all possible aspects of this are closed, but we do believe they. I may have more info tomorrow.

No major glitch.
No dupes.
No rollback.
Pass the cookie tray, please.

Thanks for reassuring us Gaile! Despite this being a backseat glitch, its nice to see that even this small matter is being taken care of. Btw, your last lines of "No mjor glitch, No dupes, No rollback" is a wittle bit dangerous!

I just might have to quote you to all the non-beleivers! LOL!

Oh ya, and i'll be taking that whole cookie tray, thank YOU!
cheers.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

15 Aug 2007 at 02:15 - 163

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enko

any word on if the post items brought to pre will be removed?

They werent during the actual GH trick 2 a while back, so i doubt it will be this time.....although i could stand to see tomes removed......i dont care about a mini mallyx as much as the tomes.

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

15 Aug 2007 at 02:26 - 164

Wow interesting thread and lots of speculation on how it was done
I have a perma pre char and never seen this mini.

They say things come in threes I wonder what the 3rd thing this week
is gonna be

No offense but I thought Gaile knew all about GW even without her first

So close to Eye of the north why NOW?

Karlos

Master of Mallyx

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]

E/Me

15 Aug 2007 at 02:27 - 165

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Velma is useless. I don't know what's in those Scooby Snacks, but she's talking in iambic pentameter.

It turns out this is probably related to a small bug that was fixed a while ago. Not the "leave guild hall" thing, but a glitch that we believe was corrected a few weeks back. (You can see the reference in the Update Notes I believe.) We're looking into the matter to make sure all possible aspects of this are closed, but we do believe they. I may have more info tomorrow.

No major glitch.
No dupes.
No rollback.
Pass the cookie tray, please.

Good work, Gadget! I don't know how you do it! :P

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

15 Aug 2007 at 02:28 - 166

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

They werent during the actual GH trick 2 a while back, so i doubt it will be this time.....although i could stand to see tomes removed......i dont care about a mini mallyx as much as the tomes.

i'm more worried about the tomes than the mallyx. but if they can figure out how to remove one item, might as well go the whole ten yards.

Theosebes

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

15 Aug 2007 at 02:35 - 167

The tomes are for sure the bigger issue, the mini was just a more visible symptom. There are lots of us who would like a legit way to get LDoA and Survivor on the same character, but right now, only dishonest players have a chance to get it

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

15 Aug 2007 at 02:43 - 168

Just got an update when I logged in. Wonder if it had something to do with this issue.

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

15 Aug 2007 at 03:26 - 169

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theosebes

There are lots of us who would like a legit way to get LDoA and Survivor on the same character,

If that were possible, wouldn't it be unfair to Canthans and Elonians?

Elbereth_Tiniquetil

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Adelaide, Australia

Holy Champions of Justice

N/Mo

15 Aug 2007 at 03:49 - 170

lot of people in the AM pre have a lot of gold, many have have been here for the last 2 years and have had time to make up that kind of gold via selling ale, black dye, charrbags and charr salvage kits. Presearing has a huge market for minipets, as a lot of people are coming back and want them now.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

15 Aug 2007 at 03:51 - 171

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

If that were possible, wouldn't it be unfair to Canthans and Elonians?

I'm guessing you mean people that don't have prophecies and only have one or the other. I'm sure there are lots of people with LDoA that have Canthans and Elonians. Canthabns and Elonians are toons so there's no such thing as fair or unfair for them. If people want the title, they can just buy the campaign. There's nothing really unfair there.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 Aug 2007 at 04:15 - 172

Wha-wha-what? No third-party programs? All safe? Arcane's old avatar? This is all good news!

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

15 Aug 2007 at 05:34 - 173

Whenever I see that avatar of Arcane's I picture Arcane looks just like that sitting at the keyboard.
It's creeping me out everyone! D:

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 Aug 2007 at 05:46 - 174

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

Whenever I see that avatar of Arcane's I picture Arcane looks just like that sitting at the keyboard.
It's creeping me out everyone! D:

AAAAAH!

What happened to angry baby!?

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

15 Aug 2007 at 05:48 - 175

Should angry baby go back?
I saw a funny baby monkey and thought it was time for a change.
I already miss angry baby.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

15 Aug 2007 at 06:17 - 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Wha-wha-what? No third-party programs? All safe? Arcane's old avatar? This is all good news!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

Whenever I see that avatar of Arcane's I picture Arcane looks just like that sitting at the keyboard.
It's creeping me out everyone! D:

Wow, had no idea ol' berries and cream was so popular!

I guess I'm forever branded with that creepy guy. LOL, fine with me! And yes, sometimes I do look like that when I post. Except without the frills. And the hair. And the face. But otherwise, yep, spitting image :P

Anyway, OT, the tomes is what I'm most concerned about, too. Max weapons are easy to get through the GoTY package (and preorders), minipets offer no advantage, runes/insignias/mods can now be salvaged, all that's left is skills - which is more important and useful than equipment, anyway. All instances of skill tomes should be removed from Pre, and all skills that can't be attained in Pre should be removed from the skillbars of those still in Pre (perhaps just made unavailable through a lock like PvE-only skills in PvP, until they go post).

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

15 Aug 2007 at 06:45 - 177

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pkest

This is NOT a texture mod. Texmod can't add functional buttons where they don't belong. This is a hack to the gw.exe file.

It's extremely unlikely that it's an exe hack. If you read something about the functioning of Guild Wars thant you would know that all intelligent actions are done at the server side. The client just passes through your mouse clicks to the server where they are performed. The server overrules the client.

But this does not make a pre-searing glitch impossible. As suggested someone may have left a character in the guild hall from the old GuildHall access glitch, or there may be a new, unknown glitch like we saw with the possibility of item duplication.

Puddingbroodje

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Lovers of Whiskey and Women [LWW]

E/Mo

15 Aug 2007 at 07:20 - 178

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLordOfBlah

Someone isnt understanding the point of the thread AT ALL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

...Or they simply didn't know how those mini-pets were acquired. Be considerate.

indeed, i didn't know those codes also work in pre-searing.
i haven't been in pre sinds i bought prophecies and thats 1,5 year ago..
but know i think about it, the bonus items work also in pre..
consider my post as not mentioned.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 Aug 2007 at 07:24 - 179

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

Should angry baby go back?
I saw a funny baby monkey and thought it was time for a change.
I already miss angry baby.

GET TO DEH CHOPPAH

I missed angry baby too...

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Anyway, OT, the tomes is what I'm most concerned about, too. Max weapons are easy to get through the GoTY package (and preorders), minipets offer no advantage, runes/insignias/mods can now be salvaged, all that's left is skills - which is more important and useful than equipment, anyway. All instances of skill tomes should be removed from Pre, and all skills that can't be attained in Pre should be removed from the skillbars of those still in Pre (perhaps just made unavailable through a lock like PvE-only skills in PvP, until they go post).

55in char, anyone? In other words, agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puddingbroodje

indeed, i didn't know those codes also work in pre-searing.
i haven't been in pre sinds i bought prophecies and thats 1,5 year ago..
but know i think about it, the bonus items work also in pre..
consider my post as not mentioned.

Meh it's np, we all make mistakes from time to time.

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

15 Aug 2007 at 07:59 - 180

i truly believe tomes i pre should be deleted. or event better. all non-presearing skills should be LOCKED so that even if someone used a tome or elite tome, that skill acquired is not not usable

Kurald Galain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fishermans Haven

[DVDF]

Mo/

15 Aug 2007 at 11:21 - 181

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

If that were possible, wouldn't it be unfair to Canthans and Elonians?

Wouldnt be more unfair than any other chapter only title to those who dont have the particular chapter.

So in my opinion theres two ways to "fix" this:

a) Remove all items that allow you to gain both titles on one char in a dishonest way (tomes, XP scrolls and alike)

b) add a legit way to attain both titles on one character

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

15 Aug 2007 at 14:08 - 182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper.nl

It's extremely unlikely that it's an exe hack. If you read something about the functioning of Guild Wars thant you would know that all intelligent actions are done at the server side. The client just passes through your mouse clicks to the server where they are performed. The server overrules the client.

But this does not make a pre-searing glitch impossible. As suggested someone may have left a character in the guild hall from the old GuildHall access glitch, or there may be a new, unknown glitch like we saw with the possibility of item duplication.

The exe hack has been reported for over a week now by several different people. It works client side because it is just enabling a button that apparently isn't checked correctly server side for pre characters. But Anet says 'no it's something we already fixed'.

I will wait and watch.

I think they should announce that ldoa+survivor will get banned and that would put an end to this. Or make a legitimate way to get both.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

15 Aug 2007 at 14:15 - 183

Well if adding Higher lvl monsters to an area, wouldnt that make it possible to get LDoA and survivor?Plus no dlvling

Chieftain Heavyhand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

wpg

15 Aug 2007 at 14:46 - 184

It would be nice to have a way to reach LDoA with out Death leveling.

A gate to an unused area/areas that has level 15 critters or lvl 20 critters that is only accessible if the character is lvl 13, add a quest/quests to gain access to this area/areas or something.

While I'm at it could there also be an option to go strait to GW:EN after achieving LDoA.

Rehnahvah Gahro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Underground

Rt/R

15 Aug 2007 at 15:41 - 185

If Anet would implement a legit way to get both titles then LDoA would have no meaning anymore. It was ment for those who stayed long in PreSear and was kind of a gift to all those PreSear-fanatics. Since the title was available most people started a PreSear Char JUST for getting that title.

In my opinion it would not make any sense to implement an area with higher Lvl foes in Pre. The title would make no sense at all then..

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

15 Aug 2007 at 15:56 - 186

I've been reading this thread, and the one on GWO, and I thought I'd clear this up for anyone who thinks otherwise. TexMod cannot make a button to go to the guild hall. Yes Anet disabled it, but that does not mean that it's still there, but hidden. It's disabled in the code...which means you have to hack the code to enable it. Not use a texture modding program. Please don't post stupid theories any more.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

15 Aug 2007 at 16:06 - 187

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Please don't post stupid theories any more.

Thats like telling a Wamo not to use mending

Karlos

Master of Mallyx

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]

E/Me

18 Aug 2007 at 09:00 - 188

As a follow up to this thread. There was an exploit and it's being fixed and offenders are being banned:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gaile...17_August_2007

Good work, Eric.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

18 Aug 2007 at 09:05 - 189

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlos

As a follow up to this thread. There was an exploit and it's being fixed and offenders are being banned:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gaile...17_August_2007

Good work, Eric.

Awesome. Thanks for the info, Karlos!

Drop of Fear

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

18 Aug 2007 at 09:09 - 190

just a very simple suggestions. LOCK non-presearing skills so that noone in pre can still use those even if he bought a tome.

this should be really easy to do. please

pretty please

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

18 Aug 2007 at 12:18 - 191

Nice to hear something on the "hacking" of GW and the issue of items appearing in pre-sear that are not supposed to be there.

Just one question though, not a conspiracy theory or "ohnoes" worrisome question...

Could this hacking have caused SOME (not all) of the lag?
I understand it would have to be ALOT of players, but even with these players messing around with the code for their own advantages, could it have caused errors on GW server side which result in SOME lag?

Just curious.

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

18 Aug 2007 at 13:09 - 192

Glad they got to the bottom of it! I think anyone who paid through the nose for a monk tome and now has a hard res on their bar pretty much knew what they were doing and deserves a ban.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

18 Aug 2007 at 18:16 - 193

In honor of all those people saying texmod had something to do with this, I checked it out, and now I can say:

OMG! OMG! OMG! You do it with teh texmod!!!
Here's proooof!
Rurik's back takes yooo to teh guild hallz!!!!

Download Link: RuriksBackside.tpf

[Explanation of sarcasm for the extremely dimwitted: Of course the button doesn't work. This is just a demonstration of how silly the idea that sticking a drawing of a button somewhere makes a functional button really is. Texmod can't add functionality. Period. Friggin Idgits.]

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

18 Aug 2007 at 19:33 - 194

wow........yet more hacks making it into the game.......so it wasn't the old travel to gh bug, but a new hack

and so we descend down the slippery slope

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

18 Aug 2007 at 19:43 - 195

hmmmmm, weird how dupes and hacks are being found before GW:EN. lol how convenient for anet:P

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

18 Aug 2007 at 21:32 - 196

Usually I don't react like this.. but one more bug like this from now to the 31st and I am definetly not buying GWEN...

Why would I buy a game that is becoming more broken everyday.. its not only anets fault.. anet shares the blame with idiots who have been joining the once excellent GW community. Nowadays there are tons of n00bs, hackers, gold sellers, gold buyers, flat out ass*****, scammers, etc etc

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

18 Aug 2007 at 22:38 - 197

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molock

Usually I don't react like this.. but one more bug like this from now to the 31st and I am definetly not buying GWEN...

Why would I buy a game that is becoming more broken everyday.. its not only anets fault.. anet shares the blame with idiots who have been joining the once excellent GW community. Nowadays there are tons of n00bs, hackers, gold sellers, gold buyers, flat out ass*****, scammers, etc etc

Actually, the game is becoming more secure everyday. Yes there have been two recent hacks that snuck in due to some lax quality control on Anet's side. Perhaps the 'new game every six months' thing was taking its toll. All in all, Anet has done a tremendous job keeping this game as free of exploits as they have. This recent hurdle will no doubt serve as a wake up call to the entire dev team causing even more vigilance in the future.

Karlos

Master of Mallyx

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]

E/Me

19 Aug 2007 at 00:57 - 198

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

hmmmmm, weird how dupes and hacks are being found before GW:EN. lol how convenient for anet:P

Game has been out for 2+ years and with surprisingly very few hacks... that it took malicious people 2+ years to finally produce a serious break (the duping bug) is actually admirable.

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

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19 Aug 2007 at 05:05 - 199

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlos

Game has been out for 2+ years and with surprisingly very few hacks... that it took malicious people 2+ years to finally produce a serious break (the duping bug) is actually admirable.

You dont get on the net much huh.

The duping is 2 months+ old since the reconnect feature was added. And theres been lots of hacks before that.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

19 Aug 2007 at 06:26 - 200

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

...although i could stand to see tomes removed......

And you have. And you shall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enko

i'm more worried about the tomes than the mallyx. but if they can figure out how to remove one item, might as well go the whole ten yards.

We're not really too worried about the Miniatures. They have zero effect on the gameplay experience or on the game economy. Tomes are a different matter, and therefore we have made them our primary concern as we examine this matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theosebes

The tomes are for sure the bigger issue, the mini was just a more visible symptom. There are lots of us who would like a legit way to get LDoA and Survivor on the same character, but right now, only dishonest players have a chance to get it

Players who possess tomes and players who have used tomes are known to us and will not be allowed to remain in Pre-Searing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlos

Game has been out for 2+ years and with surprisingly very few hacks... that it took malicious people 2+ years to finally produce a serious break (the duping bug) is actually admirable.

That is takes a short period of time to find it, and virtually just hours to action those using it, is something beyond remarkable. I am in awe of those working on this matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by manitoba1073

You dont get on the net much huh. The duping is 2 months+ old since the reconnect feature was added. And theres been lots of hacks before that.

Oh? Can you prove that? Or are you just talking nonsense? I know the truth; you clearly do not. Remember -- we have the records; we have the facts. We know everything that has gone on, and I assure you, this situation has not existed for two months, and there have decidedly not "been lost of hacks before that." Don't for an instant think that you can talk such nonsense in this community and not get called on it.