Relic of Rin, Diessa's Chalice, wrong drop rate?

knifff

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

People who tryed to farm these in Cathedral of Flamme know how long it is to drop even one single piece. It's nearly absurd how low the drop rate is (arround two drop in a 8 man run °°).

Recently Anet changed the drop rate of Destroyer Core, because it was said bugged.
So I wonder if there is also a bug with the drop rate of those items.


What do you think?




Note: these are used too make two different headgears in Cathedral of Flamme.

Velvet Wing

Velvet Wing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

In your cupboard *nomming* your cookies

Blade of Souls

P/W

I fully agree with you knifff. I've done that dungeon numerous times (I believe 13 times now) and still managed to gather only 3 chalices (no relic's of rin). It is a shame cause I really would like to get a blindfold for my derv But I refuse to pay more then 1k a piece (and prices are rising) for one chalice when I need 50! to get myself the headpiece. I really hope Anet will look into this and fix teh droprates like they did with the destroyer cores (which now drop perfectly).

I do not mean to imply that people should obtain a piece of equipment easily... A little grind never hurt anyone, but doing a dungeon with a group of 8 and still not manage to get everybody a chalice seems a little stupid to me

okashii

okashii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/

about those Rin Relics I heard a rumor that they only drop from Murakai's Chest once you completed the Veiled Threat quest, can anyone confirm this ?

I tried to do that quest (it's master difficulty) with Hero's/Henches and I got whiped on the first char group in the dungeon -_-

plus just getting to that dungeon took me at least 20 min

ravensong

ravensong

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Croatia

Me/

Drop rate is a joke!

I was forced to buy all Chalices to get blindfold!

But I spent 2 days just buying em because people barely have em to sell em :/

knifff

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
about those Rin Relics I heard a rumor that they only drop from Murakai's Chest once you completed the Veiled Threat quest, can anyone confirm this ? Just a legend, as far as I know the chest drop only the item needed to complete the quest (Surmia's thing) + one random item as always.

Nebulaz

Nebulaz

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Elonia

Mo/D

I would give my left leg for 25 golden rin relics but it seams like they are more rare than onyx and Ecto combined.
In fact i think there's a better chance of a perfect req 8 crystalline dropping in that dungeon.
Please fix this O_o

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Reminds me of those Giant Tusks in the Desolation.

Farm as I might I couldn't get the damned things to drop.

Thankfully I haven't set foot in the Charr lands yet. Been too busy over Asura-side... and then levelling up my Shing Jea Rit.... and death-levelling my Pre-Sear Warrior inbetween.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Never seen one dropping. Anywhere.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

I got one chalice out of 3 runs.

And since I was farming for dwarven points and chalices/relics, I didn't fight Murkai.

The droprate is OBSCENLY low.

I'd almost be happy if they dropped from Murkai. 2k a piece sounds fairly reasonable!

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Saw 1 Chalice dropping in 8 man group... thats all. Never seen a relic.

Btw, the guy didnt pick up his Chalice...

Sprites

Sprites

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

royaume de la lumi??re :D

LOGW

E/Me

droped one chalice in 5 runs ^^

Nebulaz

Nebulaz

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Elonia

Mo/D

Just did another run of temple of the dammed.. and not a sniff of a collector drop..maybe they drop somewhere else?
The end chest didn't give me much of an incentive to try again.
I'll try again after i unlock HM.

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

Our guild hasnt had trouble getting Diessa Chalices in Cathedral, but yea those Golden Rin Relics are next to impossible to find.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Rarer than Hen's teeth.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

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undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

N/

got 4 in 2 runs(hero henchies), but, out of 20+ runs, that's it lol

xcenic

xcenic

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

the "destroyer core" drop wasnt a bug, im perfectly sure is was they puspose to made the drop OBSCENELY low, and after we complaint about it they make a excuse and come out whit the Bug thing!!! perhad....all the game is bugged: because the entire game drop is a holy sht??

Velvet Wing

Velvet Wing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

In your cupboard *nomming* your cookies

Blade of Souls

P/W

I'm all in all very dissapointed with gwen drops so far... I've quested trough many many places and just have 1 nice drop to show for
Glacial gloves where a gift from a friend, destroyer gloves are unreachable for me at this point in time, just don't have the time to farm 250 destroyer cores(!!) of them.. Although I am very happy with the fact they upgraded the droprate!! Now something would be attainable when I have a few spare free days.
Next up, diesa chalices, relics, unfindable.. makes me sad.. cause I would love to be able to get myself a blindfold and say: "Gwen was soooooooooo short and easy, I did that shit blindfolded!"

Edit for grammer purposes

OlMurraniKasale

OlMurraniKasale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Seattle

Zaishen Order

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
Rarer than Hen's teeth. Damn, that's rare! Like a woman behind every tree in Adirondack Alaska (if only they had trees).

I'm sure the drop rate is bugged. The blindfolds aren't worth that much, how can they be? You can't see 'em when you got it on.

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

I've done the Murakai dungeon 15 times (completed and killed Murakai.) So far I have 3 chalices and 0 relics to show for it.

Nobody in my guild has ever seen a relic drop and together this easily equals more than 100 player runs.

Bel

Bel

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Guildless

W/

23 runs with heroes and henchmen. 4 chalices and 0 relics.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

I don't know what's up with you guys, but I get Chalices all the time when I run Cathedral of Flames. Have yet to see a single Golden Rin Relic though.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Ok, so i just bought one...to convince myself they are real lol, and the guy said he just got it as a drop from the mobs there.

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Lol. your screenshot is so big, I only saw the top part of your inventory. For a second there I thought you salvaged your chalice/relic and got dust, just to see what the response in this thread would be

My first run through cathedral, the 2nd mob dropped a chalice for me. Haven't gotten another one since

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

So it's a mob drop eh? Seems to have a drop rate comparable to the old one Destroyer Cores had =/.

xcenic

xcenic

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

wow a golden rin relic!!! AAAALAAA AAALAAAAA /bow

1time ever see one, cep from the guy inside the cathedral

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Yeah before I saw that screen, I hadn't seen a Golden Relic ouside of the collector either. I've done it many times also, and have one chalice to show for it.

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

I done temple about 5 times total (4 with H/H and 1 human team). I've got four chalices to show for it. The last two dropped on the last run with the human team.

Standing in Doomlore it's easy to see that the chalices are pretty rare. Prices bump between 2-5k depending on the day of the week and time.

okashii

okashii

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MelechRic
I done temple about 5 times total (4 with H/H and 1 human team). I've got four chalices to show for it. The last two dropped on the last run with the human team.

Standing in Doomlore it's easy to see that the chalices are pretty rare. Prices bump between 2-5k depending on the day of the week and time.
Did you do the Veiled Threat quest before ? (rumor I explained earlier)

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

It's just like everything else in this game. :V Doing it 20 times for 4 chalices just means you aren't doing it enough. With a drop rate of 1 every 5 missions, you will have to do that dungeon 250 times. This should keep you busy until GW2.

Or, as the lich would say, "Perhaps this will slow you down long enough to let me finish my work."

Worthington

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

South Beach, FLA

APU

W/Me

ack. I've done Cathedral 7 times so far.. not a single relic or chalice.

Good thing we've got over a year to collect what we need

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Worthington
Good thing we've got over a year to collect what we need Dingdingding! We have a winner. I believe they've made these drop rates obscene to keep us playing. This isn't a bug. They eased up a little bit with the Destroyer Cores, but I get the feeling Chalice and Relic drop rates are gonna stay crappy.

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by okashii
Did you do the Veiled Threat quest before ? (rumor I explained earlier) Nope. I've yet to do the Veiled Threat quest.

In fact I did the Temple quest when it was bugged and still have an Exquisite Surmia Carving in my inventory.

Chrono Re delle Ere

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

W/

Ok, now I must say mine:

5 runs, always 2 man+6 heroes. What did I drop? 2 diessa chalices, 1 golden relic. It's all I have to say. Are you all guys acting like the ones that cryes about the glacial stones drop rate in the "100 glacial stones needed for gauntlets" thread? Everybody, just stop crying for everithing. Now, because there was 1 bug in the drop rate of 1 collector item, you immediately think about bugs here and there. Just play and you will get them. Nobody died for not getting a blindfold into 3 days ;D

BradNess

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Theives of the Abyss

P/W

20 Runs, no Relic. One Chalice. And nobody wants to take 2 years to get a dang blindfold either. I can only hope that they drop elsewhere at a better rate then the Cathedral.

chiuna

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

LOST

E/

I did three runs in a row the other day. The first two times I got none and on the last run I got three chalices. I did see them dropping for other group members on my first two runs though - the drop rate for chalices seems normal to me. I never did see any of those golden rin relics though.

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Re delle Ere
Ok, now I must say mine:

5 runs, always 2 man+6 heroes. What did I drop? 2 diessa chalices, 1 golden relic. It's all I have to say. Are you all guys acting like the ones that cryes about the glacial stones drop rate in the "100 glacial stones needed for gauntlets" thread? Everybody, just stop crying for everithing. Now, because there was 1 bug in the drop rate of 1 collector item, you immediately think about bugs here and there. Just play and you will get them. Nobody died for not getting a blindfold into 3 days ;D All that proves is that you're a luckbox who can't possibly fathom that everyone else aren't equally fortunate.

I'll repeat - I have done 17 runs now. Never a relic. Nobody else in my guild, and we do that dungeon quite often, has ever seen one drop.

Atom

Atom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Chi-Town

Charter Vanguard [CV]

D/

Did cathredal of flames 11 times with hero/hench today. Not one challice or relic. The drop rate has to be insanley low.

When I do glints challenge with h/h I average 4-5 destoyer cores each time.

Fox Reeveheart

Fox Reeveheart

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Michigan

none q.q

D/

i have never seen a golden rin relic. I want that dread mask too x.x

I did cathedral one time and got 1 chalice... i'll probably sell it, i don't want a stupid blindfold.

I'll sell it tomorrow.. but with my luck the drops will be fixed when i get on in the morning. =p suddenly my 2k item is 200g.. bleh

Kaida the Heartless

Kaida the Heartless

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

N/

40 runs, 1 chalice.

I'm not beating the dungeon 2000 times to get my item(s). The drop rate needs to be fixed! :/