Hands up if you hate Gwen?

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

They should have her get over it and marry a char - perhaps a relative down the line could show up in GW2

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

I like that she's all fiery. And given her back story, who can blame her if she's a little psychotic?

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Gwen is hot.

CougarTheTall

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dallas, TX

The Blood Spikers

N/Mo

Leah Stone.

Nuff said.

blood4blood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

I used to hate pre-searing Gwen, but that was more about her ability to get in the way and bodyblock near corners. Now I find her entertaining - silly/cute kid, desparate escapee, vengeful angst-ridden young woman. It would be kinda nice to see her mature and develop further, but it's a game with a very limited storyline - as is, she's got the best character development of any NPC by far.

Abonai Laguna

Abonai Laguna

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Isle of the Dead [CoC] GH

Company Of Corpses [CoC]

E/

gwen pre=w00t
gwen post=stfu darn witch

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

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Gadd is the most annoying I've come across so far. The way he abuses those around him, throwing away the lives of others and ridiculing those who care about safety. Makes me want to grab him by his ankles and slam him into a chain of golems.
At least he does you the favor of not being around anymore after you do the Asura branch of the game.

I liked cute little pre-Searing Gwen. She chats with you, gives you little heals, plays music, and is so friendly. I figured whatever she came back as wouldn't be pretty after that whole bit with her burning everything down in-game, but I could have done without the scenery-chewing and braying she came back with. Yeah, she's a teenager. Yeah, bad stuff went on. But there's really no call for "You are all animals. SAVAGE... ANIMALS... AND I WILL DANCE ON YOUR GRAVES!"

Shut up, post-Searing Gwen. And thank you, Norgu, for existing.

And thank you, thread, for bringing so much funny on the first two pages at least. XD

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

shes annoying and a mesmer... not really anything good about her.

Jake_Steel

Jake_Steel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Portland, OR

The Older Gamers (TOG)

N/Me

I love Psycho chicks, Gwen is my favorite GW character period.

My GF teases me about the BMP Gwen mission because I refer to her as JB Gwen.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

Tbh i detest every hench and hero...except Gehraz that is, he's a legend

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle222
Tbh i detest every hench and hero...except Gehraz that is, he's a legend
Personal favorite is Devona. A woman with a hammer and she knows how to use it

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

all i can say is... since when did they allow primary class changes?
beta... Gwen walked into ascalon and blew everyone up with the fiery reign of hell...
GW:EN... she is now a mesmer? WTF.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

Also, as a child she was a mini-healbot. :P

WinterSnowblind

WinterSnowblind

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rexion
all i can say is... since when did they allow primary class changes?
beta... Gwen walked into ascalon and blew everyone up with the fiery reign of hell...
GW:EN... she is now a mesmer? WTF.
The end of the beta wasn't canon, it was just a fun little thing they threw in to end it. The BMP explains how she becomes a mesmer.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Riding the spiral

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
The end of the beta wasn't canon, it was just a fun little thing they threw in to end it. The BMP explains how she becomes a mesmer.
Nah, the BMP doesn't explain shit. It told me nothing I didn't already know.

Yeah, I thought I saw another EotN rant topic when I read the name. For the sake of it, GW:EN was a horrible let-down and failure. It was just an overpriced advertisement for what, at this rate, may be a not-too-great game anyways.


Gwen herself, though, I hate. With a burning passion. Of flames. She was damn annoying in Pre-Searing, and just as much irritating now. That bitch needs to take a drink of water, inhale a Sharpie, and stfu.

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind
The end of the beta wasn't canon, it was just a fun little thing they threw in to end it. The BMP explains how she becomes a mesmer.
why would i bother buying the BMP? It seems like a waste of money just for a bunch of extra missions that I would have to H/H because people have branded pugging as bad because of the idiots that run W/E fire storm builds.

tmr819

tmr819

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rexion
why would i bother buying the BMP? It seems like a waste of money just for a bunch of extra missions that I would have to H/H because people have branded pugging as bad because of the idiots that run W/E fire storm builds.
I believe the BMP missions are all solo (plus NPCs, in some cases) anyway, actually. Whether they are worth the price, however, I cannot say, since I haven't played them.

As for Gwen, good grief, people. She's an AI character -- not worth hating, really.

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

Gwen used to be cool, now she's an idiot. Trauma or not, she has issues that aren't cool.

Roland of Gilead

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/

Gwen is not exactly a likable character, which is kind of weird since she is the inofficial name-giver for the first and only expansion of Guild Wars. She is a lot like Mathilda from the movie Léon, except that Mathilda eventually grew up till the end of the movie. Gwen remained, for all we know, at the stage where Mathilda took Leon's gun and fired random shots out of the window, i.e., venting her understandable frustration, helplessness, and loneliness in an irrational and potentially self-destructive way.

Through in-game behaviour, cutscenes, game trailers, mysterious items, and numerous other references and hype, Gwen has become a sort of legend and mystery of herself, some kind of inofficial mascot to the GW series that required further elaboration, but ANet failed to create an actual conclusion to her development. Or is it an actual conclusion to say "And she lived full of hatred ever after"? That's why I dislike her as a character.

Nian

Nian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Finland

R/

Buhaha. I don't see much Mathilda in Gwen, sorry. <.<

BUT Wouldn't you people say that a game needs to have these sort of characters too as far as NPC's go. You're not supposed to like all the characters and are supposed to really like others. The point is that different characters make you feel different things and get you emotionally involved.

IRL you don't like anybody and everybody. The game would be dull with just "nice" characters. Gwen has an important role imho. I wouldn't mind an deeper insight into her life tho so we could get to know all sides of her and not just what is black and white.

cerb

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

sexually frustrated

Roland of Gilead

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/

Nian, why not? The exposition is the exact same: Both are young girls who lost their relatives, their home, and generally everything that's important to them. Both want revenge on the bad guys above anything else, and they learn to fight from someone who is a professional at it, plus a sort of parent figure.

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by tmr819
I believe the BMP missions are all solo (plus NPCs, in some cases) anyway, actually. Whether they are worth the price, however, I cannot say, since I haven't played them.

As for Gwen, good grief, people. She's an AI character -- not worth hating, really.
Seriously? As I suggested earlier... bring her to the Underworld and she will go into this long moronic conversation with her dead mother... and waste a ton of your screen space. It is annoying and she should get into anger management. I like to go to UW with Gwen and Pyre at the same time because I get the idea that Pyre want to secretly murder them both and join the Aataxe in their mindless brutality.

bpphantom

bpphantom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Canukistan

The Eyes of Ashtabula [Eyes]

Ooooh. I will have to take her to the UW just to see her rag on her mom.

Gwen needs some weed.

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

I like that Gwen retains some of the attitude she showed when she was raining fire down on everyone . . . but why doesn't she do it anymore? I think she and Vekk should have had their professions switched.

Ouchie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

[Leet]

R/

Was there ever any use for all the flowers?

Takuna

Takuna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

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Originally Posted by Mournblade
Isn't ritalin supposed to calm you down and help you focus? lol

Anyway, I love Gwen. She's like your hot psycho-ex-girlfriend only with sweet mesmer action thrown in. rawr.
I was going to moan about Gwen but then I saw that... That's some very tough material, there. Can't really say anything to it besides a good old lol.

But meh, I'll have my say, anyway...

I found that I could always put up with Gwen and (as dumb as it is) I could sympathise with her past and how that made her angry... But I really was always hoping Pyre would give her a good slap to wake her up.

Pyre? I didn't actually mind him that much. He didn't blindly follow other people's ways and was willing to work with and, in the end, respect those he had been taught to hate and despise. He had more character than alot of the human Heroes despite what failings he may have had.

EDIT: I also agree with Nian on the whole like/dislike balance. Besides, not everyone likes likable people as they find it cheesy and sickly... Like our good ol' psycho-lover Mournblade, there. *Backs away*

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Takuna
But I really was always hoping Pyre would give her a good slap to wake her up.
I wanted to see me do that. They really should have added some extra scenes for Tyrian characters where you smack Gwen around and remind her that you ALSO experienced the Searing firsthand (and presumably had things fairly tough during that two-year timeskip)...

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

I understand where her anger was... but seriously, she became very unrelateable after 10 minutes into GW:EN....

Yes everyone around her died when she was a kid, but there is no need to have a stick up your ass and act like you are 46 with vengence when you are only 18...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Don't diss da gwen!

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
Calm down everybody, this isnt' another what a crap expansion post. I love GW:EN.

I'm talking about the character. I hate her. She's such a royal pain in the behind! It's like she's jacked up on ritalin. I just want to sit her down and tell her to chill the f**k out. Seriously.

Just wanted to have my rant. Anyone else feel this way? Are there any other characters you guys don't like? I don't mean in a game design way, just in an "If I met you I'd probably hate you" kind of way...
As you said yourself... calm down pet!!

Its a GAME!!!!!! Its not like she stole your boyfriend or broke your marriage up!

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

GW:EN needed alot less Gwen, alot less charr (storywise that is) and alot more vanguard, the ebons we're the real backstory and humor to it...but so overlooked

i mean its a GW dads army, why would you ignore it?

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

gwens character in prophs was ok helpless clueless lil girl


in GWEN man took a turn for the worse

remember when u meet her at eye of the north love th crappy graphics.......
where u see here

mouth flap like Muppet really made teh game look like poo

HurrY!!!!

Run to Sanity=====> woW is the answer....to all of yourrpoblems

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

The Hero=Hate
The NPC in pre and in the post beta party=I love her
The Expansion=A FREAKING GRIND FEST it sucks

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

I don't hate her. She's annoying at times (like whenever she's in a cutscene) but as long as she performs the simple Mesmer tasks I lay before her she keeps her head.

As for all the flowers: I have a theory about what happened to them, but you need to have played Cave Story to understand.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
I wanted to see me do that. They really should have added some extra scenes for Tyrian characters where you smack Gwen around and remind her that you ALSO experienced the Searing firsthand (and presumably had things fairly tough during that two-year timeskip)...
And for Canthan characters, to tell her about how the Canthans went through something FAR worse than the Searing; the Jade Wind.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

I hate Gwen just as much as I hate the Frog. They are both 2 overrated characters that have no reason to be liked as much as they are. I've never understood why either are so popular.