No hard mode after finishing gwen?

Selket

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh

What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]

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I wanted to get double chest rewards from dungeons, but apparently we don't unlock hard mode after finishing the game.

Is that in the works or are we sol on that?

Wilkon Dawes

Wilkon Dawes

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

USA

Order of The Bladed Aatxe [ECTO]

Mo/

i believe there isnt gonna be a hard mode, because its only an expansion not a full game.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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I would expect it in few months.

HM is supposed to revive older content, which is kinda pointless with new expansion.

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

...Wait wait wait... you already beat gwen?!?!

I just got home from school!

Wilkon Dawes

Wilkon Dawes

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

USA

Order of The Bladed Aatxe [ECTO]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
I would expect it in few months.

HM is supposed to revive older content, which is kinda pointless with new expansion.
this is also very true a new skin to an old man. as it is.

julien

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

At Guild wars

Mo/

Yeah, when your a nerd, its kinda fast to beat the game

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

It's a quick game even if you aren't a nerd. Sure, doing all the meaningless side-quests and title grinds (lawlawl title grind ftw mirite?!?!!1111!1) will take time, but just like the previous games, finishing the main storyline is quick and relatively painless.

That's part of why I haven't bought it yet, to be honest. I don't want to shell out $40 USD for a game that takes 6 hours or so to breeze through, and less if you finished the preview. If only it was $20, or even $30... Hmmm...

Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
It's a quick game even if you aren't a nerd. Sure, doing all the meaningless side-quests and title grinds (lawlawl title grind ftw mirite?!?!!1111!1) will take time, but just like the previous games, finishing the main storyline is quick and relatively painless.

That's part of why I haven't bought it yet, to be honest. I don't want to shell out $40 USD for a game that takes 6 hours or so to breeze through, and less if you finished the preview. If only it was $20, or even $30... Hmmm...

QFT, stick to main quest lines and you can complete it no time at all.

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer
It's a quick game even if you aren't a nerd. Sure, doing all the meaningless side-quests and title grinds (lawlawl title grind ftw mirite?!?!!1111!1) will take time, but just like the previous games, finishing the main storyline is quick and relatively painless.

That's part of why I haven't bought it yet, to be honest. I don't want to shell out $40 USD for a game that takes 6 hours or so to breeze through, and less if you finished the preview. If only it was $20, or even $30... Hmmm...
The rants are getting better and better. You're saying you HAVEN'T PLAYED IT yet but still think the campaign is a bit short?

Agyar

Agyar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

AUSSIE TROLLING CREW - CAPSLOCK CONSULTANT

[Dong]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisa
The rants are getting better and better. You're saying you HAVEN'T PLAYED IT yet but still think the campaign is a bit short?
Because someone couldn't possibly be in contact with a multitude of other people that do and there's no way in the world these people could ever possibly describe their experiences during both the preview weekend and release. How could someone ever possibly even imagine they could find out anything about a game they havn't played yet!

It's just impossible!

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Or he could have bought the preview weekend for $5 and already done a significant part of the storyline.

Sectus

Sectus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Miss Meow Meow's Guild

This really needs to be fixed. Right now I think GW:EN does a rather awful job at being more content for highlevel characters when it's a ton easier than Factions and Nightfall, and that's made a lot worse without having access to Hard Mode.

I was looking forward to play through GW:EN in slower pace with hard mode enabled, but that plan was ruined once I saw no hard mode button after completing the game. And I'm not tempted to play anymore knowing everything is an absolute pushover.

If Anet doesn't wanna add hard mode because there's no vanquish or guardian titles... then add it anyway! I want it for the sake of challenge and fun, I don't care about any darn titles.

Kinn

Kinn

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Englandshire, England.

The International Association of Mending Wammos

R/

The idea that there are people out there that have already completed GW:EN, makes me feel sad inside

Hold me....

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Yeah... Regret is starting to sink in, I'm honestly not sure if this game was worth all that it cost, should have been 25$, 30 at most :/. While i haven't beaten it, from all the things that I've heard people saying ''It's short'' ''It was over like out of no where'' just gets really discouraging.. I'm not even playing right now.

Guess It's back to the drawing board for me.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

You rushed due to greed and you got done over because there is no 100k+ end game items (that's right, none of them will sell for 50k in a week or 2). Shame.

Have fun redoing them dungeons for that measly 3k diamond or that soon to be semi-rare Runic.


What is even funnier is people selling off their dungeon dropped Runics as "fresh out of HoH!!" as if that would effect the price in anyway.

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

I remember a system chat line that came up in the Preview that HM was accidental disabled and they were working on it?
Did anyone else remember this line that showed up while we was playing the preview?
Thought they did do HM for Gwen?

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

I played it for 6 hours, not even done with the asura quest tonight.

I think that if you actually explore areas, kill everything in all the zones, do all the quests, it will take a bit shorter then, oh say factions.

What I'm doing.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

I played yesterday for almost 7 hours non-stop... Done maybe 3-4 primary quests and I have only 10 points of Master of North. I just don't like to RUN RUN RUN! through games. That's why I got bored with F.E.A.R.. Because I played it few hours in a row and now I think that it's really close, while I was hoping for more than 15 levels...
And yep, pretty much you ruined your gameplay, as you will know everything in the game now (well, you'll the plot), so it'll seem boring to you.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

I didn't rush as some people like to say, but I did play it and followed the primary stroyline as I'd looked forward to new content for a while. It didnt take that long really, maybe it seemed less as I'd played all the preview weekend though.

The game generally was pretty easy IMHO but I was looking forward to oplaying it in Hard Mode once I'd completed it.
With there being no HM, I am pretty concerned that the expansion was poor value for money in comparison to the full games.
Yes, there are plenty of side diversions to do but there being no HM means it will likely be a place I dont come back too very much, which is kind of sad.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
You rushed due to greed and you got done over because there is no 100k+ end game items (that's right, none of them will sell for 50k in a week or 2). Shame.

Have fun redoing them dungeons for that measly 3k diamond or that soon to be semi-rare Runic.


What is even funnier is people selling off their dungeon dropped Runics as "fresh out of HoH!!" as if that would effect the price in anyway.
As you are a moderator, I find it kind of shocking that you would assume why people finished the game, not knowing them and "attacking" them by your judgment.
I finished the game as I wanted to see the main storyline and it was significantly easier than I expected and as such I found myself at the end sooner than I had hoped.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

GW:EN can be beaten in 6 hours or so I hear, however, only if you RUSH through it. I think all 18 of the dungeons take at least an hour, and are repeatable, plus the primaries, plus the minigames, plus the new skills for pvp... plus grinding for those who like that... PLENTY of stuff to do. I will admit that without the dungeons this game would be a complete rip off. So stop ignoring them because all you care about is reaching the end as fast as possible

I actually hope GW:EN doesn't have hard mode... it isn't needed. The game was DESIGNED for level 20s.

Prof Of Black

Prof Of Black

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

@ Sensation Black

Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az
As you are a moderator, I find it kind of shocking that you would assume why people finished the game, not knowing them and "attacking" them by your judgment.
I finished the game as I wanted to see the main storyline and it was significantly easier than I expected and as such I found myself at the end sooner than I had hoped.
Hey, thats malice, he's kinda crazy imo ^^
But also, straight to the point.

Also, I think HM will come in a month or so.

~Prof.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series

I actually hope GW:EN doesn't have hard mode... it isn't needed. The game was DESIGNED for level 20s.
I disagree that it isn't needed, and I'm thinking most of the people who beat the game in a day would also disagree with that. EOTN is every bit as easy as the other games,. In fact, EOTN is probably easier. Just look at the thread on the EOTN board of people who have beat the game already, it's unanimous that it wasn't hard to do. Therefore it is only logical to conclude that EOTN needs HM even morseo than the other games do.

However, I doubt EOTN will ever get a HM. If they wanted to do that chances are they would have incorporated it right from the outset of making EOTN, seeing as they already knew how to make a HM.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros

However, I doubt EOTN will ever get a HM. If they wanted to do that chances are they would have incorporated it right from the outset of making EOTN, seeing as they already knew how to make a HM.
I disagree. I believe that Hard Mode is coming for EOTN but not for launch.

Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
You rushed due to greed and you got done over because there is no 100k+ end game items (that's right, none of them will sell for 5k in a day or 2). Shame.....
Corrected

Also because all the end game greens are crap why would someone want to complete it again with there other characters?

peterchen620

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Lion Arch Guards

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az
With there being no HM, I am pretty concerned that the expansion was poor value for money in comparison to the full games.
To begin with... Proph, Faction, NF doesn't have HM until this year.

Just wait for a month or so. Things might turn out for the best later this year.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

So, what are those nedgame greens like anyway? Do they make nice hero wepoans?

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

put it this way:

Would you like EotN out 2-4 weeks out later WIth HM?
OR
Would you like EotN out Now With HM coming out in hopefully 2-4 weeks?

theres alot of things they have to get done,and i would be suprised if HM wasnt out 2-4 weeks after launch.

Sectus

Sectus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Miss Meow Meow's Guild

Quote:
Originally Posted by Series
I actually hope GW:EN doesn't have hard mode... it isn't needed. The game was DESIGNED for level 20s.
Then why is it so darn easy? GW:EN is definitely easier than both Factions and Nightfall. Since it was so easy I was really hoping I could start playing hard mode so I could actually get some kind of challenge.

I'd say all the new content "designed for level 20s" is a bit pointless when you can literally c+space through it all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
put it this way:

Would you like EotN out 2-4 weeks out later WIth HM?
OR
Would you like EotN out Now With HM coming out in hopefully 2-4 weeks?

theres alot of things they have to get done,and i would be suprised if HM wasnt out 2-4 weeks after launch.
May not be a popular opinion but I'd defintely have gone for the former. I would prefer the full experience at launch instead of waiting for small updates along upcoming months.

This reminds me of when Nightfall was released which also lacked a few major features which weren't released until much later after the game was launched. And I would have preferred the same back then, that the game main game was delayed so that it could have all the features it was supposed to have.

Just imagine how it would be with another game, I doubt people would be glad if a game like Halo 3 was released with only Easy mode selectable and all other difficulty modes removed.

Thermoblaze

Thermoblaze

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Croatia

New Dragons[NDR]

Mo/

think there won't be HM in gwen becouse is only expansion

but you never know

allience

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

i finished it in ~7 hours and i can't say i rushed. i simply followed the primary quest. when i got to the destroyer with 4 pugs and 3 henchies, we just went in to see what's it like. i didn't even have the proper monk elite and we ended up finishing the game.

maybe ppl just play bad and take a while to beat the game but that's not the case with all. the difficulty of missions was allright, but i think the great destroyer was way too easy compared to the lich, shiro or abbadon.

i wish the story was longer. i had hoped more things would happen and i was disappointed by the abrupt ending. i think there should be a hard mode or maybe something like an elite area.

Silent Coyote

Silent Coyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

E/N

I guess adding in time from preview I completed main storyline in about ~10-15hours, which is kinda short for an online RPG IMO.

I certainly didn't feel like I was rushing, and actually took time out to complete norn fighting tournament a few side quests and stuff. I prefer with these kind of games to complete the main story and then go back to do side quests (just doesn't feel right with the world in pressing danger and I'm taking time out to help some guy with his personal problems :P), so anyone who says "lolz u ruined your game experience" needs to shut up and accept the fact that other people have different play styles. I certainly didn't play through it for the end greens as well, seriously who gives a f--k? I have no interest in trading with other players or making loads of gold.

However there are the 18 dungeons, of which I have only one completed in my handbook (although I did do another one during the preview), so they will keep me entertained for a good while longer. However the main story line definitely felt shorter than even factions.

As for hard mode, I expect like others have said they will add it some time in the coming weeks/months, personally I'm not that bothered about it, but I'm sure it will make a lot of people happy. As for me I'm not complaining that I feel it wasn't worth the money, as I still have lots to do, I just wish that maybe the main storyline was a bit longer as that's the part I enjoy the most.

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

All the GWEN hate and whining is getting old fast. The main quest line isn't the bulk of the game, the dungeons are, because I think they figure veteran players are tired of being lead around by the nose through a linear story line (and then repeating it over and over). I, for one, appreciate that design decision. However, there really should be a hard mode. I hope it's forthcoming.

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
I disagree that it isn't needed, and I'm thinking most of the people who beat the game in a day would also disagree with that.
Show me someone who beat every dungeon, every quest, and every piece of the storyline in one day and I will agree.

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

I suspect they are seeing how NM plays out before setting the difficulty of HM

Scary Raebbit

Scary Raebbit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
put it this way:

Would you like EotN out 2-4 weeks out later WIth HM?
OR
Would you like EotN out Now With HM coming out in hopefully 2-4 weeks?

theres alot of things they have to get done,and i would be suprised if HM wasnt out 2-4 weeks after launch.
I'd prefer 2-4 weeks later, so they could actually fix things (online store/HM/quest bugs).

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisa
The rants are getting better and better. You're saying you HAVEN'T PLAYED IT yet but still think the campaign is a bit short?
I said I didn't buy it. I didn't say I haven't played it. There is a difference there that I think you missed.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az
As you are a moderator, I find it kind of shocking that you would assume why people finished the game, not knowing them and "attacking" them by your judgment.
I finished the game as I wanted to see the main storyline and it was significantly easier than I expected and as such I found myself at the end sooner than I had hoped.
Now, lets see...

Was my comment aimed at YOU? No

How did I come to the conclusion the OP rushed because of greed? Well lets see...he posted it himself! wow! hard conclusion..

And again with the mod BS. I am entitled to my opinion, like it or not. I won't sugar coat my words. Stupidity should be bought in to the light. You only help people if you indulge their stupidity.

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

Much later on, at least several months down the road, I suspect there could possibly be a Hard Mode or possibly something even better, and probably other surprises as well. But if we knew about all that now, they wouldn't be surprises, now would they?

If all there was to the game was rushing through it only to get to double chest rewards, it would not be much of a game and I would not have bought it.

More Outrage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yorkshire

GOO

Yeah! It was a really easy expansion and don`t see the point. Just run from A to B and kill that or this.....blah...blah...blah... Absolute Bullshit!!!!

No damn way did any of you do it that easy with just heroes and hench. So what you fail to say is `WE` as in our guild or my friends and we rushed through the primary quests etc. etc.

Anyway now you can all go away and do something else, just leave us alone to enjoy a game the rest of us enjoy.