When there's a leaver in your RA team, do you leave as well?

Alex Morningstar

Alex Morningstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance

Mo/

RA matches aren't so long that I feel the need to ragequit just because some impatient RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO did.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

When your 1337 you dont need other players

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Do you leave RA as soon as your monk casts mending?

Ive been playing mending monk with 85hp and illusion of weakness for the fun of it. I love teaching people to rage quit ^^.

BohemianKeith

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Honestly sometimes i'm just not in the mood and i'll quit, other times i'll stick around just to mess with them.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bungusmaximus
Wow how can you put up with PvP, elitism, bad players and trash talk while you dont even like PvP? I would suck at something if I would do it without enjoying it tbh.
Because there's no jerks/trash talking in PvE right?

Turn off allchat, make your status offline (or ignore people who pm you), done.

rong626

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

hell

Woot

P/W

smart people,when you know your losing,LEAVE

dont waste your time

lai

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Fighting a team with hexes and a healer when you're 1 down is a waste of time. If you choose to fight (i.e. waste your time) you probably don't care too much about glad points and that's cool, but you don't have to go make a thread about it.

If you RA for points you leave whenever you're in a team that you know won't be able to win 10 points. If you RA for fun/to manage without support then you won't leave. Simple as that.

OT: Staying 1/4 is just stupid; all you're really doing is griefing.

/close

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
If you RA for points
For glad points in RA?


Quote:
/close
I don't think it's up to you buddy.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

lol. Thought everyone knew TA was faster? RA's just a place to have fun killing scrubs with bad builds. <3

African War Lord

African War Lord

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The other day, I enter battle and right away someone on our team leaves. It started the biggest chain reaction I ever saw lol.. Everyone on my team left except for me and everyone but the one guy on the other side left so it ends up in this 1 vs 1 scrimmage.

Me the blinder vs. SP sin lol.. poor fella. It was pretty funny.

back on topic, I usually stay for the challenge unless I'm up against 2 healers. If I'm a monk I sometimes find it easier to heal with just the 3 of us and we often win unless my team can't kill at all.

Master Ketsu

Master Ketsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

R/

Answer to OP: No, because if your team can win a 3v4, you know you have a somewhat competant team at least.

I consider myself a "Semi RA leaver". I dont leave at the beggining of a match because Its an assinine/rude thing to do, plus you dont really know what your other teamates have or how good they are at playing it. But if my team fails and has no monk. ( note how I say AND instead of OR... anyone who thinks you need a monk to win 10 in a row probably sucks ) I leave at the end of the match, before the timer starts.

About half my glad points are earned in RA nowadays ( Used to be more in TA, but lately its been harder to get my guild to TA with me .... ) , and about 1/4th of the RA gladpoints Ive gotten were from teams that started out as 3v4.

Winstar

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

I'm generally don't leave if there is no percieved healed as I've had enough monkless teams get glad points to know its not necessary. But you have to be able sort of get a sense of your teams potential after a match and see. If you have some anti melee stuff, some anti caster stuff and some decent damage you can easily do quite well if the players are semi-competant. Even teams with just boatloads of damage can storm to 10.

The same thing with a team of 3, you sort of size up quickly the other 2 and estimate if you can maybe steal one and pick up another. If there are 2 drops, forget it.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

I never leave. Its just principle, but I always stick things out. Goes for most anything that suffers from leavers and leechers - be it RA, AB, a mission etc - I just play on through what events befall as best I can with who stays.

And yes, as Master Ketsu said, you can win short-handed. I'm always a monk, so there is always a chance. Add to that, of course, in RA you dont even need a monk to win anyway.

Master Ketsu

Master Ketsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

R/

Quote:
you can win short-handed.
Quoted for emphasis.

One of the things Ive learned from Monking in RA is that 1 good damage dealer/offensive character is superior to 3 poor offensive characters.

I once went up against a team with 2 monks, 1 rit ( restoration / channeling ) and 1 ranger. The previous team ( which we owned ) was 2 warriors, 1 ele, and 1 necro. The ranger on that team gave me more trouble then the last teams offense combined. Why ?

Because warrior#1 was a was a typical healing hands/riposte w/mo scrub.
warrior#2 was a default skill scrub ( W/nothing charge as elite , sever, ect. no runes. )
ele was an earthtank ( and a bad one too. Bad build + bad player = F T L )
necro was N/E firestorm/lightning strike/ETHER PRODIGY ( WTF ?!?! )... need i say more ?

The Ranger was an R/Me running burning arrow/interrupt and had a mesmer enchantment removal instead of mending touch. while we still managed to win the 10 degen + enchant removal + interrupts was far more then everything the last PURE OFFENSE team had combined.

Morale of the story: Dont leave RA teams just because you dont have a monk, a balanced team , or are shorthanded...because you never know what the hell is going on in the demented minds of your teammates and you probably dont want to know.

( and as much as i hate to admit it, part of this is true for TA and HA as well...:P )

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

I would never leave a match intentionally. Its really lame and I would feel like an ass or a coward for doing it. I've fought with odds worse than 1:4 before... i.e. 1:12 in an AB.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

well I'm usually already in the process of leaving my team when I get a leaver so I don't mind as I wasn't planning on staying anyhow.

Lord Natural

Lord Natural

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

W/

Used to stay, now I usually bail. One of the reasons I tend not to stay now, is that I don't like mixing the number of wins on my team. Let's say you win the 3v4, get a replacement, and go 10. There's a good chance you'll have an asshat who'll just bail right away, not caring about the late joiner. So you're left with this poor guy who has 9 wins and is left twiddling his thumbs. I've seen this happen a few times, and I feel far worse about it than I do about leaving half a team on 0 wins.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

i stay in an RA team only if there is a healing rit or monk. and only if they have a decent build (which i check by clicking on them periodically). otherwise, im out.

i dont like wasting time, and i think everyone should thank me cuz i save them time, too (both the team i left and the opposing team).

sure there are people who play "just for fun", but who gives a $41+, leave yourself, and join again. takes a couple seconds.

yeah i have no guild and few friends. i taunt enemies i defeat and diss teammates with bad builds.

btw i play a sin with high damage, enchantment removal, self-cleanup (sometimes use on allies too), and a res. all i need is healing that doesnt suck. im usually a pivotal force in our victories. im 2/3 through glad6. all about efficiency.

agrios

agrios

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

South America

Naked Stalkers of America[Nude]

W/

No..I usually stay just to see how things go.

I won more than a match in RA in 3v4 matches. But never in 2v4. As long as no one else quits im fine with 3v4 RA.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

No, I don't leave. I stay, watch how all my team members leave, type /dance and go playing PvE after the enemy team clubbed me down.

enxa

enxa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

Rt/

I face my destiny and die with honor.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I deserve better than to be at an instant disadvantage so I quit if I know I have fewer players on my team.

The Omniscient

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Mo/

Um, just a mere suggestion, but why don't people just play in American districts. There's hardly any leaving going on there when I play. Don't play in international districts if you hate leavers.

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Natural
Used to stay, now I usually bail. One of the reasons I tend not to stay now, is that I don't like mixing the number of wins on my team. Let's say you win the 3v4, get a replacement, and go 10. There's a good chance you'll have an asshat who'll just bail right away, not caring about the late joiner. So you're left with this poor guy who has 9 wins and is left twiddling his thumbs. I've seen this happen a few times, and I feel far worse about it than I do about leaving half a team on 0 wins.
Some douche did this to a whole team yesterday. I was on 6, 2 people were on 9 and this guy reached 10. He promised to stay for everyone and then he didn't even move until we were all dead :/ I hate trolls.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Never!

I was even able to win some times after 3 leaves, just by running around until they got tired and left too.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

lol at all you "honorable" people. lack of time management is your downfall.

of course you can win with no healer. but make 10? unlikely. eventually you will run into a team with both a monk AND players that counter your build. and your work for the past half hour or so will go down the drain.

...

there IS an exception that makes me decide to stay, though. if i see an exact enemy team that defeated me in a past battle enter the map (by reading their names) that i know is on a streak... even if i dont have a monk, i will try to kill them, just to ruin their day. (and i succeed sometimes, lol)

and then leave at the end

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerials
They probably saw you using mending
How about backbreaker and m-touch, wise-ass :P

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
lol at all you "honorable" people. lack of time management is your downfall.

of course you can win with no healer. but make 10? unlikely. eventually you will run into a team with both a monk AND players that counter your build. and your work for the past half hour or so will go down the drain.
I don't need time management when I'm at leisure and I don't need gladiator titles too. It comes in the process anyway as I recently hit r1. Biggest gripe anyways, people only take front loaded damage templates to RA, no defense or heals whatsoever. And then they're surprised that they get killed w/o a monk DOH!!


Hrmpf, just did some RA yesterday, and it was really hard to stick to my principles of sportsmanship when I faced 3 spirit camper teams in a row. It's perfectly possible to win but you know you're in for a tedious match.

Ritualists must die MRAWR!

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

I just make a build made to fight 4v1 its funny to win that way =D.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

My team won 3v4 the other day.. then again, the other team did contain a warrior with mending and an ele spamming firestorm, they were totally 1337ville.

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by distilledwill
My team won 3v4 the other day.. then again, the other team did contain a warrior with mending and an ele spamming firestorm, they were totally 1337ville.
fire eles are HAXX, usually when I see a meteor shower I hit >insert random run skill< and run rounds around them.




OMFG stop running u nap!!!!! :P RA is just delicious....

Master Ketsu

Master Ketsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

R/

ussually when I see a fire ele, I dont interrupt ms until the last second, so all that casting time is wasted. gg.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

I tend to stay if there are 3 people, but if another leaves then I'm gone.

Actually, I always whisper the person that left, and make sure I'm set on Do Not Disturb, because then I don't have to put up and read their excuses or stupid remarks. My comment is actually very standard, something like

"Don't play in RA if you're gonna leave"

Yes. I send it to every leaver, and I feel good about making them feel bad.

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

Honor is so overrated, only the cold and calculating come first.

Whether I leave or not depends on my mood and time I have, if someone leaves, I judge whether we still stand a chance by what is on the opposing team, and what is left on ours. If I think we stand a chance, sure I'll give it a shot, but if not, then I prefer not to waste the time.

If two people leave, then I'll leave, no question.

@Master Ketsu: It's even funnier if they have Migraine, you even have time to type "Stop casting Meteor Shower or I will interrupt you"

@Terra Xin: I fail to see how your comment would make anyone feel bad, most smarter leavers themselves will be on DnD anyway.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
lol at all you "honorable" people. lack of time management is your downfall.

of course you can win with no healer. but make 10? unlikely. eventually you will run into a team with both a monk AND players that counter your build. and your work for the past half hour or so will go down the drain.
More like lol at you, for trying to get 10 straight in RA. TA's where the people with a clue go to farm glad points. Being able to choose your team and going for 40 straight >>>> not being able to and ragequitting six times before finally getting a monk ...who leaves at 9 just for the lulz. Why do people think having a monk is all that in RA anyway? Most monks in RA suck, and even if you do get a good one, if your other two allies can't deal shit for damage, you might as well quit anyway.

Said it before and I'll say it again, RA's a place to play against scrubs for fun, not a place to farm glad points seriously.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
I tend to stay if there are 3 people, but if another leaves then I'm gone.

Actually, I always whisper the person that left, and make sure I'm set on Do Not Disturb, because then I don't have to put up and read their excuses or stupid remarks. My comment is actually very standard, something like

"Don't play in RA if you're gonna leave"

Yes. I send it to every leaver, and I feel good about making them feel bad.
most of us dont give a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO (or are probably on DND ourselves), and you are a pussy if you're too scared to suffer a heart attack at our blistering response.

Quote:
More like lol at you, for trying to get 10 straight in RA. TA's where the people with a clue go to farm glad points. Being able to choose your team and going for 40 straight >>>> not being able to and ragequitting six times before finally getting a monk ...who leaves at 9 just for the lulz. Why do people think having a monk is all that in RA anyway? Most monks in RA suck, and even if you do get a good one, if your other two allies can't deal shit for damage, you might as well quit anyway.
like i said in an earlier post, i have no guild and few friends. and ta sucks cuz there is very often, dedicated antimelee. a good monk and myself in RA is usually enough; the other two can run around doing random shit as long as they have the dimmest concept of killing.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
most of us dont give a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO (or are probably on DND ourselves), and you are a pussy if you're too scared to suffer a heart attack at our blistering response.

like i said in an earlier post, i have no guild and few friends. and ta sucks cuz there is very often, dedicated antimelee. a good monk and myself in RA is usually enough; the other two can run around doing random shit as long as they have the dimmest concept of killing.
Let me be as sincere as I can towards you...

What is up with you? Do you have reading impairments?

1: You're a hypocrite and you contradicted yourself... in the same sentence. If I have DnD on myself, is there any different reason why you do exactly the same? *GASP!*

2: I never said I would have a heart attack, I said I don't care what they have to say. DnD just makes it easier for me not to bother with them.

Hang on, I better repeat this. (I think you need to see a doctor after this as well, it's serious stuff. Ask for some medication for your rudeness as well, doctors will prescribe anything these days.)

I never said I would have a heart attack, I said I don't care what they have to say. DnD just makes it easier for me not to bother with them.

I would like you to respect another person's will to do something against leavers, but you're one of those people so I have this to say to you, especially:

Don't play in RA if you're gonna leave.

You have no idea how good that felt. There, I said it on the forums so you can tantrum all you like and everyone will look at you for what you are.

I can also repeat that if you want, I don't have the time but it looks like you need it, just PM me and I'll send you a copy.

Oh, and don't assume that you represent 'most' people, because you don't.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuuda
@Terra Xin: I fail to see how your comment would make anyone feel bad, most smarter leavers themselves will be on DnD anyway.
Community Relations, make sure that you reply in a positive or neutral way, and if they respond in a negative way, then they've already lost. It's normally not worth responding to these people, but if you need to make an example of them, then counter their response by targeting the flaws in what they say, ensuring that your response does not sink into their level of negativity, or do the better thing and positively respond to their comments. There are more perceptions towards making someone feel bad. That's just my opinion.

But I don't see how a leaver is smart in the first place. So there goes your point. :S

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

I don't see the point in leaving if you have a leaver in your team. Stay in the game, and there's a small chance you might get a little Balth faction. At the very least, the other guys will get a little. And you might have fun. OMFG, you might have FUN in a competitive setting! What an alien concept!

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

lol Terra you sound like you're gonna cry, want a tissue?

Cab Tastic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
i have no guild and few friends.
Ever wondered why?

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

cuz im an antisocial s.o.b. as you can see