Energy problems

Coan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/Mo

I seems to be always running out of energy really fast with only 20 energy it goes fast any idea how to fix this?.

Where do i find +energy stuff need to boost my heroes energy as well.

I have all expansions and im lvl 20.

T N Player

T N Player

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Bay Area

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just add Radiant Insignias to ur armor. they add energy depending on where you place it like the chest gives 3 energy, 2 energy on legs and 1 energy on everything else

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Warrior with energy issues?! Dare I ask what your skill bar looks like?

We have adrenaline skills for a reason

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coan
I seems to be always running out of energy really fast with only 20 energy it goes fast any idea how to fix this?. You fix it by stop running a terrible bar.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Just like I constantly whine about in the elementalist threads, higher max energy does not equal energy management. if you're running out of energy on a warrior, you are probably running way too many energy skills *coughcoughhealingbreeze*

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Yeah, I have issues with energy too when I maintain mending on myself and try to cast healing breeze. It bugs me.

thor hammerbane

thor hammerbane

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dark Side of the Moon

Fat Kids Are Hard To Kid[nap]

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Yeah, I have issues with energy too when I maintain mending on myself and try to cast healing breeze. It bugs me. I pray to God that you are joking.

Anywho, if you find energy is a problem, Change your build. Whenever I run a warrior build, I use at the most 2 skills that require energy; focus on adren skills.

Wild Karrde

Wild Karrde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

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If your constantly running out of energy I would, as everyone has said, drop some of the energy skills and use radiant insignias on your armor(with radiant runes on all your armor you end up with 28 energy). Or you could get a zealous weapon. or a +5 energy inscription instead of a 15^whatever

I ususally run a 15 or 16 weapons mastery with high points in Strength, which enables me to take Power Attack, since its 5 energy and recharges in 3 secons you can spam it without hurting your adrenaline pool. Spamming it alot can run down your energy so I keep a zealous weapon with me to switch too if my energy happens to get low.

Some people will call me a noob cause I use power attack, but I think +36 dmg for only 5 e and a 3 sec recharge is pretty cool, but the enemies laying at my feet think it sucks.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Do not use Radiant insignias, consider using more adrenaline skills, remember not to use Radiant insignias, invest in a zealous weapon to swap to, stay clear of Radiant insignias.

Also it's best to not use Radiant insignias, warriors have adrenaline skills for a reason.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Yeah, I have issues with energy too when I maintain mending on myself and try to cast healing breeze. It bugs me. You need to stop [skill]Echo[/skill]ing them, works well for me

Kern Wolf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

NJ

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To the OP:

I mainly use armor with all Radiant Insignias, along with the normal warrior runes (vigor, absorption, and whatever weapon rune you choose to use).

Advice; as a warrior, you don't want to run an energy intensive bar. I try to saty away from having a bar that would have energy skills of more than 10-15 (and if you bring a skill that needs 15 energy, that better be the only energy hog in your bar.) Make sure you have at least a few adrenaline skills in there, or a skill that helps you gain adrenaline quickly.

What's your secondary profession?

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by blue.rellik
You need to stop [skill]Echo[/skill]ing them, works well for me how 2 frenzy spam then??

African War Lord

African War Lord

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coan
I seems to be always running out of energy really fast with only 20 energy it goes fast any idea how to fix this?.

I used to wonder the same thing lol

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Do not use Radiant insignias, consider using more adrenaline skills, remember not to use Radiant insignias, invest in a zealous weapon to swap to, stay clear of Radiant insignias.

Also it's best to not use Radiant insignias, warriors have adrenaline skills for a reason. I think you may have forgotten to tell him to not use radiant insignias.

As eveyone else seid, Use adren skills. They are there for a reason

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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My warrior uses the following build, and has 480 HP (Which is the same as the base hP for level 20), and 38/40 energy (can't remember the right amount, lol)
I have all radiant insignias, and 3 attunment runes on my armour, though I couldn't find a fellblade with energy +5 within my price range. Ahh well maybe someday.




It's a good build so long as you have a monk, due to lack of decent self healing. This works well in protecting casters by crippling melee fighters that run to the back to attack monks and other casters with weak armour.
Also serves well for interupting those annoying skills you'll come across now and then if timed right, and then the 2 damaging only skills that can't be blocked (I'm aware those are the same skill, but I was limited on low cost energy sword attacks, lol.)

So after you've spammed those 4 attacks, you press what I like to call "Do it all over again" button, which recharges the skills and fills my energy bar to the top again. The 3 last skills are optional to a certain point. endure pain is good for making up HP due to the low normal amount my warrior has, boosting it to 780 instead of 480. Lions comfort can be quite good if the healers are having trouble keeping up with everyone, and spirnt to get around faster, or move to targets faster if you want.

with the rank 3 in tactics I get 95HP from Lions comfort, which isn't too bad, but wont support me. self healing could be better with "For great justice"

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

Its really impressive that some people can play the game and have absolutely no grasp on how it works.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter
Its really impressive that some people can play the game and have absolutely no grasp on how it works. PvE is too easy
c-space + AI = win

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

OP I would not read Malchior's post.

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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Quote:
Originally Posted by YunSooJin
OP I would not read Malchior's post. And why not?

It's a build like any other. If it didn't work I wouldn't use it.

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malchior
And why not?

It's a build like any other. If it didn't work I wouldn't use it. cause its not that great of a build
how do you rez when YOU fail to protect your casters?
youre teaching someone to use a fail build

milkflopance

milkflopance

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

England

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malchior
And why not?

It's a build like any other. If it didn't work I wouldn't use it. mending + HH "worked", that doesn't mean it's any good.

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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No, I said the last 3 are optional. If they want a rez then by all means bring one. The base of the build is floursh with energy skills, you can change whatever else.

And from tips in another thread I'm going to to mix the skills up a bit to see which works best and ect. Like IAS and such. My monks have Renew life, so even if they both stop healing/protecting to rez mid battle, any team members in range are healed for over 100 anyway. So in alot of ways it's best I don't carry a rez.

Quote:
Originally Posted by milkflopance
mending + HH "worked", that doesn't mean it's any good. Never done it. What's wrong with my build in your opinion?

LightningHell

LightningHell

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malchior
No, I said the last 3 are optional. If they want a rez then by all means bring one. The base of the build is floursh with energy skills, you can change whatever else.

And from tips in another thread I'm going to to mix the skills up a bit to see which works best and ect. Like IAS and such. My monks have Renew life, so even if they both stop healing/protecting to rez mid battle, any team members in range are healed for over 100 anyway. So in alot of ways it's best I don't carry a rez.

Never done it. What's wrong with my build in your opinion? The problem with your build is that it doesn't compare to the usual standard optimized builds. Sure, it might work, but pretty much everything works.

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LightningHell
The problem with your build is that it doesn't compare to the usual standard optimized builds. Sure, it might work, but pretty much everything works. So in other words, because I don't use adrenaline skills and such like all the other good warriors can I should change the build because it's classed as bad?

milkflopance

milkflopance

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

England

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malchior
No, I said the last 3 are optional. If they want a rez then by all means bring one. The base of the build is floursh with energy skills, you can change whatever else.

And from tips in another thread I'm going to to mix the skills up a bit to see which works best and ect. Like IAS and such. My monks have Renew life, so even if they both stop healing/protecting to rez mid battle, any team members in range are healed for over 100 anyway. So in alot of ways it's best I don't carry a rez.

Never done it. What's wrong with my build in your opinion? No IAS
Cripple is hardly ever worth it in PvE
Endure pain just horrible, heal sig is much better
Flourish
You have more in strength than swordsmanship
where is the deep wound?

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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Quote:
Originally Posted by milkflopance
No IAS
Cripple is hardly ever worth it in PvE
Endure pain just horrible, heal sig is much better
Flourish
You have more in strength than swordsmanship
where is the deep wound? As I said, IAS i'm looking into with skills such as flail.

Cripple does have it's uses. I don't claim by build perfect, I know it's not the best out there but I don't want some copied build off wiki, I enjoyed making my own. I'm not the main damage dealer in my party. I normally have a nuker or two, and my job is to protect them from melee warriors and such while they set everything around us on fire, lol.

Healing sig does heal very well but that would require I use more tactics, which I don't like as much. So endure pain it is until I work up the adrenaline to help heal myself a hundred or two.

Flourish is a good skill. I know this because It works with the build very well and gives me the ability to spam all my attacks on another enemy with no downtime. It's a skill that rechanges all skills and gives me energy to use them again, you tell me the downside to that.

Deep wound I realise I don't have, however like I said, I'm still messing about with the 3 last skills and I'm not the main damage dealer as it is.


I run a different role in my team. If I was trying to be a major damage dealer and be able to solo well then this would be a slap-in-the-face fail. It's just a good job I'm not doing that at all, lol.

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

Flail + zealous weapons works well lol.

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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Might try that one

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malchior
So in other words, because I don't use adrenaline skills and such like all the other good warriors can I should change the build because it's classed as bad? The problem people are having with it is not that its radically different and therefore scares them, the problem is that there's better options for everything it tries to do. Its DPS is easily outclassed by Dragon Slash spam, and its not particularly good to tank with either. All of the energy-based attack skills (save for Savage Slash, possibly) hit for less damage and have less utility than comparable adrenaline skills, and that makes Flourish a dodgy elite skill. The fact that its linked to an equally dodgy attribute doesn't help it much.

But if you like using it, by all means do so. I wouldn't want to take it into PvP, personally.. but in PvE, who cares?

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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Yeah, My warrior woudln't stand a chance in PvP. But anyway, the build works and I do enjoy it, yupyup. lol


The thread was made looking for tips on energy and I gave what I know =P

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

Even battle rage can put out more damage than a flourish build..

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
Even battle rage can put out more damage than a flourish build.. i'm very happy to hear that. However if you had made an attempt at reading what I said you would know that damage output isn't my goal, I have nukers for that.

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Warriors are "meant" to be DPS machines, so damage out put should be your goal, that is why ANet nerfed the warrior stances.

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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You're right. What was I thinking? lol

clearly anyone who doesn't use a warrior to do as much damage as possible is in the wrong. Also runners to, since they were meant to fight not run! woe is me.

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

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Warriors used to have the highest DPS in the game before prophecies and nightfall. Now they have assassins and dervishes to contend with, but the fact remains that warrior DPS is second to none.
Now if you chose to utilize that I guess is your decision.
If you come on here and post your build though, don't expect everyone to wow over it if you can't put out some big numbers.
Flourish doesn't do that.
Battle Rage doesn't either.

There are plenty of warrior builds that can deal damage and have utility on the same bar. You don't need to run a crap elite like Flourish to accomplish said goal.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

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The OP may have wanted info on his heros as well if they are castors use the hero forum.
Like most said use adrenaline not energy based attacks.Malchior you are thinking to much like a Sin.

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malchior
i'm very happy to hear that. However if you had made an attempt at reading what I said you would know that damage output isn't my goal, I have nukers for that.
If damage output isn't your goal, what is?

That's not really much of a tank/aggro build either. I mean yeah, you've got 100 AL + 16 AL from your shield, but Endure Pain is an "Oh Shit!" button at best, and you said yourself Lion's Comfort was an insufficient heal.

But, as I told you before, play what you want if you like it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Malchior damage output isn't my goal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
Malchior you are thinking to much like a Sin. How is he thinking like a Sin?

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
Warriors used to have the highest DPS in the game before prophecies and nightfall. Now they have assassins and dervishes to contend with, but the fact remains that warrior DPS is second to none.
Now if you chose to utilize that I guess is your decision.
If you come on here and post your build though, don't expect everyone to wow over it if you can't put out some big numbers.
Flourish doesn't do that.
Battle Rage doesn't either.

There are plenty of warrior builds that can deal damage and have utility on the same bar. You don't need to run a crap elite like Flourish to accomplish said goal. Sins have terrible DPS, they're spikers.

Malchior

Malchior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

London

Mana

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
Warriors used to have the highest DPS in the game before prophecies and nightfall. Now they have assassins and dervishes to contend with, but the fact remains that warrior DPS is second to none.
Now if you chose to utilize that I guess is your decision.
If you come on here and post your build though, don't expect everyone to wow over it if you can't put out some big numbers.
Flourish doesn't do that.
Battle Rage doesn't either.

There are plenty of warrior builds that can deal damage and have utility on the same bar. You don't need to run a crap elite like Flourish to accomplish said goal. Hi, welcome to the thread titled "Energy problems".

This thread was made to get tips on better energy management, not DPS. Thank you though.

Ps, No flourish isn't a crap elite, you only think it is simply because you don't agree with it.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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If Flourish isn't crap then Eviscerate, Dragon Slash, Steady Stance, Backbreaker, Devastating Hammer, Cleave and Crippling Slash and most importantly Echo are far too strong to be used.