ANet lost touch.
yuna of spira
I dont really have a problem with the grind of titles and things in EOTN, cuz theres gonna be ppl who play the game differently and at different speeds. But I do think (as is confirmed by many of my friends in game) that specific things in the art department of guild wars were lacking in terms of effort. At least it feels that way. Maybe they worked really hard on it, dunno, but i highly doubt it by the fact that we see recycled skins nearly everywhere if you just recognize it. Most of the dungeons have a recycling of sorrows furnace or UW, and the northern shiverpeaks have nothing unique to distinguish them by in terms of landscape. I used to take this part of guild wars for granted, but now i see that it was a big part of my enjoyment out of the game. who knows, maybe it was our lack of enthusiasm for great graphics that made anet figure that they could take an easy approach in that department.
Redfeather1975
They have to include Hardmode at some point.
Some people have pointed out that faction ranks won't level above 8 in normal mode.
Some people have pointed out that faction ranks won't level above 8 in normal mode.
Lord Juan
I disagree with the grind complains, and pretty much all of the OP, except for one fact.
God, why do they give Heroes such wonderful good lucking armors?, I don't care if they leave them with one set of ugly armor or if they run around naked for that matter, but they should give us that kind of armors U_U, even if they can't be dyed i wouldn't care U_U
Other than that, i have had a lot of fun in gw:en.
God, why do they give Heroes such wonderful good lucking armors?, I don't care if they leave them with one set of ugly armor or if they run around naked for that matter, but they should give us that kind of armors U_U, even if they can't be dyed i wouldn't care U_U
Other than that, i have had a lot of fun in gw:en.
Series
The problem is that Anet introduces high titles and no way to get to them except by grinding. I am very glad Anet put this out though, saved me money since I wont be buying GW2 
Bryant Again
What's really concerning me the most is how many of the respectable people on this forum are actually in agreement with this. That really gets to me, and says something.
FF-Paradox
All I can say about GWEN is I can't believe I paid 40 bucks for this... damn, I got owned. This tiny expansion should have cost 15.99, as clearly minimal effort was put into it.. Clearly they are working hard on Gw2.. EOTN was more disappointing then factions, but what can I expect.. It was only an expansion.
haggus71
If this is the way they are approaching the planning of GW2, I'm glad I'll have the choice of better MMO's before then(Age of Conan, Hellgate:London)
Tragedy_Strikes
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If this is the way they are approaching the planning of GW2, I'm glad I'll have the choice of better MMO's before then(Age of Conan, Hellgate:London)
Agreed.
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Bryant Again
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Agreed.
(12chars). Your name is sadly fitting to this thread...
(12chars). Your name is sadly fitting to this thread...
FelixCarter
Level 5 in all three of the titles is very easy to get if you take all the shrine blessings along the way and just chillax while you finish the main story. Any title above that is "unnecessary", but can be reached if you put your mind to it.
The armors for players... Are kinda lacking. The heroes seem to have all the shway armor.
I love the "universally equipable armors" that are now available. They need to make them rediculous prices, too. I might eventually get one, but they should be things you strive to get.
Chaos Gauntlets on Monks just looks cooler than hell.
Overall, I am very impressed with GW:EN. There are still alot of glitches, but they'll all be worked out over time.
HoM still sucks. I'm staying away from it.
The armors for players... Are kinda lacking. The heroes seem to have all the shway armor.
I love the "universally equipable armors" that are now available. They need to make them rediculous prices, too. I might eventually get one, but they should be things you strive to get.
Overall, I am very impressed with GW:EN. There are still alot of glitches, but they'll all be worked out over time.
HoM still sucks. I'm staying away from it.
Darkhorse
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I mean 75 Ectos for something that is simply going to make your hands glow?
I predict that this will be a hugely popular item. Hehe.
Horuku
I haven't even gotten GW:EN yet (my computer died the Sunday of the preview weekend, still waiting on new parts >.<) and to be honost, I'm not even excited at all. There's nothing new to be excited about. Wow...armor that looks pretty much the same as all the other ones...great...it still functions the same as my current 15k armors so why should I care about them? The game can apparently be finished VERY quickly, seeing as how it was beaten by noon the same day it was released. New skills? Are you kidding me? Most of them are generic and useless. Look at the warrior skills. They don't fit into any builds. I tried Grapple + "I Meant to Do that" and one skill is better than it...Shock. Monk isn't much better. Cure Hex? Wow lot's of thought there.
What the hell was the point of GW:EN? Sounds like they're stealing money from us. New campaigns lasted for a long time...brought new skills and ELITES to all the professions...hell even introduced NEW professions and armor that actually looks different. Way more than GW:EN...all for 50$. They expect me to pay 40$ for a quarter of what is in other campaigns? For a crappy story? (Seriously, the whole some power wants to destroy everything and we have to stop it montage is getting OLD).
ANET just wanted money. That's it. GW:EN is nothing. I haven't even got it yet, and I see no reason to do such. PvE in GW was already lacking any real bases, and without any PvP side expansion, well this is just a pointless addon.
What the hell was the point of GW:EN? Sounds like they're stealing money from us. New campaigns lasted for a long time...brought new skills and ELITES to all the professions...hell even introduced NEW professions and armor that actually looks different. Way more than GW:EN...all for 50$. They expect me to pay 40$ for a quarter of what is in other campaigns? For a crappy story? (Seriously, the whole some power wants to destroy everything and we have to stop it montage is getting OLD).
ANET just wanted money. That's it. GW:EN is nothing. I haven't even got it yet, and I see no reason to do such. PvE in GW was already lacking any real bases, and without any PvP side expansion, well this is just a pointless addon.
FelixCarter
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ANET just wanted money. That's it. GW:EN is nothing. I haven't even got it yet, and I see no reason to do such. PvE in GW was already lacking any real bases, and without any PvP side expansion, well this is just a pointless addon.
You only do PvP, don'tchya?
You can't see me
As much as I am dissapointed with GWEN, there are enough trolling threads on it.
I'll say what I say on all of them
I found the armor, the weapons, the minipet, and the dungeons dissapointing. I also found the dngame boss and the cheap tormented weapons- err, I mean, destroyer weapons, to be jokes.
Again, as much as I agree, enough trolling.
I'll say what I say on all of them
I found the armor, the weapons, the minipet, and the dungeons dissapointing. I also found the dngame boss and the cheap tormented weapons- err, I mean, destroyer weapons, to be jokes.
Again, as much as I agree, enough trolling.
Horuku
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You only do PvP, don'tchya? No, I PvE, but there isn't any reason to it. Why the hell are you going to devote 100hours of gameplay to get armor that just looks different but doesn't function different? How is that fun? You could devote that 100 hours to working and earn real money. The only reason I PvE is because it's one of the only RPGs that I can play with my brother/friends easily. But after you beat the campaign, which is very short, there isn't much left. At least PvP has the purpose of fighting other players. Even that has its limits. But really, no one cares if you have full obsidian with chaos gloves and req 8 swords. So why spend the time on it? And why release a PvE only expansion that really isn't decent enough to be called that? I thought this game was created based on PvP...hence the whole guild WARS. They should have at least added new elite skills, because there is just nothing that I see that condones FOURTY dollars. Campaigns were 50$ and you got a lot out of them...40$ for just more of the same old PvE, with no new PvP? How do they condone that?
Series
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FelixCarter
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Being a PvPer is an insult now on GWG? That's a good example of the state of the forums...
Who said I was insulting him? That's a good example of wha?
Winterclaw
I don't mind recycled armor skins... I would have just liked it if ANet made them as bonuses from the campaigns we got the armors from instead of one of the "featured 40". For all I know, the 40 new sets they were talking about were hero armors.
I really hope that ANet goes back and adds 40 new sets to the game as other options to make up for this. This is supposed to be the only expansion and they have 2 years to get her done.
Lack of HM? I think it'll pop up in another month or two.
PvE skill balance? I really don't see the point if it isn't a SB type exploit.
I really hope that ANet goes back and adds 40 new sets to the game as other options to make up for this. This is supposed to be the only expansion and they have 2 years to get her done.
Lack of HM? I think it'll pop up in another month or two.
PvE skill balance? I really don't see the point if it isn't a SB type exploit.
Mangione
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recycled Armors
recycled Mobs
recycled NPCs
recycled Pets
recycled ideas from other game
HoM deny those high-end weapons like DoA we got before EotN
Custumized Minis rather than account-custumized.
It seems: wait Guild Wars 2 ,you dude! To me,
it seems: we didn't want to work too much on those things, but we made a product and put it on sale anyway.
recycled Mobs
recycled NPCs
recycled Pets
recycled ideas from other game
HoM deny those high-end weapons like DoA we got before EotN
Custumized Minis rather than account-custumized.
It seems: wait Guild Wars 2 ,you dude! To me,
it seems: we didn't want to work too much on those things, but we made a product and put it on sale anyway.
freekedoutfish
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What really annoys me is that to get any of these armour you need to rank upto Rank 5! Thats 26,000 points in any of the titles and unless your willing to grind for a long time that ain't coming soon. Now think of doing that with EVERY character you want to get the armour with... But ANet was finished insulting us there! Here are the Heroes:
I completely agree all the armors suck, but as for needing rank 5 to unlock them. Get over it!!!
It is not a "long time" to get rank 5 FFS. I got rank 7 in just the two days of the preview and that is 56k points, so boohoo you need to get 26k points!
It would take a grand total of maybe 8 farming runs in one area, to make earn certain recial reputation!
Im really getting sick of people winging about needing rank 5 to get armor, when it takes absolutely no effort at all to earn it. GWEN isnt not that big a game, and its explorable areas are few so they had to make the game have more lifespan somehow and making you earn ranks to get armor was a good idea.
They also had to incourage people to earn these reputation points, otherwise why have 3 non-human races in GWEN? Imagine how empty the game would have been if we didnt have the reputation points to earn? what incentive would we have to do the mini games?
Making 26k points is nothing, considering you get 100-750 points from dungeons and quests.
It is not a "long time" to get rank 5 FFS. I got rank 7 in just the two days of the preview and that is 56k points, so boohoo you need to get 26k points!
It would take a grand total of maybe 8 farming runs in one area, to make earn certain recial reputation!
Im really getting sick of people winging about needing rank 5 to get armor, when it takes absolutely no effort at all to earn it. GWEN isnt not that big a game, and its explorable areas are few so they had to make the game have more lifespan somehow and making you earn ranks to get armor was a good idea.
They also had to incourage people to earn these reputation points, otherwise why have 3 non-human races in GWEN? Imagine how empty the game would have been if we didnt have the reputation points to earn? what incentive would we have to do the mini games?
Making 26k points is nothing, considering you get 100-750 points from dungeons and quests.
Bryant Again
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I can think of a lot of reasons to have 3 non-human races in GWEN, and reputation titles does not rank high on that list.
Quote: Originally Posted by freekedoutfish Imagine how empty the game would have been if we didnt have the reputation points to earn? It's nothing but a title track
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
what incentive would we have to do the mini games?
Money and loot.
Look I hate having to break down posts, but seriously: what???
Effendi Westland
omg I want that henchy paragon armor.....
FelixCarter
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I mean... I want Livia's armor. >_> freekedoutfish
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Look I hate having to break down posts, but seriously: what??? As for Asura and Drawf I dunno yet! Ive heard that Vanguard though, is alot harder to earn because of limited bounties and creatures and quests! In that case the problem isnt the need for ranks, its the way you earn those points. Anet needs to add more ways to earn vanguard points, and perhaps they need to improve how you earn Norn, Asura and Drawf points. Just because it is hard to earn certain points, doesnt mean the rank restrictions should be removed! It means we need better ways and more ways to earn those points. Make a petition to add more and better ways to earn points! But because GWEN is sooooo stupidly small, that wont be easy because you cant fit alot of content in. Had Anet actually given us the a map the size of cantha, like they suggested they would, we might have had more quests and dungeons and ways to earn points. But they gave us a tiny, tiny, tiny game instead! The issue isnt needing ranks for armor, its adding ways to earn those points. With any luck they will add hard mode to GWEN and that will give more bounty points! TheodanUK
I am getting concerned that feedback on EoTN is reporting very little story line, very few original items, armours etc and a substandard HoM.
If you consider that the price to purchase this expansion is the same as the original prophecies campaign, this indicates a really low value for money purchase. Expansion packs usually cost a lot less than their original games, so if I am getting charged the same as the full game, I would expect the same amount of content as Prophecies contained... Zabe
I skipped like all the pages of thread, read few first from 1st page so don't know what of these have been said but.. Stop the whining from armor title requirements. I got 30k dwarf points just doing the storyline + few dungeons. I got like 20k of the other points when i will finish the few dungeons im missing from my book.
The complaining about reskins are absolutely good, because I don't think we need to accept same pixel crap they feed us again. Perhaps the old armors looked nice, but who the hell wants bad looking reskins, srsly. And, hardmode is unlikely to be seen in GWEN because of the expansion already being for 20 lvls, yea sure, 20 lvl henchies and heroes. You can do the game storyline with fullparty of henchies + heroes, Some dungeons or last storyline guests you may need a friend to make it more easier, but it aint still hard. After finishing The Great Destroyer I were like wtf, we started this battle, what 30 seconds ago? Jesus Christ guys pls, can you design a game that will be somehow challenging? Make somehow challenging areas??? If the endgame dungeon can be done with 2 players and 6 heroes, there is something wrong I think -.-
SotiCoto
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I mean... I want Livia's armor. >_> And I want Jora... All 8ft of her. Wouldn't mind sticking her armour on my warrior either... but that isn't anything like an option. The grind I couldn't care less about. It is less than the grinding I'm having to do for Lightbringer (for bonus against Torment creatures) and Sunspear (for PvE skills) points...... let alone the Friend of the Kurzicks title track (which I need about another 110,000 points to get to level 3 on, at around 4000 per full area wipe or 400 per FFF run). Compared to those... grinding my Norn title is a walk in the park (already at level 4 and will easily get to level 5 in another area-wipe or two). I'll probably max it out for an extra strike on my KoaBD track. Same for the Asura and Ebon Vanguard tracks I imagine, provided I find good point-farming spots. Not so sure about the Dwarven, since that seems a bit hit-and-miss so far for good farming locations. And the armour? I don't plan on getting a whole lot of it judging by the appearance so far. I'm not particularly impressed with it.... but then there is enough other good armour to choose from with the other three campaigns. I'm not really into the whole "collect 5 suits of elite armour for 1 character" thing. I don't have the funds for it. Grinding for cash isn't fun. For what it is worth though, if I ever get around to it.... I might try re-skinning some armour myself.... making new textures for it, since that is an option now apparently. Ok.... so Gwen is substandard.... but it is better than nothing and the dungeons are quite nice. I do personally think that they could have made some parts of it a bit easier SO they had an excuse to put in a Hard Mode... but we make do with what we've got. Maybe at some point they will add a Hard Mode to it and tone down the Normal Mode (making it a complete joke, most likely). And as for the addition of PvP content.... while on the whole I tend not to enjoy PvP, more things along the lines of Fort Aspenwood.... i.e. storyline-related demi-PvP... needs to be added. Desperately. Give us PvP Polymock / Norn Arena / Dwarven Boxing!
FelixCarter
My friend has only played for two days - couple hours here and there - and he already made Rank 4 (almost to 5) in the Asuran title just by traveling to Rata Sum and taking all the bounties along the way (he also killed everything in order to make some money and got a couple gold items). I'm not sure if he did side quests or other missions.
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As for the Norn Rank, just playing through the storyline and taking bounties along the way gave me Rank 3 (halfway to 4). I haven't done any side-quests or missions aside from the 3 required ones for the Norn. But I have a feeling if I did do the Norn quests and missions, it'd bump me up to 5. Haven't tried the Vanguard yet. There's only grind if you ignore all the bounties. It's like the Sunspear Rank, kinda. Just play through and nab all the rez shrines as you go. Getting to Rank 5 should be pretty straight forward. As for Rank 6+... That might take a little work. Quote: And I want Jora... All 8ft of her.
Wouldn't mind sticking her armour on my warrior either... but that isn't anything like an option. Her armor's not the only thing you wanna 'stick' on your warrior. Jora's a big girl... Not really my type.  Too much of anything - even good - is bad for you. Or rather, is not as good as just a little bit less than too much.
[M]agna_[C]arta
One of the Heroes is wearing Reskin too^^.
Can yu see the Dwarf wearing a Mini-Judge Armor^^! Tijger
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As for Asura and Drawf I dunno yet! Ive heard that Vanguard though, is alot harder to earn because of limited bounties and creatures and quests! In that case the problem isnt the need for ranks, its the way you earn those points. Anet needs to add more ways to earn vanguard points, and perhaps they need to improve how you earn Norn, Asura and Drawf points. |
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Actually, its not. I've gotten over 10K Vanguard faster then I got 10K Norn so please, dont give opinions on stuff you obviously havent got a clue about.
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Make a petition to add more and better ways to earn points! But because GWEN is sooooo stupidly small, that wont be easy because you cant fit alot of content in.
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