Why are the good players being punished?

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Charr
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
Couple hours ago I got my Deldrimor Title up to rank 8, at first I was happy I got myself rank 8 untill I discovered that I can't receive Dwarven Raider Blessing anymore.
Now I consider myself to be a good player, but not good enough to refuse a +7 morale boost every time I kill 25 enemies, hell that morale boost is the main DP remover in dungeons for most people.
I know the I will be able to take the blessings again in HM, but what if I want to do a dungeon in NM again, should my efforts be crippled just because I wanted to make my Dwarwen skills better?
moriz
moriz
??ber t??k-n??sh'??n
#2
being able to grind out some pve title doesn't make you good. if you truly are a "good" player, then you don't need those blessings.
semantic
semantic
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
Ouch. Hadn't thought about that. I guess I'll only take the blessing in the tougher dungeons from here on out. Hate to waste my free morale boosts.


edit: and someone should change the title to: "Don't Max Delver!"
RPGmaniac
RPGmaniac
Desert Nomad
#4
There are consumables that will remove DP and/or give you morale. Just get some of those if you really need the morale.
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Boops
Ascalonian Squire
#5
killing snowmen makes me gud
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Charr
Frost Gate Guardian
#6
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Originally Posted by moriz
being able to grind out some pve title doesn't make you good. if you truly are a "good" player, then you don't need those blessings.
Well my dear friend, if you would have been so kind to ask me how I got my title before talking out of your ass, you would have been given an answer that my title comes from doing all the dungeons twice with h/h until i reached rank Daring Delver at which point I used my books and some farming to get to rank 8.

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Originally Posted by Charr
Now I consider myself to be a good player, but not good enough to refuse a +7 morale boost every time I kill 25 enemies, hell that morale boost is the main DP remover in dungeons for most people.
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There are consumables that will remove DP and/or give you morale. Just get some of those if you really need the morale.
Why should I be forced to pay for something, that a person who spends less time playing the game gets for free?
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Antheus
Forge Runner
#7
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Why should I be forced to pay for something, that a person who spends less time playing the game gets for free?
You're not. Unless someone is holding a gun to your head, you're not being forced.

This would be better if topic didn't imply something else. Good players don't have DP problems. And the occasional wipe is quickly cleared after killing a group or two of mobs.
arcanemacabre
arcanemacabre
Grotto Attendant
#8
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Originally Posted by Antheus
This would be better if topic didn't imply something else. Good players don't have DP problems. And the occasional wipe is quickly cleared after killing a group or two of mobs.
Bingo - bad players are being punished with DP, good players are rewarded with no DP and morale boosts from bosses. Your topic is misleading, OP.
Div
Div
I like yumy food!
#9
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Originally Posted by Charr
Well my dear friend, if you would have been so kind to ask me how I got my title before talking out of your ass, you would have been given an answer that my title comes from doing all the dungeons twice with h/h until i reached rank Daring Delver at which point I used my books and some farming to get to rank 8.
How you managed to beat the dungeons twice over and still rack up DP while doing dungeon areas is beyond me. I haven't had any DP issues with H&H...
iridescentfyre
iridescentfyre
Desert Nomad
#10
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Originally Posted by Charr
Why should I be forced to pay for something, that a person who spends less time playing the game gets for free?
That is a brutal distortion of what has happened. You are not being "punished." Its the game mechanics. Stop spinning it to make you sound like a victim. They aren't getting anything for free that you didn't already get. Its not their fault and its not Anet's fault that you spent so much time you capped your title as far as Normal mode is concerned.

If all that allowed you to do every dungeon was that morale boost, then be optimistic: consider it an opportunity to fix your builds.
Neo Nugget
Neo Nugget
Site Contributor
#11
Good players are patient players Wait for hard mode
Snow Bunny
Snow Bunny
Alcoholic From Yale
#12
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Originally Posted by Charr
Well my dear friend, if you would have been so kind to ask me how I got my title before talking out of your ass, you would have been given an answer that my title comes from doing all the dungeons twice with h/h until i reached rank Daring Delver at which point I used my books and some farming to get to rank 8.





Why should I be forced to pay for something, that a person who spends less time playing the game gets for free?
a. Doing dungeons doesn't make you a good player. I did the exact same thing you did. Doesn't make me good. GG.

b. HM ftw? (When it comes)
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Mac Sidewinder
Lion's Arch Merchant
#13
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
b. HM ftw? (When it comes)
IF it comes (keeps fingers crossed)

To the OP, if you're as good as you think you are then you shouldn't need the morale boost. If you still need it, then you have made enough money to buy a consumable or two.
Redfeather1975
Redfeather1975
Forge Runner
#14
Hard Mode is coming in 1-2 months.
So it was recorded in a Gaile chat on gwonline.
MirageMaster
MirageMaster
Banned
#15
screw HM and all those who use it.
Kotetsu Rain
Kotetsu Rain
Lion's Arch Merchant
#16
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Originally Posted by MirageMaster
screw HM and all those who use it.
Haha touchy touchy...without Hard Mode I probably wouldn't of went on with Maxing my Lightbringer title. It's already insanly easy to max the Deldrimor title (just keep doing a dungoun Secret Layer of The Snowmen or something.) Then ont e other side it's extremly messed up to try to farm Ebon points. Seige devourers FTW but very time consuming.

I welcome HM with open arms! Especially since for some reason Anet decided to let non max items drop and spawn from chests in a 'level 20 content area'
cthulhu reborn
cthulhu reborn
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
I would venture to say that your PvE skills are a lot more powerfull at level 8 to the point that you don't need to blessings anymore...maybe that's how Anet looks at it.
wetsparks
wetsparks
Desert Nomad
#18
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Originally Posted by Kotetsu Rain
Haha touchy touchy...without Hard Mode I probably wouldn't of went on with Maxing my Lightbringer title. It's already insanly easy to max the Deldrimor title (just keep doing a dungoun Secret Layer of The Snowmen or something.) Then ont e other side it's extremly messed up to try to farm Ebon points. Seige devourers FTW but very time consuming.

I welcome HM with open arms! Especially since for some reason Anet decided to let non max items drop and spawn from chests in a 'level 20 content area'
I have a feeling that when HM does come out everyone will be doing devourer runs. With more points per kill (hopefully, going off of what happened in Nightfall) we should be able to max our Ebon Vanguard fairly quickly. As to the other three titles, who knows.
CHunterX
CHunterX
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
Go grind the title for your other 7 characters. Grinding titles is fun!
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Sparks Dawnbringer
Krytan Explorer
#20
Well, I for one being what I consider an adverage to good player who likes to enjoy the game and max titles, find it sucks that at a certain level you cannot get the blessings. I understand why they would not give you the bounties but the blessings do help. And I like the kill counts. I don't like HM all that much and use the blessings to help get through some tight spots. So your teilling me that if a player who needs the blessings to do a dungeon at a certain point he would not be able to play because he cannot do the dungeons without blessings and boosts. People who pay for a product expect to be able to use all of it. I think you should get the moral boost in normal mode. I understand them wanting you to do a bit in HM to max titles. But to a lot of us HM is just not that much fun.

Like in Factions trying to speed through missions always bored me and I just did enough to get through and said the heck with it. GW took a short cut so they could do less content and thought speed makes a better player. Now, they say HM makes the better player they were wrong in Factions they are wrong here.

I was trying to get my title tracks as high as possible as soon as possible to take advantage of some the new skill that are title track actavated. So if getting my dwarven track high means no more blessings I'm not taking them any more. The dungeons are hard enough for me as is. I really think this is another way for them to force us to PUG. Because it is easier with a goup sometimes but sometimes not. Buit it is always more fun with one or 2 other people and heros! It's like they created this amazing house, sold it to people and cannot deal with the idea that the people might want to change the carpet.

And my strongest point is that the bounties and random bonus is fun. When my character leveled out in Nightfall it took a great amout of the fun out of the game. And I see the same thing happenig here. Once I cannot get the bounties I just start to get bored. So if you must take the points away leave the boost and the random bonus . Or if you must level out of the title tracks have it switch to experience. So the bounties would be the same but instead of Norn or Sunspear have it just be Experience. You get +1 experience for killing a Charr. That way we all get to enjoy a very fun aspect of the game when ever we use it.