Personally I would rather get a req. 13 gold weapon then diamond, it would at least add one point to Wisdom title track
Cut down diamond drop rate from dungeon chests
Charr
In the last 3 dungeons I did all I got from dungeon chest was diamonds, now I'm not talking about some "weak" dungeons, I and talking about Catacombs of Kathandrax, Rragar's Menagerie, and Raven's Point so I really don't want to spend an hour and a half in them to get a diamond, not to mention that last two runs in Slavers' Exile also gave me a diamond from Duncan's chest.
Personally I would rather get a req. 13 gold weapon then diamond, it would at least add one point to Wisdom title track
Personally I would rather get a req. 13 gold weapon then diamond, it would at least add one point to Wisdom title track
holababe
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Personally I would rather get a req. 13 gold weapon then diamond, it would at least add one point to Wisdom title track
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Archaic
I don't think the droprate needs to be touched. Period. It's good as it stands, and seems to work. However, please don't whine about getting diamonds. They're diamonds, save them, and Onyx and get yourself a pretty destroyer weapon. 
Charr
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Originally Posted by holababe
Umm..sell the diamond to the merchant, buy un'ided golds at 1k each and id them. That makes what, 3-4 points to wisdom?
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Lord Natural
I'd much rather a Diamond than yet another ghetto wand or staff. At least it's worth selling. Don't get me wrong, I still think that a 1.5k diamond being your reward for completing a 1 hour dungeon is crap in itself, but it's just "less crappy" than your typical req 13 fast casting wand.
Gli
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I don't think the droprate needs to be touched. Period. It's good as it stands, and seems to work. However, please don't whine about getting diamonds. They're diamonds, save them, and Onyx and get yourself a pretty destroyer weapon. |
Zeek Aran
Four Frostmaw runs, 7 diamonds and a gold cleaver. I would very much love less of those little crappers. Greens please <3
Ahaha, pretty destroyer weapons. Right.
Ahaha, pretty destroyer weapons. Right.
A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by Archaic
I don't think the droprate needs to be touched. Period. It's good as it stands, and seems to work. However, please don't whine about getting diamonds. They're diamonds, save them, and Onyx and get yourself a pretty destroyer weapon. |
don't think droprate needs to be touched? So the grinders on for 10 hours a day have the only real chance of getting max gold rare skin items that can be sold for 100k+?
Fk that.
Archaic
I'm going to step out of character here. And I'm going to tell you, that you are wrong. Drop rate needs no change, and this deserves no discussion, after all, ecto is just as easy to get. Whine about something else, plz.
A11Eur0
I'm wrong? I'm wrong that I haven't gotten a single rare skin weapon drop at all? I'm wrong that half the hidden treasures give me jack squat? I'm wrong that every end chest besides the one time I beat Murakai, I get 13 req gold wands with energy +5 when hexed? The only rare gemstone I've gotten from anything in EOTN was a diamond...FROM A QUEST. Something that's hard coded in!
No wonder I keep going back to farming and title grinding elsewhere...this "expansion" is just no fun. The gameplay sucks with the AI, I know the story already, and there's no rewards from doing the dungeons that are grossly overpowered unless you have nightfall heroes and can load up on SF eles.
No wonder I keep going back to farming and title grinding elsewhere...this "expansion" is just no fun. The gameplay sucks with the AI, I know the story already, and there's no rewards from doing the dungeons that are grossly overpowered unless you have nightfall heroes and can load up on SF eles.
blue.rellik
It's luck, I've got nothing but golds from diamonds. Not that I care, I appreciate the dungeon itself and finding hidden things with Light of Deldrimor
Archaic
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I'm wrong? I'm wrong that I haven't gotten a single rare skin weapon drop at all? I'm wrong that half the hidden treasures give me jack squat? I'm wrong that every end chest besides the one time I beat Murakai, I get 13 req gold wands with energy +5 when hexed? The only rare gemstone I've gotten from anything in EOTN was a diamond...FROM A QUEST. Something that's hard coded in!
No wonder I keep going back to farming and title grinding elsewhere...this "expansion" is just no fun. The gameplay sucks with the AI, I know the story already, and there's no rewards from doing the dungeons that are grossly overpowered unless you have nightfall heroes and can load up on SF eles. |
Ensign
Diamonds have a rough 10% drop rate from end chests, as do Onyx. How low do you want it to be?
Dr Strangelove
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Diamonds have a rough 10% drop rate from end chests, as do Onyx. How low do you want it to be?
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deathbyone
Ummm guys....did you forget what "Rare" means. In lowering the drop rate of diamonds you increase the drop rate of everything else. The drop rates are fine. If you increase the drop rate of these "Rare" golds, then they are not really rare anymore.
Folken ~oOo~
Diamonds are, yeah forever, but rare too for people who need those.
So if you drop a diamond and dont need it, use it as a trade value.
So if you drop a diamond and dont need it, use it as a trade value.
Endow Gee
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I don't think the droprate needs to be touched. Period. It's good as it stands, and seems to work. However, please don't whine about getting diamonds. They're diamonds, save them, and Onyx and get yourself a pretty destroyer weapon. |
Yea! I love the Shield, Hammer and Sword and Axe. I also love the details on them, the way the lava lights movement and glares.
It is a pretty weapon...
I JUST WISH THEY MADE THE SWORD WITH LONGER BLADE other wise i love the weapon.
Edge Martinez
Saying more greens and less diamonds is all fine and dandy... until you get Bogroot Focus. Then you're like, damn, what a brother gotta do to get some diamonds.
A11Eur0
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Darkobra
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Etta
^ Nah he just think he's cool, with the fancy font and funny align.
Riot Narita
I don't think the drop rate is broken... it seems about right for Normal Mode. What we need is Hard Mode to get a chance at decent drops anywhere in GW:EN...
Woden
I'd rather diamonds than the crummy gold items I usually get.
fireflyry
I too think the drop rates are fine.
Unfortunately, as it goes with most things in life, your going to hear substantially more from those who have had bad luck when compared to those that have had good luck.
I'm baffled so many thought EotN was a sign it would rain gold maxes from the heavens.
Unfortunately, as it goes with most things in life, your going to hear substantially more from those who have had bad luck when compared to those that have had good luck.
I'm baffled so many thought EotN was a sign it would rain gold maxes from the heavens.
darktyco
Diamonds > Req 13 golds with crap mods
Lourens
18 dungeons
5 diamonds
3 greens
4 onyx gemstones
1 gold polymock piece
1 Deldrimor Armor Remant :P
7 gold weapons
dont yawn about getting diamonds :P
5/21= less then 25% (some dungeons give 2 others give 3 items)
5 diamonds
3 greens
4 onyx gemstones
1 gold polymock piece
1 Deldrimor Armor Remant :P
7 gold weapons
dont yawn about getting diamonds :P
5/21= less then 25% (some dungeons give 2 others give 3 items)
Gli
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Originally Posted by darktyco
Diamonds > Req 13 golds with crap mods
Right, but every gold is at least a shot at a good gold. Diamonds are always just diamonds.
More diamonds -> less req 13 crap golds
but also
More diamonds -> less req 9 rare skinned golds
Speaking for myself, I wouldn't mind if I never found a diamond again if I got a gold instead everytime one would've dropped.
More diamonds -> less req 13 crap golds
but also
More diamonds -> less req 9 rare skinned golds
Speaking for myself, I wouldn't mind if I never found a diamond again if I got a gold instead everytime one would've dropped.
william1975
Seeing as how i will want to equip my valor monument with something i really would appreciate diamonds staying as they are, and im quite happy to get anythign out a chest, gold yeah a good ID, rare material good too, havent seen a green yet though
Maybe in HM we will get more drops in these dungeons?
Maybe in HM we will get more drops in these dungeons?
Tarzanboy
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Originally Posted by darktyco
Diamonds > Req 13 golds with crap mods
I'd be happy with a max req 13.
I'm getting tired of non max high req garbage drops such as a req 11 hammer or a req 12 sephis axe.
Cheers,
TB
I'm getting tired of non max high req garbage drops such as a req 11 hammer or a req 12 sephis axe.
Cheers,
TB
Rolgalthor
Diamonds? What Diamonds? You mean Diamonds really drop and don't magically appear at the traders? /sarcasm off.
I have done several dungeons. I have finished Slaver's Exile at least four times in the past two weeks as well. I have yet to see one diamond or green drop and the best gold I have seen was a req 12 gold. The drops really don't make alot of difference for me since I have never received "good" drops in the two years I have played. (Of the countless times I been to UW, I have had two ecto.) I usually just merchant all the junk I get until I can eventually afford to by something decent.
But I definitely don't think they should be reduced. Just keep them as they are. That way I can buy them from all the good folks that have them (after I sell all the useless junk I get of course).
Please don't take this as a "Poor me, I get no drops post." because it isn't meant as such. I am merely stating the genuine trend that I experience. My guildies love it, because its more drops for them. I actually don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. I just makes all the elite sets of armor (5) and weapons that I have bought and title accomplishments for my necro so much sweeter because I know the effort it went in to getting them.
I have done several dungeons. I have finished Slaver's Exile at least four times in the past two weeks as well. I have yet to see one diamond or green drop and the best gold I have seen was a req 12 gold. The drops really don't make alot of difference for me since I have never received "good" drops in the two years I have played. (Of the countless times I been to UW, I have had two ecto.) I usually just merchant all the junk I get until I can eventually afford to by something decent.
But I definitely don't think they should be reduced. Just keep them as they are. That way I can buy them from all the good folks that have them (after I sell all the useless junk I get of course).
Please don't take this as a "Poor me, I get no drops post." because it isn't meant as such. I am merely stating the genuine trend that I experience. My guildies love it, because its more drops for them. I actually don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. I just makes all the elite sets of armor (5) and weapons that I have bought and title accomplishments for my necro so much sweeter because I know the effort it went in to getting them.
=HT=Ingram
wow the hidden chests in frostmaws was very lucrative... By the time our party left the area having vanquished near everything and opening all the hidden chests (around 240 gold each) we all had 5k gold from drops and chests, a few Gemstones and diamonds, and two of us had some nice greens from it all... Plus all the stuff you ID then sell off to the merchant for that extra scratch... so I can't complain on the hidden chests... Remember That loot is not shared... So it adds up fast...
As to the diamond drop rates. I think part of the anti farming issue is good on those chests. basically the 1st person to open the chest gets the gem stuff. In my opinion... By the time the 8th person opens the chest they either get a green or have seen one for someone... This just goes to prove that going with henchmen and heroes sucks for rewards. and that is how it SHOULD be... better rewards for going in large parties. the only downside is the poor sap that opens it first will prob only get a Diamond and a Onyx... OOOHHH what a shame I guess... Opps was that sarcasm? lol
As to the diamond drop rates. I think part of the anti farming issue is good on those chests. basically the 1st person to open the chest gets the gem stuff. In my opinion... By the time the 8th person opens the chest they either get a green or have seen one for someone... This just goes to prove that going with henchmen and heroes sucks for rewards. and that is how it SHOULD be... better rewards for going in large parties. the only downside is the poor sap that opens it first will prob only get a Diamond and a Onyx... OOOHHH what a shame I guess... Opps was that sarcasm? lol
Vanilla Guerilla
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As to the diamond drop rates. I think part of the anti farming issue is good on those chests. basically the 1st person to open the chest gets the gem stuff. In my opinion... By the time the 8th person opens the chest they either get a green or have seen one for someone... This just goes to prove that going with henchmen and heroes sucks for rewards. and that is how it SHOULD be... better rewards for going in large parties. the only downside is the poor sap that opens it first will prob only get a Diamond and a Onyx... OOOHHH what a shame I guess... Opps was that sarcasm? lol So not true from my experience. I've h/h'd all but 4 of the dungeons. I've recieved 3 green items, 1 that was good, 2 other water off-hands. Got 3 Onyx gems, about 6 diamonds, and the rest were all junky gold items.
Yichi
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I'm wrong? I'm wrong that I haven't gotten a single rare skin weapon drop at all? I'm wrong that half the hidden treasures give me jack squat? I'm wrong that every end chest besides the one time I beat Murakai, I get 13 req gold wands with energy +5 when hexed? The only rare gemstone I've gotten from anything in EOTN was a diamond...FROM A QUEST. Something that's hard coded in!
Yes. You're wrong to auto-expect that anything you receive as a reward or drop is going to make you insta-rich.
thor thunder
I agree with Charr (to an exstent)
I think diamonds should NOT drop in dungeons, yes they are worth somthing but sence the release of GW:EN by how much have they droped... 2-4k! and its still going. we got another case of wasited matterial due to over drop rate.. Just look at the value of a gold item these days XO it droped soo much due to NF/Insc that it makes my eyes bleed. Just yesterday I got 2 diamonds in one run.. what if those had been golds XD yeah they go for 1k and diamonds go for 1.4 But you could iden a gold sword and get a +30 or 20/20 or many other mods and its price just shot up =) , cant do that with a diamond..?
I think diamonds should NOT drop in dungeons, yes they are worth somthing but sence the release of GW:EN by how much have they droped... 2-4k! and its still going. we got another case of wasited matterial due to over drop rate.. Just look at the value of a gold item these days XO it droped soo much due to NF/Insc that it makes my eyes bleed. Just yesterday I got 2 diamonds in one run.. what if those had been golds XD yeah they go for 1k and diamonds go for 1.4 But you could iden a gold sword and get a +30 or 20/20 or many other mods and its price just shot up =) , cant do that with a diamond..?
Chthon
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Diamonds have a rough 10% drop rate from end chests, as do Onyx. How low do you want it to be?
Are you sure on that? Excluding the guaranteed onyx from duncan, dungeon chests have netted me over 20 diamonds, but only 2 onyx. I've been assuming my experience is typical. Am I just exceptionally unlucky?
Moloch Vein
^ That has been my experience as well.
Also, if Onyx really had the same drop rate from end chests, the price of those would be falling a lot more, to the point where they are similar to diamonds. Yes, I know, there's a miniscule chance to get a diamond in other places. Since they don't and the price of the Onyx has actually stabilized around 8-9k it would seem reasonable to conclude that Ensign's information is wrong.
Also, if Onyx really had the same drop rate from end chests, the price of those would be falling a lot more, to the point where they are similar to diamonds. Yes, I know, there's a miniscule chance to get a diamond in other places. Since they don't and the price of the Onyx has actually stabilized around 8-9k it would seem reasonable to conclude that Ensign's information is wrong.
willypiggy
Good topic, the drop rate should be decreased a little, I did a dungeon with three humans (Ooze Pit) and we all got golds apart from me who got a Diamond and then we did Rragar's Menagerie with I think a full team of humans. Two greens dropped, 3 diamonds and the rest were golds. The onyx should be increased (only a little bit) and the Diamond decreased about 15% IMO.
Charr
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Diamonds > Req 13 golds with crap mods
But not every req. 13 has crapy mods, I will take my chances with req. 13 gold any day.
Kushiels_Scion
I'll tell you something i haven't gotten a single diamond or onyx doing these dungeons. And you know what? No rare skins either. So drop rate needs absolutely no changing. All it's going to do is piss off more people.
Equaliser
Well good for you but not everyone has be farming Dungeon chests. 
Why should the drop rate go down just to make your collection of diamond goes up?
I say many people particularly casual gamers have yet to collect enough diamond and stone for their destroyer weapons so they can display it their HOM.
Why should the drop rate go down just to make your collection of diamond goes up?
I say many people particularly casual gamers have yet to collect enough diamond and stone for their destroyer weapons so they can display it their HOM.