How the encounter with Pyre Fierceshot should have gone:
Gwen: *angry noises, flogging Pyre mercilessly with her wand*
Pyre: *angry noises, taunts*
You: Well, what have we here? Gwen, stop killing him for a second.
Gwen: *complaining*
Pyre: *taunts you about your lost Ebon Vanguard comrades*
You: *inquires not-so-politely about Ebon Vanguard whereabouts*
Pyre: *derisive mocking*
Gwen: OK, screw this. *uses her Mesmer powers to burn a glowy little mark on Pyre's forehead saying "This Charr belongs to (player character) and is bound to his will, because Domination mesmers can do that, b*tch." *self-satisfied laugh* Now talk, hairball.
Pyre: *spews insults and taunts, glowy mark flares brightly, howls in agony*
You: Wrong answer. Try again.
Pyre: *grudgingly reveals details*
You: Good, Charr, good. As long as I have you at my beck and call, I think you should make yourself useful. Pick up that bow, and fall in line, until I think of a better use for you.
Pyre *growls* My NAME is PYRE! PYRE FIERCESHOT! And when I remove this cursed mark from my forehead, I will write my name on the ground with your entrails, you... *glowy mark flares* AAAAAGH!
You: Wow, that's a neat trick, Gwen. How long will it last?
Gwen: As long as it needs to.
"Good" Charr = fail.
OI-812
Kakumei
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And how on earth is this radically different from what actually occurred? Why does the magical (and painful!) bondage appeal to you so much?
kazjun
Mmm, Gwen and bondage FTW
Though that's probably more Livia's thing...
Though that's probably more Livia's thing...
KANE OG
Stupid thread = Well..... just that.
KANE
KANE
OI-812
All Charr = bastards, sworn enemies of anything that isn't a Charr. The whole idea of "Well, we're a different caste, we're not in the same boat as them, I don't like them much either *snivel* *sulk*" is asinine. So how do you make a hateful bastard like him cooperate? Make him hurt, a lot.
Also, what do my sexual proclivities and tastes in artwork and pornography have to do with this? If you're making the all-too-common allusion that because of my tastes I get a total hard-on for the Charr and I think they're awesome and blahblahblah, you're an arrogant (and incorrect) moron. I really don't care what the hell the Charr look like for the purposes of my rewrite (or the plot of the damn game), whether they look like furrybait or midget Martians or whatever. The fact of the story is: Charr bad. Charr hate us. "Good" Charr = bulls**t.
EDIT: I seriously think they should have made a Mesmer Domination offhand that was a coiled whip.
Also, what do my sexual proclivities and tastes in artwork and pornography have to do with this? If you're making the all-too-common allusion that because of my tastes I get a total hard-on for the Charr and I think they're awesome and blahblahblah, you're an arrogant (and incorrect) moron. I really don't care what the hell the Charr look like for the purposes of my rewrite (or the plot of the damn game), whether they look like furrybait or midget Martians or whatever. The fact of the story is: Charr bad. Charr hate us. "Good" Charr = bulls**t.
EDIT: I seriously think they should have made a Mesmer Domination offhand that was a coiled whip.
Bryant Again
Forced Character = fail. I'm not a sick son of a bitch - not because of the bondage, but because my character and myself would never, ever be that cruel.
MisterB
I'd prefer not to be cast in the role of a sadist, thanks. Also, have you heard the phrase, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." ? I think the Charr revolt made perfect sense.
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Forced Character = fail. I'm not a sick son of a bitch - not because of the bondage, but because my character and myself would never, ever be that cruel.
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Vitas
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I'd prefer not to be cast in the role of a sadist, thanks. Also, have you heard the phrase, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." ? I think the Charr revolt made perfect sense.
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Now, that traitorous "hero" Anton isn't worth spit and I won't use him at all... well maybe as bait when I farm the rabbit hole -- bwahahahaha
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Wolf Kain
Well, you seem to be taking a game pretty seriously.
Darlichay Dalinar
To add a SERIOUS note to this... I'm excited to see how they handle Charr in GW2...
OI-812
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Well, you seem to be taking a game pretty seriously.
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Sekkira
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The fact of the story is: Charr bad. Charr hate us. "Good" Charr = bulls**t.
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Croco Clouds
I still don't understand the real purpose of this thread, i am lost lol
Wolf Kain
So, you're complaining about a detail, in someone else's work, of which they are free to do whatever they wish with?
I could understand your anger if it was you who wrote the original story.
I could understand your anger if it was you who wrote the original story.
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Charr aren't real. Charr are a race created by the designers in ArenaNet. ArenaNet can do whatever the hell they want with the Charr. So good Charr != bullshit.
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I still don't understand the real purpose of this thread, i am lost lol
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Bryant Again
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What you just said is a clear indicator of why storylines suck in games today for the most part. Apathy. Would you like it if Valve made the G-Man a good guy AND a playable character in the next Half-Life? Would you like it if Bethesda Softworks made an imaginary super-vault and talking Deathclaws appear in the Fallout world? (oh wait, that already happened... nvm, Fallout's hosed anyway) Or perhaps you'd like to see Mario go Quentin Tarantino on a dark, brooding crime-ridden Mushroom Kingdom, psychedelic mushrooms and flamethrower in hand?
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Unless you're deliberately seeing past that...?
Sekkira
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What you just said is a clear indicator of why storylines suck in games today for the most part. Apathy. Would you like it if Valve made the G-Man a good guy AND a playable character in the next Half-Life? Would you like it if Bethesda Softworks made an imaginary super-vault and talking Deathclaws appear in the Fallout world? (oh wait, that already happened... nvm, Fallout's hosed anyway) Or perhaps you'd like to see Mario go Quentin Tarantino on a dark, brooding crime-ridden Mushroom Kingdom, psychedelic mushrooms and flamethrower in hand?
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Stop whining. You don't decide what someone else's work will be. If you don't like the story, don't pay attention to it. Simple as that. Not all stories are catered to your particular likes and dislikes, grow up.
Also, if you played on with Pyre, you'd find that while he joins you willingly, he's not the goodie two shoes ally you seem to be portraying him as. He just sees reason and that his enemies are also yours, joining with you is a clear minded decision.
1 up and 2 down
Anet never said he was "good" as pyre said himself some charr are less evil than other charr.
arcanemacabre
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Forced Character = fail. I'm not a sick son of a bitch - not because of the bondage, but because my character and myself would never, ever be that cruel.
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Believe it or not, Pyre is not nearly as one-dimensional as Gwen. He may not be deep, but he is more than just "Arrrgh, I will kill you all!!"
FelixCarter
Lol wut. Bondage?
I actually imagined Pyre to be a little more...
Wise and understanding of humans. He's a little more rugged and mean than I anticipated, but meh. He is Charr, afterall.
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Lol...
Bondage.
I actually imagined Pyre to be a little more...
Wise and understanding of humans. He's a little more rugged and mean than I anticipated, but meh. He is Charr, afterall.
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Lol...
Bondage.
Alex Morningstar
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I've never played Fallout so I couldn't care. ?
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KvanCetre
Lamethread is laaaaaaaaaaaame
Chicken Ftw
/improves thread
Shadis
There are no good Charr.
"Some of us are more evil than others." Pyre is one evil dude, he just doesn't have a grudge against Humans like the rest of them do.
"Some of us are more evil than others." Pyre is one evil dude, he just doesn't have a grudge against Humans like the rest of them do.
acidic
if you guys thinks that sadistic then you definitely should not play god of war.
Aeon221
Pyre: I <3 <3 <3 me some human killin!
Gwen: Shitbonerz, let there be purple glow! My PMS will destroy you!
Pyre: Lol noob, do you not know that RANGERS are the true interruptors?! Suck DSHOT on your weeny skillz
Gwen: I've got the power to bleed and cry at the same time!
Pyre: r9 biatch
Gwen: =(
You: lol Gwen, you pve nub. Pyre, lets go raid Droks for ph4t l3wt.
Pyre: r9 biatch
You: =(
Gwen: Shitbonerz, let there be purple glow! My PMS will destroy you!
Pyre: Lol noob, do you not know that RANGERS are the true interruptors?! Suck DSHOT on your weeny skillz
Gwen: I've got the power to bleed and cry at the same time!
Pyre: r9 biatch
Gwen: =(
You: lol Gwen, you pve nub. Pyre, lets go raid Droks for ph4t l3wt.
Pyre: r9 biatch
You: =(
Bryant Again
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if you guys thinks that sadistic then you definitely should not play god of war.
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lol.
wetsparks
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Even though I'm not a cruel person, I get a deliciously nasty satisfactian after I cleave a minotaur's skull in half. Of course, they're 100% evil, so it's safe.
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FelixCarter
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Pyre: I <3 <3 <3 me some human killin!
Gwen: Shitbonerz, let there be purple glow! My PMS will destroy you! Pyre: Lol noob, do you not know that RANGERS are the true interruptors?! Suck DSHOT on your weeny skillz Gwen: I've got the power to bleed and cry at the same time! Pyre: r9 biatch Gwen: =( You: lol Gwen, you pve nub. Pyre, lets go raid Droks for ph4t l3wt. Pyre: r9 biatch You: =( |
I'm on my floor loling my ass off and rofling everywhere.
BlackSephir
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Forced Character = fail. I'm not a sick son of a bitch - not because of the bondage, but because my character and myself would never, ever be that cruel.
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That's what's wrong with MMORPGs... They're MMO alright but not RPG enough.
*sigh*
My lil Assa is acting like all do-gooder, saying that he understands everyone and all... What kind of people go to Shing Jea to become Assassins and save the world? The hell?
"Ok Pyre, here's the deal. First, you'll help us find Ebon Vanguard or I'm going to go Boa-Sin on your ass. Then I'll think about finding your friends"
/slits throat after Vanguard is rescued.
*sigh*
Real MMORPG is yet to come.
Superdarth
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How the encounter with Pyre Fierceshot should have gone:
Gwen: *angry noises, flogging Pyre mercilessly with her wand* Pyre: *angry noises, taunts* You: Well, what have we here? Gwen, stop killing him for a second. Gwen: *complaining* Pyre: *taunts you about your lost Ebon Vanguard comrades* You: *inquires not-so-politely about Ebon Vanguard whereabouts* Pyre: *derisive mocking* Gwen: OK, screw this. *uses her Mesmer powers to burn a glowy little mark on Pyre's forehead saying "This Charr belongs to (player character) and is bound to his will, because Domination mesmers can do that, b*tch." *self-satisfied laugh* Now talk, hairball. Pyre: *spews insults and taunts, glowy mark flares brightly, howls in agony* You: Wrong answer. Try again. Pyre: *grudgingly reveals details* You: Good, Charr, good. As long as I have you at my beck and call, I think you should make yourself useful. Pick up that bow, and fall in line, until I think of a better use for you. Pyre *growls* My NAME is PYRE! PYRE FIERCESHOT! And when I remove this cursed mark from my forehead, I will write my name on the ground with your entrails, you... *glowy mark flares* AAAAAGH! You: Wow, that's a neat trick, Gwen. How long will it last? Gwen: As long as it needs to. |
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WinterSnowblind
It wouldn't make sense for there to be a race that exist only to harm people and hate everything. The Charr were evil because they believed their Gods wanted them to destroy the humans. When it becomes clear that the Titans aren't Gods, obviously some of them would start asking questions.
It's actually very similar to the Covenant storyline in the Halo series, and to a lesser extent, the Klingons in Star Trek. Bad guys that are that cool have to become good guys eventually.
It's actually very similar to the Covenant storyline in the Halo series, and to a lesser extent, the Klingons in Star Trek. Bad guys that are that cool have to become good guys eventually.
FelixCarter
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It's actually very similar to the Covenant storyline in the Halo series, and to a lesser extent, the Klingons in Star Trek. Bad guys that are that cool have to become good guys eventually.
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It's usually the smart and cunning ones who learn "wtf" in life before everyone else. And we all know the type of "Aura" Rangers come with automatically...
Matfei
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All Charr = bastards, sworn enemies of anything that isn't a Charr. The whole idea of "Well, we're a different caste, we're not in the same boat as them, I don't like them much either *snivel* *sulk*" is asinine. So how do you make a hateful bastard like him cooperate? Make him hurt, a lot.
Also, what do my sexual proclivities and tastes in artwork and pornography have to do with this? If you're making the all-too-common allusion that because of my tastes I get a total hard-on for the Charr and I think they're awesome and blahblahblah, you're an arrogant (and incorrect) moron. I really don't care what the hell the Charr look like for the purposes of my rewrite (or the plot of the damn game), whether they look like furrybait or midget Martians or whatever. The fact of the story is: Charr bad. Charr hate us. "Good" Charr = bulls**t. EDIT: I seriously think they should have made a Mesmer Domination offhand that was a coiled whip. |
Redfeather1975
Charr and human becoming friends is nothing new.
I think the idea of enemies becoming friends was invented in 1985.
Yah!
I think the idea of enemies becoming friends was invented in 1985.
Yah!
Pericles
I think the OP is kinda right one this one, this is exactly where Domination Magic could come into play, albeit a little less painful then the OP suggested but still i like the idea of Gwen dominating Pyre Fierceshot, just because the Charr are a BEASTY race and i don't like the look of non-evil Charr...
Kakumei
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Would you like it if Bethesda Softworks made an imaginary super-vault and talking Deathclaws appear in the Fallout world? (oh wait, that already happened... nvm, Fallout's hosed anyway)
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Because right now, Pyre = Ewok. And he should probably equal... well, eff if I know, but it needs to be better than a lame ass Ewok.
FeroxC
Kukemai - Yes beasts that have no logical reason for their cruelty are best of all, only humans need justification 