Norn Fighting Tourney! Share you tips and tricks!

sagilltwins

sagilltwins

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Your Mom's House

香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH

A/W

So, I'm having a little trouble with the norn tourney on my warrior.

Anyone have any special builds that they would like to share?

Thanks

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

Most old builds that involves interrupting bear form are a no go now. Bison and all chars will just attack as soon as you enter ring. No more spirit spamming so easily, I can't use signet of illusions a echo assassin report build. Dunno what else to do to beat magni that easy any more.

Count Stacy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Charter Vanguard

W/Me

i tend to use the round house kick to the face.. nah.. i use summon mursaat.. and then i turn into a bear.. no joke ursan blessing.. and summon

Psychology

Psychology

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Inside your head!!?

Liars cheats and Thieves [Liar]

W/E

EDA
Pious Concentration
Dust Cloak
Mystic Regeneration
Mystic Sweep
Victorious Sweep
Lyssa's Assualt
Optional

Im not at my comp so i cnt post atts.


Magni only hits me 3-4 times with this,so he sucks.

i have problems with lukas,if he is the 1 with the stances,i try get him blinded be4 he can get auspicious started and after that it just takes abit of time.

Gwen blinds you with Sig of midnight,just gotta keep hitting and when blind goes ou have 2-3secs to kill her be4 she gets it back up.

You can take a condition removal for the optional skill,no blind really speeds it up alot.


Hope this helps.

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

I hear spirit spamming with any proff works good

jiggerjay

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

England

Curse of the grail [Cotg]

W/

i used a simple w/mo tanking build with mending and healing breeze, took me a few attempts as i would get owned on the 5th boss which was usually the 55hp or the warmaster with the burning arrow ownage !

the last guy was pretty easy with a simple tank build.

i think my skills were

doyalk sig
bonettis
deadly repost
dragon slash [elite]
gash
ever artery
mending ! woop !!!!
heeling breeze !!!! double woop.

lucifer_uk

lucifer_uk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Nottingham, England

The Venerable Truth [TvT] The Venerable Alliance [TvH] [TvL]

R/

My ranger just can't seem to get past Bison.

Thinking about going as a touch ranger, I guess any solid pvp build should work on here.

macke

macke

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Serbia-Belgrade

W/

Just Put Vampirism behind u

Great Noz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

Gaelic Storm

R/W

Ranger:

Use:

Burning Arrow
Screaming Shot
Disrupting Shot (or Savage/Distracting)
Poison Tip Signet
Expert Focus (or another preparation)
Lightning Reflexes (or Whirling Defense)
Troll Unguent
"You Move like a Dwarf"


Simply use that shout every time he purges himself run around the arena and degen hi with poison tip signet, might take 1-2 mins. make sure to only attack him when he's crippled. This strategy works for any char with ranged weaponry or degen spells. just try to keep enough energy to use "You Move Like A Dwarf". this also destroys other competitors great interupt =)

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Lol, for warriors I just used Lukas build along with Lion's Comfort and some enchant removal. I think I used Whirlwind, too. Noobin it up, I am I am!

Rizwan

Rizwan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

London

The Imperial Guards of Cavalon [TIGC]

Mo/

my one is:

Grenths Balance {E}
Bonettis Defence
Disarm
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Sever Artery
Gash

dragon spy

dragon spy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

csi

W/

axe:

Berserker Stance
dismember
disrupting chop
executioners strike
dolkay signet
healing signet
plague touch
grenths balance

this is a tought build to use well so be careful but use Berserker Stance to start let your adrenaline fill then let your health get under 100 hp. then grenths balance followed by dismember and executioners strike. use disrupting chop on his heal skills. dont forget keep dolkay signet on as much as you can. plague touch is to transfer blind or any other condition.

this is a tought build to get correct.

Elisa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

Crystal Gladiators

W/Me

I use:

[skill]healing signet[/skill][skill]sever artery[/skill][skill]gladiator's defense[/skill][skill]gash[/skill][skill]riposte[/skill][skill]deadly riposte[/skill][skill]bane signet[/skill][skill]symbol of wrath[/skill]

After a week of utter frustration at no warrior build that would work, I thought I'd try one last time with the simplest build I could come up with, which was this. And lo and behold, it can take on all the opponents! Note, though, that some need a little thought. Time your melee attack right, if they have defense skills up, trust Bane and Symbol to do damage. You'll do fine!

chowmein69

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

the spirit spamming still works , you just need to before you crossed the second line to go in , place all your spirits on that line but dont cross it , and onec all are set up , agro the person , and let the spirits attack him and use painful bond , if your fihgting a foe with AoE dmg it will be harder cause ur mobbing the spirits and they can kill your spirits easyly.

Woden

Woden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

W/N

I also get great results out of Grenth's Balance and riposte skills.

Wyldchild777

Wyldchild777

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

State of Confusion

Lords Of The Dragons Dine [LORD]

Mo/Me

Greetings,

Well, I posted this question in the previous thread about the tourney, so I'll repeat here. Is there a monk primary build that someone has used to win this tourney, as well as getting the specials (the 2 heroes and zho's book that I know of) within it?

A poster in the other thread, Kakumei, suggested that I check the prices for creating a 55 build, even after I said that I didn't want to do one. However, I did check the rune prices, and they were a whole lot less than what I remember them to be (I thought they were still around 15k each). Well, after using my PvP slot to go through the beginnings of Prophesies and get the -50 cesta, I started trying out the build.

I'm sad to say, however, that I can't figure out how to make the build work in this tourney. If I go shield of judgement, the interrupters in the tourney, like Old Mac & Joe or Zho and Onyx, defeat me. If I go mantra of resolve, then I don't have enough damage output to defeat others self healing, such as Mhenlo. I also can't afford to drop mending and healing breeze due to the degeners in the tourney, like Orion and Lo Sha.

What am I missing here? Is winning this tourney even possible with a monk primary? Could someone please clue me in. It's not necessary to give a whole build if you don't want, just at least tell me what secondary I should go, or if I should just scrap the 55 altogether and try a full health build.

Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777

Ahiko

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

Guildless D;

Mo/

I haven't beaten the tourny yet, and I've only seen Bison twice, but I pretty much used Ursan Blessing to get the two heroes even though it took me a couple platinum to finally face Kahmu in the tourny. ><

Crowell The Fallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Know Your Enemy [PMS]

Mo/

i use a 55 monk build and take Spoil Victor ^_^
Never loose. but that me... and im using a monk o.O

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lucifer_uk
My ranger just can't seem to get past Bison.

Thinking about going as a touch ranger, I guess any solid pvp build should work on here. Using a basic PvP Crippling Shot build, you can beat him without even being scratched if you're careful.

I doubt a Touch Ranger would work, your touch skills wouldn't return enough health to heal a 250-damage Irresistable Blow.

pkodyssey

pkodyssey

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a cardboard box with Internet

The Order of the Frozen Tundra (TofT)

N/

I need a solid ele build for the tourney.

No problem on ranger and monk.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

I used the two rit weapon spells that steal health when you take damage (one was elite) and that helped a little... there's only a few I ran into and couldn't defeat with that build.

I Mean I

I Mean I

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

in my guild hall afk

Ar Vin Pvp[AMp]

R/

I beat the tourney easily with my ranger with this bar
Burning Arrow
Distracting Shot
Savage Shot
Pin Down
Troll Unguent
Mend Touch
Screaming Shot/Natural Stride/Finish Him
Apply Poison

At Bison pin down run around and degen him to death try to interrupt purge, if you cant then troll and kite until pin down recharges,I only had problem with Tydus if he interrupts my Mend Touch but then i just dodge his arrows until I regen to full health.

Cherng Butter

Cherng Butter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Maryland

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

E/Mo

I used a Vengeful was Khanei farming build...

Riposte, Deadly Riposte, Vengeful Weapon, VwK, Heal Sig, Soothing Memories, Signet of Stamina, Dolyak Signet

I beat it on my second try, only because I ran into Cynn the first time, and she out heals me. Second try I had a bit of trouble with Talon, but I eventually spiked him hard enough before he could use Healing Signet. Wait for casters like Lo Sha to blow all their energy and start wanding you, you can whittle them down then.

Lt.Crumpet

Lt.Crumpet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Michigan

R/

for warrior: AP + riposte and some sword skills = win.

shogun avatar

shogun avatar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Croatia

Precko Boys [PREX]

W/

lately i've been having problems. did anyone else notice that opponents are getting healed during fight? (not using their own skills)

Jaceb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

P/

I can get up to bison on my paragon, with some "wammo" like skills "Finalize Restoration" "Mending Refrain" + "GfTE" spam but bison is hammering me down. I'm thinking that i need some Melee Wards from Earth & Sliver Armor combined - maybe that will work.. With "You move like a Dwarf" you can interrupt the bear form at the start of the fight if your fast enough. Will post my build when i beat him -.-

edit: as for the crowd, yes they heal but it's like a Gladiator thingy. Impress them by doing enough damage and they'll heal you instead of the opponent. I had one match that was like 50/50 but after a while of pounding, i was getting more heals from them. It's perfectly normal imo.

pkodyssey

pkodyssey

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a cardboard box with Internet

The Order of the Frozen Tundra (TofT)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by shogun avatar
lately i've been having problems. did anyone else notice that opponents are getting healed during fight? (not using their own skills) I heard a rumor that the crowd can heal.

Only a rumor, since I can't verify now.

Divine Slaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Young Money Merger [YM]

Mo/

I'm 100% positive that the crowd does heal you from time to time. I know that one person in the crowd along the right side uses infuse health because I heard the sound effects of the spell and I was healed for over 300HP. I get alot of heals for 180 also making me think that ZB is being used.

The healing seems random. There are games where I will not be healed at all, yet in others I will run around the edges and get a few heals during a game.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

I have been healed by crowd yes. Quite some heals of 180hp.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

I used (on my A) Golden Fox Strike, Temple Strike, Horx of the Ox, Falling Spider, Twisting Fangs combo
Crit agility and crit defenses is a must

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

I was using Moebius + Death Blossom (with CA+CD+WoP) on my Assassin... and it works well for most enemies.... but any serious anti-melee casters can defeat it.... and the likes of Norgu (Empathy) and more particularly Eve (Spiteful Spirit, Reckless Haste and Insidious Parasite) can completely devastate it.


I'm strongly considering trying my good old-fashioned Illusionary Daggers build to see if it works.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

Psych's dervish build didn't work for me (can't kill anyone who blinds because they just reapply so quickly; can't damage them enough in time)... does anyone have a suggestion for a good derv build?

Kain666

Kain666

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Bran - Romania

TIGG

Mo/A

easiest way to kill everything in Norn Tournament:

Elementalist/Assasin

12+4 Fire magic
12 Shadow Mastery
3+2 Energy Storage

Skills:
1. Glyph of Concentration
2. Shadow Form
3. Meteor Shower
4. Bed of Coals
5. Phoenix
6. Flame Djinn Haste
7. Dark Escape
8. Optional

It Kills everyone <15 seconds but Magni which takes 2 rounds to be killed.

kObstA

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

NY

XoO

My Warrior Build:

W/N

12+4 swordsmanship
10+1 tactics
8+1 strength
2 curses

Grenths Balance
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Sever Artery
Gash
Plague Touch
Envenom Enchantments
Endure Pain

Works like a charm =D
Only ones that are kind of tough are Eve and Sogolon.

and a tip to beating M Bison.. just run around in circles till he changes out of bear form then put a whoopin on him

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

I use a packhunter build with a ranger - spear/shield/pet combo works well. Using poisonous bite and blazing spear you can get a lot of degen, but the best advice i can give to any non-melee character going for Magni is:

You Move Like a Dwarf!


use it, stand on other side of arena, blast him away, rinse and repeat.

dsnesnintendo

dsnesnintendo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

chinese food

N/Mo

the second gold line near door is perfect for spirited no agro and they hit

noord.pyl

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

The healing dwarf, which is sometimes present, is located, in my experience, on the right stand. So if you locate yourself between the stand and your opponent, you are the one that gets healed.

With this help and the W/N-build mentioned in this thread before, i am able to win all the times.

sagilltwins

sagilltwins

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

Your Mom's House

香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH

A/W

hm... looks like this grenths balance build is the real deal....

now i needa go cap grenths balance...

knoll

knoll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington State.

[ToA]

W/

You get healed from the crowd from one person and it is a Heal Other, but the enemy can get healed from him too so it kinda sucks.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

To all the people who are talking about elusive healing, here is what it is:

The Dwarf on the Right side twoard your opponent is using Infuse Health and Heal Other. I took a Survival build in several times to verify this, and I've only seen this NPC do it. He seems to randomly use it on your opponent and you, which doesn't make sense because since you are both enemies and all NPCs must have a side, it doesn't make sense that he can heal you both.

This leads me to believe that this is a bug.

~Edit, Arenanet has confirmed on another thread that the healing is a bug and they are working on it. It's located in the Riverside Inn section.