"What do you expect from the PvP expansion?"

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Taki
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
Say what?

Now my bro's a smart guy... but the question in the title could make even his mother think otherwise. First of all, there hasn't been jack said about a PvP expansion or anything resembling it. Then of course there's the fact that the majority of the community prefers PvE only. ANet realized this and responded by shifting their focus primarily to please (appease?) the larger customerbase. Nothing wrong with that - it's business lil' man, you'll understand when you grow up. And don't forget how poor Andrew Patrick has been turned into a PvP martyr, shunned by his own colleagues who laugh and throw corn chips at him while he sits in the dark, unheated, corner office. Given all this I had to question my bro's sanity, being careful of his fragile mental state.

"Well, if eotn is virtually a[n] [unfinished] PvE expansion, wouldn't you think they'll release a mostly PvP expansion down the road? What else do you expect they would do after putting the finishing touches on eotn to keep people interested until GW2?" Haven't they catered to both audiences in the past?

I was shocked. What happened to him and why didn't I notice it earlier?? Maybe I could have done something to save him... maybe I could have done something to slow it down. More importantly, how would my life be like if I had to take care of him... would I feel bad if I dumped him at Shady Acres or would I have to give him the Old Yeller treatment?

Gently I explained to him that the 'finishing touches' for eotn included bug fixes, a few carrots here and there, as well as hard mode. Then I reminded him of how long it took for HM to be released for DoA - and how much larger eotn is compared to it. I brought up the work necessary to push the bonus missions out by November and development for GW2, even split accross the two teams. No, there is already too much for ANet to do from here and beyond GW2 for them to piece together a PvP centered expansion.

And "catered to both audiences?" I told him to leave the past behind because like his relationship with that hot green-eyed girl, it was full of painfull memories, broken promises, lies, love triangles, and $3000 in autobody repair bills.

That said, I can't remember a time in my life where he has ever been wrong. So...... what do you expect from the PvP expansion?
Star Gazer
Star Gazer
Wilds Pathfinder
#2
more nerfs and buffs like they have been doing. QQ
Bryant Again
Bryant Again
Hall Hero
#3
I'm hoping for lots, but expecting nothing.
axe
axe
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
I would be more than happy paying for

1) 8v8 Random Arenas leech free
2) 12v12 organized AB
3) Sealed and Draft Tournaments
4) Balthazar Factions NPC's offering weapons, armor, items for faction
5) A seperate HA arena that was the old Tombs version (Altar Cap)
6) Maybe include a way for a pure PUG team to play a GvG, like an outpost that you could go to and PUG a team to face GvG opponents. (Probably have to do something about the ladder because of that I dont know)
thezed
thezed
Krytan Explorer
#5
My money is on their never being a "PvP Expansion". Anet made EotN focus on PvE partially because PvP players were getting upset about the massive imbalances introduced every new chapter. Making EotN PvE focused minimized it's effects on the PvP meta-game.
DreamWind
DreamWind
Forge Runner
#6
Um...there isn't going to be a PvP expansion. Anet gave up on real PvP.
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cjb909
Ascalonian Squire
#7
I also don't think there will be a huge PVP expansion. There's already a concern that there isn't a big enough PvP population to support all the different game types, making more arenas would make things worse. Do you want more places like Jade Quarry? Its the same reason the Dragon Arena and Beatle Racing aren't offered all the time.
Mr. G
Mr. G
Desert Nomad
#8
I dont see anything theyd add to PvP to warrent its own expansion...
glountz
glountz
Jungle Guide
#9
I don't know, a ping that can reach 20000?
Skuld
Skuld
Furnace Stoker
#10
PvP isn't profitable, there is no reason for them to release one.
Dougal Kronik
Dougal Kronik
Forge Runner
#11
I don't see an expansion in the future, but possibly a few small free updates.
m
mafia cyborg
Frost Gate Guardian
#12
1vs1 is coming.
it will be based on ideas from polymock.
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Taki
Lion's Arch Merchant
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by thezed
My money is on their never being a "PvP Expansion". Anet made EotN focus on PvE partially because PvP players were getting upset about the massive imbalances introduced every new chapter. Making EotN PvE focused minimized it's effects on the PvP meta-game.
Imbalances and other issues after new chapters are understandable. So too should it be that players expect the mess to be straightened out within a reasonable timeframe. But let's not bother Sea Biscuit.

I don't agree that more PvP arenas = bad because there's not enough people to play or split among them. Create something fun and entertaining and people will play it. Look at the still popular dragon arena and rollerbeetle racing. PvPers, PvErs and hybrids can all be seen there. People also like Jade Quarry but it would probably see more action if it was in a more favorable location. Give access to it through the battle isles and cartographers would never again have to post on forums to get an exploration group going.

New arenas/modes still don't seem likely though, so I personally might expect something more along the line of skills, additional maps, misc. tweaks, or even options out the ear added to existing gametypes. Perhaps finding someway to making PvP more accessible to casual players. That'd be nice, yep yep, that'd be nice.
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Zahr Dalsk
Grotto Attendant
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taki
That said, I can't remember a time in my life where he has ever been wrong. So...... what do you expect from the PvP expansion?
Our skills getting nerfed because of PvP gimmick-users.
-Loki-
-Loki-
Forge Runner
#15
Balance .
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#16
Pet unlock and change.
Sarevok Thordin
Sarevok Thordin
Desert Nomad
#17
As long as old HA Holding doesn't come back.......

That was just boring.
Servant of Kali
Servant of Kali
Jungle Guide
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taki
"What do you expect from the PvP expansion?"
To die real fast.

Seriously, I don't think any PvPer is expecting much anymore. Roll over and die. That way you won't waste bandwith.
Shyft the Pyro
Shyft the Pyro
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
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Originally Posted by Skuld
PvP isn't profitable, there is no reason for them to release one.
Ah, but see, PvP is the original grind! For little to no reward, players gladly line up and pummel the crap out of each other, creating a nearly infinite supply of new challenges with minimal coding investment. It fits right into ANet's new business model - it's like title farming, but with people!

I would honestly not be surprised if one of the things ANet does to keep people interested until GW2 was some sort of a PvP improvement. That said, I don't believe there will be a full "PvP expansion," though a "PvP update," a-la Sorrow's Furnace or what we got during the Factions preview (PvP moved to Battle Isles, HoH changed, etc.) seems quite possible.
holababe
holababe
Jungle Guide
#20
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Originally Posted by mafia cyborg
1vs1 is coming.
it will be based on ideas from polymock.
The only way to have 1vs1 is to completely change the skills used. (otherwise mesmers would be overpowered) That defeats the point of PvP.