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Phantom Gun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Minion Bombing in Elona

The Drunken Dragons [DRNK]

Rt/N

05 Sep 2007 at 01:42 - 1

Hi all,

I know some people manage to get golds all of the time, but I think that's not the case for most people. I would just like to say that this thread isn't so much about getting golds, but about such newb loot in a high level expansion. It's not just a little bit of newb loot, that's pretty much all I get. Not just me, i've tested this out with other people as well.

Here is an example.

That was my inventory from one of the dungeons. Most of it wasn't even max either. That example is pretty much all i've seen in GW:EN. I got 1 gold tall shield at a end dungeon chest, 1 gold piranha hammer, and another gold weapon that merced for 96 gold.

Before I bought GW:EN, I pictured going into dungeons, and making some money. I didn't expect to get an uber leet skin, or great stats every time. However this is just sad.

I also tried bringing lockpicks. All I can say about that is it was no where near worth the cost to buy the lockpicks. When you open the chest, a purple pops out, and then your pick breaks, well that is kind of a downer. Especially when it happens every time.

To get to the point, I think it would be nice if this lvl 20 expansion had better loot then that of Ascalon. I love the game so far, i'm a little disapointed in the most of the armor, and hate the fact there is so much newbish loot in this lvl 20 expansion.

I'm not asking for a gold around every corner, but a slight increase in loot that is at least worth picking up would be nice.

Thank you for reading, I just had to get that off my chest.

EDIT: Also name left in with permission on the screen shot.

T N Player

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Bay Area

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 01:49 - 2

i agree, the loot is newby and most isnt even max. i have only gotten 3 golds in GWEN, 1 was not even max. most of the items r not even max.

Brockweaver

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

05 Sep 2007 at 01:58 - 3

I would agree with you to some degree, however I have had better luck personally.

When clearing areas for reputation points, I have received no where near the quantity of purple or golds that I would expect.

I have however, to date received 3 golds 2 greens and extra map pcs (which I sell) and a black dye. This does not include chests and only outside explorable areas.

I'm working on the dungeons now and hopefully will have better luck.

Although, most side quests do give you a gold reward and the dungeons have at least one guarenteed gold reward at the end. Maybe this is their way of leveling things off...

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

05 Sep 2007 at 01:58 - 4

I guess this expansion really IS meant as a gold/time sink, but I was surprised at the non-maxed whites and blues that I've been collecting. Crap mods, too. Considering how much of it's on par with Hard Mode, it does seem slightly off-balance.

I don't mind too much, though. A lot of quests reward you with plat, and I'm not in a rush to farm gold since I'm not bothering with any of the armor.

Ravi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Average Joes [none]

Mo/W

05 Sep 2007 at 02:05 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by genofreek

I guess this expansion really IS meant as a gold/time sink, but I was surprised at the non-maxed whites and blues that I've been collecting. Crap mods, too. Considering how much of it's on par with Hard Mode, it does seem slightly off-balance.

I don't mind too much, though. A lot of quests reward you with plat, and I'm not in a rush to farm gold since I'm not bothering with any of the armor.

yeah but whats the point then? i mean i like exploring, and doing some dungeons, but what exactly is better about this expansion loot-wise? i mean take for example the greens we get for finishing the game... what are they? EXACTLY the same we got in nf and factions.. cmon anet reward us a bit, were dying here.

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

05 Sep 2007 at 02:05 - 6

for the most part the drosp arnt as good, but ive gotten to sued to Hard mode, so i could be wrong.

but on the first days of release i got 5 greens and like 7 golds

cliffchai76

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

05 Sep 2007 at 02:08 - 7

Yeah, I agree on the non-max loot. They tend to drop too much in EN. But I was probably luckier because I had at least 3 golds (excluding dungeon chest loot) during the preview and another 3-4 golds, a green and 1 white dye and 2 black dyes since then. So it wasn't too bad for me personally. None of these are from locked chests by the way.

TyrianFury

Guest

Join Date: May 2006

UK

E/

05 Sep 2007 at 02:12 - 8

I too have had nothing but rubbish drops since getting the game, 2 golds that went straight to the merchant, which came from an end of dungeon chest and a single green. Not had a single gold drop whilst in an explorable area and have been doing a bit of mapping/clearing areas.

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

05 Sep 2007 at 02:15 - 9

I guess we just have to wait for Hard Mode ...
The challenge level of the expansion in Normal Mode is *roll eyes* anyway and so are the drops ...

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

05 Sep 2007 at 02:17 - 10

considering that rep titles arent maxable atm, its only logical to assume that anet will introduce a hardmode for gwen.

im sure the hardmore dungeons will yield a higher gold drop % from chests. until then, well just have to wait.

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 02:18 - 11

Locked chests aren't worth it in GW:EN they are just normal mode chests that require a lockpick...they are on par with the Magma jungle at the begining and towards the end they are = to Southern Shiverpeak chests. THey just saved time and storage space for players....time by not having to create mulitple keys and chests and storage space by players not have to buy multiple types of keys.

I was under the impression that the lock chests were similar to Hard mode chest but Gaile set the record straight about that on her talk page.

I too am frustrated by the "quality" of the items that drop in GW:EN, it is ridiculous that non max items fall in a campaign meant for MAX characters. I mean 90% of the stuff that drops can't even be used by heros let alone primary characters. SO i have decided to keep my lockpicks for actual hard mode areas in other campaigns or for the release of Hard mode for GWEN. Actually i may even hold off on playing GW:EN until the rewards are worth it.

jiggerjay

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

England

Curse of the grail [Cotg]

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 02:36 - 12

i have gone through about 40 lockpicks today in eotn, and all of them bar 1 were purple, some not max.

i had a 50% retain rate on all chests.... i retained 2 in total.

thats it until hm comes out (if it comes out) i aint running any chests.

IlikeGW

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

05 Sep 2007 at 02:43 - 13

I beat it today. Zero destroyer cores since the preview. Zero greens. A couple dungeon chests - only crappy golds for me. Three of four rare drops total in regular monsters... and I've been vanquishing for rep, and typically get 0 rares out of 350 monsters.

In short, yes, loot is very, very bad in GW:EN. Mostly whites.

I did get a black dye, but all I think this means is it's about to take a dive in price.

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

D/

05 Sep 2007 at 02:54 - 14

Speaking of destroyer cores, i had about 7+ drop during preview in one quest, then not even one through the remainder of the WHOLE game after release... wtf?

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 03:25 - 15

I think I've had one gold drop not from a chest of some sort... maybe two and I've been farming some. However I'd like to echo what others are saying about the quality of drops in general and the fact that so far, picks seem to have a lower retention rate than they should.

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

05 Sep 2007 at 03:26 - 16

SWEET! I thought Anet just hated me. The drops and chests have been ... PATHETIC. Yet some how a few people are getting good items .. wonder if they have to pay extra to get on that list. I have been trying really hard to like this grindfest but come on the sea of purple has worn out its welcome.

fripple

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

05 Sep 2007 at 04:16 - 17

Perhaps this is the same problem as the missing destroyer cores, namely that drops were tweaked between the preview and official release by the item guy, resulting in a whole bunch of shit no one wants. I have to say I've noticed a serious decline in the quality of drops when comparing the same areas from preview weekend and official release.

maraxusofk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

San Francisco, UC Berkeley

International District [id多], In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP], LOL at [eF]

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05 Sep 2007 at 04:47 - 18

LOL WTF? during preview weekend one saw a TON of max gold eotn items, whether from chests or jsut explroing. however, now is not the case for some reason. i have beaten the game, vanquished multiple areas, and almost finshed mapping eotn. the funny thing is since the game came out at retail i have gotten 2 golds. 1 was an ax wit the tyrian cleaver skin. CLEAVER? if i wanted that i woudl go farm in tyria ffs. eotn drops blow. plz fix anet. thks.

ps add onxy gems at trader. i have not seem them there once, and the trader still pays 250g for them.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 04:56 - 19

Vanquished Drakkar lake, one of if not THE largest area with themost mobs (bunnies anyone?) and got zero golds...like 5 grapes, and a bunch of garbage. Oh, a map piece from a polar bear too, but that's besides the point.

Needed a new bowSTRING for my ranger's bow...had to go farm one from bergen. Why? Why don't I get any decent bow drops in GW:EN? Golds...maybe once or twice. When I first got to EOTN with my warrior I opened three chests and two were golds, but that's where it ended.

fix now plzthx

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

05 Sep 2007 at 05:03 - 20

At first I was all psyched, to see people posting pics of the awesome stuff they were getting...Sephis Swords, Highlander Blades, etc. Bought 40 lockpicks hoping for something cool like that. lol...let's just say I didn't get QUITE what I expected. My picks retained maybe...1 in 5 times or so. And when all was said and done, most of my loot consisted of req13 purples. Got 4 golds...2 high req dolyak prod staves, a req12 cleaver with no damage mod and no inscription slot ( >.> ), and a req13 cane.

No more lockpicks in NORMAL MODE for me....

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 05:05 - 21

Golds for preview buyers ONLY. Those of us who waited so Anet couldn't get their measly $5 a month early: hosed.

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

05 Sep 2007 at 05:09 - 22

Welcome to the world of Guild Wars. Serious the drops are so fubarred its rather pathetic when you add in loot scalling to the mix.

reddswitch

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

05 Sep 2007 at 05:13 - 23

I haven't completed EotN yet but Sacnoth has a ton of mobs. Don't really remember Drakkar having that many.

Once again I must wonder what my luck is like when I hope to get a gold drop when my kill counts in the low thousands while others are talking low hundreds. I'm talking about Hard Mode vanquishing in the campaigns and EotN. I've cleared all but 1 area in the EotN expansion I've been in, 4 monster dropped gold so far. Only asura lands and whatever the conclusion will bring.

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

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05 Sep 2007 at 05:33 - 24

I’ve had about 6 gold drops, all from chests, (none just drop from clearing areas).

I would say about 99% of chests for me have been purple.

Artkin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

RARE

W/Mo

05 Sep 2007 at 06:14 - 25

AGREE....I've been salvaging loot for crafting materials....and it SUCKS also....getting like 2 wood etc outta a bow that would merch for 100g.

Whats up with that!

roperratt

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon

Light Infantry Brigade

R/

05 Sep 2007 at 06:29 - 26

It's funny to read this because I thought it was just me. During Pre-view I ran Frostmaws and thought I had died and gone to heaven, 4 golds including a Q9 platinum blade in chest and 2 diamonds at the end. Since full release I've found a gold dolyak prod in a chest while clearing the lake area. Thats it, all the rest is crap. I ran Frostmaws again and did not get a single gold in all the chests. Lock picks cost 1500 gold, and drop much worse loot than a 750 gold margonite key. I really like the expansion, but something is seriously broken in the locked chest department. Someone will reply and call us all whiners, but if a pick cost twice as much as the keys in any other normal play area, the items inside better be good, if not then then we are being screwed. I found good stuff every run I went on with margonite keys, at least 1 gold every 3rd chest. With lockpicks in EOTN, 1 fricken dolyak prod. Something is wrong.

African War Lord

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

05 Sep 2007 at 06:37 - 27

I have noticed most of my drops are garbage, white non max items. but I've never made so much money playing through a campaign as I have so far in GW:EN so I'm not complaining. it's probably due to the fact that I'm clearing area's more thoroughly than other campaigns. since that kind of play is encouraged now I don't just run for the green star anymore.

for excitement though, some higher quality items would be nice.

demonblade

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Home

W/A

05 Sep 2007 at 06:37 - 28

i got an elemental sword from frostmaw chest, and 2 crappy golds and 3 diamonds, and not a single gold/purple on they way there... 3 times

Woden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

W/N

05 Sep 2007 at 06:49 - 29

I've gotten one green (Shon's Reaver), and a few crappy golds as drops. I too noticed the large amount of junk non-max stat drops. Seems odd, seeing as how those things are completely useless to anyone who is even able to access the GW:EN areas. I know not every drop can or should be purple or higher, but couldn't more of the whites and blues be max? Not a complaint, just wondering.

xcenic

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

05 Sep 2007 at 09:25 - 30

i get one damn grim cesta whit 13 req, and i dont remember what other sht from the chest of frostmaw....dude if you gonna go trough that huge pain dungeun about 40-75min..give us some good thing!!!

im will keep saying; anet is WTF POWNING US!!!

lvl 20 contain my COJONES!!

greyhawk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

IGN : Greyhawks Destroyer

guildless

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 09:31 - 31

i have had a lot of issues with getting good drops i have got a few greens (3-4) about 5-10 gold (one good one rest shit not max or req 11+)and about 50-60 purples but this is with 40 lock picks and lot a of dungeons, well and about 500+ whites.
when i am in a dungeon i have to bring a extra salvage kit just to grab everything, break down all none max whites

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

05 Sep 2007 at 11:38 - 32

I think that the drops are of Ascalon, but some are Northern Shiverpeak rarity. And I got only ONE destroyer core. With such drop rates, it should be 10 destroyer cores or 5 glacial stones for a gloves.

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 12:01 - 33

I do believe there is some method to this madness of drops....

I played all the way through all of the chapters and GW:EN and in each case I recieved one very good gold drop, just ONE.

In prophicies it was a R9 Falcion 15^50
In Factions it was R9 Zodiac Daggers 15^50
In Nightfall it was a R9 Elegant Scythe perfect mods
In GW:EN R10 Sephis sword

I could be wrong but it looks to me like they give every player one really good rare drop, but since most of us place warrior drops above the rest we don't count that one rare staff or offhand that drops for us.

This does make some sence given the number of people playing the game, it limits the number of rare skins keeping them rare.

If every player could expect a Runic sword or Gloom shield to drop for them the value of these items would be next to nothing.

That being said, ENOUGH OF THE NON MAX DROPS FROM LVL 28+ MONSTERS!!!

Jesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

New York

Vanquishing Memories [VM]

Mo/Me

05 Sep 2007 at 12:21 - 34

My luck has been so-so. I have used about 30+ lockpicks and retained probably 1/5 of them. All of those chests have been purple despite the one r9 Long Sword. I have found 1 black dye and 3 white dyes in my Primary Quest escapades. Aside from all of that most of my drops in the dungeons have been very shanty and nothing but white non-max drop. Mabey there really is a bug for loot quality O_O

tyche7

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Nebraska

The Killer Panda Bears

W/Mo

05 Sep 2007 at 12:38 - 35

For a high-end, level 20 char only, expansion -- the loot certainly is EXTREMELY, utterly, without a doubt frustratingly disappointing. I am very underwhelmed in this aspect.

jiggerjay

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

England

Curse of the grail [Cotg]

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 12:47 - 36

since eotn i have spent about 150-200k on lockpicks - absolutly pants drops.

once i run out of this batch i wont take any keys with me as its so financially not worth it.

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

05 Sep 2007 at 13:41 - 37

My kind of luck atm:

i do ocosianaly get rares, but almost 1 each day from drops (not counting chests)

shogun avatar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Croatia

Precko Boys [PREX]

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 16:07 - 38

Golds i got from cleaning dungeons (5 times frostmaw, 2 times cathedral) chests and completing primary: r12 dolyak staff (from locked chest), r9 sephis (droped during primary), r9 non max platinum staff (droped during farming rep). around 30 locked chest with 0 golds, dungeons droped shajt greens (offhand and hammer) and gems (2 onyx, rest diamonds)

But for what i saw, best weapons are craftable ^^ (asura sword, norn axe, dwarven axe, req str shield of the wing!!!, not to mention destroyer weapons)

Don't bitch about bad drops, crafters FINALY offer kickass weapons

gentrinity

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Colorado, USA

We Kill Boars [XP]

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 16:47 - 39

crafters offer Nice looking weps for 5k - true.

But where's the thrill of a gold drop? Currently i've gone back to NF a few times and gotten better loot.....

With my time spent last night playing -- 39 hours since the release -- 5 golds total.... 3 non max.... I stopped doing chests -- 99% were purple -- got the non max golds from those though.

I dunno -- mainly it's not the gold drops that are bothering me -- but the overwhelming non max white drops.... You know it's sad when you get happy when something drops....just cuz its max. lol

Meanwhile -- i'm killing groups of lvl 28 Jotun... and TRex's....

Sidenote -- but could the overwhelming dropping of nonmax whites be because everyone and their grandma is grinding out titles? While NF had the grind for the sunspear points which wasn't too bad-- seems to me that GW:EN is a lot more farm happy -- just because we all are not just grinding out 1 type -- but ... 4? (asuran, vanguard, norn, dwarf)? Just a thought -- but if everyone is out killing mass amounts of baddies.... constantly..... in all the main areas..... would drops be crap because of it?

White knight lord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ka-Tet Of Gilead

05 Sep 2007 at 22:12 - 40

Ok here are my thoughts..If someone spent 100k-300k on lockpicks well that is your prob, I would think one might learn a lesson after seeing the crap that they are getting.I used no more then 10 lockpicks and stopped because they were useless,I have gotten absolute s--t for my efforts in my time spent playing this game. Folks wake up call- Locked chests, lvl 24-28 monsters in every group (with the exception of the viettirs), elites on every foe? Those are three features from HM in all the campaigns..and you all are expecting a HM?! wtf is going on you want HM, you will walk out and die basically cuz then they will be 30+lvl monsters if GW:EN gets a Hard mode. If they do impliment HM (which I HIGHLY doubt) good luck to everyone. and some of these creatures are VERY over powered alerady, how can they do that much dmg with Non-perfect weapons (mainly refering to melee foes)?! There are a lot of people playing, but imo Anet should have expected that. So either too many people are playing, they are giving us all the items we have sold to the merch for these past years OR they are trying to prevent people from flooding the market with new items and trying to scam the individuals that cannot obtain them (such as they have done with mini pets[Panda, Isle Gaurdian,Oni,Naga]).

Summary-This is HM,Drops suck,Majority of the people are upset.