Monument of Resilience and Dwarven Armor
allancue
I just got my Dwarven Armor set, but I can't seem to post it in the Hall of Monuments. Is it not considered "elite" armor? What's going on?
Psuedo Halgoen
I'm getting the same with my Female monk. I bought Ocher Sandals, Aureate Pants, Adorned Handiwraps and Gilded Vestments.
It looks like a set when I put it on, but the only other options I have at the Armor fellow are Chaos Gloves, Stone Gauntlets, Bandana, and Dragon Gauntlets. I assume that these are optional extra's and the set that I bought Is actually the right set.
I'm going to assume it's a bug, as I didn't buy any head pieces for my Elementalist and her Norn & Monument armor work just fine in the Hall of Monuments.
/meh
It looks like a set when I put it on, but the only other options I have at the Armor fellow are Chaos Gloves, Stone Gauntlets, Bandana, and Dragon Gauntlets. I assume that these are optional extra's and the set that I bought Is actually the right set.
I'm going to assume it's a bug, as I didn't buy any head pieces for my Elementalist and her Norn & Monument armor work just fine in the Hall of Monuments.
/meh
=HT=Gnard_Smasha
This is being addressed by Gaile and the Anet staff. It's not considered an "elite set" of armor, because all of the names are different. There is talk about changing it, tho.
Xitoahc
What Emily Diehl said comes to mind when answering why HoM does not accept the Dwarven Armors:
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The Dwarves have individual armor pieces that equate to one full set per each of the ten professions, although these are not meant to be a full "set". Rather, we meant for them to be able to be mixed and matched with other pieces of armor to create unique looks.
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Your feelings are understandable and it is regretable that HoM doesn't accept custom mixes, because the Dwarven armor as a whole is considered a "custom" mix as each are stand-alone pieces. Perhaps this will be changed sometime in the future as I know there are many people who enjoy mix and matching their armors. But I feel this is a bit lower on the list of HoM things to adjust at this time, but hopefully with more input of this kind we'll be seeing these kind of changes eventually as HoM gets adjusted.|
As far as the Silver Eagle set goes, this Warrior set was actually an armor set that was basically left over from our pre-production. For various reasons, full production never went into creating this set for all ten professions, so we had this particular suit of armor orphaned. We were faced with the choice of leaving it out entirely for the sake of balance between the professions (which meant that someone's work wouldn't go into the game and no one would be able to enjoy the pieces), or put it in regardless of whether it was a single profession set. Because we felt that it would be better to just put it in rather than stow it away and never let anyone have it, we decided to place it into the game. Before you guys ask, I don't believe that we have any other sets like this for other professions, and I'm not certain if plans have been made to make additional armor sets to compensate for the added Warrior piece. I'm guessing no, but I honestly have no idea. As a final note, don't think of this as profession favoritism. As I mentioned before, this was basically a concept set that just happened to be left over that we decided to toss into the game, and no conscious thought was put into adding this for Warriors and not for other professions. Hopefully that answers your inquiry.
Endow Gee
Wow! I spend all that gold and Materials to buy this armor and its not even an ELITE? I want refund!!
I just hope they make this armor elite due to the armor value!
AnnaCloud9
Elite armors have always been specified by their price tags, unfortunately. Anything less than 15K, as a price per piece, isn't considered elite.
hybrid114
HoM takes my Ancient set I assume it takes the other 10k sets from NF to dont see why it shouldnt take that set either since it costs the same. Anyway moving on...
Originally Posted by Xitoahc
Quote: What Emily Diehl said comes to mind when answering why HoM does not accept the Dwarven Armors:
As such, HoM cannot accept these as they were meant for mix and match sets and not as a whole set. They are as addable as the Magma Gloves or the Blindfold, what could be done as a recompense would be to add the Eagle set for all other professions whoever that was also answered in the same place I got this quote: As far as the Silver Eagle set goes, this Warrior set was actually an armor set that was basically left over from our pre-production. For various reasons, full production never went into creating this set for all ten professions, so we had this particular suit of armor orphaned. We were faced with the choice of leaving it out entirely for the sake of balance between the professions (which meant that someone's work wouldn't go into the game and no one would be able to enjoy the pieces), or put it in regardless of whether it was a single profession set. Because we felt that it would be better to just put it in rather than stow it away and never let anyone have it, we decided to place it into the game. Before you guys ask, I don't believe that we have any other sets like this for other professions, and I'm not certain if plans have been made to make additional armor sets to compensate for the added Warrior piece. I'm guessing no, but I honestly have no idea. As a final note, don't think of this as profession favoritism. As I mentioned before, this was basically a concept set that just happened to be left over that we decided to toss into the game, and no conscious thought was put into adding this for Warriors and not for other professions. Hopefully that answers your inquiry. Its a shame every Dwarven set looks incredibly ugly imo and doesnt look any better then pieced with the collectors items. Infact the collectors items dont go well with anything. Silver Eagle with the exception of a few select sets (Norn Ranger) is the best looking (Even if it is a re-skin but what isnt today?) so whoever designed it needs to get re-hired and finish the job. IMO with all the negativity flying around about GWEN if they fixed the armor and weapons monuments in HoM and added Silver Eagle for the rest of the classes a lot of people would be a lot more happier and pleased.
WinterSnowblind
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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
Elite armors have always been specified by their price tags, unfortunately. Anything less than 15K, as a price per piece, isn't considered elite.
What about the Ancient armour? That goes into the HoM fine. And what about the Vabbian, technically, it's only 5k. I believe most of the other new GW:EN armour does too. The only problem seems to be with the Dwarven, due to the names of the pieces and the missing parts for a lot of the classes.
Xitoahc
The missing parts are intentional in my honest opinion, this was never meant to be a full set, although some of the piece do fit well together. The only exception to this would be the Eagle Armor which I'm not sure is addable to the HoM or not, and if not that most certainly is a bug. The addition of Dwarven armor itself is not, they'd have to create a way to show off your stand-alone Gauntlets and Headgear as well if they did that.
Metal Herc
Ya, as a warrior my Silver Eagle armor is not addable to the HOM. I had no clue there wasnt an equivalent for the other classes. That really sucks. Seems kinda like the dwarven was half-assed.
Ahiko
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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
Elite armors have always been specified by their price tags, unfortunately. Anything less than 15K, as a price per piece, isn't considered elite.
The Labyrinthine armor in Marhan's Grotto goes for 8k a piece, but the materials include 400 Rolls of Vellum making it come out to about 80-100k for the whole set. I haven't tried it in the HoM, but I'm pretty sure it's an Elite/Prestige armor as the Wikis say it is.
Luciora
So last night I buy my first set of GW:EN armour from the dwarves. Looks pretty cool as far as male ele armours go. So I head off to the HoM to add it and discover, as many others have, that it is not "elite".
Now the excuse given about this being a set to use with matching with other armours is unacceptable to me. It certainly looks like a complete set to me! Price can't be the determining factor either since NF had cheap armour and sorry to say, far worse looking, yet they are allowed? Please ANET, allow us to add the full dwarven armour to the HoM, I've spent a lot of hours collecting every armour set in the game and I'd like to have this set in there as well.
Reflect
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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
Elite armors have always been specified by their price tags, unfortunately. Anything less than 15K, as a price per piece, isn't considered elite.
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Vabbian is 5k per piece and only FoW is leeter than it am i not right??
Xitoahc
Again this isn't a matter of it being considered an elite armor or not, if anything they are part of the "elite" stand-alone piecesadvertised, to mix and match with your other armors. This was implemented partially to cater to those who like to combo their armors giving them unique pieces to work with. Although some seem to fit well together, you'll get the cases where it doesn't.
Hopefully if enough input is gathered from the community, the Art Team will reconsider their stand on the Eagle Armor being implemented for the other nine classes, which in turn allows them to have a fourth armor to add to the HoM.
silz
I can confirm that the Warrior Silver Eagle armor can not currently be added to the HoM.
Whilst I undertsand the issue of the so called "mixed" dwarven sets, the Eagle Armor is a complete set, obtained in GW:EN a lvl 20 expansion. I stress I can understand the reasoning anet are using, but that doesnt mean I agree with it. I used this as an example and sent in a support request asking if the inability to add Silver Eagle to the HoM was an error or oversight. Guess what? I got the generic reply that NCSoft had invested time in putting together the official wiki, to check there for an answer, if the answer wasnt there, go check with the fan forums, if the answer wasnt on a fan site, I should ask my question in the forums *rofl*. Well, the answer isnt anywhere right now on the Silver Eagle armor On the one hand they seem to be saying only complete high end sets (ie hands, torso, legs, and feet) bearing the same name can be added to the monument, yet they exclude the armor from the "end game" area from being added (whether or not its a complete set). As far as i can make out the Norn, Vanguard and Asuran sets can be added (not that I have bought them yet), so why can't the dwarvern sets when you have nearly compelted the game to be able to get to the armor crafter? rangersaurus
I keep seeing these posts saying that Dwarven armor doesn't show in HoM, but there is little mention of the other types, so I was wondering if it was just a bug with the dwarven armor. Is this the same with Vanguard armor? What about the different headgear, like blindfolds or bandanas?
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by silz
I can confirm that the Warrior Silver Eagle armor can not currently be added to the HoM.
Whilst I undertsand the issue of the so called "mixed" dwarven sets, the Eagle Armor is a complete set, obtained in GW:EN a lvl 20 expansion. I stress I can understand the reasoning anet are using, but that doesnt mean I agree with it. I used this as an example and sent in a support request asking if the inability to add Silver Eagle to the HoM was an error or oversight. Guess what? I got the generic reply that NCSoft had invested time in putting together the official wiki, to check there for an answer, if the answer wasnt there, go check with the fan forums, if the answer wasnt on a fan site, I should ask my question in the forums *rofl*. Well, the answer isnt anywhere right now on the Silver Eagle armor On the one hand they seem to be saying only complete high end sets (ie hands, torso, legs, and feet) bearing the same name can be added to the monument, yet they exclude the armor from the "end game" area from being added (whether or not its a complete set). As far as i can make out the Norn, Vanguard and Asuran sets can be added (not that I have bought them yet), so why can't the dwarvern sets when you have nearly compelted the game to be able to get to the armor crafter? Yeah, support has been a joke for a while now. They just point everyone away from their offices and straight to the fan sites. Talk about customer service.
cthulhu reborn
Well the dwarven armours aren't sets of armour....they're just randomly thrown together armour items.
That is what needs fixing....you save the world and then you have to grind to get....rags. Except warriors of course...they get an armour set, though it is an ugly set...it almost looked nice...
Sihaya Syme
They should start fixing this crap FAST -_- I think the easiest would be to design Silver Eagle sets for all professions, to make things fair, make it so that you can add that set, and just leave the mix and match pieces.
Luciora
If the Dwarven "rags" really is just a bunch of things left over then why on earth have the rep requirement for it?
Why allow each of the other races a set and then skimp on the dwarves? Is there some dwarven hatred going on at ANET?
silz
@Luciora,
I can only speak having played my Warrior playing thorough GW:EN (I do have another 11 chars including one of each profession at lvl 20). Did they skimp on the Dwarven? Well it seems the Silver Eagle was a "left over" from design concepts that they added in anyway simply because they had the art work for the warrior. For the other professions, no concept art currently exists. I guess to balance things, they then decided that the full Warrior Silver Eagle set would equate to the rest of the "mix and match" items in the Central Chamber, and as such there was a conscious decision to not allow it in the HoM. If that is the case, then I agree the requirement for lvl 5 dwarven seems out of balance. All the other race tracks require lvl 5 for the armor, but you can add that to the HoM (from what I have read) Heck, the dwarven armor crafter has some of the most expensive individual items of armor in the game (read: nice glowing hands/gloves), one would have thought that anything crafted by these NPC's would warrant a place in the HoM. Regretably at this point, this is seemingly not the case, although they are "looking into it". Is there Dwarven hatred? I don't think so, just a [misguided] notion that they are sticking to their design parameters, namely that a full set of armor by the same name at elite level is required for the HoM. The individual items, by individual names, available in the central chamber do not meet this rule set in general, and so they rule out the Silver Eagle, just to be fair across all professions (ie, why should the Warriors get an additonal HoM set compared to the other professions - which I can understand) @Sihaya, I'm sure the response will be that designing armor takes time, and Silver Eagle Armor would be required for 9 more professions. If they do it, and add Silver Eagle to the list viable for the HoM, I'm happy. However as it stands, I just wish they had said "btw the Warrior Silver Eagle set does not count for HoM" before a number of us invested in it as what appears to be a FULL SET of end game armor in GW:EN
Gonzo
I bought Dwarven armor for my female ranger as it's the only armor in GW:EN I actually like and the fact that I wanted another set displayed in my ranger's HoM played a part in buying the set, which is by far the most expansive set I bought because of the dragon gloves. So imagine my disapointment when the HoM did not accept it. Even with different names, it's still 4 pieces of armor from the same armor guy and it's the closest to end-game armor GW:EN comes. I feel it should be displayed.
scottyboysn
Gotta say I'm pretty upset. I blew a lot of money on this to not see it in my HoM. If it isn't going to be added, I'd like to see the price dropped to 1k and get my money back=P
allancue
What a waste. Just another reason to hate this expansion.
Mordakai
I can see the point of this being "false advertising."
We were told GWEN had 40 new sets of armor... Skipping the argument of reskins being new or not, even Anet admits Dwarven armor is not a set... They owe us 9 sets of armor. If Anet would add 10 sets of unique, end game armor to GWEN I think many people will overlook the rest of the problems.
street peddler
dwarven isnt a complete set, it's just more armor pieces for further armor mix-matching.
And warriors only got silver eagle because it was left over and they felt it would be a waste if they didnt just release it. littlejay
70k spent cuz it was the first crafter unlocked, and what? no HoM :/ the sets match fairly well, why have all this armor in one spot if its not full? spread it out some anet <_<
Siirius Black
Ok. So to be clear...
what sets of Armor are considered to be Elite and will display in HoM????
Mordakai
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Ok. So to be clear...
what sets of Armor are considered to be Elite and will display in HoM???? Any armor set 5k or over, except the Dwarf sets because they are not really sets, even the Eagle (apparently). Anet should fix this, obviously, and/or add new armor to make GWEN have 40 sets.
thunderai
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Any armor set 5k or over, except the Dwarf sets because they are not really sets, even the Eagle (apparently).
Anet should fix this, obviously, and/or add new armor to make GWEN have 40 sets. The only reason I purchased the Dwarf armor was to put it in HoM. It is ugly as sin and well I want a refund. If they can refund gems for Razza, they certaly can take my dwarf armor back and give me my 70k back so I can spend it on something more HoM worthly. Why still the dwarf anyway, they are the main reason we won against the destoryers. If I was now made of stone, I would want STONE F'n armor
Xitoahc
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Originally Posted by thunderai
The only reason I purchased the Dwarf armor was to put it in HoM. It is ugly as sin and well I want a refund. If they can refund gems for Razza, they certaly can take my dwarf armor back and give me my 70k back so I can spend it on something more HoM worthly.
Why still the dwarf anyway, they are the main reason we won against the destoryers. If I was now made of stone, I would want STONE F'n armor These kind of reasons don't have any substance, it's basically "I spent money on an armor I didn't like and took a chance, now I want my money back for gambling with my own money." Why on earth people would buy armor just because they have the gold and still hate it is beyond me, but these kind of reasons aren't giving any constructive feedback to Anet.
thunderai
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Originally Posted by Xitoahc
These kind of reasons don't have any substance, it's basically "I spent money on an armor I didn't like and took a chance, now I want my money back for gambling with my own money." Why on earth people would buy armor just because they have the gold and still hate it is beyond me, but these kind of reasons aren't giving any constructive feedback to Anet.
ok let me try this a different way, while looking at the wiki to see what type of armor i would like to buy I thought the dwarf armor looked pretty good. I have three other sets of armor currently in the HoM and I really wanted to add another one. I only ware my 1.5k Kurzic set as i like it the most. The armor I was buying was only for the HoM as I would never actually rune it or ware it.
In this real way I was robbed 70k as there is no reason why dwarf armor would not be considered elite. I have to farm for the points I have to spend bookuu bucks on it. Why is it not elite?
Apoc
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The Labyrinthine armor in Marhan's Grotto goes for 8k a piece, but the materials include 400 Rolls of Vellum making it come out to about 80-100k for the whole set. I haven't tried it in the HoM, but I'm pretty sure it's an Elite/Prestige armor as the Wikis say it is.
Yes, the Labyrinthine armour can be added in the HoM.
I added mine a few days ago.
scottyboysn
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Originally Posted by Xitoahc
These kind of reasons don't have any substance, it's basically "I spent money on an armor I didn't like and took a chance, now I want my money back for gambling with my own money." Why on earth people would buy armor just because they have the gold and still hate it is beyond me, but these kind of reasons aren't giving any constructive feedback to Anet.
Who said I didn't like it?? I love the armor. But if they are going to put armor at the end of the game that costs 10k to craft.. then there should be some kind of "Does not work in HoM" warning label
 Also, I forget who mentioned it.. but on the box it says 40 new sets of armor. If the dwarven armor doesn't count, and the warrior gets an extra, where are the other 9?
Moloch Vein
Frankly... and to give this issue a reply instead of just coming up with a joke or whine a little about it.
It is obvious that a lot of people feel that the armor sets from GW:EN are poorly designed. I agree with them. I think most people who actually have an opinion agree with them. It's also true that the statement about "40 new armor sets" was false. Plain false. Even if we accept unoriginal reskins as new armor sets, even A-net themselves say that Dwarven armor isn't a set. What we need isn't a "Silver Eagle" set for every profession. We need Destroyer armor, designed according to the line of the Destroyer weapons. A-net has a lot of time before GW2 comes out. Adding this as the ultimate elite set of GW:EN and putting some thought into it shouldn't be inconceivable.
lynn yi
*sigh* I grind out the dwarf points and put out the gold to buy my set of dwarven for my monk as well only to find after the fact that i couldn't add it to HOM and then came here and found this thread.
I really hope they do decide to change it seeing as how it really ought to be considered an elite set. And what's this crap about it not being meant to be a set but being meant to mix and match with other armor? Hmm... that sounds like crap to me as the pieces don't actually mesh with other suits well IMO, mostly due to the patterns.
Curse You
In case you didn't notice, there is no "Dwarven Armor" set. Each armour piece belongs to it's own set, as is apparent if you read the names on each piece.
The whole purpose of "Dwarven Armor" is for mixing a matching. That's why each armour piece seems to have no relation to one another. allancue
I guess I should have just intuited that. I'll let you go back and read the multiple quotes which came directly from ANet as to how many "sets" were advertised to be included.
But hey, maybe you're just one of the many psychics playing this game who can intuit these sorts of things. I'm sure that the hundreds of players who purchased this armor expecting it to work in their HoM should have been able to do the same. Thank you for clarifying that for us.
Curse You
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I guess I should have just intuited that. I'll let you go back and read the multiple quotes which came directly from ANet as to how many "sets" were advertised to be included.
But hey, maybe you're just one of the many psychics playing this game who can intuit these sorts of things. I'm sure that the hundreds of players who purchased this armor expecting it to work in their HoM should have been able to do the same. Thank you for clarifying that for us. Don't make assumptions. You know where that leads, only I'm right and your, you know what. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_..._clarification
Spazzer
Actually, that confirms (rather than discounts) what he was trying to say. If the dwarven "set" isn't a "set", then we didn't get 40 armor "sets".
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