Petition: Fix HoM!

Okay I've seen everyone saying various things that need to be changed in the Hall of Monuments, so I thought I'd make a whole new post that covers everything in there. Here's what we have so far:

1.)Monument of Fellowship (heroes/pets)

• Only heroes with ascended (changed) armor can be displayed. Some people prefer a hero's starter armor over the upgrades. And some heroes can only have new armor from the harder challenge missions, which are also more expensive.
• Only the black moa, black widow, and phoenix pets are displayed as their own statue and labeled as what they are. All others are displayed as a statue with a wolf, bear, and lynx labeled Animal Companion.
• You can only have 5 statues at a time, but you can't pick exactly which 5 when you rearrange them. It's always random.

2.)Monument of Valor (weapons)

• Only high end weapons obtained from GWEN can be added. This does not include end game weapons, and even some golds can't be added. It's only Destroyer ones, and they customize to your character, without the added 20% damage bonus that other customized weapons do. And they all have the same inscription ("Strength and Honor, damage +15% while health above 50%) and I don't know that they can be changed. Plus they're gonna be pricey, as they take 5k alone to make, plus 10 onyx gemstones and 10 diamonds. The others are common materials.

3.)Monument of Honor (titles)

• Only maxed out titles can be displayed. Not everyone wants to grind to get max titles. And the Survivor one? It's hard to become Legendary Survivor. I've seen very few people with that title. Norn/Asura/Agent titles? They only give rep points one at a time for each creature slain. That could take forever...
• PVP-only titles have to be a certain rank (I believe rank 8 for hero, rank 3 for others) before they're displayed at all.

4.)Monument of Resilience (armor)

• Not that big of a problem, but only high-end/elite armor can be displayed. This includes Marhan's Grotto, Granite Citadel, Vabbian, Elite Sunspear, Elite Kurzick/Luxon, Ancient, Primeval, and Imperial (end game Factions). Sounds like a lot of choices, but the prices are high for some people. And some may be content with just the "low-end" armor.

5.)Monument of Devotion (mini pets)

• Any mini pet can be added, but it's automatically customized to the character that added it. It should be account-wide, not character-based.

Okay, there you have it! And in addition to the Monument of Fellowship, I think it would also be cool if a hero's pet could be like molded onto the hero's statue so it would be one big statue. I realize that could take a lot of work and frankly I'm okay without it, but I have a different pet for each of my character's heroes, so I think it would be cool.

I realize that ANet is working on Guild Wars 2, and I'm looking forward to it, but from what I understand, the Hall of Monuments gives us some kind of bonus in Guild Wars 2. Like our characters there can take out our weapons, armor, minis, etc. and use them from our Hall of Monuments. I collect green weapons and I'd love to have them on display. They're the only weapons I use. I have a lot of gold weapons but I have them for sale on my store and I bet they don't count as high-end weapons. Therefore my Guild Wars 2 characters will be defenseless unless something good drops in there. So I think they should fix at least some of the things, if not all, mentioned above. Who's with me?!

Changes…this is my opinion only and is only what I feel. I certainly do not represent all of the other players.

First of all, an introduction of the standpoint that I am coming from: I do not have a single character (of my 30 characters) that has finished Nightfall or Prophesies yet. I have finished Factions with 3, I think, or maybe 4 now. Except for the last month and ½, I have played GWs almost everyday since the release of Factions, which was my first online gaming experience in my life. I have so many characters that getting anywhere is slow since they all go up together and I play different ones depending on my mood that day.

Prior to that, my gaming experience consisted of entirely of self-customizable RPGs like Morrowind and Oblivion and NWN’s 1 and the Balder’s Gate series. I never played a MMORPH before and I never wrote on a forum before except once to post a download or two. So my take on this game is going to be different than a lot of peoples'.

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1.) Monument of Fellowship (heroes/pets)
• Only heroes with ascended (changed) armor can be displayed. Some people prefer a hero's starter armor over the upgrades. And some heroes can only have new armor from the harder challenge missions, which are also more expensive.

I don’t mind this one because I plan to keep going in Nightfall. However, I have no idea how far this trek will be. I have one character pretty close to the end and still have not seen Hero Ascended armor yet.

• Only the black moa, black widow, and phoenix pets are displayed as their own statue and labeled as what they are. All others are displayed as a statue with a wolf, bear, and lynx labeled Animal Companion.

This one is kind of a biggy for me. Animal companions are an extension of the beast master. The pet and master are one. Without my pet, my ranger can run away but that’s about it. Besides, spiders are creepy, and well, I’m a cat person. I don’t like birds. I will not change my pet just because of some reward given for GW2.

In fact, I don’t mind getting zero reward in GW2 due to not having the difficult to obtain Animal Companion. But, when the time comes, I still would appreciate seeing my own beloved pet and his name there. After all, my pet is the one that did all the work to get to the HoM in the first place. All my ranger did was stand back and shout at it.

• You can only have 5 statues at a time, but you can't pick exactly which 5 when you rearrange them. It's always random.

Having not visited HoM yet, I don’t fully understand what this means, but I have to admit that I dislike almost anything that is ‘random.’

2.) Monument of Valor (weapons)
• Only high end weapons obtained from GWEN can be added. This does not include end game weapons, and even some golds can't be added. It's only Destroyer ones, and they customize to your character, without the added 20% damage bonus that other customized weapons do. And they all have the same inscription "Strength and Honor, damge +15% while health above 50%) and I don't know that they can be changed. Plus they're gonna be pricey, as they take 5k alone to make, plus 10 onyx gemstones and 10 diamonds. The others are common materials.

I may be in the minority, but I’m not too picky about this one. I use mostly celestial weapons and had no expectations whatsoever that GW2 would have celestial weapons for use by my future GW2 characters.
Besides, I horde almost every weapon I find anyway, preferring to give them to my heroes as opposed to lamely having to stand around and sell them. My patience for sales is one minute long. So if I have to carry an extra weapon that I find to the HoM, it’s no big deal to me. It doesn’t mean that I have to use that weapon.

3.) Monument of Honor (titles)
• Only maxed out titles can be displayed. Not everyone wants to grind to get max titles. And the Survivor one? It's hard to become Legendary Survivor. I've seen very few people with that title. Norn/Asura/Agent titles? They only give rep points one at a time for each creature slain. That could take forever...

I’m slooowly working on a few Legendary Survivors (at rank 1 only so far). I also have some Lightbringers (at ranks 3 and 4 and one at 5 maybe) and seeker of wisdom (rank 2). I am also working on my Luck title (at rank 2), but that’s so I can open chests and attempt to role-play a rogue-like character.
Anyway, I already anticipated that we’d have to max out our titles before we could display them at the HoM.

And because I have so many characters that I love equally, with no favorites and no ‘main’ character, I concluded long ago that getting any of these characters' titles into the HoM in time for it’s release was pretty much hopeless. Therefore, I just plug along as usual, doing titles for the sake of role-playing. Eventually. I will get my titles maxed out and then proceed to the HoM, but it’s impossible to rush it. I bought too many accounts and can’t keep up with most other players because of that. But I love all my characters, so I guess there’s no regrets.

• PVP-only titles have to be a certain rank (I believe rank 8 for hero, rank 3 for others) before they're displayed at all.

I don’t do PvP often enough – so no comment here…

4.) Monument of Resilience (armor)
• Not that big of a problem, but only high-end/elite armor can be displayed. This includes Marhan's Grotto, Granite Citadel, Vabbian, Elite Sunspear, Elite Kurzick/Luxon, Ancient, Primeval, and Imperial (end game Factions). Sounds like a lot of choices, but the prices are high for some people. And some may be content with just the "low-end" armor.

I go shopping for armor I like. I do not care if the armor is less expensive and am somewhat dismayed when it is out of my budget, but I will sometimes try for it anyway.

Also, mixing and matching clothes is my all time favorite part of the game (no surprise – I’m a girl!). I also love shoe shopping. I have picked out all the shoes that I want and they do not necessarily come with the other mix of clothes that I have picked out for each character. Thus far, I haven’t come close to getting all my characters' final outfits, so that is actually my number 2 goal (my number one goal is to finish my legendary survivors so that they can go and get the clothes I want for them).

I wanted Gwen mostly because it came with new armor sets (the other reason was to explore it). I don’t mind if they are not the greatest. I am just happy for more clothes choices. And the glasses – I want those very much! Bring on the accessories!

In sum: There is no monument that will ever be important enough for me to stop shopping for the clothes I like. I will never buy my final outfit because of any other reason other than it being the outfit that suits my character best.

5.) Monument of Devotion (mini pets)
• Any mini pet can be added, but it's automatically customized to the character that added it. It should be account-wide, not character-based.

First and foremost, if it has not been done already, I think that the guinea pigs who beta tested Gwen should be able to revoke their mistakes and take back there accidental customizing of their mini pet if they want to. I am not against customizing a mini-pet to its owner if you have an option to take it back, delete the monument and start again.

When I play other computer games, I save the game every five minutes. It’s unnerving playing a game such as GWs that I can’t save. It makes me ultra cautious because I know that I am human and may get distracted by one of my ‘real-life’ cats or a phone call or what not and make a mistake. “Yes, God forbid a mistake!” I know. But loss of stuff is something that exists in real life. I try to escape real life mostly for reasons such as that.

Sure, there was a warning about the customization of the minipet. But people are excited. They are hasty. They are in an altered mental state. Maybe they trust Anet too much. Whatever. There are all sorts of reasons why one of the sneak preview beta testers would make an error and attach their mini-Gwen to a rarely used character. I think those guys deserve a chance to fix their mistake.

Other than that, for the rest of us, it’s good to know that there will be a customization of mini-pets ahead of time and therefore, the rest of us can choose far ahead of time, not to submit our mini-pet until later, like maybe next year or something.

Just so you don’t misunderstand: I do want the bonuses that I can get for GW2 at the HoM.

I have already purchased a copy of Gwen for each of my accounts and have not yet installed them yet because I don’t know exactly how it will affect the Prophesies terrain or campaign. I have not finished the original GWs and don’t know if it’s safe to mess with it or not by adding Gwen.

I just don’t want the HoM to become the main motivator at this point because it would take away from my role-playing and then the game would become too focused on some sort of exterior type of goal for my characters. I want Gwen so I can tour it. I heard that it was beautiful there.

/signed
I 100% agree

I think the monument of fellowship is fine, it is good that you should have to upgrade your heroes before they are displayed, heroes can be obtained from playing through the game, so thats not really an achievement.

The pet theory is fine imo, instead of just getting any easy pet, it displays elite pets which actually take some work to get.

The statue organisation should be player decided and not random i agree.

The Valor monument.... is completely silly as it excludes all elite weapons apart from destoryer ones, most destroyer weapons look rubbish :S at least tormented weapons and elite skins should be able to be shown.....

The title situation is ok, would be stupid if you get a silly little monument for 60% Tyrian Explorer for example. Although i think older players ( ones with main characters created before titles were implemented ) have been seriously disadvantaged title-wise, as it is impossible to get the survivor title or defender of ascalon on a character created before titles ( unless your david blaine and you met the title criteria before it was released )

The PvP title monuments are dandy, nice they have made them achieveable instead of unrealistic ( r9 champion and r12 hero = WTB Life please ) although the actuall monument for r8+ hero looks sh*te, who wants a picture of a map it should be a big statue of balthazar or something cool for an impressive title.

Many people like to be creative with their armours and Anet should understand this, possibly once you have 2 armour sets in the hall , they should be mixable, sorting out the dye on armours would be nice also (i have a purply mix on my ranger primeval armour to match my tormented bow and have a bone coloured mask, now the mask just looks stupid cos its gone purple )

The minipet is currently being resolved i think (read a statement by Gaile)

on the whole i feel Anet has really listened to players complaints about the hall and adjusted it accordingly, eg with more realistic title boundaries etc. and i think Anet listens to its players and is hopefully working on the current problems highlighted.

Thank you for the improvements Anet, keep them coming

im still ticked off that the dwarven ranger armor cannot be displayed yet Vanguard, and Asuran can.

Just make it accessible for those of us who don't wish to create an RPG character to visit the HoM please. It REALLY should be accessible from the PvP screen if PvP titles are to be recognised...

Only problem I have with it: The Hero Armor one should show the hero armor as it looks on the hero. Not that stupid gold statue. And the "Animal Companion" thing is just stupid.

_Zexion

At the very least, if they're going to require heroes have an armor upgrade, show them wearing it on the statue... Also, that pet thing needs to be freaking fixed.

Valor needs to accept more weapons. Hell, let it accept anything, they've got plenty of time to work out how the HoM affects GW2...

number one: gaile said before eotn even went live that they are looking into account wide mini customization

number two: hero armor? The endgame set is now pathetically cheap compared to the nightfall ones, and the other set isn't far behind.

number three: EotN titles taking forever? Duh, how else are they going to make it last? Besides, if you know where to look all of them have decent farming rates. The only thing missing there is HM for rank 9 and up.

The only fix I truly think is needed besides the aforementioned fix that's already being worked on, is the organization of stuff that can be displayed, the current system is dismal at best.

/signed

With..another suggestion.

I'd like to see HoM fixed to include the common armor pieces as well...my ambition to get Chaos gloves have been greatly diminished because I can't put it up on my wall. I like accessories (/highfives Dryndalyn) and looking at pretty things...so spending 75 ectos on a pair of gloves should count for something.

No, rly, how many new topic all-about-the-same-damn-thing are gonna be created in the near future? The HoM has already been widely discussed, and anet is looking forward it, and already fixed many things. You know what just I don't like atm? The fact that heroes statues are displayed with those ugly starter armors. That's all.

Bear in mind: This is the same for every class... Dwarven was said to be a set to combine with other sets, just as a different look; that's it. Apparently this is being looked into and MAY be altered in the future, but nothing for sure yet.

I think this is a rediculous topic, the HoM has already been vastly improved after the preview weekend, and I think its just about right now, aside from the fact that deldrimor armor and such can't be displayed. I think the topic creator is angry because you cannot display stupid, rediculously easy to obtain things. Its for achievements, not randomly running around and being a noob.

/not signed
1.most pets must not be display-able at all, as they are easy to charm
2.Titles must be a little more challenging
3.1k armor???in HoM?? everyone can aford it it is pointless, if u can`t afford a 15k armor it is all ur problem

My view on HoM is that you actually need to accomplisch something in order to display them. Which means most of your points are entirly /notsigned by me.

You can still display your normal armor on the hero. However, just getting a hero is not quite the accomplisment.

The game has 3 elite pets, I'm glad the HoM treats them as such. (Well actually 4, rainbow phoenix being the elite pets among elite pets.

O dear god please fix this.

Ofc they're prices they're endgame skins, however I would like to see the list of weapons that can be added expanded to add weapons such as Fellblades, IDS, FDS, Grinning Recurve Bow (I mean, it's a FoW exclusive skin) and others.

Then don't display them, there's no need to record your titles, there's no need to grind them. However, if you decide to you can record your achievments (instead of stuff you just got along the way).

Again, see my remark about pve titles, it's applies here as well.

That may be, but lowend armor are not good enough to deserve a spot in the HoM.


So basicly you want all your minipets in the HoM of all your characters? I just wish anybody could take out a customized minipet. But every character being able to add every minipet you own is just silly.

Basicly you want the HoM to be a collection of basicly anything you did without even trying, I see the HoM as a collection of stuff I actually tried or am going to try to do and put an efford into doing, instead of stuff I just stumbled upon. Anybody can get a 60% cartograph title by just playing the game, getting 100% is a lot of work and deserves to be displayed.

I still haven't tried the HOM myself, but 1 thing is really worrying me. I recently bought, at great expense, a 14% always no neg shortbow. As far as I can tell it is the only one that exists in the entire game. Which makes it truly unique, unlike those green 'uniques', and the best damn shortbow in the game. If they tell me that isn't 'worthy' there is something seriously wrong.

I wouldn't even care about it not having any future benefit in GW2, just so long as Marcus Macsumo can show off his customised 1 of a kind weapon, which he farmed and slaved towards getting 860 ectos to buy.

Ok, well, I helped my partner get TWO Black Moas. I just stood there while he charmed the bird. But before that, I did just as much work to get to the darn thing. Incidentally, two of my ranger characters helped with that on two separate occasions. So technically, they have made the achievement, but just didn’t want the bird for themselves.

I have three beast master rangers – this means I have three pets – one orange tiger, one white tiger and one bear. I have a real weakness for cute, fat n’ furry, four legged creatures, especially cats.

My bear was hardest to get because I had to go deep into Lornar’s Pass to get it with my one ranger Survivor who just got to level 20. So it was tough because that area is difficult and I didn’t want to die. Also the bear resisted and was difficult to charm. My partner helped me with that as I had helped him get the Black Moa. Nevertheless, there were some close calls and it was a risk. But I wanted that darn bear because it was fat, furry and cute.

I have finished Factions and have stood next to the Phoenix several times, but as beautiful as it is, it’s still a bird. I don’t want a bird.

The only thing I have not done yet is stepped foot into the Underworld. But that is because I still have much to do in the other worlds. However, I will be going there eventually to get a Black Widow Spider because my partner wants one.

Therefore, because of the above mentioned examples, I am not sure how fair the achievement ruling is for the Animal Companion.

But here is my idea – how about a challenging mission or dungeon that exists for your animal companion to prove itself. If it is really difficult and you have to go through it several times before you succeed and you MUST go through it with your animal companion, well, then perhaps your pet will have earned the right to stand with the black moa, creepy spider and phoenix.

Either that or please make a couple of fat, perhaps even fluffier, elite tigers that are really hard to get. Put them in FOW or something. I don’t care where I have to go. I am not afraid of the task or work it takes to get an elite pet. I just don’t want to have a bird or a creepy spider. But I DO want my animal companion to be represented properly at the HoM, even if it doesn’t transfer to GW2.

Fellowship: Yeah, pets of all types should be displayable. The 'elite' pets aren't all that much more difficult to obtain than normal pets, with the exception of the Rainbow Phoenix. Ascended Hero armour is pretty much expected, otherwise you are just adding heroes that you've unlocked, which is all of them.

Valor: Factions/Nightfall/EotN Endgame weapons, Destroyer weapons, Torment weapons should be displayable.

Honor: Maxed titles is expected, but needing KoaBD to display any at all is a bit much.

Resilience: Expected, though they should include the second dwarf set for warriors. Normal armour is, well... Normal. It's cheap.

Devotion: I really didn't expect it to customise mini pets, but that's because I expected it to be account based, not character based. But I can't really think of any other way to keep it character based without making this monument a joke (well, more of a joke than the rest of the HoM).

It really should have been account based.

/signed...so much needs to be done.

I'd really love to be able to 'pick' which heroes i have showing on the Fellowship area.

Peace,

Ferret

Huge blocks of bold text makes my eyes hurt.

/notread

1) You can still switch the hero back to it's starter armor after upgrading it. If anything, I think they should let us choose what hero armor we want to display.
2)No comment, really..
3)Yeah, this should be changed.


The 20% damage bug was supposedly fixed.
Of course they're going to be pricey...it's like the Tormented set of GWEN, just less expensive.
I agree that some gold skins, and perhaps greens should be added, though.

Once again, this is fine. If people are content with low end armor...they can still get a elite set for the hall if they really want one.
I wish we could mix and match 'em, though..


I'd settle for a Festival Hat NPC sort of thing...but for minis.



One thing I'd like to add:
Kinda wish the hall was account based...
With about 10 characters, I'm going to have alot of half-empty halls. XD

I totally disagree with most of what you have said.... This is the Hall of MONUMENTS! Not the Hall of mediocre-at-best-achievements. I think most of the player base doesn't really realize that the HoM is to reward players for time spent and attaining goals, not just for owning a game. PLEASE read further:

Monument of Fellowship (heroes/pets)
-The upgraded armor may be more expensive if you plan on buying WHICH IS GOOD. Either you spend the time in the challenge mission if you dont have the gold to buy it or you spend the gold that you have spent time getting to buy it.
-As far as pets I personally feel that ONLY the Black Widow should be displayed. It is by far the most difficult pet to obtain and therefore more than any other pet shows a "monumental" achievement.

Monument of Valor (weapons)
-I actually agree with the OP more on this than any other point he/she attempted to make, but I still largely disagree. Destroyer weapons only is a bad idea seeing as other weapons in the game are more difficult to obtain and in many cases cost more. For these reasons I personally believe that to show true "monumental" achievement the following weapons should be added: Tormented (As they cost roughly 5 times more than destroyer weapons and going by the quests they are at least 5 time more difficult to obtain if you were to earn them through play, making them THE elite PvE weapons). To this I would also add weapons that are ONLY available to HA only drops that are max damage and at least req9 (this including elite PvP as well, perhaps more HA only drops should be added so that there are weapons of each class/type that drop only in HA). This would accomplish an attainable goal for the general populace (destroyer weapons), recognition for elite PvE (Tormented weapons), and recognition for elite PVP (HA only weapons). This would provide the most reasonable "monumental" weapon achievement.

Monument of Honor (titles)
-Is fine imo (the op wants to drop the standard below max title, but whats monumental about being 1/2 of anything?!).

Monument of Resilience (armor)
-Is fine imo (the op wants to drop the standard below "elite" armor... but whats monumental about something i can pay a ~6k run from Ascalon to Droks and craft for a total of about 5k?.... nothing).

Monument of Devotion (mini pets)
-Should probably be account customizable.... but really whats "monumental" about a minipet anyway?!

Honestly, I'm not to fond of it either, but I am new to forums and there was no option to change the color of what I said and I don't know how to do it like how Gonzo did it. But I think that I have figured it out now - how I could have written it using lots of quotes, that is, instead of using the bold.

I partly agree and partly disagree... I think some people are forgetting that HoM features will be used in GW2 and we don't have much of an idea about how that'll happen. Maybe we'll all go /doh when we find out how things work later. ^^'

Plus, won't we be able to pass on our 'legacy' to the children/grandchildren/greatgrandchildren of our characters? It'd be strange if the HoM is account-based then, as then you couldn't pass things on to offspring of a specific character.

I'm probably biased as I have one main character though... But here's my opinion:

I agree on the rearranging part, and I'd like to be able to display my heroes without having to either buy armour parts or to try to get through an elite dungeon I probably won't be able to finish. But HoM IS about prestige and accomplishments rather than just storing whatever you want... And armour remnants are relatively hard to get, aswell as the pets you mentioned. Anyone can run out of an outpost and cap some random creature, getting a black moa or a black widow or phoenix is a bit more difficult (yes, I know some consider getting these easy too.) and it takes more time.

I couldn't agree more. I can't count the times I farmed (or tried to farm) greens for my characters. I have quite a collection on my mesmer so I'd love to show them off. There's not much prestige or effort in CRAFTING a weapon, is there? Only the cost. And it's just a very big limit really.

I don't know about this one... Yes, there are some titles that are extremely hard to get, but don't forget there's still a long time before GW2 comes out and that you don't necessarily have to grind for them. My mesmer got 80% explored in Elona just getting to Bone Palace. Quite a few titles just stack up while focussing on other things. Including reputation. Dungeons, taking a character through GW:EN... It might be slower but you don't HAVE to grind unless you're really bored with PvE in general.
I don't PvP much so I'll shush about that...

I have to admit I was slightly annoyed when I remembered my warrior has 1.5k armour instead of 15k... But again, it's about prestige and effort. Most 15k armour requires more effort than just having money, so I'd say this isn't like the Destroyer weapons... Again, I'm biased, my mesmer has tons of prestige armour.

Well this is where the earlier bit comes in, basing the HoM on your account could imbalance the whole point of the HoM in general. And not customising mini-pets could lead to even more imbalancing, you could just borrow them off other people or your other characters and copy them over and over.

So I'm probably one of the few who DON'T think the HoM needs to be 'fixed'. I just think it's a bit early to start demanding huge changes when nobody really knows how the link between your HoM and GW2 will work.

/notsigned all suggestions

• NOTsigned to display non-elite armor. (Armor display should only display special armors imo)
• NOTsigned to display incomplete PvE titles. (It would encourage to leave titles incomplete)

But here is my wishlist:

• Make HoM account-based rather than character based
• Customize minipets to account rather than a character
• Allow other high-end weapons to be displayed (Like tormented items)

Just allowing people to select what they want to show and in what order would be a great place to start imho.

I'd gladly pay 75k or whatever, per item/armor set, to add my favorite pets, 1k armors, and weapons. I can think of numerous examples where I've bought the non-ascended version of armor not because the ascended version was too expensive, but because I felt the non-ascended version looked better.

Nowhere near as easy as getting a Black Moa. At least you have to level most pets, since you can only display level 20 pets.

What makes them "elite pets"? Is it because they either start as lvl 20s or are only available after doing some stuff? Frankly, charming a White Tiger is harder than getting a Black Moa, mostly because you actually have to level up a White Tiger.

Black Widow charming runs. Or, join a trapper team and convince them to help you get a Black Widow. That's 1 hour at best, during which time all you have to do it move around laying traps. Yea, real hard.

Getting a pet, and leveling it up to 20 is a lot more of an accomplishment that stepping out a door and using Charm Animal on a Black Moa or doing an UW Trapping run with Charm Animal.

Honestly i can say that a balthazar statue instead of a silly pvp isle map for my r10 would be awesome, but im just happy it isnt r12 anymore.

for weapons, the tricky part would be in defining endgame as each person's standard is different. i say any tyrian 15>50 skin that doesnt drop should show, ie tyrian dyed serpent (not the hm canthan ones), crystallines, and dwarvens. tormented should be able to be shown too. the easiest way to do this would be to use the elite pvp skin rewards as a guideline as to what should be able to go into the hom.

i really wanan be able to rearrange my items. not jsut heroes, in the hom. i need to get my minis "just right."

yeah heroes should be able to display their current armor if it has upgraded armor. i mean i buy specific hero armors not because they are elite but because they look better on a certain hero to me, ie livia's cloth than deldrimor.

i see a huge improvement in the hom from the preview but it can still get better (goigog anet gj so far)

/Signed I am not going to get all this done just please the ppl who thought it over.I don't even know if I will be playing GW2 by the time it comes out 2009 maybe 2010.

/sign Petition

My only dislike about the HOM is the Monument of Valor (weapons). I hate the skin of the destroyer weapons skin plus the statics is bad . I don't mind it being expensive as it is the finial epic weapon in the game - it should be hard to obtain but it should look really cool and really powerful.

1 No comment

2 ye would like to display my black dyed norn longbow or my crystalline

3 Protector and Cartographer titles are pretty easy imo

4 Why u want to display cheap armor ? every player can affort it just need to be lucky with finding a weapon worth 100k

5 U get a mini pet for each character after a year so no need

At the very least I'd like to be able to display my weapon collection. I understand limiting items displayed to only those which carry some connection to GW2, but allowing the Valor display to have what you'd like within some arbitrary limits would be nice. Just stipulate there's no advantage to GW2 from each non destroyer item.

Monument of Valor

This is crap.

I wish they would let me choose which weapons to show. Let it be a limited number of weapons.

What if I love my Bo Staff most of all? And I find all end-game weapons ugly? It's never about money.

And... These are MY monuments - I am not aright to decide what is MY best achievement?


P.S. If they won't fix HoM. I think the only thing I'm going to leave there is my mini-pet. Just for fun.

P.P.S. WTS Monumental Tapestry.


EDIT.
Yes, I don't care about armor, heroes, titles, pets... I'm more than sure there will be no use for them in GW2.
But a single weapon left from my "grandgrandgrandfather" would be really nice as a sweet memory about GW1. Even if it doesn't fit GW2's requirements.

Monument of Valor will be useful only for... None? My elementalist? She uses End-Game green from Nightfall (Fire Staff). What about ranger? Her Chkkr's Flatbow is something to be proud of, if I farmed it by myself. Or perfect r9 dead sword of enchanting (+5 ene insc) for Ritualist... I can't put it? Lol why lmao?
Monument for minipets - Crap, I don't even want to waste Monumental Tapestry. If I want to show off my minipets, I will just show mini's in an outpost or guild hall. It's just stupid monument.
And why there is no reward for killing Destroyer? Even if he is weaker than Shiro + Lich (or just Lich), finishing GWEN plot should have a reward too. Oh well, I guess that having frozen Shiro is cool too.

It should allow any green or gold (max stat req <= 9) weapon.

/Signed
The weapons display is lame!

The only changes I'd like to have implimented are:

-An account based HoM for Titles, Mini Pets, Armours, Heroes and Weapons.
-Adding more weapons to the monument of valor (namely rare R9 golds such as elem swords, crystalines etc... and maybe end game greens).

Some might disagree with the HoM being account based, but over several characters, I have many numerous maxed titles (Legendary Defender of Ascalon on one, Legendary Cartographer on the other) and armours (vabbian on my sin, FoW on my monk and numerous 15k armours on other chars). I find buying the same armour for each one of my characters quite stupid really, especially as there are some armours which I dont like the look of. Additionally, I'd like to have my LDoA title with a survivor title in my HoM by gaining Legendary Survivor on another character. I'm quite a perfectionist when it comes to "completing" games, and i'd find it rather fun if i can max titles on some of my other characters rather than using my main for gaining all my remaining titles.

Now players who have dedicated their time to one particular character will disagree but they'd have an advantage over people that use several characters. The Kind of a Big Deal track would be achievable to only players who have perfected one specific character THUS they'd still gain something out of making one individual character superior to all their others. Additionally, without intending to offend any of these people, they're in their minority. Most GW'ers may mainly play on one character but still enjoy playing on their other characters once in a while.

"Rare" means nothing. Who's going to determine which item is "rare"? A bunch of Guru traders?

Well, I'd rather just see the minipet monument disappear altogether, but I know no one will agree with me there...

Weapons, achievements, heroes, and armor are all logical things for a character to commemorate, but... minipets? In the GW world, what the hell are they, anyway? All we know is that the Grey Giant is the result of fixing a "broken toy". I just don't see a legendary hero collecting toys, let alone displaying them in the same hall as their monument to the defeat of Abaddon, Shiro, and the Lich.

Aside from that nonsense, minipets are already account-based by their very nature, and account-based accomplishments shouldn't be displayed in a character-specific HoM, imho.

Don't get me wrong -- it's great that people have something to collect, and sometimes it's fun to see these things running around in a district, but this much emphasis on minipets is honestly a bit ridiculous.

I would try to brainstorm replacement monuments, but since no one will agree with any of this, I guess it doesn't matter anyway.