When there's a leaver in your RA team, do you leave as well?

I won't leave if it's 3 ppl, you can still be competitive. RA is for people to chill out and have a few good matches, I think we can agree on that.

I'm trying to help you here, but lets just take a step back and recognize that firstly, this is a 'written' forum, not spoken. Unless you have voices in your head telling you otherwise (there's medication for that, too.) I don't think you read my post, which is sad for you, but confirms my assumptions.

well when i read others' posts i imagine their voice in my head and yours was that of an effeminate pansy-ass

EDIT: saw your edit, and let me give you a simple analogy. you're like an 8 year old who cries and moans while plugging your ears cuz you're afraid to get owned by the retort. i simply lock the door from the beginning and mind my own business. i hope your feeble mind can comprehend that.

EDIT2: well, im off to farm glad points in RA, hope to get flames that are less weak when i return.

Profession? Warrior. Enough said.

You're quite adamant on your inability not to read, so I'll repeat for a third time what I said in my original post:

I hope that you improve yourself with your lack of reading capability, its quite shocking.

Hopefully this RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bullshit will soon be changed and glad points will only be available in TA like they were supposed to.

./signed

/agreeeeeeed

keep telling yourself that, fruitcake (Terra)

and ta-only glad points aint gonna happen; anet needs ra grinders playing their game.

the most that can happen is a shorter streak requirement for ra and maybe bonus points for ta

penalizing leavers aint gonna happen either, cuz it would spawn a whole new wave of leeroys (to get to the next game faster) and griefers (to force you to quit and get penalized)

Everything you shouldn't bring into RA.

Don't get mad when people rage.

Honestly, the reason why better players like cytherea rage is because the majority of people are PVE who are too lazy to learn a new style of play. Even if it's only a semi-decent resource for higher level pvp, if you plan on RAing please look up some builds on pvxwiki. If people can learn to do what they're supposed to, stuff explodes and monks are happy and nobody leaves.

I do stay yes, I mostly play monk in ra.

Most ppl leave after one person does, thats when i get the most excited
I give the opposing team exactly 3 minutes to try to kill me, waiting to see what they do. Do they leave because they cant kill me? or do they stay and try their best? If after 3 mins they are still fighting, i leave aswell

btw cytherea sync with me sometime

I am gud frenzy monk

Ya know Terrra Xin, I don't like being really think I should be called a chicken for having a more complex view on the subject that 90% of peoples "all leaverz r teh nubz" bullshit. Gladiator point farmers who leave then they don't see a monk, sure they suck and should be scorn, but you can't say people are bad for not want to play with a disadvantage.

All these topics about whether leaving is right are all total crud, leaving is acceptable under certain conditions, end of story really.

/request lock before the flamefest goes too far.

I stay but I shouldn't have to deal with this problem anyway. And RA people are DEFFINITLY not getting dumber, I've seen some royally stupid things done in RA indicating that the stupidity has always scaled to the lowest denominator.

Agreed with you in a way, but I think there's still something wrong if you got a spare half hour and you want to jump in for some quick play and you don't get to play because over half of the matches is unplayable to begin with. It's lame for people that don't farm and want to have quick fun.

Hard core PvP farmers CAN go to TA or HA or w/e, but casual players can't go there because they get stomped. When I started out PvP-ing I usually played AB, that's a nice casual format without leavers and the leeching problem is pretty exaggerated imo. I always thought of RA as pointless and frustrating.

cammy, if by frenzy you mean frenzied defense.. maybe i will, lol (quite a dodgy skill, but helps sometimes)

Quote me on where you think I said that and I might be able to respond, thanks.

I don't think you are thinking your posts through accurately enough, you say that leavers should be scorned, but then you say they shouldn't be?

You need to think this through, a person will leave their group based on a 5 second assumption that the team that they are pitted with is going to suck, and will leave which puts their own team at a disadvantage - contradicting what you just said, saying that leaving should be allowed in 'some' cases - it's just not true. Anyone who spends that amount of time using no experience and ALL assumptions is exactly the type of people that deserve every punishment that they have been grieving onto other players.

And that's the whole problem in RA. People who treat their parties with grief in order to farm for a title, it's a wonder how these people live their day... It's not a life's achievement, but if you're gonna walk over others to get it, I feel sorry for them.

...Sucks to be you.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Ryan_Scott

And it's spelled - 'grievers.' You're getting there, I can see it!

Your not looking deep enough into the subject, what I am saying is that there are certain times when leaving is acceptable.

Leaving because:

-No monk
-No Heal Rit
-Two monks
-Other proffession you may think suck.

Is clearly wrong, and are the usual reasons of a gladiator point farmer.

However, if you leave because of:

-Real life issue.
-disadvantages.
-Immature teammates.
-A mistake in your build (Wrong skills or attriubes)

Can be justified. And I see little wrong with leaving at the end of a match, since you team will get a replacement.

I hope that has cleared up my opinion for you people.

Oh, and when you quoted me the title was "Posted by Chicken FTW" Which I assumed you were refering to me as a small, tasty bird.

:S, crap. There's a user named "Chicken FTW" on that page of the thread, I must've misquoted you and added his name instead of yours. I'm really sorry for the mistake. I was going to reply to his then decided against it. (Chainging now)

Anyway, yeah I see what you mean, thanks for clearing that up. My gripe and major focus is with leavers who desert their groups before the match starts, btw.

blah blah blah a bunch of proposals and speculation. ive seen that page; it's been around for months and still nothing's happened. looks like this "Ryan Scott" aint such a big man at Anet. and it's a frickin wiki, anyone can post shit.. not much different from this here forum, full of crying babies

p.s. i hate quibbling about spelling but ctrl-f "griefer" in that same page you linked; it appears many times.

I left an RA match earlier after a warrior on my team used healing breeze.

It was followed up by insults and death threats against my family by the wammo.

I quit RA now.

btw I'm currently playing this:

[skill]fragility[/skill][skill]shrinking armor[/skill][skill]accumulated pain[/skill][skill]shatter delusions[/skill][skill]virulence[/skill][skill]spiritual pain[/skill][skill]unnatural signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

no dude, stay. your build is alright, though lacking utility. screw the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin wammo

Its called an armor ignoring spike that /kills things. It provides plenty of utility vs rits XD.

lol tru dat...

nonono I use frenzy. Frenzied defense is my cancel stance. Then I use heal sig. That way my teammates never die.


lol =P

....

dont even come near me! if u end up in my team, i'll leave before you can even blink!

lol

hehe funny story. One guy left in RA so another guy left and I was playing monk, the other kid was playing Star Burst Ele. I was bonder/SB and it was 2v4. I knew we were going to lose but the Ele was staying and I like to see how long I can surivive, and I my build was eh cause i had no one to bond so I gained no energy =/. So the Ele takes out the interupting ranger and i'm like...hmmm maybe we have a chance. So then I die, I get rezzed, after i guess 7 minutes the Ele kills them all!!! I was proud. Told I was amazing.

How the hell does a interrupt ranger lose to starburst.

lololol fail @ rangerway.

I never leave, plenty of times I've had guys leave and I've taken on the other team myself. Once I nearly even killed one guy but the monk on his team arrives and heals him before I could finish him off

oh you can't leave. playing that 3v4 brings out all the fun, cuz you can mess around as much as you like and as long as it looks like you're doing something, no one really complains. so when it's 3v4 and you're on the diminished team, run straight thru the lava river or try to lure the other team into the 3 traps you put in the poison pool. the odds are against you anyway, so why not play around with it?

now thats funny and sad, but yeah descrimination ftl! (bad spelling ftl)

I usually stay..though there were a couple of teams when like EVERYONE left, my team and the opposing team. So I won without doing a thing That was the most awesomest xD

i stay if it's 3v4 even it's hopeless, I may or may not leave if it's 2v4, depends on who i'm with and the mood I'm in. I might leave "early," and that's only when everyone else is dead (including me) and the person left doesn't have a res and the other team has more people on their side.

I have won a couple of glad points with no monk and I've gotten far with no healers...went to 7 wins with a shroud assassin, a toucher, and a fire ele (me as sin) before we got creamed. But it was fun. And the last match was a doozy, we all made kills it was just a matter of who died first on which side and who was able to res. It was close.

What I DON'T like is when the OTHER team who obviously have the advantage become jerks about it.

And then there's the issue of people who DON'T leave o_O And i think everyone knows what I mean: last person runner.

The rest of their team had left and the player just runs around while the rest of my team (either all or even just one person who can easily take him) gives chase. Sure, maybe one of us should have had a snare, but usually it's not going to happen. At most you'll have 4 different classes o.O the split up and pincer move will work..for like few seconds before the person runs past again. So instead of either letting us kill him or fighting back while we kill him or even just leaving, they just run around for maybe 10 minutes, causing MY team to leave.

There was a shadow form sin who all he did was survive. He just used echo shadow form and unfortunately none of us had touch skills or signets. So we couldn't touch him. In the end it was just me and him as everyone from both sides had left. And then he left. So i'm like "wtf o.O"

I have a tendency to stick it out against a "tanker" as I gamble on the hope that the other person will leave and i get the ultimate win. Especially if they can't do damage.

It's just rather annoying.

And I think there have been more leavers lately o.O Or I think it's a time phase thing. The other day I was playing in the wee hours of the morning and I noticed more instant leavers than when I play in the afternoon. it's weird.

Yesterday I entered and immediately had a leaver, luckily the other team did too, but we must have both been in the same mindset cus nobody else left after that. It was a hard slog, but eventually me, an incredible E/A spike ele and a Warrior pulled through.

In the next round we got a Necro.. who turned out to have flesh golem.. (?!?!)
The funny thing is, we trounced everyone in our way, even 2 monk teams and teams with pretty hefty rit spirit support. We got a glad point and won a couple of battles in TA before getting stomped by a melandru spike. BOOOO!

and that's ALWAYS the greatest feeling evah

oh I forgot another story.

So we had a team that got to 7 wins, but then one of our teammates had to leave (not the monk whoo.) We get a mesmer and she learns that we had had several wins before she joined. The match starts, she says "good luck" and leaves. We were just "..WTF."

And the one who left dealt at least half of the damage. Me and my other teammate tried but the other team was pretty high on the damage and disabled our monk completely. We couldn't give enough damage output to take down their monk and protect our own at the same time.

So yeah, people who leave after learning the team has had wins already is just rude. They could at least wait until AFTER the match (win or lose) before leaving. It won't kill their time. I've had teams that actually stayed after they got the glad point to win a couple of games so the one who came in late also got a glad. It's more possible if they're only a game or two late, but it's also fun beating TA and other RA teams that made it to TA.

I just want to say Thanks to Anet!! Two years of bitter annoyance and hopefully it will all be over!!

well, looks like my leaving days are over. all things must come to an end, unfortunately. the new system is a mixed bag, but generally in favor of the greater good.



EDIT: yea i stay w/o a healer now, unless team obviously sucks, then i leave when match is finished...no dishonor there

i agree with the second part
but if you dotn enjoy pvp, why bother?
i luv it. so i play
but if its a waste of time, then i leave

i stay and pick off anyone overextending, then i say they "HA!", and i run into the mob and die. if there aren't overextenders... i just say, "hey! you guys must be haxing!!!" and i fight till i die, and once dead, say, "nooooo my computer glitched!"