Official GW and Mac thread
addone
I have a mac OS X and a Guild Wars which is only avalible for windows, could anyone submit URLs with things that can help me make it active for macs.
cannonfodder
You can't, it will not run on OSX, end of, sorry............
EDIT - IT DOES WHAT IT SAYS ON THE TIN only comaptible with microsoft windows......
DOUBLE EDIT - Emulators wont work neither will virtual pc installed on a mac
EDIT - IT DOES WHAT IT SAYS ON THE TIN only comaptible with microsoft windows......
DOUBLE EDIT - Emulators wont work neither will virtual pc installed on a mac
Xuphor
only thing you can try is emulators, but i don't thnik they can be discussed here
koneko
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Originally Posted by cannonfodder
DOUBLE EDIT - Emulators wont work neither will virtual pc installed on a mac
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Guild Wars works fine through VirtualPC on OS X, albeit a bit slow.
addone
I've now installed a program for installing exe's onto macs. But I still don't know how to use it to install Guild Wars, it works on everything else exept guild wars!!
cannonfodder
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Originally Posted by koneko
Why not?
Guild Wars works fine through VirtualPC on OS X, albeit a bit slow. |
koneko
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Originally Posted by cannonfodder
Thats exactly why, too slow, the lag is way too bad, yes I have a mac running VPC, waste of time and energy.
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It does work. Just pointing that out.
chris_nin00
An emulator won't work...
for me
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Too much lag
Either change your OS to Windows XP
Or
You can use an emulator
for me
.Too much lag
Either change your OS to Windows XP
Or
You can use an emulator
Raptox
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Originally Posted by koneko
Why not?
Guild Wars works fine through VirtualPC on OS X, albeit a bit slow. |
Back in my Power Mac 7200 days I got a few games working under VPC but it always emulated the video drivers into some generic garbage that kinda blew for gaming. Is it still doing this, or is it actually using the Windows drivers for the video card installed in the Mac? That'd be pretty sweet.
I assume that if you (1) had a dual-G5 with 2GB of RAM and (2) VPC used the Windows drivers for your video card you might be able to get GW into some sort of playable state.
Eugaet
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Originally Posted by Raptox
I assume that if you (1) had a dual-G5 with 2GB of RAM and (2) VPC used the Windows drivers for your video card you might be able to get GW into some sort of playable state.
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Raptox
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Originally Posted by Eugaet
If anyone is able to get this to work, I have quite a few Mac friends who have been suffering Guild Wars-envy since April...
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Then again, for some Mac users, this isn't a problem.
Dex
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Originally Posted by Raptox
Heh, now I'm curious. Do you remember what model Mac and what version of VirtualPC?
Back in my Power Mac 7200 days I got a few games working under VPC but it always emulated the video drivers into some generic garbage that kinda blew for gaming. Is it still doing this, or is it actually using the Windows drivers for the video card installed in the Mac? That'd be pretty sweet. I assume that if you (1) had a dual-G5 with 2GB of RAM and (2) VPC used the Windows drivers for your video card you might be able to get GW into some sort of playable state. |
Right now if you want to play most of the up-to-date games you just have to have a PC.
Raptox
I don't want to see this thread get closed, so I'm just going to suggest we don't start a Mac vs. PC debate. Besides, I'm hoping that someone like koneko will reply and/or post a screenshot of GW in VPC just to prove that it can be done.
Dex, you nailed me on the multithreading aspect. You're definintely right about GW not being able to take advantage of the dual cores, and while VPC might be multithreaded, that's not going to help GW.
On the other hand, the more work you can hand off directly to the video card, the less VPC actually has to do. I don't know if VPC is capable of that, though, so this whole thought might be moot.
To the OP (addone): How did you end up in this situation, anyway?
Dex, you nailed me on the multithreading aspect. You're definintely right about GW not being able to take advantage of the dual cores, and while VPC might be multithreaded, that's not going to help GW.
On the other hand, the more work you can hand off directly to the video card, the less VPC actually has to do. I don't know if VPC is capable of that, though, so this whole thought might be moot.
To the OP (addone): How did you end up in this situation, anyway?
Dex
Nah. The whole Mac vs. PC debate is pointless and I avoid it like the plague. I guess I was maybe suggesting that the new Intel-based Macs might have a better chance at running GW well than the G5's. 
Raptox
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Nah. The whole Mac vs. PC debate is pointless and I avoid it like the plague. I guess I was maybe suggesting that the new Intel-based Macs might have a better chance at running GW well than the G5's.
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Porting current OS X apps was said to be stupidly easy. I have no idea if it'll make porting Windows apps easier, but of course there's also the possibility of dual-booting OS X and Windows on the same machine. That takes the whole "Macs can't run games" thing and throws it out the window.
And you know someone will figure out how to do it 30 seconds after release.
Anyway, I'd dig up my old copy of VPC and give GW a try, but it'd make my G3 cry. GW on an ATI Rage 128? Hahahahahahaha...
Lunarbunny
I don't think GW runs in OpenGL, which would most likely speed up the game in VirtualPC or similar emulators. D3D is a b**** to get to run in anything but Windows.
Raptox
I'm gonna bump this, but I actually have a good reason.
With the release of the new Intel-based iMac and MacBook, you can now almost certainly run GW on a Mac. Windows XP runs fine on these guys as long as you set up a second partition (formatted NTFS, of course) for it and do a normal Windows install. These new Macs are using the ATI Radeon X1600, which should be more than enough for GW and, of course, has Windows drivers. You're going to want more than the standard 512MB RAM, though.
Here's a look at an early install of WinXP on these new guys showing that it can be done: http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0506intelmac.html
A note about that link: at that time (June '05, jeez) they were using some POS video card in the prototype, not the ATI card. So, disregard that little bit about the display being stuck at 800x600
So hey, this is pretty cool, I guess. Dual booting MacOS X and Windows XP on the same box? Actually being able to play games on a Mac now? Still a bit pricey, IMO.
With the release of the new Intel-based iMac and MacBook, you can now almost certainly run GW on a Mac. Windows XP runs fine on these guys as long as you set up a second partition (formatted NTFS, of course) for it and do a normal Windows install. These new Macs are using the ATI Radeon X1600, which should be more than enough for GW and, of course, has Windows drivers. You're going to want more than the standard 512MB RAM, though.
Here's a look at an early install of WinXP on these new guys showing that it can be done: http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0506intelmac.html
A note about that link: at that time (June '05, jeez) they were using some POS video card in the prototype, not the ATI card. So, disregard that little bit about the display being stuck at 800x600
So hey, this is pretty cool, I guess. Dual booting MacOS X and Windows XP on the same box? Actually being able to play games on a Mac now?
Still a bit pricey, IMO.
funkmed
Hi,
I'm posting here after having been confronted to the same problem.
I've got Parallels Desktop installed for educational purposes at home on Mac OS Tiger x86.
It seems ok to play Guild wars, thus a minimum amount of RAM is required for the virtual pc, i didn't mention I use Win XP SP2 as a virtual PC desktop.
I first began downloading the setup, then it connected to ArenaNet to download data ...etc. Now I'm having fun on GW on my Mac !! Hope this helps, anyway, NcSoft should make an effort to bring it natively for Mac User
schuss
I'm posting here after having been confronted to the same problem.
I've got Parallels Desktop installed for educational purposes at home on Mac OS Tiger x86.
It seems ok to play Guild wars, thus a minimum amount of RAM is required for the virtual pc, i didn't mention I use Win XP SP2 as a virtual PC desktop.
I first began downloading the setup, then it connected to ArenaNet to download data ...etc. Now I'm having fun on GW on my Mac !! Hope this helps, anyway, NcSoft should make an effort to bring it natively for Mac User
schuss
Tachyon
Woah, thread necromancy is for the lose!
Aera Lure
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Woah, thread necromancy is for the lose!
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That, and its better than someone not searching and someone dropping in and saying "Use search!" In this case, someone did.
High Moral
once again I would like to bump this thread. with a update?
Anyone know if you still cant play GW on the new macs? The new emulators are pretty strong and so are the macs.
Can be done?
Anyone know if you still cant play GW on the new macs? The new emulators are pretty strong and so are the macs.
Can be done?
cerb
Hey
I'm playing GW on a MacBook (standard, not pro). It's running alright @ 20-30 FPS.
As for your questions regarding emulators, I have tried Cross-Over and Parallels. The first worked alright, but many problems happened, for instance some times when I would load an area the game would just freeze and I had to Force Quit Crosover & GW. As for Parallels, there were reports of GW running on it; unfortunately when I tried it I experienced insane graphics issue (<1 fps) even when forcing the game to run in DX8.
I did a lot of research about it and I resolved myself to purchase OS 10.5 (Leopard) and install Windows through Bootcamp to run Guild Wars natively. I only had XP SP1 though and Bootcamp REQUIRES SP2 (or Vista) so I did some more research and learned about a technique called slipstreaming where you pretty much copy your Windows XP SP1 CD and patch the files with SP2 files and burn it all/install. I followed a guide (you can easily find one by searching google) and everything went good, and now I play Guild Wars on Windows on my MacBook.
Hope that helped
I'm playing GW on a MacBook (standard, not pro). It's running alright @ 20-30 FPS.
As for your questions regarding emulators, I have tried Cross-Over and Parallels. The first worked alright, but many problems happened, for instance some times when I would load an area the game would just freeze and I had to Force Quit Crosover & GW. As for Parallels, there were reports of GW running on it; unfortunately when I tried it I experienced insane graphics issue (<1 fps) even when forcing the game to run in DX8.
I did a lot of research about it and I resolved myself to purchase OS 10.5 (Leopard) and install Windows through Bootcamp to run Guild Wars natively. I only had XP SP1 though and Bootcamp REQUIRES SP2 (or Vista) so I did some more research and learned about a technique called slipstreaming where you pretty much copy your Windows XP SP1 CD and patch the files with SP2 files and burn it all/install. I followed a guide (you can easily find one by searching google) and everything went good, and now I play Guild Wars on Windows on my MacBook.
Hope that helped
NeonXero
I also have Leopard, and run Boot Camp - just boot into XP sp2 (I hate Vista with a passion) and there ya go. I'm on a dual core 2.16 2gb MacBook Pro -- I get roughly 30 fps and it works pretty well.
r1ch4rd123
Im just checking that GW works on macs... Is that right?
Songbringer
Ummmm I am pretty sure it doesn't. Cause I had looked into buying a mac but I am pretty sure guild wars wouldn't work with it so I didn't get one. BUT that was awhile back so I don't know 100%
Kattar
No, as has been complained about numerous times here.
If you want to run it, you have to have a dual-bootable Mac, running Boot Camp or Parallels or something simliar, with Windows installed. And even then it may not work.
I'll see if I can dig up some links. Or you can just look around yourself.
Link. Knew it was around here somewhere.
If you want to run it, you have to have a dual-bootable Mac, running Boot Camp or Parallels or something simliar, with Windows installed. And even then it may not work.
I'll see if I can dig up some links. Or you can just look around yourself.
Link. Knew it was around here somewhere.
Gift3d
No. You overpay for a mac to be trendy, not for it to be compatible with 90% of commercial software. Jeez.
TheJokersWild
Aaaaactually. I play daily. And from the Mac OS.
A wonderful application called CrossOver Games uses a Commercial Wine distribution to bring Guild Wars Functionality in full to the Mac OS.
The "tips" Section on it says to disable shaders, and revert to dx8, but I'm running full graphics, no special options and it runs fine.
I'd recommend downloading the Demo and giving it a try. Your mileage may vary.
A wonderful application called CrossOver Games uses a Commercial Wine distribution to bring Guild Wars Functionality in full to the Mac OS.
The "tips" Section on it says to disable shaders, and revert to dx8, but I'm running full graphics, no special options and it runs fine.
I'd recommend downloading the Demo and giving it a try. Your mileage may vary.
Etta
If you insisted on running GW on OSX then emulator is the only way but like the guy above me said it's not 100% and you wont get the full effect. Bootcamp is basically running Vista or XP (Sp2-3 only) on your Mac. Therefor you'll get the full bang.
Remember, these days it's not Mac vs PC, it's OSX vs Windows. But on Mac the two can pretty much co-exist on the same HD.
Remember, these days it's not Mac vs PC, it's OSX vs Windows. But on Mac the two can pretty much co-exist on the same HD.
TheJokersWild
Ah no. What I meant was.. they Recommend turning off options.
I actually get better performance at a higher setting running it off of the Mac OS than running it while booted directly into Windows.
My Guess is that the video card is plagued by less overhead on the Mac Side than in XP.
The only downside to the Mac Side I've found is that you can't truly go Full Screen. Since I never went full screen before anyways, this didn't bother me at all.
Again, I'll mention though, it's running full speed (faster than on Windows), with full graphics settings.
I actually get better performance at a higher setting running it off of the Mac OS than running it while booted directly into Windows.
My Guess is that the video card is plagued by less overhead on the Mac Side than in XP.
The only downside to the Mac Side I've found is that you can't truly go Full Screen. Since I never went full screen before anyways, this didn't bother me at all.
Again, I'll mention though, it's running full speed (faster than on Windows), with full graphics settings.
Etta
^ I see, I only tried Wine a few times then decided to go with the dual boot option instead. I like to keep OS side for works related only.
TheJokersWild
Understood. And a good plan.
I was trying to get away from Windows once and for all. I'm close.
I only boot into XP now for 2142. All else, work included, is done through Mac OS.
The OS as a whole is just a more pleasant experience I guess.
I was trying to get away from Windows once and for all. I'm close.
I only boot into XP now for 2142. All else, work included, is done through Mac OS.
The OS as a whole is just a more pleasant experience I guess.
Tarun
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Im just checking that GW works on macs... Is that right?
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Snograt
Incidentally, I believe that WINE recently got upgraded to version 1.0, so anyone who tried it in the past might want to give it another chance.
Kwisatz_Haderach
Recently, I got a Mac for College, and I am wondering how someone would run Guild Wars on one.
I dug up a VERY (pre-factions) thread that hinted at the possibility that you could, but overall the thread did not sound very promising. It did state that Guild Wars was written with Direct-X, and maybe with the new Mac OS (which had not come out at the time the thread was written) you could make the jump.
If there is any way of playing Guild Wars on a MAC without installing a new OS, I would be greatly interested. Installing a new OS would be a last ditch option (probably on a portable hard drive) because otherwise I would not see the advantages of using a MAC in the first place.
Any Feedback would be most appreciated.
I dug up a VERY (pre-factions) thread that hinted at the possibility that you could, but overall the thread did not sound very promising. It did state that Guild Wars was written with Direct-X, and maybe with the new Mac OS (which had not come out at the time the thread was written) you could make the jump.
If there is any way of playing Guild Wars on a MAC without installing a new OS, I would be greatly interested. Installing a new OS would be a last ditch option (probably on a portable hard drive) because otherwise I would not see the advantages of using a MAC in the first place.
Any Feedback would be most appreciated.
moriz
you have to use bootcamp and dual boot windows xp/vista to play GW on a mac. at least, it will give you the best results.
Kwisatz_Haderach
Thank You, I'm going to do that once I get to college.
obsidian ectoplasm
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Originally Posted by Gift3d
No. You overpay for a mac to be trendy, not for it to be compatible with 90% of commercial software. Jeez.
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Tundra
Is that possible? I searched in internet and I could not fount that it's impossible but on the other hand I did not found that it's possible. m? 
Faure
Best solution i've seen is using Bootcamp to install wXP (sp2) or vista and then boot up in windows. I can even play it on a +2 year old macbook (though at fps15 max :P). Which means any INTEL based mac should be able to run GW in windows avarage.
Other solution i've heard is using the commercial program 'Crossover', but i don't know what the performance is like.
Other solution i've heard is using the commercial program 'Crossover', but i don't know what the performance is like.