Hands up if you hate Gwen?

Charrbane

Charrbane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

W/E

I'm pissed at the Charr for messing up my Ascalon and turning it into a massive devourer breeding ground. I'm with Gwen to put all those furry cat buggers to the sword.

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

I'm pissed that I payed $40 for a expansion that should be $5.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowStorm
Maybe I'm just weird, but I actually liked the cutscenes with Gwen and Pyre. I was actually hoping there'd be more of them. I dislike Pyre though. He has a cool voice, but I hate his personality. I was actually hoping Gwen would teach him a lesson in some of the later cutscenes. I would have been rooting her on the whole way through.
Well, she did smack him around at the end.

@Ork...less trolling please. You knew exactly what was in the game before it was released; if the missing character slots, tutorial area, and storage tab are worth $35 to you and the rest of the expansion only $5, you would have done better buying 3 or 4 characters slots with your money and using 2 of 'em as mules.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

I dunno why people hate Gwen so much, her attitude is kinda predictable, a 10 year old's life turned upside down and everyone close to her killed (Except maybe....the player?).

Anet were nice enough to allow Gwen to expand her friendship with the player via the tapestry shred quest.

HolyHawk

HolyHawk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

lf guild~

Me/A

I honestely was expecting her to like she is; I do hate her in pre-searing. If only I could ride the devourer siege and nuke her with her flute, I sure would. Grown-up Gwen is nice, predictable, but fine. GuildWars does not have much of a character development, but I wanted to see her turning from this bitter person to someone who finaly overcame all the hardship she's been through. I don't like Pyre either, but I do find it funny when he argues with Gwen and calls her mouse, and humans meat.

DrLight1

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/E

Personally, I enjoyed Gwen...I mean, when your family is killed before your eyes and your homeland destroyed, thats gotta leave SOME unresolved issues and leftover anger.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

Gwen is pretty cool but our little mouse needs to learn that not all Charr are evil. Pyre Fierceshot is great though

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

I too was expecting her to be vengeful, hateful and pretty bloodthirsty. But wouldn't a warrior be a much much much fitting role for her, if that was the case?

"Argh I'm angry! I shalt twirl around and cast spells to confuse ye!"

Teleport

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/W

Gwen is hot, I have no clue what you are ranting about her for. Gwen ftw <3. I'll bring her in my party even if she's useless just to stare at her.

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

^ PEDO.

But anyway, I hate Gwen. She's an annoying brat and tries to act tough but she's a pansy. How do you think she survived the searing? She ran away. And she's a mesmer.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
^ PEDO.
So an 18 year old liking a 16-18 year old is wrong now?

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

shes almost as bad as danika

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorondor Port
shes almost as bad as danika
Lol, ouch bro.

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
So an 18 year old liking a 16-18 year old is wrong now?
Actually she's ~14 or 15. She's ~6 or 7 in Pre +2 years (post) +6 years (EotN) that's 14 or 15 NOT 16-18. And wrong now? I'm pretty sure it's always been wrong but w/e.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

She's bloody annoying. It's a damn pity that the incompetant Charr couldn't finish her off

At least Sarah wouldn't be worrying all that time

Croco Clouds

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

I like her when she's in her Deldrimor Armor. That's it

Croco Clouds

Croco Clouds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Montreal, QC, Canada

Divine Illumination [LaZy]

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
Actually she's ~14 or 15. She's ~6 or 7 in Pre +2 years (post) +6 years (EotN) that's 14 or 15 NOT 16-18. And wrong now? I'm pretty sure it's always been wrong but w/e.
She definitely grow unnaturally fast heh? lol

Corwin_Andros

Corwin_Andros

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
Actually she's ~14 or 15. She's ~6 or 7 in Pre +2 years (post) +6 years (EotN) that's 14 or 15 NOT 16-18. And wrong now? I'm pretty sure it's always been wrong but w/e.
I don't recall ever seeing Gwen's age in pre actually stated with any certainty so while you might have assumed her to be 6 or 7, I personally saw her as around 10-11 myself. I have a daughter that age, who can act very much like Gwen as a child, when not trying act all grown up. So she might well be 18 or so in EotN. Besides that, who would put a minor in charge of the Vangaurd in the captain's absence, when there would have to be actual adults around?

The point is, her age is more or less immaterial, and calling someone who may or may not be a teen themselves a "Pedo" for finding an ambiguously aged digital character attractive is well.. inappropriate. As for it ALWAYS being considered wrong, look at your history books.

In times past.. even in the early 20th century it wasn't unusual for people to be married and have their first kid by 16. I believe in fact that there are still, to this day, cultures where the kids still marry off early. So let's not try and place our western ideals on everything, thinking they are the end all, be all of what is right and wrong.

Oh, and jrk247, sorry you got to be the target here. It's not directed so much at you in particular, but just as a general statement... Just one of my pet peeves. Comes from being part of an oft maligned, religious minority that has had more than its share of western (more Christian) prejudice over the centuries. It just always bugs me when people start sounding judgmental or self-righteous and start pointing fingers at others with no real call for it.

Personally I find Gwen cute, but otherwise not so appealing

But on topic.. I don't mind the girl being feisty, angry, or so hate focussed on the Charr. I can see that attitude of hers being realistic, knowing as I do, several women who have been subjected to abuse of one sort or another and have that same attitude to one degree or another.

Darlichay Dalinar

Darlichay Dalinar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Cantha's Intelligence Agency

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff Mon
Come on, she's a scripted voice actress and some animation routines displayed as pixels. Really, try not to immerse yourself so much.
Guess we'll bump movie and novel critics out then...

Believe it or not, movies have a SCRIPT! Oh MAN I went there.

This is a valid point, honestly; no need to flame it. She's been changed from happy-go-lucky to psycho, and that's no understatement, as many have agreed. Mesmer fits her perfectly for that rather stuck-up feel, however...

@Bryant: Warrior would've been more fitting, however the issue remains at this: When in Pre, you have the option to take her around with you to the different trainers. When you do so, they get to see what she's like and go off of that. When you hit the Mesmer trainer, I believe, they say she has an unbelieveable amount of focus for a child of that age, and that's about where they end it.

From there, then, we deduce Gwen, the little girl with a lot of heart and tons of promise, is dead as we find her items. Of course we now know we can use those items to REALLY find out what the crap went on, and get a little more insight... but yeah.

I rather agree with the warrior comment, and if there was another trainer that said she was promising in that area and I missed it, then meh, I missed it. I suppose you could also think about it this way: Let's change rolls of the mesmer and warrior in GW:EN... Jora as a Mesmer? Something that tall and spinning around is a big "no thank you."

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by «Ripskin
If one more of those bastards calls me a bookah I'm going to chop their oddly shaped head off.
I don't mind being called bookah as much as the rudeness. If I could, I would just leave them and let the destroyers wipe them all out. Especially Gadd, I wish him a slow and painful death.

Yes, I know it's just pixels, but the whole idea of the game is to get in to the story, otherwise what do you have? Just a bunch of people running around killing stuff.

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

gwen is a witch hands down all done haha

eightyfour-onesevenfive

eightyfour-onesevenfive

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

7??13'35" E - 50??06'27" N

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Gwen... however did that psychopath become second in command in the Vanguard? A raving lunatic like that needs to be locked up before she hurts anybody or herself! I mean, just listen to her! She blames the Charr for "having taken everything from her", so far so good. But right now the Ebon Vanguard is invading Charr homeland. The Ebon Vanguard is the aggressor here. So she better not blame the Charr for defending themselves and killing her precious Ebon Vanguard friends in the process. As understandable as her rage may be, she has clearly lost her grasp on reality and needs to be removed from command posthaste!

kimahri

kimahri

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

E/

She's a little too much "HURRRR I HATE TEH CHARR, HURRRR. THEY KILLED MY FAMILY, HURRRR"
Yeah, sure teenagers like myself can be a pain in the ass, but not in my game thanks.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive
Gwen... however did that psychopath become second in command in the Vanguard? A raving lunatic like that needs to be locked up before she hurts anybody or herself! I mean, just listen to her! She blames the Charr for "having taken everything from her", so far so good. But right now the Ebon Vanguard is invading Charr homeland. The Ebon Vanguard is the aggressor here. So she better not blame the Charr for defending themselves and killing her precious Ebon Vanguard friends in the process. As understandable as her rage may be, she has clearly lost her grasp on reality and needs to be removed from command posthaste!
< Agrees with ^

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive
Gwen... however did that psychopath become second in command in the Vanguard? A raving lunatic like that needs to be locked up before she hurts anybody or herself! I mean, just listen to her! She blames the Charr for "having taken everything from her", so far so good. But right now the Ebon Vanguard is invading Charr homeland. The Ebon Vanguard is the aggressor here. So she better not blame the Charr for defending themselves and killing her precious Ebon Vanguard friends in the process. As understandable as her rage may be, she has clearly lost her grasp on reality and needs to be removed from command posthaste!
Maybe she slept her way to the top. Hahaha

She is such an irrational psycho. She seems so 1-dimensional.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

^ oh crap, that's putting filthy images in my head fapfapfap

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

I have nothing against Gwen myself. I prefer her over Norgu. hehe But I do agree with the whole chill out thing. "Just shut up and die!" Poor Pyre...lol yeah she does need to calm down in some cases, but for the most part I like her.

Surena

Surena

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by eightyfour-onesevenfive
Gwen... however did that psychopath become second in command in the Vanguard? A raving lunatic like that needs to be locked up before she hurts anybody or herself! I mean, just listen to her! She blames the Charr for "having taken everything from her", so far so good. But right now the Ebon Vanguard is invading Charr homeland. The Ebon Vanguard is the aggressor here. So she better not blame the Charr for defending themselves and killing her precious Ebon Vanguard friends in the process. As understandable as her rage may be, she has clearly lost her grasp on reality and needs to be removed from command posthaste!
No, sometimes you have to invade to remove any chance of further aggressions or invasions. It's that simple. Alexander the Great did it for instance.

Anyway, I don't get the hype about Gwen and her not being 18 yet (and all these gwen guild tags, references to sex with underaged). Maybe you nerds should try real girls before fantasizing.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

I don't like GWEN cause she can't use Pain Inverter :<

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Meh. My norgu will never be replaced unless gwen gets a grip on reality, and understand that not all charr are evil.

Until then, stay in the HoM little girl, and you can go out at night.

Abbel Calima

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

The Netherlands

Envoys From Above [soul]

Me/

I like gwen. As i need someone to pair up with my male mesmer, gwen is the only option. Norgu + me is gayness.

bwillcox

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
Meh. My norgu will never be replaced unless gwen gets a grip on reality, and understand that not all charr are evil.

Until then, stay in the HoM little girl, and you can go out at night.
Well, I think Norgu is an idiot. Gwen, on the otherhand, is behaving pretty much as I would expect a teen in her place to be doing. I must say that I haven't figured out what the problem with Norgu is. Perhaps it's just that mesmers behave like fools.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surena
Maybe you nerds should try real girls before fantasizing.
You should leave the Internet if you don't like it here.

EDIT: Also, I just plain don't like the way Gwen looks, which is always a factor in choosing which heroes I take.

D8tura

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by haggus71
Just don't leaver her. You'll end up with a boiled Vekk on your stove ala Fatal Attraction.
OMG I almost fell out of my chair with that one!!!

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

I loved her then and I love her (gwen) now. We take Pyre out and go charr farming hehe

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
I don't mind being called bookah as much as the rudeness. If I could, I would just leave them and let the destroyers wipe them all out. Especially Gadd, I wish him a slow and painful death.
If I remember - doesn't he get a fast and gory one?

Fox Reeveheart

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

D/

i love the heros... love the new skins... hate gwen.

It's just the grinding that irks me the most.... and the drops. They are substantially lower in value than the rest of the GW world.

But yeah. I can't stand being forced to farm to get the armor and weapons from a expansion.

*raises hand* gwen is hot and pyre is awesome but the rest of the game is crap. I stopped playing cause i need a break after all the forced farming. I want monument armor but I just don't have the willpower right now

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
Calm down everybody, this isnt' another what a crap expansion post. I love GW:EN.

I'm talking about the character. I hate her. She's such a royal pain in the behind! It's like she's jacked up on ritalin. I just want to sit her down and tell her to chill the f**k out. Seriously.

Just wanted to have my rant. Anyone else feel this way? Are there any other characters you guys don't like? I don't mean in a game design way, just in an "If I met you I'd probably hate you" kind of way...
I am sorry if this thread has started so long ago, but I have the same feeling, I dislike her constant complaining about how she suffers, if you think about it, all of them suffer, i mean if you look at all the stories of the hench and npc, but none of them complain like Gwen did... she's just very annoying.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Simple: Gwen wants us to feel sorry for her than Ascalon got... well, you know...

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

The reason is because Gwen is what? 16? 18? And all teenagers think the world revolves around them.