Thank you GW Team

First off I believe Gw Team deserves a thank you. It has been a long time since I have enjoyed the beauty of Tyria. It was nice to come back. As stated in the many many other topics GW:EN is not a standalone campaign it is a expansion.

Def of expansion: Added content to a game that was not able to be added to normal game.

As an expansion GWEN is exactly what I expected.
1. Armors- People why are you crying about no new armors. First of all this is Tyria we are on NOT a new campaign.
2. Weapons- Again we are in Tyria NOT a new campaign
3. Story was too short- ITS A FREAKING EXPANSION NOT A STAND ALONE GAME. Hence forth it is supposed to be shorter because it is merely adding content.
4. Character slots- Everyone is very capable of spending say 10 dollars bringing total cost of GWEN to $50 to get an extra character slot. Plus why do you need another one there are no new classes.
5. Heros- I love em and so do many others. It allows me to play the game how I want it to be played. I dont have to group with people that are dumb either.
6. Grind- Needed to be added. If everyone was able to get the armors easily what would be the point. Everyone would be complaining that their was no challange. If people took half the time to farm rep. points then they did at flaming the game on guru they would have their armors all ready.
7. Grind/armors cont.- All i see are people complaining about the armors being reskins. Well if you dont like the armors why care about the grind?
8. Hom- Only thing in my opinon that needs some looking into.
9. Dungeons- Amazing addition to the game. Love it and looking forward to future content.
10. No new eleites- Lie there are new eleites granted they are pve only and do not count towards any titles but they are a blast with the personnal favorite of Ursan blessing.


Thank you and if anyone wants to farm Norn rep with me my Ign is Glyphofhealing Sounds so fanboi'd!

My response:
1- By your logic because its Tyria the armors should just be reskins, but if your using that logic the re-skins should be from tyria only and im 100% sure i saw some factions armor reskinned, therefore this logic is retarded and they should have gave us new armor.
2- Weapons , same as above, and the new weapons, while some nice, other are just not worth their current price [destroyer]
3- Story was short... lack of new content?, Story= content, for those who are slow, dummies >_>..
4- It's called wanting to play more classes then you currently can, and not everyone has the ability to pay online for xtra slots, thus ii would have paid $50 to get a new slot
5- heros were in before, and you can only use 3 at a time, so its not too much different than before, the only one who sounds dumb here is you..
6- grind- self explanatory
7- Armors= content [which is barely even new] and whats the point of buying the expansion so widely advertised as brining new content.
8- agree with you for once
9- same maps, reskinned and darkened, with Over power'd boss at end, woo.
10- PvP is a fun part of GW and shouldn't be neglected, even in a PVE expansion they could have given some new regular elites, its not as if they aren't usable in PvE. +...Those new PvE skills don't seem too thrilling to me.

First off I believe Gw Team deserves a thank you. It has been a long time since I have enjoyed the beauty of Tyria. It was nice to come back. As stated in the many many other topics GW:EN is not a standalone campaign it is a expansion.

Def of expansion: Added content to a game that was not able to be added to normal game.

As an expansion GWEN is exactly what I expected.
1. Armors- People why are you crying about no new armors. First of all this is Tyria we are on NOT a new campaign.
2. Weapons- Again we are in Tyria NOT a new campaign
3. Story was too short- ITS A FREAKING EXPANSION NOT A STAND ALONE GAME. Hence forth it is supposed to be shorter because it is merely adding content.
4. Character slots- Everyone is very capable of spending say 10 dollars bringing total cost of GWEN to $50 to get an extra character slot. Plus why do you need another one there are no new classes.
5. Heros- I love em and so do many others. It allows me to play the game how I want it to be played. I dont have to group with people that are dumb either.
6. Grind- Needed to be added. If everyone was able to get the armors easily what would be the point. Everyone would be complaining that their was no challange. If people took half the time to farm rep. points then they did at flaming the game on guru they would have their armors all ready.
7. Grind/armors cont.- All i see are people complaining about the armors being reskins. Well if you dont like the armors why care about the grind?
8. Hom- Only thing in my opinon that needs some looking into.
9. Dungeons- Amazing addition to the game. Love it and looking forward to future content.
10. No new eleites- Lie there are new eleites granted they are pve only and do not count towards any titles but they are a blast with the personnal favorite of Ursan blessing.


Thank you and if anyone wants to farm Norn rep with me my Ign is Glyphofhealing 1: we were promised new armors

2: we were expecting new weapons

3: I'm with you there.

4: Alright, $50 for an expansion with one character slot. How much does Nightfall cost? $50, and that gives us 2 new character slots on an existing account, lots of new armor, new playable professions, and a huge storyline.

5: Also with you here. Love the new heroes. But nightfall has more than double the number.

6: GW was supposed to be a minimal-grind game. Noone is saying eliminate the grind. People are saying allow players to access the crafters at lower levels corresponding to completing the storyline and all of the primary quests. I.E. level 3...not level 5 which requires hours of grind after completing every dungeon, quest, storyline, etc for max points.

7: This is doublespeak. You say why worry about either because they're interconnected. Don't bitch because you won't like it anyway. Well, there are people complaining about the armors but not the grind, and visa versa. Oh, and HoM has slots for these new armors, so people who like completing everything they can are getting double hosed. Why have a second set of armor that looks like what they already have? I'd be pissed if I had ranger obsidian that looked exactly like one of the EOTN armors (vanguard?) that costs a tenth of what obsidian cost. Kills the prestige of the Obsidian...alot.

8: Needs more than "some" looking into. Everything needs to be changed.

9: Agreed

10: These elites cannot be used with any other skillsets or in PvP. May as well just fill up the bar with other signets and just have at it.

Nutshell: if Anet released an expansion with minimal new content, it should have a cost on par with the material gained. Half the new material or thereabouts as a new campaign: $25 max price. Not $40, which is what I paid for Factions after NF was released. We were hosed. Everything but the heroes and environment was rehashed. It's a good expansion, but it costs as much as a whole campaign.

The budget and time for GW:EN was obviously not as much as the campaigns (Mainly because it's an expansion). With this in mind, that's mainly the reason why most of the armors/weapons are just reskins; new weapons/armors would require a new model and skin to be made meaning more time/resources. The time they spent on the scenery of the new areas though, is remarkable.

Keeping in mind that this expansion sold for half the price of a normal expansion here, i'm nothing but satisfied with what I got. Great job Anet! If the budget and time for GW:EN was obviously not as much as the other campaigns, then the main question still exists for many unhappy players...Why charge $40 for a half ass product?

I've refrained from adding to any of these posts before but i just want to add something to this regarding the setting. When i first stepped out intot he Ebon Vannguard area, its probably the first time i've gone "wow" since walking out into pre-searing all those years ago. is without doubt my favourite area in the game. even more so as it doesnt have annoying Assura all over the place calling me Booka are telling me they're busy Me too. I love it, it's like a really big pre-sear.

1. Armors- People why are you crying about no new armors. First of all this is Tyria we are on NOT a new campaign.
2. Weapons- Again we are in Tyria NOT a new campaign
3. Story was too short- ITS A FREAKING EXPANSION NOT A STAND ALONE GAME. Hence forth it is supposed to be shorter because it is merely adding content.
4. Character slots- Everyone is very capable of spending say 10 dollars bringing total cost of GWEN to $50 to get an extra character slot. Plus why do you need another one there are no new classes.
5. Heros- I love em and so do many others. It allows me to play the game how I want it to be played. I dont have to group with people that are dumb either.
6. Grind- Needed to be added. If everyone was able to get the armors easily what would be the point. Everyone would be complaining that their was no challange. If people took half the time to farm rep. points then they did at flaming the game on guru they would have their armors all ready.
7. Grind/armors cont.- All i see are people complaining about the armors being reskins. Well if you dont like the armors why care about the grind?
8. Hom- Only thing in my opinon that needs some looking into.
9. Dungeons- Amazing addition to the game. Love it and looking forward to future content.
10. No new eleites- Lie there are new eleites granted they are pve only and do not count towards any titles but they are a blast with the personnal favorite of Ursan blessing. 1. They have introduced new races -- Norn and Asura -- and given more depth to the Dwarves. Why is an obscure, solitary people high in the far reaches of the Shiverpeaks offering us armor we saw in Cantha? I'd like to see armor that shows a bit of quality work in it instead of mixes and reskins that don't quite look right. Uniqueness would be nice, but apparently that's beyond Anet at this point.

And the fact that Warriors get an extra set is complete crap.

2. I haven't heard too many bitchings about weapons except for the pathetic loot drop issue. I like the new stuff and don't mind the old.

3. It has about half the content and takes about half the time to complete that a standalone campaign does, yet we paid well over half the price of a full campaign for it.

4. Don't care about this issue. They'd be nice, but I already have extra slots so I can play every class and qualify for the mission pack.

5. Except for the AI, which suddenly went to hell and needs a fix like wammos need a clue, who's complaining about the new heroes? Well, there IS the issue where their armor's unique, amazing, and they get like three sets of it as opposed to our four reskins per class BUT ANYWAY.

6. This isn't a concern to me, although obviously people disagree. This is one issue you can actually DO something about by shutting up and playing. Getting rep points is easy enough if you don't break your head over it and try to reach the max level within a day. Take the time you spend griping about that to do dungeons and take quests.

7. I'm going for titles for my own personal completist satisfaction. I have little interest in any of the armor. That was supposed to be the sweet deal at the end, but I'm not even going to bother. Personal preference.

8. No argument here.

9. Who's whining about the dungeons? Sure, they're difficult, but that's why you tweak your/the heroes' builds and try new things. The layout copypasta is a bit pathetic in places and the prize at the end could stand to suck less, but it's still a good way to get rep points.

10. Haven't heard anyone whine about the elites, although I believe someone out there managed to do it. It's a shame if there aren't more beyond the race-specific ones like Ursan Blessing, but I doubt anyone bought GW:EN specifically for the skills.

This is leading up to GW2...its the last thing we have until it comes out. No new elites kinda sucked, I was looking forward to getting some new stuff but no biggie. No, they had nothing planned when they were finishing up EotN. Very, very unlikely we won't get anything more for GW before GW2, as they still need to keep people interested in the game.

No, they had nothing planned when they were finishing up EotN. Very, very unlikely we won't get anything more for GW before GW2, as they still need to keep people interested in the game. Yeah, I heard there's ganna be a big PvP update soon.

We can thank the government if they do nice things for us, not a company whose sole purpose is to sell and make profit (in this case Anet). Off-topic: Aren't governments there to take care of their people, essentially? Just because a company's sole purpose is to make profit, doesn't mean we can't be thankful if they create something for us (to buy) that we have a good time with. Basically, it makes more sense to be thankful when someone does something they are not required or expected to do, than when someone's doing their job. Either way, being thankful never hurts.

Off-topic: Aren't governments there to take care of their people, essentially? Just because a company's sole purpose is to make profit, doesn't mean we can't be thankful if they create something for us (to buy) that we have a good time with. Basically, it makes more sense to be thankful when someone does something they are not required or expected to do, than when someone's doing their job. Either way, being thankful never hurts.
/agree

yeah,if your buying somthing in a shop,at the counter, do you say thanks?
-same here


ON Topic:
yeah i loved the char areas, i jsut rocked really happy i left it till last as the asura area annoy'd me, also the quest layout made it repetive, imo, as in go here,partial dungeon, here,partial dungeo,meet up,

First off I believe Gw Team deserves a thank you. It has been a long time since I have enjoyed the beauty of Tyria. It was nice to come back. As stated in the many many other topics GW:EN is not a standalone campaign it is a expansion.

Def of expansion: Added content to a game that was not able to be added to normal game.

As an expansion GWEN is exactly what I expected.
1. Armors- People why are you crying about no new armors. First of all this is Tyria we are on NOT a new campaign.
2. Weapons- Again we are in Tyria NOT a new campaign
3. Story was too short- ITS A FREAKING EXPANSION NOT A STAND ALONE GAME. Hence forth it is supposed to be shorter because it is merely adding content.
4. Character slots- Everyone is very capable of spending say 10 dollars bringing total cost of GWEN to $50 to get an extra character slot. Plus why do you need another one there are no new classes.
5. Heros- I love em and so do many others. It allows me to play the game how I want it to be played. I dont have to group with people that are dumb either.
6. Grind- Needed to be added. If everyone was able to get the armors easily what would be the point. Everyone would be complaining that their was no challange. If people took half the time to farm rep. points then they did at flaming the game on guru they would have their armors all ready.
7. Grind/armors cont.- All i see are people complaining about the armors being reskins. Well if you dont like the armors why care about the grind?
8. Hom- Only thing in my opinon that needs some looking into.
9. Dungeons- Amazing addition to the game. Love it and looking forward to future content.
10. No new eleites- Lie there are new eleites granted they are pve only and do not count towards any titles but they are a blast with the personnal favorite of Ursan blessing.


Thank you and if anyone wants to farm Norn rep with me my Ign is Glyphofhealing First off you cant say this Thread and your post is not up for debate or response, because you opened the can when you said we cry. Critisim and pointing out what people are dissappointed in helps Anet, so they may better produce a future product we all might like.

1. Armors-This is Tyria? So the reskinned Canthan and NF armors make perfects sense! Oh dont mention the new races never seen before, because they all wear the same outfit anyway. Yeah, the never heard of azura sure love to make canthan armor. Glad i wasnt expecting 40 new armor sets. Glad Anet said endgame content for your lvl 20's and saying endgame armor. I am sure glad i didnt think they were going to be leet.
2. Weapons-Omg is that a green "end game" brute sword! I am soooo lucky. Wait? you mean everyone can get Dwarven Axes? Wow thats awesome, Glad theres no rare items anymore.
3. Story was too short-(non sarcastic) i agree that i wouldnt be getting alot more story or depth for an expansion.
4. Character Slot-(non sarcastic) yes i wouldnt expect a character slot. Just something everyone could possible use, and would be a nice treat Anet could of gave us.
5. Heros-(non sarcastic) No complain her, actually the best of them so far, only gripe is that they are walking around looking more leet than me.
6. Grind-(non sarcastic) I think grinding for consumables or armor is actually a great idea. The consumables are awesome, too bad the armor blows.
7. Grind/armor cont- read above ^ no gripe here, i will grind with my character for consumables.
8. HoM-I am not a title grinder, people need to understand about customizing your mini's, is that you can wait till GW2 comes out before you customise them, whats the hurry?
9. Dungeons-I like em, need a lil more variety as far as view, they all look like the deep. Reward chests for doing them suck. Do a 2 hour dungeon and get one diamond, yuck.
10. No Elites-I think its hard to figure out new skills at this time, with so many out now. I do think they could of used something to improve Air or Water magic ele's, they get no aoe, and need more variety.

Basically what i was wanting out of GWEN was alot of end game content, new original armors, new original weapons, new monsters, ect.. I expected the story to be short. What they did is get my expectations high, and shoot them down with no end game content, no new armors, half new weapons, some new monsters, no way to improve my lvl 20 character..ect.. But i think the heros are awesome, there 3 sets of armor rocks. The scenary is really nice outside, the best in any part of GW now. So i do thank them for there scenary art department, but you cant say that the warrior monument armor matches from torso to leggings, just shows a tad lazyness or carelessness. I still would of bought Gwen (maybe at a lower price eventually) if they told me the armors, monsters, ect were reskins and that after you conquer and beat the game theres no real content. That way i wouldnt feel lied to or my expectations wouldnt be so high.