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max gladius

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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L33t

25 Sep 2007 at 02:44 - 1

http://www.guildwars.com/events/contests/halloween2007/

I know atleast 200 ppl would rather have mini Panda over Kanaxai or Vizu... only reason most ppl would want mini Kanaxai or Vizu is to trade it for Panda...

Yet....

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Originally Posted by www.guildwars.com

# Grand Prize Winner (1 awarded): One Razor Guild Wars Death Adder Mouse; one signed copy of Guild Wars: Eye of the North; one complete set of Guild Wars Series 2 Skill Pins; plus an access key to acquire the ultra-rare in-game miniature, Kanaxai.
(Approximate total retail value of package: $150.00 US.)

# Winners (9 awarded): One Razor Guild Wars Death Adder Mouse; one signed copy of Guild Wars: Eye of the North or one complete set of Guild Wars Series 2 Skill Pins; plus an access key to acquire the rare in-game miniature, Vizu
(Approximate total retail value of package: $110.00 US.)

# Honorable Mentions (20 awarded): One signed copy of Guild Wars: Eye of the North or one complete set of Guild Wars Series 2 Skill Pins; plus an access key (randomly selected) to acquire one of the following special in-game miniatures: Panda or Island Guardian.
(Approximate total retail value of package: $40 US.)

I recommend Anet get a PR who knows what players want, desire, and adore... not base things off "well this worked before" or "well these are rarest by numbers"

Question... how do i ensure i get Honorable Mention? hahaha....

Food for thought on GW and where its going.... Unless they get a PR worth half a crap, things like this will going to continue....

I wonder if Gaile Gray even knows this giveaway is happening... from her prior lack of ingame / game knowledge....

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 02:49 - 2

Lmao...are you even serious?

Anet..I finally sympathize with you

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

25 Sep 2007 at 02:55 - 3

No pleasing some is there?

Seriously, time to grow up. You can't have everything you want, even if it is just a game.

Count yourself lucky they still run things like this after the extremely poor attitude some people have.

I for one am tired of these BS posts. Don't like the way the game is going, quit.

As for Gaile, I wouldn't visit either. While everyone is free to express their opinion, the crybaby attitude of the vast majority of people is quite pathetic. I've never seen so many grown people complain about the stupidest things in my life.

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 02:58 - 4

Hehe, the eternal dilemna Anet faces:
A)Please Joe wammo
B)Improve the game in the correct way

A) brings more sales, therefor it wins

Sad but true, I can't blame them at all though.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

25 Sep 2007 at 02:59 - 5

Well.....uhhh thanks for directing me to GW.com, i haven't checked it in a while, 3rd annual haloween

Thats all i care about. Thanks anet

hooray for haloween!

Hmm i wonder why they bolded all those letters in the announcement of the art contest....hm.

Anyway on topic: I the prices anet are giving out sound cool, i think of the mini as a bonus. I mean a signed copy of GW:EN?That's pretty spiffy

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

25 Sep 2007 at 02:59 - 6

So the third prize is a mini that has absolutely nothing to do with the guild wars universe and first prize is the final boss from an elite mission.

Sounds about right to me.

Except I don't think the panda should exist at all.

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

25 Sep 2007 at 02:59 - 7

poor game = poor player attitude end of story.... they r lucky to have ppl caring enough about the game to care about their events....

Can I take NEW IDEA for 400?!?
"Sorry all we have is reskinned, reissued ideas for 20...."

as for why Pandas exist ingame... i do agree with that question... "special for asia" well lets get some origionality and "special for USA" mini eagle, australia "kangaroo"... and so on....

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

25 Sep 2007 at 03:11 - 8

So turn in a mediocre design and hope for an honorable mention. What a useless thing to whine about. Don't like the prizes, don't participate.

Wow, I've really been saying that a lot lately, haven't I?

Phantom Gun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Minion Bombing in Elona

The Drunken Dragons [DRNK]

Rt/N

25 Sep 2007 at 03:22 - 9

So you are basing your opinion that Anet has no idea what players want because of who likes what mini pets?

Is this like a joke or what?

Brett Kuntz

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

25 Sep 2007 at 03:22 - 10

It's not like you'll win anyways.

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 03:27 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Gun

So you are basing your opinion that Anet has no idea what players want because of who likes what mini pets?

Is this like a joke or what?

It's a joke alright, but I don't think the OP gets the punchline.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

25 Sep 2007 at 03:29 - 12

I Love A-Net

Ultra Flame Bait ^

Terra Xin

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Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

25 Sep 2007 at 03:32 - 13

ooo they've begun preparing for halloween? Nice

fenix

Major-General Awesome

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25 Sep 2007 at 03:38 - 14

I like how they value the Kanaxai at $150 USD. Whereas if you sold it in game you'd get upwards of 8000 ecto. Which through various means could get you over $4000 USD. I just need to find a way to win....

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 03:43 - 15

Personally, I fail to see your argument.

In my opinion (Yes, just mine) Kanaxai is one of the best mini pets to have.

Mini Panda's are *way* to over rated and if it was as easy to get as a mini pig, it wouldn't be (It's just an animal, like the mini pig is, cool or not.)

Plus I could use a new mouse too.

In all honesty, Anet is not required to do any of this at all, not even an event, so personally I think it's pretty neat.

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Originally Posted by fenix

I like how they value the Kanaxai at $150 USD. Whereas if you sold it in game you'd get upwards of 8000 ecto. Which through various means could get you over $4000 USD. I just need to find a way to win....

What? I don't think Kanaxai has anything to do with the value of that package, Did you forget about the Mouse, the Expansion, skill pins?.. Sure, Kanaxai does have a value on Ebay, but that is not what is stated in that message, according to that message it is just an in game item, it retains no value at all. Anyone who has read A-Nets EULA would know that in game items are not to be sold, or have out-of-game value, they wouldn't support that.

I think that people on this site have reached an unrealistic state of mind, people here have lost all credibility.

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

No pleasing some is there?

Seriously, time to grow up. You can't have everything you want, even if it is just a game.

Count yourself lucky they still run things like this after the extremely poor attitude some people have.

I for one am tired of these BS posts. Don't like the way the game is going, quit.

As for Gaile, I wouldn't visit either. While everyone is free to express their opinion, the crybaby attitude of the vast majority of people is quite pathetic. I've never seen so many grown people complain about the stupidest things in my life.

QFT, atleast Malice here has brains still. In fact i would like to add that i nominate his post as post of the year. Round of applause.

roperratt

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon

Light Infantry Brigade

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25 Sep 2007 at 03:48 - 16

I would take a Vizu over all the other minis combined, I mean seriously, a hawt brunette that follows you every where? Whats not to love? I now have to use my imagination just good enough for 2nd place.

thor hammerbane

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dark Side of the Moon

Fat Kids Are Hard To Kid[nap]

25 Sep 2007 at 03:53 - 17

Be happy they are doing a contest at all. Also, not every1 shares your opinion. Some don't care bout minis, while some don't care about a panda. Either way, if you like gw and want to get into the spirit, you may get rewarded. Be happy!

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 03:55 - 18

trielementz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

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W/Mo

25 Sep 2007 at 04:08 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

I like how they value the Kanaxai at $150 USD. Whereas if you sold it in game you'd get upwards of 8000 ecto. Which through various means could get you over $4000 USD. I just need to find a way to win....

the 150 usd is prolly the mouse + GW:EN. Maybe the skill pins, but definitely not the miniature..

people have 8000 ectos?? man.

reverse_oreo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scars Meadows [SmS] Officer (not recruiting)

25 Sep 2007 at 04:10 - 20

I agree with malice, all people do in this game is complain complain and complain some more. It is a no fee game. If you want really amazing stuff, go to wow and pay 12 bucks a month. Be happy with what you get, Anet doesnt even have to do this. They could just say, forget halloween altogether. Stop your whining.

fenix

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25 Sep 2007 at 04:14 - 21

Quote:

What? I don't think Kanaxai has anything to do with the value of that package, Did you forget about the Mouse, the Expansion, skill pins?.. Sure, Kanaxai does have a value on Ebay, but that is not what is stated in that message, according to that message it is just an in game item, it retains no value at all. Anyone who has read A-Nets EULA would know that in game items are not to be sold, or have out-of-game value, they wouldn't support that.

I think that people on this site have reached an unrealistic state of mind, people here have lost all credibility.

So you're telling me that when you see Kanaxai as a prize, you DON'T think of how much money you can get (in game or out of game) for it? Because that's the ONLY thing I think of. It's a minipet I don't need, the money I do. The rest of the stuff is good for me to use, but I sure as hell wouldn't keep the pet.

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 04:16 - 22

Poor Anet...can't help but feel bad for them sometimes. No matter what they do the ingrates find something (anything) to complain about. :/

Sergeant of Marines

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

Japan

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Mo/

25 Sep 2007 at 04:19 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

No pleasing some is there?

Seriously, time to grow up. You can't have everything you want, even if it is just a game.

Count yourself lucky they still run things like this after the extremely poor attitude some people have.

I for one am tired of these BS posts. Don't like the way the game is going, quit.

As for Gaile, I wouldn't visit either. While everyone is free to express their opinion, the crybaby attitude of the vast majority of people is quite pathetic. I've never seen so many grown people complain about the stupidest things in my life.

Took the words right out of my mouth...

If you don't like it, then why play?

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

25 Sep 2007 at 04:19 - 24

What a senseless thing to whine about! You say you know tons of people who would want a mini panda, but complain that it's NOT the grand prize mini. Do you realize that since it's 3rd place, there'll be that many more Pandas introduced into the game?

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 04:22 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

So you're telling me that when you see Kanaxai as a prize, you DON'T think of how much money you can get (in game or out of game) for it? Because that's the ONLY thing I think of. It's a minipet I don't need, the money I do. The rest of the stuff is good for me to use, but I sure as hell wouldn't keep the pet.

Yup, that is what i am telling you.

Opinions, Points of view, and experiences vary folks.

Now we just have to let people figure that out for themselves.

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

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25 Sep 2007 at 04:24 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

So you're telling me that when you see Kanaxai as a prize, you DON'T think of how much money you can get (in game or out of game) for it? Because that's the ONLY thing I think of. It's a minipet I don't need, the money I do. The rest of the stuff is good for me to use, but I sure as hell wouldn't keep the pet.

That's the thing 50% of people see minipets as a big sack of dough while the other 50% see it as a big item they can show-off. Yes people can see it as a big bag of money but it's for that reason why they don't sell it. Just because you want to sell it doesn't mean everyone else wants to as well.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 04:25 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

? Because that's the ONLY thing I think of. It's a minipet I don't need, the money I do.

Money is the root of all evil.

fenix

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25 Sep 2007 at 04:29 - 28

Well that's the thing. A lot of people DO see the minipet as something to show off, but a lot of those don't know the value of it. I imagine if someone was offered the choice between the Kanaxai and the value of it (8000+ ecto), I know what they would choose.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

25 Sep 2007 at 04:34 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Well that's the thing. A lot of people DO see the minipet as something to show off, but a lot of those don't know the value of it. I imagine if someone was offered the choice between the Kanaxai and the value of it (8000+ ecto), I know what they would choose.

Whats your point?

Are you saying the kanaxai is too good of a pet to give as a prize?

fenix

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25 Sep 2007 at 04:40 - 30

Yeah, basically, they should give out something LESS rare and valuable. I don't see why they have to give out the rarest item in Guild Wars for a Halloween Contest...when there are far better prizes that aren't worth thousands of dollars irl.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

25 Sep 2007 at 04:41 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Yeah, basically, they should give out something LESS rare and valuable. I don't see why they have to give out the rarest item in Guild Wars for a Halloween Contest...when there are far better prizes that aren't worth thousands of dollars irl.

So....if it was a crappy mini-pet how many people would complain that its just a crappy mini-pet?

fenix

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25 Sep 2007 at 04:45 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

So....if it was a crappy mini-pet how many people would complain that its just a crappy mini-pet?

Well, far from crappy. There are a fair few minipets that people like, and are also rare (Naga, Oni, Island Guardian, etc). These would have made better minipet prizes, as they are rare, look cool, and are worth enough that someone can sell them if they don't like them (to buy another sort, or just for the money). The current prizes are kind of wrong...like the Kanaxai, Vizu and Panda. The value of them far outweighs the effort required to enter.

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Sep 2007 at 04:45 - 33

Yeah! They should have a mini Devourer as the grand prize!!!!

I'd enter for sure then! But the way things are now, the prizes are too good, so I won't enter. ^^

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

25 Sep 2007 at 04:52 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Well, far from crappy. There are a fair few minipets that people like, and are also rare (Naga, Oni, Island Guardian, etc). These would have made better minipet prizes, as they are rare, look cool, and are worth enough that someone can sell them if they don't like them (to buy another sort, or just for the money). The current prizes are kind of wrong...like the Kanaxai, Vizu and Panda. The value of them far outweighs the effort required to enter.

The value outweighs the effort?

But wouldnt a higher value prize bring entries of higher effort and better quality, thus negating the crap effort?

Then only entries with GOOD effort would actually DESERVE such a good prize?

Nuj08

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

R/Mo

25 Sep 2007 at 04:53 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

Well, far from crappy. There are a fair few minipets that people like, and are also rare (Naga, Oni, Island Guardian, etc). These would have made better minipet prizes, as they are rare, look cool, and are worth enough that someone can sell them if they don't like them (to buy another sort, or just for the money). The current prizes are kind of wrong...like the Kanaxai, Vizu and Panda. The value of them far outweighs the effort required to enter.

While this thread continues to amuse me as people turn this into a perennial flame fest, I'd just like to add that I know people willing to pay more for an island guardian than a vizu.

Btw, if I read correctly, a simple entry will not guarantee one from obtaining one of these pets as I thought you'd have to be selected?

P.S Eventually, all of these pets will become more common in case you haven't noticed as Anet continues to come up with ingenious ways of releasing more into the market. Stay tuned....

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

25 Sep 2007 at 05:03 - 36

Interesting read as I was thinking most players wanted Spartan Helms for their Paragons not Panda's. Geez we have only requested this since BEFORE the Nightfall release once Paragons were known. All we got were these stupid gay-like gems to put on your head.

Yeah I feel so bad ass Spartan - Roman like with forehead jewelry.

I swear the armor makers for male Paragon armor are a bunch of school girls or fags I'm unsure which.

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

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25 Sep 2007 at 05:13 - 37

You should be happy that they are actually holding the contest. If more of your whiny kind show up, they might as well not bother.

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

25 Sep 2007 at 05:27 - 38

Personally, I'd much rather have a Vizu. That's the only one of the asian minis I ever wanted anyway...

max gladius

Yep, really is me...

Join Date: Aug 2005

My House

L33t

25 Sep 2007 at 05:27 - 39

few main things I'm getting at are....

Where is originality in it? why redo same minis out?

And same time... since they are redoing the same minis that are out... why not make #1 the mini that more ppl would want, for their characters, not to just resell...

I can almost guarantee that the #1 and #2 winners, will sell their minis... might buy a panda... might buy nothing... but the fact is, why not make the reward something more of what players want? like a new mini...

Lord knows if I won top spots... I would just resell and get panda...

And I'm sure 90% or more of players would just resell, get no mini and keep the piles of ecto, or buy a panda or such...

The fact that many of the winners these such contest take the mini and resell it, ingame or on ebay, dependent... is a huge WTF that i continue to ask....

ppl now are driven to enter only to win and make it rich rather then to have a pet....

I was told that from the last such contest... 1 of the winners had to actualy go out and buy the game, just to recieve the pet... he only entered to win and resell on ebay....

That my friends, is pathetic!

All Anet cares about is the "appearance" of giving back to players... they give false hope to all the 15 yr olds who wants to feel that they gave something back to this game, the idea that they can win this prize, and have it... yet the 20 yr old art major in college is the winner of the prize, just to pay for a party during the upcoming weekend....

There are many huge layers to this... yet Anet looks right threw them all and just hits print screen and doesnt care what the results are... "this worked before" well its time that "hey, maybe we should try this" replaces that

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

25 Sep 2007 at 05:30 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by lacasner

Lmao...are you even serious?

Anet..I finally sympathize with you

Quote for truth.