GW coming to a console or...?
Tadpole Lord
I find it funny that all of you would think it would be on a ps2/ps3. The ps2 is outdated and can't handle a modern game in the slightest, and there is no denying that. The ps3 is selling so poorly I seem to doubt they would risk putting it on a system like that. The logical choice would be the 360, or possibly the Wii, just without any use of motion control.
Molock
The logical choice would be to keep GW as a PC only title.
Midnight08
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Originally Posted by Tadpole Lord
I find it funny that all of you would think it would be on a ps2/ps3. The ps2 is outdated and can't handle a modern game in the slightest, and there is no denying that. The ps3 is selling so poorly I seem to doubt they would risk putting it on a system like that. The logical choice would be the 360, or possibly the Wii, just without any use of motion control.
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bloodvayne
Guild Wars Ghost
You can't see me
Another problem with that is that I now add 400 dollars every two months to play it, since that seems to be the average X box 360 lifetime.
Anyway, this isn't a 360 vs Ps2 vs the baby toy- I mean, Wii, thread. Guild Wars For console would significantly dumb down the gameplay. While PC exclusive titles are dying, does that mean that's a good thing?
I saw a comparison of the Sims and the Urbz done on this thread.
I've played the Sims2 on my PC a long while now. I tried it on the console version. The gameplay was dumbed down to an idiotic point, and it was very hard to control the aspects of parts of the game, especially building and buying.
People just don't want to play PC games anymore because everyone thinks PC's are the old and broken residue that lie in the Ps1 and the X Box. What they miss is the fact that PC's give you a new angle of gameplay that consoles can't replicate.
So what if they make a console game where Gwen where's a double D bra? (comparitivly by today's sick game market.) Slightly Graphics and oversexing games is not a worthy sacrifice for the angle a PC gives you.
Anyway, this isn't a 360 vs Ps2 vs the baby toy- I mean, Wii, thread. Guild Wars For console would significantly dumb down the gameplay. While PC exclusive titles are dying, does that mean that's a good thing?
I saw a comparison of the Sims and the Urbz done on this thread.
I've played the Sims2 on my PC a long while now. I tried it on the console version. The gameplay was dumbed down to an idiotic point, and it was very hard to control the aspects of parts of the game, especially building and buying.
People just don't want to play PC games anymore because everyone thinks PC's are the old and broken residue that lie in the Ps1 and the X Box. What they miss is the fact that PC's give you a new angle of gameplay that consoles can't replicate.
So what if they make a console game where Gwen where's a double D bra? (comparitivly by today's sick game market.) Slightly Graphics and oversexing games is not a worthy sacrifice for the angle a PC gives you.
Razorwood
For all the people that claim MMOs won't / can't work on a console (To many to quote).
Have any of you heard about umm Final Fantasy 11? That was released on Ps2 and PC at the same time and allows both platforms to play together. Then it was also released on Xbox 360, which uses the same servers.
Both these consoles support a USB keyboard to type, 360 version also includes voice chat.
And it works fine with a control pad and there is a lot more to click / select than GW since you can have more than 8 skills at one time, you can set up a lot of macros, you have to use a lot of menus.
It may not be the most popular MMO in the world but it's still going and it's been around for about 3 years now (Possibly longer i'm not sure), not to mention it's also had at least 3 expansions in that time.
So consoles not suited for MMOs / harmful to them? I don't think so.
I played this on PC not a console but I have several friends that prefered it on Ps2 / 360.
Also you have to remember console games are optimised for 1 set of hardware, so if you buy an MMO (Or any game for that matter) you know it will run without the risk of having to upgrade hardware / fiddle with your graphic settings.
Have any of you heard about umm Final Fantasy 11? That was released on Ps2 and PC at the same time and allows both platforms to play together. Then it was also released on Xbox 360, which uses the same servers.
Both these consoles support a USB keyboard to type, 360 version also includes voice chat.
And it works fine with a control pad and there is a lot more to click / select than GW since you can have more than 8 skills at one time, you can set up a lot of macros, you have to use a lot of menus.
It may not be the most popular MMO in the world but it's still going and it's been around for about 3 years now (Possibly longer i'm not sure), not to mention it's also had at least 3 expansions in that time.
So consoles not suited for MMOs / harmful to them? I don't think so.
I played this on PC not a console but I have several friends that prefered it on Ps2 / 360.
Also you have to remember console games are optimised for 1 set of hardware, so if you buy an MMO (Or any game for that matter) you know it will run without the risk of having to upgrade hardware / fiddle with your graphic settings.
Tijger
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Originally Posted by Tadpole Lord
I find it funny that all of you would think it would be on a ps2/ps3. The ps2 is outdated and can't handle a modern game in the slightest, and there is no denying that. The ps3 is selling so poorly I seem to doubt they would risk putting it on a system like that. The logical choice would be the 360, or possibly the Wii, just without any use of motion control.
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PS3 may not be selling as well as the competition but we're still talking millions of consoles who' owners are starved of good new games
Faer
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Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov
If anything, we'll see a MMORPG on the PS3.
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/sigh
hyro yamaguchi
How do you connect a dual shock to your pc?
Mike_version2
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
3 words.
Guild. Wars. Kart. |
That Id buy
Apharot
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Originally Posted by hyro yamaguchi
Guildwars on a console???
Hold on, select 8 skills, follow target, switch weapon sets, open stuff like maps friend list etc. etc. and above all quick ingame chat. How many buttons can you have on a controller? And then I'm not even mentioning in game chat (or is it already possible to use vent on the ps3?) Anyway, how many people does xbox live have? With gold offcourse, less than WoW, I know that, prob about as much as GW, an MMORPG just doesn't work if you have so little people to buy your product. |
MisterB
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Originally Posted by hyro yamaguchi
How do you connect a dual shock to your pc?
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I don't think GW2, and certainly not GW is coming to console, but who knows what will happen between now and 2009/2010. The PCGamer article on the other hand mentions that ANet wants to simplify the gameplay and skill system, and add jumping/swimming to Guild Wars 2.
I think NCSoft is developing for consoles, not neccessarily ANet. Guild Wars requires fairly complex controls at the moment compared to other console games. It's my understanding that the design team at ANet have all created PC games, not console games.
Ninna
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Originally Posted by MisterB
I think NCSoft is developing for consoles, not neccessarily ANet.
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what it is - we dont know
Apharot
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Originally Posted by Tadpole Lord
I find it funny that all of you would think it would be on a ps2/ps3. The ps2 is outdated and can't handle a modern game in the slightest, and there is no denying that. The ps3 is selling so poorly I seem to doubt they would risk putting it on a system like that. The logical choice would be the 360, or possibly the Wii, just without any use of motion control.
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Apharot
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Originally Posted by Tadpole Lord
I find it funny that all of you would think it would be on a ps2/ps3. The ps2 is outdated and can't handle a modern game in the slightest, and there is no denying that. The ps3 is selling so poorly I seem to doubt they would risk putting it on a system like that. The logical choice would be the 360, or possibly the Wii, just without any use of motion control.
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Razorwood
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Originally Posted by Apharot
The PS3 is selling poorly due to price,
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Ok people might start saying "I'd buy a Ps3 if it has a GW game on it" well I don't believe you, why the hell would you pay so much money just to play 1 game? Especially when a lot of people play GW since there are no monthly fees.
Also look at the Wii technicially it's the lowest spec console and it's selling the most, which further proves that more power isn't always best.
I also remember reading that the Ps3 is the hardest console to develop on and remember the 360 isn't to different from a PC so it's a lot easier to port PC games to it.
Granted it still won't come to 360 in anycase if they signed a deal with Sony.
Apharot
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Originally Posted by Razorwood
You answered your own question, the 360 is cheaper, not to mention it has a larger user base. Developers don't always pick a console because it's the most powerful. They look at other areas why make a game for a console that is the most powerful if only a small percentage of the market have one?
Ok people might start saying "I'd buy a Ps3 if it has a GW game on it" well I don't believe you, why the hell would you pay so much money just to play 1 game? Especially when a lot of people play GW since there are no monthly fees. Also look at the Wii technicially it's the lowest spec console and it's selling the most, which further proves that more power isn't always best. I also remember reading that the Ps3 is the hardest console to develop on and remember the 360 isn't to different from a PC so it's a lot easier to port PC games to it. Granted it still won't come to 360 in anycase if they signed a deal with Sony. |
Tahlia Tane
If there's anything coming for consoles from NCsoft, it will be PS3 because of the deal they made with Sony.
I pray that ArenaNet won't be doing a PS3 game.
PS3 is a terrible console. If it wasn't for the Wii and Xbox 360, it would have destroyed console gaming and caused a crash.
ArenaNet is extremely talented, and I would like to see this talent really be put to good use. I think a new PC game would be better than a PS3 game.
I pray that ArenaNet won't be doing a PS3 game.
PS3 is a terrible console. If it wasn't for the Wii and Xbox 360, it would have destroyed console gaming and caused a crash.
ArenaNet is extremely talented, and I would like to see this talent really be put to good use. I think a new PC game would be better than a PS3 game.
Razorwood
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Originally Posted by Apharot
The Wii is selling due to the novelty. It'll stop like Pong did.
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Originally Posted by Apharot
Most people look at it as JUST a gaming console. Go out, price a gaming console (PS2, or 360), a Blu-Ray DVD player, MP3 player, and stereo. Then tell me how much all that costs. Then look at the price of the PS3 again. Suddenly, it's not so bad.
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The only new thing the Ps3 really does it BluRay and personally i'm not ready to change my media format from DVD to BluRay just yet, and i'm not the only one. I mean what if BluRay doesn't take off?
I know it's still pretty much unheard of here in the Uk, and not many places stock media on BluRay so getting a Ps3 to act as a player is pointless.
Tahlia Tane
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Originally Posted by Apharot
The Wii is selling due to the novelty. It'll stop like Pong did. As for Why people would buy it, that's how people are. The more the good games, the more the demand. Besides, the PS3 is only going to come down in price. That's the only thing saving the 360. Most people are too short sighted to realize what the PS3 is. Most people look at it as JUST a gaming console. Go out, price a gaming console (PS2, or 360), a Blu-Ray DVD player, MP3 player, and stereo. Then tell me how much all that costs. Then look at the price of the PS3 again. Suddenly, it's not so bad.
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Originally Posted by Ninna
the 1st post in this thread confirms that ANET is doing a console game
what it is - we dont know |
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Is there a console port?
Is there a new non-MMO game from ArenaNet?
Is there anything else ArenaNet is working on?
Miller said yes, but we don't know if he said yes to the console port thing. I can't imagine why ArenaNet would be doing a console port, they are PC devs, not console devs. If there was a port, it would have been done by another studio, I think.
Personally? I think he said yes for "is there anything else Anet is working on".
Razorwood
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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
I hate to break it to ya (and I don't want this thread to turn into a console wars thread), but the Wii won't just stop selling. It will eventually sell a lot more than the PS3 and Xbox 360, eventually it will have a much bigger userbase than Xbox 360 and PS3 combined.
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Foe
.....gg gw community if this were to happen...we all take it for granted but as a whole its a very good one. My 14 yr old bro is a member of the x-box live village..its a dark..scary place. Ill put it this way, you will find yourself craving the old moronic conversation's about religion, politics, whos mom is biggest skank.etc.. The grueling mental test that is basic pc operation alone is enough to filter out 50% of those who are on xbox live...really.
Ninna
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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
When Miller said yes, it could have been an answer to any of those questions. And those questions were:
Is there a console port? Is there a new non-MMO game from ArenaNet? Is there anything else ArenaNet is working on? |
Razorwood
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Originally Posted by Foe
.....gg gw community if this were to happen...we all take it for granted but as a whole its a very good one. My 14 yr old bro is a member of the x-box live village..its a dark..scary place. Ill put it this way, you will find yourself craving the old moronic conversation's about religion, politics, whos mom is biggest skank.etc.. The grueling mental test that is basic pc operation alone is enough to filter out 50% of those who are on xbox live...really.
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Guess what there are also people like that in GWs infact 99% of online communaties have people like that. I play Xbox live and i've never had any problems with younger people throwing insults around, maybe it's because 99% of my friends are over 25 and know how to behave? On there's this lovely mute freature it if does happen.
Ninna
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Originally Posted by Foe
.....gg gw community if this were to happen...we all take it for granted but as a whole its a very good one. My 14 yr old bro is a member of the x-box live village..its a dark..scary place.
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you have FF11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_11
a mmorpg that has supported both PC and Console players for the last 5 years
(since 2002)
Apharot
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Originally Posted by Razorwood
People said the same thing about the DS, that it was a novelty and people would stop buying it....
I understand that but the thing is what if people have no interest in all those extra features? Also you know that the Ps2 plays DVDs? And the 360 will play DVDs and MP3s as well? (It will also play HD-DVD if you buy the add on) The only new thing the Ps3 really does it BluRay and personally i'm not ready to change my media format from DVD to BluRay just yet, and i'm not the only one. I mean what if BluRay doesn't take off? I know it's still pretty much unheard of here in the Uk, and not many places stock media on BluRay so getting a Ps3 to act as a player is pointless. |
What I want to know, and this is to the guy who said the PS3 is a terrible platform...I have read nothing but good reviews of it. Why do you think it is a terrible one?
Razorwood
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Originally Posted by Apharot
I see blu-ray all over here. It is advertised on TV, in the stores, etc. I also realize that the PS2 does that, I own one. It also plays music CDs. The PS3 does not have the issue of needing an add on. There is also a lot more to the PS3, stats I just do not have at my fingertips.
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Apharot
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Originally Posted by Razorwood
Do you mind telling me which country you live in?
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Razorwood
Like I said it's still pretty much unheard of in the UK, infact I don't even think i've seen a standalone BluRay player for sale, and according to my friend Europe is favouring HD-DVD.
Tahlia Tane
Blu-Ray support was crumbling last time I checked, I thought Warner dropped Blu-Ray and already there are HD-DVDs coming out of movies that are not coming to Blu-Ray. One example is Transformers.
Ninna
Blue Ray has been gaining in sales - not decreasing
Blu-ray outsells HD DVD 2:1
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/08/16/...blu-ray-movie/
that said,
I dont care about Blue Ray
I dont care WHICH Console
but I would love to see ANET do a game for a console
Blu-ray outsells HD DVD 2:1
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/08/16/...blu-ray-movie/
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I dont care about Blue Ray
I dont care WHICH Console
but I would love to see ANET do a game for a console
bamm bamm bamm
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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
ArenaNet is extremely talented, and I would like to see this talent really be put to good use. I think a new PC game would be better than a PS3 game.
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As for blu-ray, we'll just end up with cheap dual players. Customers won't give a crap what disc they are buying, as long as it's high def. Just like +/- DVDs. After that happens I imagine blu-ray will see more use due to the high capacity, but that's total speculation. Not that I get what this has to do with the topic.
Tahlia Tane
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Originally Posted by bamm bamm bamm
Well according to the interview Ninna provided us, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Apparently due to the low amount of effort required to port GW, the opportunity cost argument is pretty flawed.
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Ninna
PS3 has four USB 2.0 ports and Bluetooth support
easy to use a mouse and keyboard
easy to use a mouse and keyboard
bamm bamm bamm
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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
I don't see how it's a low amount of effort to port GW, it's made for the PC and is built around the mouse and keyboard and relies on them, too.
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Tahlia Tane
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Originally Posted by Ninna
PS3 has four USB 2.0 ports and Bluetooth support
easy to use a mouse and keyboard |
Ninna
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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane
hardly anyone uses a keyboard or mouse with PS3.
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Everquest Online Adventures is another mmorpg for PS2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQue...ine_Adventures
Input: Gamepad, keyboard (optional)
all this aside,
Jeff Strain has stated that GW is not difficult to export to console (if you read the interview)
Solas
i was pretty happy when i heard this,altho when i heard PS3 Exclusive i was annoyed
, because Guildwars is sub free, and a great game, but only on a €500 console, seems a bit unfair, i could see a Wii post with buttons on the screen, jsut clik the button on the screen ot open friend list or click on a skill to us it, point a d click for travel, or a wireless keyboard and mouse.
HopeFully if anet make a port it would fully be able to use on pc.
, because Guildwars is sub free, and a great game, but only on a €500 console, seems a bit unfair, i could see a Wii post with buttons on the screen, jsut clik the button on the screen ot open friend list or click on a skill to us it, point a d click for travel, or a wireless keyboard and mouse.HopeFully if anet make a port it would fully be able to use on pc.
Tahlia Tane
Well, either way, I'm tired of stupid Playstation fans that want all kinds of games on their PS3 that they don't really care about anyway just because they are so desperate for anything.