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OlMurraniKasale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Seattle

Zaishen Order

Rt/

05 Sep 2007 at 05:34 - 1

Hi ANet,

Please remove the 100 Gold Norn tournament cost. Polymock doesn't cost anything, so why does the Norn tourney? I really like the Norn tourney, but until such time as you remove that [stupid] 100 gold cost, I will never again play it. It's just rubs me the wrong way to have to pay when the other side of the mini-game coin doesn't. I suppose the polymock pieces might be the cost factor heh?

Bison & Alesia murder me everytime, despite using builds suggested in these fine forums. Then add 100 gold to that.

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

05 Sep 2007 at 05:42 - 2

While I don't care one way or the other -- 100g isn't much -- you make a good point. Why DO we pay for the tourney and not Polymock or Dwarven Punch-Out?

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

05 Sep 2007 at 05:50 - 3

100g is fine. Otherwise, you'd be able to recieve a Crown for free.

Think of it this way instead: You're not paying for the Tourny with Bison, you're paying for the Crown. Some people will pay 500g, others might have to pay 5k. it just depends...

But I think the 100g cost should be removed for those who are defeating the Tourny for the first time to get the skills and Bison Cup. Just my oppinion, though.

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

05 Sep 2007 at 05:53 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlMurraniKasale

...Then add 100 gold to that.

lol, talk about adding salt to injury.

Arren Knez

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

south of somewhere

Dominion of Passi [PaSI]

05 Sep 2007 at 06:30 - 5

yes please, i do it just for the fun of it and the 100g does add up, and if its a matter getting the crown then just increase the number of tokens of needed for it.

ember2inferno

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

Mo/

05 Sep 2007 at 06:44 - 6

It's just 100g. Sure, it adds up - but how many times do you intend to get killed before you win it?

100? That's 10k. Hmm, no one is going to lose 100 times.

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

05 Sep 2007 at 06:44 - 7

Sell tokens to make back money.

Woden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

W/N

05 Sep 2007 at 06:45 - 8

It can be pretty annoying. I was trying to get Kahmu the other day and I spent about 3k before he even showed up. Now that was irritating. Maybe add a 100g cash reward upon winning the tourney?

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

05 Sep 2007 at 06:49 - 9

For me, 100g is nothing. I mean you can gain 100g in no time at all, and farm some title rep at the same time

But yes it does stack after a while. Still the crown I just paid someone 500g for one, as it was completing the quest was interested in.

Jaf

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

United Aussie Warriors [AUS]

05 Sep 2007 at 07:18 - 10

IMO - the only bad thing about the 100g cost is when i forget the cash and have to run aaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllll the way to storage...
It's not too much of a hassle really - although some profit could be made of the tokens as said above

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

05 Sep 2007 at 07:36 - 11

Who is effected by a 100g cost?

1. The rich players with 1,000k in storage

2. The poor people without much gold

I'm gonna put my gold on 2. The rich players will never miss the 100g, the poor players will.

Koross

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Celestial Order

R/E

05 Sep 2007 at 08:08 - 12

So you think the fighters in the tournament don't get paid? You think Bison is doing all this for free?!?

You people think this life (game) is all about you! WELL, GUESS WHAT, ITS NOT! There are other people too and they need to feed their families. Bison got children to feed man ... show some pity.

Btw, its just 100g. Its not going to cost an arm or a leg. However, the fighters in the tournament can't be doing this for free either. Someone needs to call the Worker's Union onto this thread ...

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

05 Sep 2007 at 08:36 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koross

So you think the fighters in the tournament don't get paid? You think Bison is doing all this for free?!?

You people think this life (game) is all about you! WELL, GUESS WHAT, ITS NOT! There are other people too and they need to feed their families. Bison got children to feed man ... show some pity.

Btw, its just 100g. Its not going to cost an arm or a leg. However, the fighters in the tournament can't be doing this for free either. Someone needs to call the Worker's Union onto this thread ...

Maybe they are not fighting for free, but the 100gp a time does add up.

What SHOULD happen, is that if you win, you get the token AND 100gp prize money. So long as you are winning, then you are not losing.

Ferret.

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

05 Sep 2007 at 09:09 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferret

Maybe they are not fighting for free, but the 100gp a time does add up.

What SHOULD happen, is that if you win, you get the token AND 100gp prize money. So long as you are winning, then you are not losing.

Ferret.

That isn't going to help since the complaint arose because they aren't winning

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

05 Sep 2007 at 09:29 - 15

It is a quest.

Why should I have to pay to do a quest? I should be paid for doing a quest (upon completion... obviously), not the other way around.

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 09:55 - 16

Well you must consider the fact that you can get a 5 minutes drunk alcohol item with 5 tokens, why should you get it for free? I mean, there is a right build for each character, just find it and you will always win (except if you meet Mhenlo xD)

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

05 Sep 2007 at 10:18 - 17

Free?

How is fighting a hoarde of specially kitted NPCs one by one counted as getting things for free?
I work for my reward... and more often than not I die with no reward. The very notion that I should have to pay to work my arse off is ridiculous.

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

05 Sep 2007 at 10:22 - 18

It provides a disincentive to "play" in the tournament for pleasure and pastime - remove it, I say.

Fenrik de Arvis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

World of Players

R/

05 Sep 2007 at 10:25 - 19

Yeah, remove it. It is basically the only quest you have to buy for (except FoW and UW), and it is pretty annoying, especially if you just play it for fun.

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

05 Sep 2007 at 10:38 - 20

Given that aside from the gold cost, it CAN be rather fun (e.g. what they did to Alesia).... it is a serious disappointment that it costs so much over time (given that I fail quite a bit... usually against Eve).

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

05 Sep 2007 at 10:58 - 21

100g is a pain when yo uwant something out of the tournament that you have no idea if you will get,

fighting Zho, to get the book

or tryign to unlock the ritualist and dervish heroes,

then there is the green handed over by Zehtuka

getting that book cost me nearly 2k in gold, and i have been round 10 times to not have Zehtuka appear

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

05 Sep 2007 at 12:07 - 22

Mhenlo is easy

2 hits and he drops

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

R/

05 Sep 2007 at 12:18 - 23

Zehtuka gives you a green? I killed him several times but no green. Do I have to actually finish the tournament for it ? I never bothered to get so far. (And Magni usually turns me into little pieces of former me.)

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

05 Sep 2007 at 12:38 - 24

Maybe they can make two versions of the fight? Add a poor man's mode, available after beating Round One: Fight! once, where you can enter for free and play for pleasure and still unlock heroes/get Zho's book, but no token if you beat Magni.

Also... what's this about a green from Zehtuka?

I beat him several times and didn't get crap!

jiggerjay

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

England

Curse of the grail [Cotg]

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 12:48 - 25

took me about 3k to get through it with my tanking build.

its not a primary quest, i think the 100gold is to stop people farming the tokens (which has happened!) but the prices are now like 150gold !

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

05 Sep 2007 at 12:51 - 26

You need to beat zehtuka with his horn in your inventory (Nightfall)

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 12:57 - 27

remove the cost, i mean, so what if people farm tokens ? they spend time doing so, so why is it any different from farming anything else ?

Government Flu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Paradoxa Zoloft Asylum [PXZ]

W/R

05 Sep 2007 at 13:42 - 28

My opinion is this: Either remove the 100 gold cost from the Norn Arena, or keep the price tag and put the 100 Norn reputation point bonus back into the quest reward.

Personally, 75 points (6 rounds) just isn't enough for 100 gold. 175 points total would be more reasonable, as was the case during the preview event.

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

05 Sep 2007 at 13:44 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Government Flu

My opinion is this: Either remove the 100 gold cost from the Norn Arena, or keep the price tag and put the 100 Norn reputation point bonus back into the quest reward.

Personally, 75 points (6 rounds) just isn't enough for 100 gold. 175 points total would be more reasonable, as was the case during the preview event.

Given that I won't bother paying 100 gold for a Kurzick Blessing in Echovald unless I know I'm getting at least 4000 points out of it.... the very notion of paying 100 for a 75 points that I probably won't win anyway is just stupid.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 13:48 - 30

/signed

Remove gold price. I got lucky and got the journal my third try, but I know I got lucky.

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

R/

05 Sep 2007 at 14:02 - 31

Pfft.

Leave the cost there.

/notsigned

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

05 Sep 2007 at 14:06 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by malko050987

Pfft.

Leave the cost there.

/notsigned

HERESY!

Justify yourself! Forthwith!

OlMurraniKasale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Seattle

Zaishen Order

Rt/

05 Sep 2007 at 14:40 - 33

Thanks for the support guys and gals, and I wouldn't necessarily mind if the cost were justified by maybe being required at Level 1 Round, disappearing after you get to Level 2 or whatever, or something similar.

It's a lot of gold for 2 minutes of my time. I don't necessarily mind that Bison or Alesia slaughter me, for I know some minor balancing and a proper build (that just happens to slaughter every random opponent toon [lol]) will indeed work great - that's my problem to work on, but ANet, the 100 gold is your problem to work on. Meet me in the middle there folks.

Thanks, please and thank you!

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

05 Sep 2007 at 14:42 - 34

Let's see.. we have to pay 100g, and the challengers before Bison are out to beat you, which means they most likely paid to enter too. So there's no cash prize of at least 700? You paid 100g, and the other 6 challengers you beat must have paid 100g each.. and it would make sense if you lost to Bison, he would get the cash instead.. but is a Bison token really worth that much? meh.

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

R/

05 Sep 2007 at 17:18 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by SotiCoto

HERESY!

Justify yourself! Forthwith!

It's probably just a case of me not caring about money

And being contrary, I guess.

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

05 Sep 2007 at 17:54 - 36

either remove or cheapen. I admit I got lucky, less than 10 times both times I went for zho's journal, but as yet I'm unable to beat bison, and it gets wearing paying money over and over to get smacked down

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

05 Sep 2007 at 22:11 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

You need to beat zehtuka with his horn in your inventory (Nightfall)

Ohhh.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

05 Sep 2007 at 22:35 - 38

if they remove the cost how will they pay for your coffin if you die?

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

05 Sep 2007 at 22:51 - 39

I do find it starange as the prizes are worth less than even 5 wins in a row

And after you have a crown then what? Buy alcohol? can't you get same effect for cheaper else where?

brian78wa

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2006

Spirit Check

W/N

05 Sep 2007 at 23:01 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by ember2inferno

It's just 100g. Sure, it adds up - but how many times do you intend to get killed before you win it?

100? That's 10k. Hmm, no one is going to lose 100 times.

There are those of us who arent there to kill Bison either. I had to enter tourney 20 times before Zho would spawn for the Journal thats 2k for 1 char x 10 chars thats 20k. Thats a bit much you think?