Norn, Vangaurd,ect title tracks

The game is one week away from release. I've already done ALL the Norn quests, including beating every dungeon at least once, and I'm still at 14.5k points, meaning I'm a little over one fifth of the way there to getting my armor. Having to kill monsters repeatedly for the remaining points is grind, no matter how you twist it. How do I know there won't be any more norn quests upon release? We've seen the entire Norn area except for two towns (Longeye's Ledge and the Umbral Grotto), and as we've seen in previous preview events, the quests in the preview areas are generally all that's available at the time of release in those areas and that's when they had months between the previews and release to add more quests. I highly doubt that they'll be adding 44k Norn points' worth of quests within the next week.
That's a decent point. Yes, you do have to kill monsters repeatedly, but...

Why aren't you complaining about Vabbian armor? Vabbian armor costs 16 rubies and 16 saphires in gems. Playing all the quests gets you about 4 gems. That means you need to put a lot of work in to farm your way to 28 gems unless you already farmed enough gold before nightfall was released. The only real difference is that you can't buy Norn rank off ebay as conveniently as you could for gold.

Grinding title is a cheap Substitute to entertain everyone for another year he he
you just need to say no XD LOL. This is so true... It's a cheap substitute to prolong the game for people. I tried the "no" approach, but couldn't resist playing the game for the armor. Yes, I finish all the chapters of every guildwars with all my characters. Reason? It was so I can get the armor of my choice whenever I want to.

And those who enjoys mindless grinding, I'm just speechless. Actually, while grinding for a few k worth of pts, I had to constantly cuss, joke about it and trash talk about this expansion and direction of the game on how exciting it was to friends just to have the opportunity to look at the armor. It keeps my sanity up while doing so... A few lines includes... WTB Grinder, WTB Grinding Services, WTB a mindless grinding expansion, etc.

Those who thinks that level either needs to be lowered or perhaps give ya 50k points for Norn (or any other armor related races) that finishes the game... I am siding with this side and let's just hope that's the case. I surely wouldn't want to end up grinding it 10x56k for all my characters. I wouldn't mind playing the game through 10 times with each character, but I wouldn't grind it. That's perhaps the reason why I didn't bother with Sunspear title?

That's a decent point. Yes, you do have to kill monsters repeatedly, but...

Why aren't you complaining about Vabbian armor? Vabbian armor costs 16 rubies and 16 saphires in gems. Playing all the quests gets you about 4 gems. That means you need to put a lot of work in to farm your way to 28 gems unless you already farmed enough gold before nightfall was released. The only real difference is that you can't buy Norn rank off ebay as conveniently as you could for gold. Simple: In the case of other prestige armor, you can buy it if you have the money. Meaning you can choose to do things such as play through other parts of the game, sell drops, and do other quests then come back for the armor. I should know, I bought vabbian for my ele, and FoW as well as 4 other 15k sets for my ranger by simply playing through the game(s) with multiple characters. That way it's fun and there's always something different to see. In this case we're forced to farm the same area again and again, see the difference?

In this case we're forced to farm the same area again and again, see the difference? no, you are forcing yourself to farm the area over and over, because u can simply play the game, u can do dungeons, theres other ways to get your pts man, u have to remember you didn't get to do every single quest in norn side.

also, what makes u think there wont be HM and therefore higher bounties?

IF your reason to whine about this requirement is because u want the armor as soon as the game goes live, then the answer is simple, want it fast? work for it, otherwise play the game and im sure ull make it.

no, you are forcing yourself to farm the area over and over, because u can simply play the game, u can do dungeons, theres other ways to get your pts man, u have to remember you didn't get to do every single quest in norn side. Though you are right, noone is forcing you to farm an area over and over for points, it should be noted tha this is by far the quickest and easiest way of accumulating points. Which begs the question: Why do it any other way?

Some people I know have been "farming" the Nornbear quest...I have been farming Varajar Fells...the points seem to go up and up almost exponentially as you receive Norn hunting party rank 2, 3 and 4, and gain other blessings such as the one which ends if you don't kill anything for 45 seconds. Clearing Varajar Fells seems to give me about 3000-4000 points over the course of about an hour...depending on luck with blessings. So...if you find an area which gives you a lot of points quite quickly...why would you want to do a 5-level dungeon, taking 1-2 hours per trip, instead for less?

The 56,000 points is perfectly doable. The problem is, many people would rather play throuh the game rather than farm continuously. There is no *real* fun in farming the same thing over and over...at least...not for 95% of the people playing the game it would seem. I've only known very few people who actually really enjoy farming.

I'm not sure I'm 100% sold on the "you need to farm copiously to obtain this armor" idea, but I'll do it nonetheless. When it comes to Reputation farming...I'll farm for Reputation for the races I want the armor from, or skills from...If I need neither of those, then that race can screw off.

no, you are forcing yourself to farm the area over and over, because u can simply play the game, u can do dungeons, theres other ways to get your pts man, u have to remember you didn't get to do every single quest in norn side.

also, what makes u think there wont be HM and therefore higher bounties?

IF your reason to whine about this requirement is because u want the armor as soon as the game goes live, then the answer is simple, want it fast? work for it, otherwise play the game and im sure ull make it. No, I don't want the armor to be available as soon as the game goes live. I was actually shocked to see crafters so early on in the game and was expecting them to either be available later on or be locked for the preview. Of course there's still the possibility that setting insane title requirements was their way of locking the armors out of the preview event. I sure hope it was.

And please don't call it whining, people like you act like ANet is doing us a favor by giving us stuff to play. They're business that provides a service, and we pay them to provide it. Although you may not understand that, I'm sure the people at ANet do.