Do q8 inherents drop anymore?

wilderness

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I've been farming quite a lot over the past few months, some of my guild members are like machines... and none of us have seen a q8 inherent *GOLD* drop, in any form.

Just to avoid confusion, inherents will only drop in Tyria and Cantha.

If you could make ss of any q8 inherent drops with a skill bar/skin equipped/armor that indicates it was recent (as in the last few weeks) it would be greatly appreciated.

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Once again, this thread is for the GATHERING and CORRELATION of DATA and not a place to throw around opinion.


EDIT Should have specified for those outside of major trading circles, I'm looking for evidence of q8 GOLDS please.

warren_kn

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Sorry I have no SS to back this up but...

I was farming the Jade Knights outside of Marketplace with my warrior using Riposte etc. I was in hard mode as well if that helps. A Req. 8 crappy skinned axe dropped, max dmg, 15-10. However thats the first (and last) I've seen for a while.

makosi

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"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

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I think they do but they are rarer than ever before. Perhaps ANet decided to do this because, arguably, req.8 items are a tiny bit imbalanced in terms of PvP because we can't create them using the PvP interface. That's just a theory though.

Someone got a req.8 Inscribable Summit Warlord shield during the GW:EotN preview event so I'm pondering if the liklihood of seeing req.8 items is increased in the expansion (maybe as a selling point?).

As for inherent, non-inscribables, it's been well over a year since I've seen a gold, req.8 item even with a crap damage mod. As for req.7s, they're just out of the question.

P.S.. 'Requirement' begins with R. =)

MirkoTeran

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Depends how back you are looking. Last few weeks I haven't seen one, but about a month ago I did get 2 req8s (not perfect->merch) in Cantha while vanquishing.

Brianna

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Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
P.S.. 'Requirement' begins with R. =)
Yes.. a step in the right direction. Can't stand the Q thing. >.>

On another note, I haven't had any req.8 items in general for the past few months. And I was going to bring this up at some point, because i noticed that it was strange to never ever see req.8 items drop anymore.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

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They do still drop but i dont have any screenies to prove it... sorry.

wilderness

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q is a simplifier, deal with it.

And ty for info so far. Still hungry for a screen, though

Brianna

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Nah.. R is just as easy, and It's only 3 letters away. Most people say: Oh well people get confused when you say R, they might think it is rank. Well.. you could always type two more letters to make it say Req. and bam! totally amazing. Also, ''I'm selling a R.9 Fellblade 1k'' or ''My Fellblade is R.9'' for example. Now, let's Improvise common sense into this situation, ''Is they're Fellblade Rank 9? or Req.9? Well, I don't think Fellblades have ranks, so it must be Req.'' Bingo! Or a new example:You go to PvP, and someone asks ''What R are you?'' Or: "I'm R9" Again common sense:"Oh Gee that person said they are R9, That must mean Rank, since Req wouldn't really fit in to well would it?, Or: Oh hey, that person asked what R i am, they must mean rank I'm sure''. I think this just goes to show how lazy the community has become, or how dumb they have become.

On a side note.. Still no req.8s lol.

Drop of Fear

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since the Hard Mode update req7 is completely out of the game, req8 is the new req7. So yes r8 still drop, but it's as rare as having a req7 before the Hard Mode update.

Trying to stand this point since months, noone ever seemed to care lol

wilderness

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drop of Fear
since the Hard Mode update req7 is completely out of the game, req8 is the new req7. So yes r8 still drop, but it's as rare as having a req7 before the Hard Mode update.

Trying to stand this point since months, noone ever seemed to care lol
Easy assumption, one we've all made.

I'd still like to see a recent q8 SS if possible

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i till ve a quirement 7 ord n my ckpack

fenix

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I dunno about q8 weapons, because I've never heard of them before, but I believe a guildie got a req8 item at one point a couple weeks ago, doing Hard Mode.

Commander Ryker

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wilderness
q is a simplifier, deal with it.

And ty for info so far. Still hungry for a screen, though
Why is it easier then R? Actually, it's easier to type r then q. Deal with that.

meerkats

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I farmed gates of kryta on and off for about 7 weeks after hard mode was released and picked up more than 2900 gold items, i didnt see one one req 8 Max item in all those (i was looking since i wondered the same thing). This is obviously not proof but if they still do drop they are very rare.

gasp10

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i have my celestilal bow req.8(max dmg 15% -10arm) but i drop it around dicember.
now i don't khnow but i think they are very rare...never see someone sell req.8 item.

wilderness

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Let's try to steer the thread away from such pointless and pedantic nitpicking, huh?

And Pls, try to keep rumors to a minimum.

SS

etc..

YunSooJin

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nvmd, apparently I can read but not actually understand what the OP wants =P

Shakkara

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Req8 shield of the Lion dropped in Nightfall normal mode about 2 weeks ago in one of those areas around the sunspear command post, not sure which one.

http://80.60.190.55/pics/gw/gw222.jpg

Here's a ss of the item.

So req7's are completely out of the game? Shame as I really wanted a req7 shield and monk wand...

EDIT: Oh sorry didn't understand you wanted the old-fashioned non-inscribable ones... Sorry, but you could have phrased it in a better way. I THINK a guildie got a R8 crenelated sword in nahpui, but that was over a month ago and I dont have any evidence on that one, so mark it as rumor. I personally got a R8 15/ench jade sword from a chest outside gyala's but I'm not sure how far back that was, about 2 months I estimate.

wilderness

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakkara
Sorry, but you could have phrased it in a better way..
I could have? I apologize, I thought we could all distinguish between 'inherent' and 'inscription'...

I'll try to make it clearer next time

Kinn

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Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
Someone got a req.8 Inscribable Summit Warlord shield during the GW:EotN preview event so I'm pondering if the liklihood of seeing req.8 items is increased in the expansion (maybe as a selling point?).
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the sort of people to whom a slightly increased chance of dropping a req.8 would be considered a "selling point" are the sort of people who will probably be buying the latest GW expansion anyway.

Jason Xll

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Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
Someone got a req.8 Inscribable Summit Warlord shield during the GW:EotN preview event so I'm pondering if the liklihood of seeing req.8 items is increased in the expansion (maybe as a selling point?).
Let us hope that is not the case as I bought that warlord for +100e
Inscribable req8s still drop without a doubt and I don't see why tyrian req8s shouldn't, I doubt Anet would discriminate between inherents and inscribables and completely remove tyrian req8s drops As to their rarity, from personal experience; I've played GW for 27months and I havn't gotten a single perfect req8 in that time. My point is they were always rare but never ceased to drop completely.
Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
As for req.7s, they're just out of the question.
GFT

Winterclaw

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I don't get it. What's the big deal with low req weapons anyways? If you don't have 12 in that weapon's skill you aren't going to be doing a lot of damage, particularly vs mobs with higher AL, and your skills for that set aren't going to be great either.

I'd understand it if there was a farming build that only let you put 10 or less points into a weapon, but that's because you need your points elsewhare and you might not be attacking all that much. But aside from that, if you can't manage 12, it ain't worth it.

Jason Xll

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Call me sad, but I hardly leave town and actually hack away at something, low req weapons = prestige and tbh I don't really care if they don't drop anymore like req7s, that'll just make them more prestigious

wilderness

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Xll
I've played GW for 27months and I havn't gotten a single perfect req8 in that time. :
I and members of my guild used to farm like lunatics, and q8s (rubbish, mostly oc) were very frequent. As stated in Op, it's been a couple of months and none...

I'm probably off with the assumption that they no longer drop, but I'd still like to see a SS if possible

onerabbit

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Thanks to all the guru [mods]

i havent seen a req 8 in aaaages...

havent heard much from guildies etc getting them either

You can't see me

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Req 8's are still dropping.

Proof of this is in the new reports and sell pages of requirement eight focus items with nightfall skins, mostly inscribable, such as blessed chalices, holy vials, etc. Elemental requirement prisms are also being introduced from what I see.

I suppose if those are still dropping, other weapons are still dropping Requirement eight.

Requirement Seven items and unconditional inherit weapons are no longer dropping though.

wilderness

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Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
Req 8's are still dropping.

Proof of this is in the new reports and sell pages of requirement eight focus items with nightfall skins, mostly inscribable, such as blessed chalices, holy vials, etc. Elemental requirement prisms are also being introduced from what I see.

I suppose if those are still dropping, other weapons are still dropping Requirement eight.

Requirement Seven items and unconditional inherit weapons are no longer dropping though.
New sells and price checks are not valid evidence. A massive percentage of them will be recycled items. Regardless, even if they are fresh, I'm asking for SS evidence please. I'm not calling anyone a liar, I would just like complete confirmation. I'm also asking for Inherent only and not Inscription items.

Also

The section I highlight in bold is pure speculation and really adds nothing to what I'm trying to discover here. I set this thread up for the benefit of clarifying data or myself and a few close friends (also for anyone interested paying attention), if you feel like responding how I asked please do; if you're not going to add anything I might consider relevant (which can easily be deciphered by reading/understanding the Op) then please don't.

I don't mean to be rude, but please make sure you understand the OP before you post here. It will save me having to reply to every mislaid post such as this, and keep the original track of the thread. Thanks

FlameoutAlchemist

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Just to throw in my OT response to the OP's question -

I have a req.8 max FDS sitting in storage at the moment. It has no 15^50, +15% in stance, etc. on it, but I just kept it because it was req. 8 and I thought it was really strange. PM me in-game if you wanna see it.

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I am in a major farming guild that has practically lived in the Deep for the last month doing Hard Mode runs. Tons of golds but not a single req 8. Each person opens 4ish chests plus averages about 3 gold drops (excluding Kanaxi's chest), so 7x12=96 golds per run, 3 runs per night, 45ish runs = 0 req 8's out of over 10,000 golds. Over half are chest drops, fwiw. Members of the guild have also vanquished Tyria and Cantha HM without a single r8.

I've had a few r8's drop while playing Guild Wars (15^50 chaos axe - now customized, 5^50 10% spawning wand of some sort, 15^50 fellblade), but none since the early days of Cantha. I recall some serious speculation after one of the upgrades that they stopped dropping r8's to balance them properly with green drops.

So while it's possible that they still drop, there is certainly no evidence that they do. And if they do drop, the chance of getting one seems less than 0.01%.

Series

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Q8 weapons are imba... not by much, but just being slightly imba makes them worth being removed from the game.

BTW: "Q" stands for Req now. And if you don't like it, Q.Q moar.

Moloch Vein

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It's interesting how we can never ever get a response from A-net on a thing like this.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wilderness
New sells and price checks are not valid evidence. A massive percentage of them will be recycled items. Regardless, even if they are fresh, I'm asking for SS evidence please. I'm not calling anyone a liar, I would just like complete confirmation. I'm also asking for Inherent only and not Inscription items.

Also

The section I highlight in bold is pure speculation and really adds nothing to what I'm trying to discover here. I set this thread up for the benefit of clarifying data or myself and a few close friends (also for anyone interested paying attention), if you feel like responding how I asked please do; if you're not going to add anything I might consider relevant (which can easily be deciphered by reading/understanding the Op) then please don't.

I don't mean to be rude, but please make sure you understand the OP before you post here. It will save me having to reply to every mislaid post such as this, and keep the original track of the thread. Thanks


If you would learn to read carefully, you would see that the sales evidence I mentioned is only part of the whole post.

The compilation:

~Testimony from guildies of mine who have had Requriement 8's drop for them.
~My own testimony of having a requirement 8 drop for me a month ago.
~The fact that the sales of said items (req 8) are decreasing in value a slight bit, which implies that there are not a limited supply.

Ex. A Holy Vial, req 8 12 energy sold to me a month ago for X amount, in a close auction This day, I get offers for X-Y amount for it. This is not only my testimony, but many people I talk to who have experienced the same drop in value. I will gladly give you a few names of who you can talk to so you can clarify this evidence.


EDIT: To adress your complaint about non inscribable requirement eight drops, I realize my example is inscribable, but I do know people who can testify that they have gotten these items while farming/vanquishing/completing Tyria and Cantha on hard mode. My example is mainly to clarify the fact that if Requirement eight non inscribables were a limited supply, their prices would be much higher.


Before you tell someone off and correct them, I suggest you read carefully, just a thought.

The Herbalizer

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I can only remember one r8 dropping for me in 2 yrs gw and that was a non max bow in desert. I am sure a few more maybe dropped but cant remember.

I would like to think they were just really rare.

Maybe anet remove drop r7 and make r8 new r7 by make limited drop.

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I also feel the need to point this out for the points made that vanquishers have not found req 8's in hard mode.



Well, let's make a comparison.


In the entire game, there are 121 areas to vanquish. Reuirement 8 drops are rare, so let's compare this to elemental sword drops, which are also "Rare". I know many people who have farmed the areas where elemental swords supposedly drop well over 121 times and have not gotten a single sword. Just because a few people did not get it within the first 100 regions, does not mean they do not drop. It only means that they are unlucky and perhaps that these objects are rare to drop.

People not getting them in the process of vanquishing is not evidence.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
Q8 weapons are imba... not by much, but just being slightly imba makes them worth being removed from the game.

BTW: "Q" stands for Req now. And if you don't like it, Q.Q moar.
Yeah stands for lazy people and is used -->ingame<-- here is a forum

Jeremy Untouchable

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i will try to find a req 8 and get a screenshot of it IF i manage to find one. if everyone gives this a shot we should have the answer soon. Plus i'll bug AP about tonight to see if he knows...XD

HayesA

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I had a req 8 Enternal Shield drop for me once while doing an UW run. But this was months ago. No mods on the shield; it was totally white. I'll post a screeny of the item in a lil bit.

e// Ah, here it is. Then again, this was months ago; way before loot scaling, I believe.

Moloch Vein

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Req8 White max does not count. I've gotten some of those, merched them.

MithranArkanere

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I got one today.
A req8 +12 energy inscribed blue focus.

Yawgmoth

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There have been no recent changes in the drop generation system, the last happened with NF release.

Hint: farm req8s where req7s used to drop before NF, they wont drop where r7 didn't and there are just as rare. Also no hard mode (but there are exceptions)