How to beat magni?

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Just for the record if you're a monk or necro, 55ing with Spoil Victor lets you kill absolutely everyone with no problem. I've run this so many times now I can do it in my sleep.

wonderwyrm

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

whats the reward for this tournament?

rep and some silly crown?

pork soldier

pork soldier

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

*/Rt kills everything, it takes setup time for 5 or 6 spirits and then 3-5 seconds for the spirits to completely gank anyone.

Naliah Alexis

Naliah Alexis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

England

[Kweh]

R/Mo

Thank you Kenwryll for your Oath Shot build idea! However I was having so much trouble with Alesia and her stupid Healing Hands -.-.

So I tweaked your build and this one works wonders! Against M. Bison too.

[skill]Oath Shot[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Bloodsong[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill][skill]Disenchantment[/skill][skill]Dissonance[/skill][skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Throw Dirt[/skill]

Same attributes as Kenwryll's bar. 14 Expertise. 12 Communing and 8 Channeling.
With M. Bison simple set up your spirits in a line. Run in and cast Painful Bond. He'll use his signet. It's too fast for Dissonance, but by the time it's attack reaches M. Bison it would have interrupted his Bear Form attack. Just keep the spirits up thats all. Happy Token Farming.

Alperuzi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

An/TR

Need One! :(

W/Mo

I beat him, with a Warrior using Deadly Riposte, Grenth's B.

However I was lucky not to get some of those necros... ouch...

I faced Gwen at lv5 though and unleashed an ebon sin at her to take the first signet.

I'm guessing this tourney is not very warrior friendly

wilderness

wilderness

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Join Date: Mar 2006

We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO]

W/N

I used the following build with my warrior:

[skill]Sever Artery[/skill]Necrosis[skill]Plague Touch[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill][skill]Riposte[/skill][skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill]

The only contestant I found I couldn't beat with it was Mhenlo (I just couldn't out damage his heal, and my ripostes were useless), so I had to restart a couple of times, but it took down Magni just fine. Melee = dead with no effort and worked against all casters: I hit with sever, then stood back and alternated Necrosis/Heal Sig until they dropped (moving out of any localized AOE).

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wonderwyrm
whats the reward for this tournament?

rep and some silly crown? Bison Cup. Look back along this thread to find an image.

pork soldier

pork soldier

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

don't even bother with oath shot

*/Rt - 12 channelling, 12 communing, +20e staff

[skill]wanderlust[/skill][skill]pain[/skill][skill]bloodsong[/skill][skill]anguish[/skill][skill]vampirism[/skill][skill]painful bond[/skill][skill]disenchantment[/skill][skill]shadowsong[/skill]

Run to just outside aggro ring of any arena opponent, spam spirits 1-5, if it's an opponent that uses enchants put up disench, apply painful, wait 2 seconds, win.

Vs bison put up shadowsong instead of disenchant. The entire tournament takes about 3 minutes with this bar, primary class is totally irrelevant.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Here is a build for Me/N players.

OQRDAcw3QCVLB7iAVGg1B3g7BA
Fast Casting 12+3
Illusion 12+3+1

Signet of Illusions (E)
Arcane Echo
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Report
Web of Disruption
Shrinking Armor
Enfeeble
Necrosis
Insidious Parasite

A video too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZnBd-_0FW4

Edit: The last few seconds of the movie don't play unless you click back to earlier in the movie and then click again to right near the end. I have no idea why.

psycore

psycore

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

pretty much what i did, used the bonus staff run just outside agro summon vampirism / pain / wanderlust and shadowsong then tap them with the staff and step back and let the spirits do the work.

Magni takes a tad longer but you can run around and summon spirits while he is trying to figure out who to attack.

By the way my primary is paragon so there is no excuse that you cant do it!
(well maybe you dont have factions >_>)

If you dont have the wanderlust spirit just head straight out north from zin ku corridor and kill the temple guardian boss who is past the bridges.

Toutatis

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

Interrupt Magni's bear form. It raises his health and gives his attacks against you an extra punch. Prevent him from using it and he's just a big ol' teddybear

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

I give up. I'm trying the Grenth's Balance trick with a warrior and now every single freaking time I've gone in I can't even get to him because I keep going up against Eles, Rangers, and Rits that just keep me perpetually blinded.

Farking Rit was ridiculous. Blinded me and then took the opportunity to set up a couple spirits, Painful Bond, and then just let them slap the crap out of me.

Ugh. This is not worth the time it's taking. I'm going back to boxing.

rangersaurus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omniclasm
Focused Anger
Barbed Spear
Nonsensical Spear
Spear of Redemption
Go for the Eyes
Poison Tip Signet
Finale of Restoration
Ebon Assassin summon thing.

Don't remember attributes. Just keep him crippled the whole time, the degen will eventually kill him.

Edit: I'm sure theres better builds, or even improvements for this one, but it worked for me. Yea... it's not working so well for me. I might try to get my vanguard rank up to make the ebon assassin stronger. I keep getting wrecked by eles and mesmers. FoR isn't healing me well enough, so it is hard to survive against that sort of stuff. I may try troll unguent since I have points in wilderness survival for the poison tip sig. Anyone else have a para build that worked well?

Keifru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Meep] Biscuit of Dewm

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toutatis
Interrupt Magni's bear form. It raises his health and gives his attacks against you an extra punch. Prevent him from using it and he's just a big ol' teddybear Eaiser said than done. His bear form takes like 1/2 the time to cast than other norns.

wilderness

wilderness

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Join Date: Mar 2006

We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctb
I give up. I'm trying the Grenth's Balance trick with a warrior and now every single freaking time I've gone in I can't even get to him because I keep going up against Eles, Rangers, and Rits that just keep me perpetually blinded.

Farking Rit was ridiculous. Blinded me and then took the opportunity to set up a couple spirits, Painful Bond, and then just let them slap the crap out of me.

Ugh. This is not worth the time it's taking. I'm going back to boxing. Try the build I mentioned above. You use PT to rid yourself of blind then hit with sever and take down with Necrosis.

Easy

nugzta

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keifru
Eaiser said than done. His bear form takes like 1/2 the time to cast than other norns. Nope, the AI is too predictable once you attack him the first thing he would do is activating his bear form, also if you apply conditions/hexes the first thing he would do is activating his purge signet. If you have experience as interrupt ranger or mes (which is not common in PvE) it should be an easy task.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by xDusT II
[skill]mark of rodgort[/skill][skill]Fireball[/skill][skill]Mind Blast[/skill][skill]Smoldering Embers[/skill][skill]Glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]Spirit Bond[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Fire attunement[/skill]

worked wonders for me. As for the battles before him, the majority of them should be easy. The dangerous ones are anyone with excessive degen or constant low damage. In both cases you should just be able to out damage them. This looks like an awesome build. Thanks!

I had a lot of trouble against the earth ele, first time around. His health went up SUPER fast, and I had trouble doing a lot of damage against him. Also the Mac/Joe combination I'm glad I only got once, because Joe just interrupts me.

For the most part, with my air ele I have no trouble getting to the last guy, and then I run out of energy before I can beat him.

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

The warrior build on the first page is really helpful I managed to beat Bison for once XD, the skills are really useful too I replaced final thrust with the shout that caused deep wound and cracked armor, and the other one with the 4 adreneline and cant be blocked. For eles, mesmers and what not, i just stand there and do nothing until they hit me to 100 dmg, then i use doylak and the number goes down and down, around 30-60 i use grenths and that takes em to about half and then i use the shout for deep wound and cracked armor and start attacking and usually its gg.

lol for mhenlo i waited till my hp was at 13 and thank god i actually got him!

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by pork soldier
don't even bother with oath shot

*/Rt - 12 channelling, 12 communing, +20e staff

[skill]wanderlust[/skill][skill]pain[/skill][skill]bloodsong[/skill][skill]anguish[/skill][skill]vampirism[/skill][skill]painful bond[/skill][skill]disenchantment[/skill][skill]shadowsong[/skill]

Run to just outside aggro ring of any arena opponent, spam spirits 1-5, if it's an opponent that uses enchants put up disench, apply painful, wait 2 seconds, win.

Vs bison put up shadowsong instead of disenchant. The entire tournament takes about 3 minutes with this bar, primary class is totally irrelevant.
Wow. Thank you!

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Is this the Norn Fighting Tournament? Because if it is, guildwiki said it unlocks the ritualist and dervish heroes. Here is what it said:

Ogden Stonehealer - Dwarven Monk (unlocked after completing What Lies Beneath)
Vekk - Asuran Elementalist (unlocked after completing What Lies Beneath)
Gwen - Human Mesmer (unlocked at the Eye of the North)
Jora - Norn Warrior (unlocked after completing Northern Allies)
Xandra - Human Ritualist (unlocked via Norn Fighting Tournament)
Kahmu - Human Dervish (unlocked via Norn Fighting Tournament)

Any info will be appreciated!

silvia_littlegirl

silvia_littlegirl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/

yes i unlocked them in it. You must defeat both

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by silvia_littlegirl
yes i unlocked them in it. You must defeat both Thanks! I did actually get them. I got Xandra pretty easy, had to come back for Kahmu because of Avatar of Balthazar. hehe

nardhelain

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Coven of the Gathering Storm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailfall
could you share your Necro build maybe?

I'm having a hard time killing him
I tried SV, and I tried Life Transfer. I kept running out of energy before Magni ran out of life. So instead, I went N/Rt with this skill bar:

[skill]Grenth's Balance[/skill][skill]Necrosis[/skill][skill]Faintheartedness[/skill][skill]Painful Bond[/skill][skill]Pain[/skill][skill]Displacement[/skill][skill]Shadowsong[/skill][skill]Dissonance[/skill]

Soul Reaping: 2+1
Curses: 8+1+3
Communing: 12
Channeling: 10
Sunspear Title Track: r10 (Legendary Spearmarshal)

You can use this build without a maxed sunspear title - it just might take a little longer to kill some opponents

Equipment
A staff or wand/focus with HSR/HCT all spells is useful. +Energy mods are useful. You will also need a longbow.

Usage
Enter the ring, but do not aggro your opponent. Cast your spirits in the order indicated from left to right, spreading them out in a line across the arena. Let your energy return to max in between casts.

Once you have your spirits up, equip your longbow and fire one shot at your opponent. This will get your spirits started firing off attacks. Re-equip your staff (for the energy), and cast Painful Bond and Faintheartedness on your target. Spam Necrosis once the target is hexed. Most foes will only require one or two casts of Necrosis before they surrender.

To fight Magni, follow all the steps above, except wait to cast your hexes until AFTER he changes to bear form. He loses hexes during his transformation. Spam Necrosis like mad, being sure to reapply the hexes periodically. Magni uses Purge Signet, so you will have to make sure he is continuously hexed. Eventually, he will kill off all your spirits and come at you. Let him hit you ONCE and once only. Immediately activate Grenth's Balance. He should submit straight away in most cases. If not, make sure he's hexed (with faintheartedness), and fire off Necrosis a time or two. Be sure you run around so as not to give him an easy target.

Variant

If you are confident in your ability to avoid most foes (excepting Magni), you can replace Displacement with Bloodsong for additional damage. This would also be an appropriate swap if your sunspear rank is low.

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Pwnt him with 55 using SV.

Cast it, let him purge it, recast.

Dont recast again until his Purge Signet has been wasted removing it about 2-3 seconds before it ends anyway xD

Got my 2 bonus heroes now also woot :]

flyinhigh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

meh

wtfpwned

N/

i beat him 6 times today to get the cup and my crown, ele/rt, spirit spam for the win. literally the quickest fight i have ever seen, he last 45 seconds maybe?, also I used "you move like a dwarf" to interupt his bear form. it 10 energy instand cast knockdown and you can easily interupt it cuz he ALWAYS tries to cast it first.

foo

foo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

N/

A ranger bar with rit skills:
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could be easily adapted to any profession.

Peter Panic

Peter Panic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

ct

Scars Meadows [SMS]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bug John
with this sin build, you can kill all the heroes and bison

critical agility (sunspear)
critical defense
way of perfection
beguiling haze (e)
golden fox strike
wild strike
critical stike
impale

stats are something like 12 daggers, 13 critical, 9 shadow and 3 deadly
(sure you can have better ones, didn't want to buy new runes)

very easy to use i used that EXACT same build, some guy in gunners hold told me about it (might have been u), and it didnt work too well for me. granted i could own everything that came at me, i couldnt take out bison. i got to him and haze wouldnt interrupt bear form, and he just used purge sig to get rid of dazed. so for a sin, ive actually been using the a/d solo HM elemental farmer. it worked well for the first 2 parts, then for the final one, i got pwned

EDIT: i take it back, used this build and got me a crown, now if only the crowns werent so bad looking...

LONGA

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

N/

After trying around 10+ times finally got a build that do win 80% of the tournament and Defeat Magni

Headbutt Brawl(PvE skill from Killroy) >> the real killer 3/4 at KD with some damage and doesnt blow out all your adrenaline
Steel fang slash >>> Adrenaline boost
Dragon Slash >>> same as Steel fang
Hamsring >>> A must
Berserker stance >>> qiuck adrenaline start up
Fail >>> Your main IAS stance
Deadly Ripose >>> must have
Healing signet >>> Need to tell?

Problem for this build is no condition removal so you gonna depend on shield or rune that reduce blind duration.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Well, after trying Blood builds all day, and spending 10k on the battles, I gave up and went 55 SV and beat Bison on the first try.

[skill]Spoil Victor[/skill][skill]Necrosis[/skill][skill]Parasitic Bond[/skill][skill]Blood Renewal[/skill][skill]Mending[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]




But I really wish someone would play around with the earlier build I was trying:


[skill]Soul Leech[/skill][skill]Insidious Parasite[/skill][skill]Enfeeble[/skill][skill]Parasitic Bond[/skill][skill]Blood Renewal[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill]

This build is a LOT of fun and it gets to Bison every time (except vs Danika)

vs Casters use Soul Leech + PS
vs Melee use Insideous + PS
vs Dervishes or dual Warrior/Casters use both Soul Leach + Insidious + PS

vs Rangers use Blood Renewal ASAP (don't wait) + Insideous

vs Bison.......draw off his Purge Sig with Para Bond or Enfeeble. To damage him PS + Insideous works...until you run out of energy. He doesn't attack often enough for Balthazar's Spirit/Essence Bond to be useful, and the /Mo secondary is crucial.

You can also go Enfeeble + Spirit Bond for defense and that works better energy wise, but still draws too much.

absolutcrobi

absolutcrobi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Naked Pagans

Rt/Me

[skill]spirit siphon[/skill] [skill]pain[/skill] [skill]shadowsong[/skill] [skill]wanderlust[/skill] [skill]boon of creation[/skill] [skill]leech signet[/skill]
(You move like dwarf and vampirism are the ones that won't wiki)
Code: OAWjAyiDJT2kMT+gfTnNnTOT9AA

Boon before the timers counts down, drop pain and vamp a little forward, but not enough to draw aggro yet, drop wanderlust and bloodsong in the back. Then run up and attack leech his bear form, dwarf him, he will purge and move into get hit by the spirits, attacking pain and vampirism first, just keep hitting him and keep him close to you instead of your spirits as long as you can, then dwarf him as often as possible, if he manages to kill of a spirit or two cast them on the opposite side again repeat till he dies like a beatch, i never had to use spirit siphon but i brought it in case i ran low on energy

yesitsrob

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

So I was like a monk... and ran Crip Anguish, Conjure Phantasm, Cry of Pain, and Leech Signet... yeah. Pretty piss easy really.

Hex him, interrupt Purge. Good times.

Anyone who struggles probably should like.. l2p already, the game has been out for 2 years.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wings of Fury
Yeah, had to lower myself to my Earth ele build .
LOWER YOURSELF?


my son, you have now achieved true ascention


earth> pve pwned

wonderwyrm

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

any derv builds that dont require an earth weapon

TGgold

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

As most have said, /Rt wins the tourney.

Shadowsong/Disenchantment/Anguish (specific spirits)
Bloodsong, Vampirism (Staple Spirits)
Painful Bond

I used Boon of Creation, Mighty was Vorizun, and Caretaker's Charge to round out the bar. Just cast the spirits you need for the oppenent you're against, aggro, and win.

I had a version that used all the available spirits and Spirit Chanelling as the Elite. Life Stealing of Bloodsong and Vampirism deal with mhenlo. Only problem is Argo if you forgot to take disenchantment.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

I did mine with a Mesmer... took a while to get the build right, I was using a variation of a Sskai farming build from ages back, then I got necrosis

[skill=text]Signet of Midnight[/skill]
[skill=text]Mantra of Inscriptions[/skill]
Necrosis
[skill=text]Images of Remorse[/skill]
[skill=text]Ether Feast[/skill]
[skill=text]Web of Disruption[/skill]
[skill=text]Ethereal Burden[/skill]
[skill=text]Kitah's Burden[/skill]

As soon as you get within agro range, use Web of Disruption and you'll snap his bear form out of the way. He'll purge off that skill... So Immediately go in with signet of midnight, images of remorse should be kept up and spam necrosis on him. If you get to about 30-25 energy use Etheral Burden and make yourself ranged. Try to time your elite so that you can put the blind on him as soon as he's used purge signet, which he'll constantly use whenever its recharged. Doesn't take too long to do.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

i just used the old blind bot build with my ele. just kept blind and weakness on him while spamming other air spells. not too hard.

Ace2001

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by wonderwyrm
any derv builds that dont require an earth weapon I'd like to know this, aswell. I went and got the skills listed for earlier derv builds, but then I realized that I don't have any earth damage scythes (and neither do any of my friends. :/)

I tried to use an enchantment that makes me deal earth damage, but that's 10 extra energy and I can't keep up with it. ~_~;

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by pork soldier
*/Rt - 12 channelling, 12 communing, +20e staff

[skill]wanderlust[/skill][skill]pain[/skill][skill]bloodsong[/skill][skill]anguish[/skill][skill]vampirism[/skill][skill]painful bond[/skill][skill]disenchantment[/skill][skill]shadowsong[/skill]

Run to just outside aggro ring of any arena opponent, spam spirits 1-5, if it's an opponent that uses enchants put up disench, apply painful, wait 2 seconds, win.

Vs bison put up shadowsong instead of disenchant. The entire tournament takes about 3 minutes with this bar, primary class is totally irrelevant. This, right here, is FTW. So easy it feels like cheating. In fact, I would suggest that the game be altered to have the opponent have full aggro as soon as the round begins so they can start their attacks right away to fix this. Though until then, if you want easy wins, this is it.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

that ritualist build is unbelievably easy.

Telomir

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Everlasting Sacred Path

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArYeS
My friend uses monk and he killed him two times allready:

Shield of Judgement
Holy Strike
Castigation Signet (new EotN)
Reversal of Fortune
Protective Spirit
Scourge Healing (not much of a use)
Baltazar's Spirit
Essence Bond

smithing 12+1+3
prot 12+1
divine 3+1

Trade Essence Bond, Balthazar's Spirit, and Scourge healing for Signet of Mystic Wrath, Bane Signet, and Symbol of Wrath (or Kirin's Wrath I think is the equivalent) and you own it and don't have to deal with the maintained enchants.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

More fun build (posted on youtube). Mesmer/Necromancer.

Signet of Illusions (E), arcane echo, assassin vanguard summon, web of disruption, (I choose finish him for this slot for npcs), enfeeble, necrosis, insidious parasite.

GG won myself a crown and it's fun to summon two assassins to kill the npcs before you.

credits to youtube guy (I just copied it he made it)