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undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

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13 Sep 2007 at 18:17 - 1

kk, yesterday guilde want a choas glove so badly, then i decided to run him from Eye of the north to Grotto, to farm snowmans for rank 5 dwarven points. when we got to grotto, i suddenly notice that we can go to the Transfer Chamber simplely just by beating the quest Destructive Depth, then we tried(was LF someone with the quest actived), guy with the quest talked to the king in Battledepth, and guess what, me and guilde are in the Destructive Depth! simplely done the quest and we are in the center transfer chamber

however, we didnt do the Heart of shiverpeaks quest, thus can not fight the great destroyer, but if u just do the same and find a person who have the Heart Of Shiverpeaks quest actived, then after complet the it, to kill the Great Destroyer quest will actived. so yea, if u really tierd of play the whole thing over and over(was my 4th char getting through), u might just use this method to avoid those annoying Asuras

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

13 Sep 2007 at 18:31 - 2

Wow. I really don't think ANET intended for that to happen. lol, but nice trick anyways

gloria vander belt

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

Dragons Lair

United Farmers Of Europe[FOE]

W/

13 Sep 2007 at 18:36 - 3

Damn it theres always some way to cheat in these games (I.E-Run's, Power leveling E.T.C).....Thats why i liked factions u pretty much had to do most off ur own back(accept for people offering to run masters)...what ever happened to buying a game and doing it off ur own back???, like Zelda on the 1st nintendo before cheats were invented, there was no possible shortcut in that game at all....same as mystic quest legend on super nintendo

now game designers make it available to "cheat" in the smallest and simple-ist of ways

god it really grates my nerves

wilderness

tinyurl.com/6hqar7a

Join Date: Mar 2006

We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO]

W/N

13 Sep 2007 at 18:39 - 4

Neat shortcut

You can run to Slavers Exile without completing the game if a member of your party has. Not sure if you can take the dungeon, but it lets you craft destroyer weapons.

Valeria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Germany

PaRe

W/

13 Sep 2007 at 20:18 - 5

Quote:

Damn it theres always some way to cheat in these games (I.E-Run's, Power leveling E.T.C).....

Honestly if you have 10 characters noone wants to play every part of the game again and again. And i think nobody would use something like a droknars run the first time he plays the game. I see nothing bad in beating the game once or twice and then taking shortcuts for all the other chars.

Uber Mass

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

retired from gw [agro] still ftw

W/

13 Sep 2007 at 22:45 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valeria

Honestly if you have 10 characters noone wants to play every part of the game again and again. And i think nobody would use something like a droknars run the first time he plays the game. I see nothing bad in beating the game once or twice and then taking shortcuts for all the other chars.

imho you have to play primaries at least... ill just play the game as its supposed to with my chars.. and i hope they fix this bug...

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

13 Sep 2007 at 23:33 - 7

Rarg... this is like taxi thing in Kamadan.

A bug that should be reported.

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

[트두므s], Guild Leader

Mo/

13 Sep 2007 at 23:52 - 8

Said it in a diffrent post (cant find it at the moment ) but all a player has to do is be at Eye of the North Outpost, have a "taxi" who has beaten the game take them throught the Heart of shiverpeaks and so on until you get to the great destroyer, about an hour and a half total time to beat the game....

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

14 Sep 2007 at 01:00 - 9

I'd be careful of this. ANet have been going crazy as hell with bans as of late, so watch yo' self.

wilderness

tinyurl.com/6hqar7a

Join Date: Mar 2006

We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO]

W/N

14 Sep 2007 at 01:15 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I'd be careful of this. ANet have been going crazy as hell with bans as of late, so watch yo' self.

Kamadan Taxis and Droks runs, amongst other shortcuts, are now staple. You've absolutely no worry of a ban here.

trielementz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Spectra Sg [SpcA]

W/Mo

14 Sep 2007 at 01:18 - 11

ban? don't see why. this is no worse than running..

and let's not publicize this until i test it out further with my ele. (him wanting the dwarven armor set fast has nothing to do with it. nothing!)

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

14 Sep 2007 at 01:21 - 12

Anet really did bugger up alot of things with this expansion... there seem to be so many ways to cut corners and abuse badly made quests.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

14 Sep 2007 at 01:43 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I'd be careful of this. ANet have been going crazy as hell with bans as of late, so watch yo' self.

Eh, well 1st of all there is no way this is a bannable offense.
2nd of all, the # of bans reccently is no worse then at any other time. I just think we are getting more morons posting about them here on guru then we used to (because mods here used to be much more strict about shutting stuff like that down).

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

14 Sep 2007 at 02:07 - 14

Quote:

Honestly if you have 10 characters noone wants to play every part of the game again and again.

I'll never understand this mentality. Why do you HAVE multiple characters if you don't want to PLAY multiple characters?

trielementz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Spectra Sg [SpcA]

W/Mo

14 Sep 2007 at 02:13 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinraith

I'll never understand this mentality. Why do you HAVE multiple characters if you don't want to PLAY multiple characters?

Because we took different characters into different campaigns and now suffer from armor lust?

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

14 Sep 2007 at 02:16 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinraith

I'll never understand this mentality. Why do you HAVE multiple characters if you don't want to PLAY multiple characters?

Er... because we don't want to go through the same lame ass primary quests we've got the t-shirt for 4 times already? Take Tyria... you may like the Jungle, personally i hate it. The missions suck, the primaries are tedious and the mobs are annoying. After going through several times i will get a run to Sanctum Cay, get ran around the Desert and carry on from there vs enemies that are actually even remotely challenging.

Just like how i'm pretty sure wandering around Drakkar Lake looking for a Nornbear that i've already killed 18 times before in an explorable but was stopped by its Auto-Divine Intervention, will get a bit dull after i've done it 4 times.

I do however want to complete the Titan Quests on this character, and the quickest way to do so is to get a run.

AnnaCloud9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Minnesota

Well if you're bored, then you're boring!

R/

14 Sep 2007 at 02:20 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinraith

I'll never understand this mentality. Why do you HAVE multiple characters if you don't want to PLAY multiple characters?

1 does the dirty work, while the others stand and clutter towns pretending to look important in FoW armor, or make PUGs unbearable because they may know how to use a B/P ranger but can't for the life of them understand how monk protection skills function - when they're playing their monk. Believe me, I'm with you on this.

6am3 Fana71c

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

14 Sep 2007 at 02:48 - 18

Great trick. I hope it lasts long enough, I didn't got EotN yet, but once I do, I'm sure as hell I ain't gonna do it with all my chars. I'll just complete it with my main, and then run the monk so he can get those cool glasses

P.S. As for people who complain - I don't see how this effects anyone. If you choose to blaze trough game instead of going slowly, it's your decision. And it's great we have an option to play our way.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

14 Sep 2007 at 03:56 - 19

I reckon that everyone would do all the quests and missions first up, but after that? People should be able to play what they want rather than being led around by the nose and being told you HAVE to play THIS next (I'm looking at you, Factions). And if people decide to skip stuff first time round, I reckon that's their choice too. They're just robbing themselves of some of what they paid for. Not anyone else's business. And they have a year or two to go back and do whatever before GW2 comes anyway. Besides, they'll have to spend weeks grinding to get anything anyway.

As for people being skilled players, well this is an expansion. Meaning that they must have at least some skill, right? And they haven't figured out how a class works, well, it's not a runner's fault. It's the person's fault. Just don't party with them again if you reckon they're too noob.

And as for why people have multiple chars? Maybe people are trying to learn more than one class. Like you want the ranger too understand how a monk works. Doesn't mean they want to have to grind the easy crap they've done multiple times again.

Fr_3_aK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

14 Sep 2007 at 05:11 - 20

This will be stopped in a update soon. I suggest you exploit it now while u still can.

I just tagged along with my rit, thanks to the ppl that took me

plasmasword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

14 Sep 2007 at 05:16 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

Great trick. I hope it lasts long enough, I didn't got EotN yet, but once I do, I'm sure as hell I ain't gonna do it with all my chars. I'll just complete it with my main, and then run the monk so he can get those cool glasses

P.S. As for people who complain - I don't see how this effects anyone. If you choose to blaze trough game instead of going slowly, it's your decision. And it's great we have an option to play our way.

Sadly the part you avoid is the asura which is the race you need to get rank5 of to craft glasses.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

14 Sep 2007 at 05:24 - 22

I guess after 3 bans I'm finally starting to get a little paranoid.

Meh.

sing85

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/A

22 Sep 2007 at 07:42 - 23

is this still working?

Classic Monk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Dareis Mai [MAI]

Mo/

22 Sep 2007 at 08:03 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilderness

Neat shortcut

You can run to Slavers Exile without completing the game if a member of your party has. Not sure if you can take the dungeon, but it lets you craft destroyer weapons.

This was fixed.

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

22 Sep 2007 at 08:07 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uber Mass

imho you have to play primaries at least... ill just play the game as its supposed to with my chars.. and i hope they fix this bug...

I'm hoping they leave it alone. Hopefully it doesn't create problems for people who want to return to the primaries though. It's just an expansion and the primaries include several different dungeon quests. I would agree that if you have one of every character like me, there's good reason for you to take the shortcut to the end region, where the farming is better. You've got to farm to craft certain things, and for many people, that's one of the most fun parts of the game.

Personally, I'd rather play Glint's Challenge in repetition on any character I choose than play through the primaries several times over all characters to get there.

I don't think it's the intended design, though. I think they'd rather have a few people still advertising to join certain questing parties than everyone making a rush to the end.

kielus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

MU-Tants [MU]

22 Sep 2007 at 10:11 - 26

well happened to me aswell first time by accident, wanted to help guildie with heart of shiverpeaks (with char that just got to eotn), then we followed with destruction depths. I knew that sometimes when you skip certain parts of quests you don't get rewards and they don't appear as 'completed' in your quest log.

But if you complete HoS and DD one after another (without leaving explorable areas) it counts as done. Whatever it is i'm happy. Keep in mind if you do destruction depths only it won't let you kill great destroyer himself.

Even if just to have an outpost just next to dwarf camp in battledepths and near HoS to get to gadd's encampment.

Lita Goddess Of War

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Springs id1

We Fail In Everything We Do [True] as Guild Leader (伞回伞 Alliance)

E/

22 Sep 2007 at 13:27 - 27

Yet another GG by Anet lol
Whats next??

One last chance in bonus mission to charm a pet Goat but I fear my prayers have fallen on deaf ears

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

22 Sep 2007 at 13:39 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloria vander belt

Damn it theres always some way to cheat in these games (I.E-Run's, Power leveling E.T.C).....Thats why i liked factions u pretty much had to do most off ur own back(accept for people offering to run masters)...what ever happened to buying a game and doing it off ur own back???, like Zelda on the 1st nintendo before cheats were invented, there was no possible shortcut in that game at all....same as mystic quest legend on super nintendo

now game designers make it available to "cheat" in the smallest and simple-ist of ways

god it really grates my nerves

What ever happened to creativity and exploration? Not everyone wants to do mindless sequence of *exactly the same* quests, killing *exactly the same mobs* in *exactly the same spot* every time.

If they made the storyline at least a tiny bit interesting, some might replay it.

But replay value in GW is sorely lacking, and comes from other activities. Dungeons, elite areas, farming, pvp, armor and equipment. Neither of those are described anywhere through a long sequence of prerequisites.

Is quest stacking in WoW also wrong? So I should do it like it was meant, one at a time? What about grinding vs. questing, so you can optimize leveling?

People like different things. And doing the same (completely lame in GW:EN) storyline to get to the one or two worthwhile things that are in the entire expansion, storyline is just a redundant roadblock.

Some people don't like mindless grind (forced storyline is grind, and a very bad one at that). Sadly, WoW comparison is in place. You can go anywhere you want there, you're never forced into a boring sequence of steps, there's hundred ways to progress at any point, not a whole total of ~10 quests and long walks in the park to get between the outposts.

Running were originally advertised as a key feature of GW. Anet knew, that people will get fed up of doing the same thing over and over.

But apparently, people do like that. So here we are, with a mindless grindfest, where you need to be lead around through a lame quest story like an idiot.

Different strokes for different folks. But I've seen the story once. I know what happens. It'll be exactly the same the next time. If they even tried to add a tiny random parts it might make it less painful. But right now, just do whatever. People skipping this part don't hurt anyone in any way.

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

22 Sep 2007 at 14:52 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloria vander belt

Damn it theres always some way to cheat in these games (I.E-Run's, Power leveling E.T.C).....Thats why i liked factions u pretty much had to do most off ur own back(accept for people offering to run masters)...what ever happened to buying a game and doing it off ur own back???, like Zelda on the 1st nintendo before cheats were invented, there was no possible shortcut in that game at all....same as mystic quest legend on super nintendo

now game designers make it available to "cheat" in the smallest and simple-ist of ways

god it really grates my nerves

The games you refer to were very simple games in terms of design. This was driven by hardware limitations (only so much content you can fit on an old NES/SNES cartridge).

The more complicated things get, the more likely the designers are to make a mistake with the mechanics and unintentionally create an exploit. Streaming content helps alleviate this problem somewhat (since you can FORCE everyone to fix their copy of the game in order to play), but it's a certainty that exploits will exist in any modern game at release. There's just too much code to debug and possible ways to break the system for any limited group of testers to find all the problems.

Personally, I *like* finding all the ways to abuse the game. Games tend to get stale for me when finding creative ways to get a small competitive edge cease to exist. ANet's current method of PvP "balancing" yields few enough viable team builds to realistically permit much outside-the-box thinking, which is a large part of why I rarely touch HA or GvG these days.

The guild currently has a dungeon we "exploit" in order to complete it repeatedly in about 12 minutes. This has a nice effect for us - lots of drops and cash, much faster than we could otherwise manage. If the possibility of finding such creative methods to accomplish objectives in the game didn't exist, I'd have quit playing already.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

22 Sep 2007 at 14:56 - 30

Well this is the definition of an "open ended" RPG!!

Vestar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

22 Sep 2007 at 16:40 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by gloria vander belt

Damn it theres always some way to cheat in these games (I.E-Run's, Power leveling E.T.C).....Thats why i liked factions u pretty much had to do most off ur own back(accept for people offering to run masters)...what ever happened to buying a game and doing it off ur own back???, like Zelda on the 1st nintendo before cheats were invented, there was no possible shortcut in that game at all....same as mystic quest legend on super nintendo

now game designers make it available to "cheat" in the smallest and simple-ist of ways

god it really grates my nerves

this isnt true...at all. im not sure if you could skip dungeons in the original zelda, but i know that if you knew the secret locations of the super ring and shield you could breeze through the whole game easily. and in the original mario for snes (not the original nintendo), you could skip everything between the first and last stage by finding the special item (i think it was a flute) and using it to access the secret warp tunnels. as for mystic quest legend...i've never heard of this game, but for every generic game you name for the nintendo or super nintendo, i can name two that featured some kind of secret that allowed you to bypass content or make it much easier.

Voltar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

My dog let's me crash at her place.

POB

R/

22 Sep 2007 at 16:56 - 32

Yeah, because beating GW:EN the normal way takes FOREVER...

Oh, wait...

Nevermind. I've only taken a couple characters through...three times on my rit since I wanted to keep turning in for the Asura faction (she looks HOT in glasses).

I'm not really sure why anyone would want to, "get to the end," of GW:EN. The greens there are terrible. It's not like playing the whole campaign is difficult or takes any time.

I guess it's for the same reason that people actually pay to beat Abaddon...

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

22 Sep 2007 at 17:04 - 33

Start doing it now, because if this gets reported it WILL most certainly be correct on Monday.

And its NOT subject to banning, so enjoy it while it lasts.

t h i n e eyes b l e e d

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Finland, Vantaa

Sasquatch Squad [LAME]

Rt/

22 Sep 2007 at 17:12 - 34

What's wrong with the shortcut? I mean if you cant beat the great destroyer? You will only be able to craft the armor and do the challenge....... Right?

kielus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

MU-Tants [MU]

22 Sep 2007 at 19:06 - 35

you CAN beat the great destroyer...
when i have to live with feeling that i'll have to redo the whole storyline (which is actually cool, exciting etc. but WAY too slow and too short at same time), just to whack that mecha-dragon wannabie to get these super skinned weapons.... i feel bad.... really bad

i agree with martin to some point, cause grinding the way they make me grind makes me feel even worse. If there is way to skip some parts of certain areas to make the way to drops faster, or the run more efficient in good stuff then why not?

Vanessa Dwager

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

23 Sep 2007 at 00:37 - 36

Well, time to:

Do all the dungeons at least one
Get all the Gwen heroes
Play the Dwarven Boxing
Fight in the Norn Tournament
Play through polymock (I hate it but having a mursaat follow me around is cool)
Rank 5 Norn, Asura, Ebon. (I plan to max it during Hard mode but some people just want armor)
Beat the rest of the missions you skipped.

Do that in two hours.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

23 Sep 2007 at 04:06 - 37

no u cant beat the great destroyer anymore -_- they fixed it. you can still do the mission and get to the transfer chamber but no way of getting in the last mission

sing85

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

E/A

23 Sep 2007 at 12:42 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown1

no u cant beat the great destroyer anymore -_- they fixed it. you can still do the mission and get to the transfer chamber but no way of getting in the last mission

that is very sad

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

23 Sep 2007 at 14:47 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown1

no u cant beat the great destroyer anymore -_- they fixed it. you can still do the mission and get to the transfer chamber but no way of getting in the last mission

Really? I just did it. My warrior had only gotten as far as EotN. I got ina group and we did Destructions Depths. Got to CTC and we in and beat the Great Destroyer. Got credit for them both in my Handbook too.

There is no fix, but there's a parallel bug. If one of your chars has not gone to the Far Shiverpeaks yet, they can't at the moment. The crevasses aren't clickable anymore, making it impossible to explore it. So on one end, you got ab ug that let's new to EotN chars go straight to CTC and end game, but on the other you have one that doesn't allow chars you want to get to EotN to get there.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

23 Sep 2007 at 19:56 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by trobinson97

Really? I just did it. My warrior had only gotten as far as EotN. I got ina group and we did Destructions Depths. Got to CTC and we in and beat the Great Destroyer. Got credit for them both in my Handbook too.

There is no fix, but there's a parallel bug. If one of your chars has not gone to the Far Shiverpeaks yet, they can't at the moment. The crevasses aren't clickable anymore, making it impossible to explore it. So on one end, you got ab ug that let's new to EotN chars go straight to CTC and end game, but on the other you have one that doesn't allow chars you want to get to EotN to get there.

Hmm... i'll try it again today. but i attempted it 5 times yesterday. (diff chars).
and same result everytime.