please don't listen to everyone that complains on this forum.
GuildWars: Eye of the North is an amazing expansion to the game.
The people that keep complaining "Oh i played 12 hours and i beat the game already" really just have no lives. where's the sleep/ homework/ work/ friends come in? 12/48 hours on guildwars. huh?
well.. enough ranting on that..
This game is more leaned towards casual players. it took people 12 hours to beat the game.. but they had to do no side quests. when you do side quests it takes much longer. Also if you do dungeons. There is plenty of time to spend in dungeons. and they're WAY fun!
When people say "oh my god Grind for titles blah!"
doesn't every game have you grind? and really.. you don't absolutely HAVE to grind (for casual players) but people that beat the game quick.. Anet has to add in something for them. so Anet adds in grind titles so that it will keep addicts busy for a while longer.
but really.. it's not even that bad. Unless you find killing boring...
to wrap this up.. this whole point of the thread is GW:EN is a really great game so far!
Dungeons, New Storyline, New Heroes, HoM, New Weapons, New Aspects to the game, Mini Games, An Enviornment Better Looking Than Ever Before, And So Much More!
seriously.. it's great.
To all of you whiners out there.. i'm sure you probably want to come into this thread and complain some more.. but i'm asking you nicely. Please Keep It To Yourself!
Thank you for reading my book.
For Those Thinking About Getting GW:EN (Must Read!)
some_dude_91
Vl Vl D
We also had the preview weekend which could contribute to the reason why some people finished it so quick.
AydenV2
Reading My Book? That's a first.
I completely agree with you as well. Nothing but complaints about this game, even though it is by far the most fun I have had in the Guild Wars universe. If the hardcore don't want a grind, what in the world COULD they want?
HOWEVER... I was disapointed that there was NOTHING involving PvP added to this expansion... I mean not even a Random Arena map? That just seems like a gigantic oversight for a game that is supposed to be half PvE half PvP. Hopefully we will see a downloadable PvP expansion in the future? (a la Sorrows Furnace, only PvP)
I completely agree with you as well. Nothing but complaints about this game, even though it is by far the most fun I have had in the Guild Wars universe. If the hardcore don't want a grind, what in the world COULD they want?
HOWEVER... I was disapointed that there was NOTHING involving PvP added to this expansion... I mean not even a Random Arena map? That just seems like a gigantic oversight for a game that is supposed to be half PvE half PvP. Hopefully we will see a downloadable PvP expansion in the future? (a la Sorrows Furnace, only PvP)
Bankai
Whew. I was already getting mad because I thought this topic would also whine about how horrible GWEN is.
It's great.
It's great.
Pandora's box
Well dude,
After 2 years of playing GW I only want 1 thing: That Anet keeps off its sticky nerfbatfingers once a game -or expansion- is released! Because I really hate it when rules change while playing. This said, its obvious that what I read about GW:EN in this forum is not exactly encouraging me to buy it. But I'm patient. I'll wait and see how it turns out, and maybe I buy it anyway once the price drops in next years sales season!
After 2 years of playing GW I only want 1 thing: That Anet keeps off its sticky nerfbatfingers once a game -or expansion- is released! Because I really hate it when rules change while playing. This said, its obvious that what I read about GW:EN in this forum is not exactly encouraging me to buy it. But I'm patient. I'll wait and see how it turns out, and maybe I buy it anyway once the price drops in next years sales season!
Vanessa Dwager
If one plows straight through the primary quests I can see how it's over quickly. But theres a reason why there are secondary quests and mini games.
HDuarte
I completly agree with the start poster.
I'm enjoying GW:EN expansion more than I enjoyed Nightfall.
But everyone is entitle to their opinion.
Cheers
I'm enjoying GW:EN expansion more than I enjoyed Nightfall.
But everyone is entitle to their opinion.
Cheers
Well99
It is like any other game.There will be parts you like and parts you dont.I have finished the game as far as primary but have whole lot of quest to do.I enjoy quest more than missions so now I can have fun.The rabbit hunt is on!
onerabbit
GW:EN is amazing! i love it, i may have already completed it with one char .. ive, but i havent really, i got all the side quests, mni games and dungeons to do.
also gotta look out for farming spots =P
also gotta look out for farming spots =P
Roo Ella
yup Gwen rocks
I am only taking my time Exploring every part taking it all in
seeing what the designers put there heart and sole and imagination into
that they wanted us to see in the environment.
Sure some play it as a game to be beaten asap thats there choice
but to others like me it's the whole world to take in and enjoy
wherever you look.
Now the Killer Bunny Lair is another matter entirely. lol
I am only taking my time Exploring every part taking it all in
seeing what the designers put there heart and sole and imagination into
that they wanted us to see in the environment.
Sure some play it as a game to be beaten asap thats there choice
but to others like me it's the whole world to take in and enjoy
wherever you look.
Now the Killer Bunny Lair is another matter entirely. lol
BlackSephir
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GuildWars: Eye of the North is an amazing expansion to the game. That's pretty pathetic. "plz dont listen to them, listen to me, im right, theyre not, k?"
I like GWEN so far but the way you're trying to convince others that you're right is ridiculous
Maximumraver
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Originally Posted by some_dude_91
really just have no lives.
That argument is getting real old, real quick.
Zeph
GWEN is excellent. Without doubt some of the best content ever in GW.
some_dude_91
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
That's pretty pathetic. "plz dont listen to them, listen to me, im right, theyre not, k?"
I like GWEN so far but the way you're trying to convince others that you're right is ridiculous I'm just saying GWEN is amazing..
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks?
that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game.
I like GWEN so far but the way you're trying to convince others that you're right is ridiculous I'm just saying GWEN is amazing..
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks?
that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game.
Xitoahc
I think perhaps people had high hopes for some new features and were vastly dissapointed when things turned out another way. Which is why perhaps the great amount of complaints you are seeing are overshadowing the good remarks. That said GW:EN is a great game, but you can't deny some tweaks here and there would go a long way to making it more enjoyable.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by some_dude_91
I'm just saying GWEN is amazing..
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks?
that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game. If people complain and have good reasons to complain (and arguments too) then it means they're right, eh?
If someone doesn't like the idea of title farming just to get new armour then I guess it's called 'freedom of speech'
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks?
that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game. If people complain and have good reasons to complain (and arguments too) then it means they're right, eh?
If someone doesn't like the idea of title farming just to get new armour then I guess it's called 'freedom of speech'
yuna of spira
If you diminish people on the other side of an argument with name calling and illogical sentences (as Sephir pointed out), then youre just stooping to their level.
Personally I'm disappointed about the campaign as are a lotta people. That said, for me as well as many others its for very specific reasons. I do see some really cool additions that I think were well done such as HoM, titles, unique mini-games and repeatable dungeons. However I'm displeased about how it seems to me very little time and effort was put into weapons and armor and environment (landscape and mobs) skins as they pretty much all look like reskins of existing areas and items. I think someone thinking of buying the game yet wants to know whats the good and bad of it should be able to know. Im not coming out and saying "It sucks, It sucks," I'm just sayin theres a good side and a bad, and for what I wanted out of the game, I'm disappointed.
Personally I'm disappointed about the campaign as are a lotta people. That said, for me as well as many others its for very specific reasons. I do see some really cool additions that I think were well done such as HoM, titles, unique mini-games and repeatable dungeons. However I'm displeased about how it seems to me very little time and effort was put into weapons and armor and environment (landscape and mobs) skins as they pretty much all look like reskins of existing areas and items. I think someone thinking of buying the game yet wants to know whats the good and bad of it should be able to know. Im not coming out and saying "It sucks, It sucks," I'm just sayin theres a good side and a bad, and for what I wanted out of the game, I'm disappointed.
Ithil Tior
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Originally Posted by Maximumraver
That argument is getting real old, real quick.
Right you are. The one who first came up with "get a life" or "you have no life" should be shot. It's annoying as hell. It basically says "you're sad and I'm better than you" even though they know nothing. Gotta love teh internetz.
On topic. I haven't bought GWEN yet and I wasn't planning to, but this topic (and other things) makes me want to buy it. Would you say it's better than Nightfall?
On topic. I haven't bought GWEN yet and I wasn't planning to, but this topic (and other things) makes me want to buy it. Would you say it's better than Nightfall?
acidic
The thing that gets a lot of people is the cost to value ratio of GWEN. It doesn't come with two free slots or two extra professions and the price is at $39.99. Letting that go and comparing the rest of the game content by content wise there are somethings not up to par to the other campaigns. Armor for example feels rushed compared to Factions or even nightfall. Endgame greens are underwhelming and thats sort of expected. The primary feels short compared to proph and nightfall. The sides maybe the only thing that is greater in value over the other campaigns but that too remains to be seen.
Jongo River
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Originally Posted by some_dude_91
To all of you whiners out there.. i'm sure you probably want to come into this thread and complain some more.. but i'm asking you nicely. Please Keep It To Yourself!
Making sweeping insults at those who have taken issue with any aspect of the game, is not a good way to ask people to be nice. Besides that, you're right. GW:EN is an outstanding game - it's easily more fun than previous incarnations of GW and, visually, very slick indeed.
That doesn't mean there aren't issues that are significant to many, with some of the more peripheral aspects of the game (which I won't bring up here). Perhaps if those who are loving every aspect of GW:EN had entered the threads, where criticisms have been raised, a little more positively (without throwing around all the insults or arrogant arguments of the "that's just not for you, that's for me" nature), then we wouldn't be under the rather large cloud, that we currently seem to be. Players should be able to raise concerns about issues that bother them, without the inevitable chorus of "whiner"! That doesn't mean people have to agree, but those threads have tended to become rather ugly because of the attitudes on both sides.
That doesn't mean there aren't issues that are significant to many, with some of the more peripheral aspects of the game (which I won't bring up here). Perhaps if those who are loving every aspect of GW:EN had entered the threads, where criticisms have been raised, a little more positively (without throwing around all the insults or arrogant arguments of the "that's just not for you, that's for me" nature), then we wouldn't be under the rather large cloud, that we currently seem to be. Players should be able to raise concerns about issues that bother them, without the inevitable chorus of "whiner"! That doesn't mean people have to agree, but those threads have tended to become rather ugly because of the attitudes on both sides.
Lord Feathers
GWEN is worth the money and indeed a great expansion but yes there are things that probably should get fixed and probably will get fixed in later updates Anet has been very good about that. The only grief I have like you've already stated is the constant whining it's becoming a real turn off here to these forums but that's another issue. I see posts made about complaints, issues, ect. but if they were done in a more constructive manner they would get more attention probably and not simply seen as people bitching they didn't get their own way.
The graphics, story line, and game play were all top notch here in GWEN !
The graphics, story line, and game play were all top notch here in GWEN !
Mac Sidewinder
The thing that disturbs me most is that you can't say a single thing negative about GW without 50 people jumping on you. They insult you by calling you names then tell you real useful things like; get a life, go play something else, go away noob, etc. These forums are here for the purpose of discusion not insulting someone who has a different opinion than you. (Even the moderators do this from time to time, which really is a no no).
Besides all that I am enjoying GW:EN right now (though some parts are getting fustrating).
Besides all that I am enjoying GW:EN right now (though some parts are getting fustrating).
AydenV2
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The thing that disturbs me most is that you can't say a single thing negative about GW without 50 people jumping on you. They insult you by calling you names then tell you real useful things like; get a life, go play something else, go away noob, etc. These forums are here for the purpose of discusion not insulting someone who has a different opinion than you. (Even the moderators do this from time to time, which really is a no no).
Besides all that I am enjoying GW:EN right now (though some parts are getting fustrating). Welcome to Guild Wars Guru.
Steams me that this is the only major forum for Guild Wars, and its filled with nothing but Whiners and idiots, but we gotta deal with it, better than having no forum at all I suppose.
Besides all that I am enjoying GW:EN right now (though some parts are getting fustrating). Welcome to Guild Wars Guru.
Steams me that this is the only major forum for Guild Wars, and its filled with nothing but Whiners and idiots, but we gotta deal with it, better than having no forum at all I suppose.
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by some_dude_91
I'm just saying GWEN is amazing..
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks?
that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game. The difference between their threads and yours? Half of them give constructive criticism and are intelligent enough to hold their grounds with evidence to enforce their opinion.
So far YOUR evidence consists of: "Dey have no lief if dey beat da gaem dat fast". Proof? It's an easy game to beat if you know what you're doing and rush through primaries. You miss out all the dungeons, side quests and mini games that make the game more difficult and fun, but just ploughing through the story can beat a game very quickly.
Then I stopped reading after that. It's hard enough to read a "book" of 2 paragraphs, horrible grammar and spelling that even a thespian monkey could surpass, but when you talk out of your ass for the rest of it?
People will buy any game they want despite reviews on the game. 100 people could take the approach you just did, say "It sucks!" without saying why and it will be entirely ignored.
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks?
that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game. The difference between their threads and yours? Half of them give constructive criticism and are intelligent enough to hold their grounds with evidence to enforce their opinion.
So far YOUR evidence consists of: "Dey have no lief if dey beat da gaem dat fast". Proof? It's an easy game to beat if you know what you're doing and rush through primaries. You miss out all the dungeons, side quests and mini games that make the game more difficult and fun, but just ploughing through the story can beat a game very quickly.
Then I stopped reading after that. It's hard enough to read a "book" of 2 paragraphs, horrible grammar and spelling that even a thespian monkey could surpass, but when you talk out of your ass for the rest of it?
People will buy any game they want despite reviews on the game. 100 people could take the approach you just did, say "It sucks!" without saying why and it will be entirely ignored.
Farcry Deathblade
The good: scenery, storyline, and more intelligent mobs that actually force you to have a tank in your party.
The bad: the game goes quick...yes i understand it's only an expansion, but couldn't it be slightly longer?(btw i'm also juggling college, friends, and organizations, so i actually have a life)
The ugly: the reskins of armor, and weapons (tho i don't mind the weapons too much, since there's plenty of new ones...same thing goes for monsters...those dinosaurs are pretty sweet)
The bad: the game goes quick...yes i understand it's only an expansion, but couldn't it be slightly longer?(btw i'm also juggling college, friends, and organizations, so i actually have a life)
The ugly: the reskins of armor, and weapons (tho i don't mind the weapons too much, since there's plenty of new ones...same thing goes for monsters...those dinosaurs are pretty sweet)
Mr. Monk
Yeah> Gwen is awesome.
Government Flu
The game has great improvements and neat updates but also crushing faults and disappointing aspects that create a standard expansion. Don't expect anything horrible, but don't expect anything breathtaking either.
HalPlantagenet
For the most part, I agree with the OP. GWEN is an extraordinary conclusion to the first franchise and its evident that a tremendous amount of creativity and work went into it. The value it delivers is so far beyond the cost.
With regard to the armor: I think it's at least as good as Nightfall. With regard to length: it's immense and much more diverse than anything Arenanet has delivered so far. I expect to be playing it happily for months to come.
With regard to the armor: I think it's at least as good as Nightfall. With regard to length: it's immense and much more diverse than anything Arenanet has delivered so far. I expect to be playing it happily for months to come.
hallomik
I just completed the main storyline and got my endgame green. Notice I didn't say "finished the game."
Compared to the other three games, Gwen is light on storyline and heavy on end game content. I only beat the first 2 polymock quests. I only explored half the dungeons. I only brawled a few times with Kilroy. I only did a few optional quests. I didn't get enough faction to open one armor set.
And I have nine more characters to go.
I see EotN as a great GW extender. It has cool mini-games, repeatable quests and numerous dungeons to keep me occupied for a long time to come.
Does it have as complex or as long a storyline as Nightfall? Does it have easy access to end-game armor? Will you be able to easily max out the new PVE-only skills? Does it have an incredible variety of new weapons? No, No, No, and No. If these are dealbreakers for you, you should save your money. Otherwise, come enjoy one great game.
Compared to the other three games, Gwen is light on storyline and heavy on end game content. I only beat the first 2 polymock quests. I only explored half the dungeons. I only brawled a few times with Kilroy. I only did a few optional quests. I didn't get enough faction to open one armor set.
I see EotN as a great GW extender. It has cool mini-games, repeatable quests and numerous dungeons to keep me occupied for a long time to come.
Does it have as complex or as long a storyline as Nightfall? Does it have easy access to end-game armor? Will you be able to easily max out the new PVE-only skills? Does it have an incredible variety of new weapons? No, No, No, and No. If these are dealbreakers for you, you should save your money. Otherwise, come enjoy one great game.
evilkingsky
yeah GWEN is a great expansion. My only criticism is that most of the armor sets feel rushed and don't look linear as a set. Mini games are great, I wish they let you play them against other players though!
HKSdivision
GW:EN is pretty fun so far. I've been taking my time and just finished the Norn stuff a day or 2 ago and I just got done with the Ebon Vanguard primary quests yesterday but instead of going straight to the Asura area I decided to do a dungeon instead just to take a small break from just going through all primary quests. I'll probably resume the primary quests tomorrow or something. Other than that I'm enjoying the game while playing casually and not hard-core 24/7!
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by some_dude_91
I'm just saying GWEN is amazing..
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks?
that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game. Ad Homin attacks (attacking the person instead of the issue) is a terrible way to try to win an arguement.
You are just calling anybody who disagrees with you stupid.
Oh, and note, I haven't even bought GW:EN yet so I'm not one of those people who rushed through things, etc, so don't just try to insult me to win your arguement too. k?
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks?
that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game. Ad Homin attacks (attacking the person instead of the issue) is a terrible way to try to win an arguement.
You are just calling anybody who disagrees with you stupid.
Oh, and note, I haven't even bought GW:EN yet so I'm not one of those people who rushed through things, etc, so don't just try to insult me to win your arguement too. k?
iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by AydenV2
Welcome to Guild Wars Guru.
Steams me that this is the only major forum for Guild Wars, and its filled with nothing but Whiners and idiots, but we gotta deal with it, better than having no forum at all I suppose. Well, Guru is a cross-section of the GW community. I don't mean to be cynical, but judging by the behavior of those in-game, it doesn't surprise me that its forums are filled with whiners and idiots.
Steams me that this is the only major forum for Guild Wars, and its filled with nothing but Whiners and idiots, but we gotta deal with it, better than having no forum at all I suppose. Well, Guru is a cross-section of the GW community. I don't mean to be cynical, but judging by the behavior of those in-game, it doesn't surprise me that its forums are filled with whiners and idiots.
Hyper.nl
GW:EN is quite good. Yes, I complained a bit about HoM, but ALL the rest is great to me. And while I played many hours, I'm far from finishing the game.
I'm maybe half-way or less through the storyline and I did not yet do may quests. I did the primary Norn quests in preview and I'm doing the Asura stuff now. When I'm further in game I'll do all the quests which have good rewards now (Ty ANet) and then I'll probably work on titles, armor, heroes and all the other extra's.
So, in short: Imo GW:EN is a great expansion with a few disappointments and bugs. You see many posts about the bad parts here because people want to have them fixed. This does not mean that GW:EN is crap. It's everything but crap.
I'm maybe half-way or less through the storyline and I did not yet do may quests. I did the primary Norn quests in preview and I'm doing the Asura stuff now. When I'm further in game I'll do all the quests which have good rewards now (Ty ANet) and then I'll probably work on titles, armor, heroes and all the other extra's.
So, in short: Imo GW:EN is a great expansion with a few disappointments and bugs. You see many posts about the bad parts here because people want to have them fixed. This does not mean that GW:EN is crap. It's everything but crap.
Etta
Worth buying, imo. Not perfect and I did complain about HOM, when it first turn up. There're a lot of minor annoying little things here and there, it's not putting me off the game though.
I spent about 15-16 hrs last weekend alone, just taking it in slowly y'know, just about to do the ebon vanguard story line. You'll fine a lot of cool nice little touch in this game, graphics are just great, the difficutly is just right as well imo. Some PVE skills are just way over power, I love it.
Mini game are great additions, but the rank for the armor is just annoying, not that high to get but one of many stupid ideas in gw:en next to some of the armor skins. Heroes are ace, I can finally leave Koss in Istar with Melonni.
All in all a great addition, some people might not like it and will be put off by so many things in this game. Those who do like it and accept it for what it is, will find countless hours of enjoyment to be have. No monkey in this game though, sadly.
I spent about 15-16 hrs last weekend alone, just taking it in slowly y'know, just about to do the ebon vanguard story line. You'll fine a lot of cool nice little touch in this game, graphics are just great, the difficutly is just right as well imo. Some PVE skills are just way over power, I love it.
Mini game are great additions, but the rank for the armor is just annoying, not that high to get but one of many stupid ideas in gw:en next to some of the armor skins. Heroes are ace, I can finally leave Koss in Istar with Melonni.
All in all a great addition, some people might not like it and will be put off by so many things in this game. Those who do like it and accept it for what it is, will find countless hours of enjoyment to be have. No monkey in this game though, sadly.
The Herbalizer
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I like GWEN so far but the way you're trying to convince others that you're right is ridiculous
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Originally Posted by some_dude_91
I'm just saying GWEN is amazing..
if you look at all of the thread titles in this forum.. doesnt it kinda seem like GWEN sucks? that's because stupid people complain all the time instead of appreciating a good game. Stupid people complain. Intelligent people dont complain. Hmm. Well. I complain if anything is wrong in the slightest. I do it all the time. Ive got free loads of free stuff as a result of it. If anything complaining is ftw as you get free stuff. Complaining about GWEN will hopefully get some changes. Freedom of speech is essential. Elisa
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I've been playing GW for 27 months now and this is by FAR the most fun I've ever had in any game. I've clocked thousands of hours, but only the last couple-a-dozen I really felt I was living a story. The artwork is amazing, the storyline compelling (IF you also bother to do the sidequests, which elaborate on the story a great deal).
The people that whine are just people that would've been crying at ANet whatever they released. Check the post history of most "whiners" and you'll see it's filled with negative posts about anything. It's just a vocal minority that is never satisfied or thinks they know it all better and they clog up the forum with their useless whines. Makes them feel better, just ignore them. Kook~NBK~
I'm getting my money's worth out of it. They've put a ton of neat stuff into it and much of it is just plain fun. (I followed the rabbit
) I think they upped the humor a notch, too. Hunter's pride quest, the comments of many opponents in the Norn arena thingie after a battle, and some of the characters are a hoot.As for the negative posts, use your discernment to sort out which is "whining" and which is "raising concerns" and take them for what they're worth.
lacasner
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Complaining about GWEN will hopefully get some changes.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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milias
I've heard good things about it. I may get it. But again, I don't really have time to play anymore, which kinda sucks, but oh well.
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