I would say it was a fair review. They may have given it a little higher rating then I would have, but all it all fair.
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3163056
1UP.com Guild Wars EOTN review
lord dragon
Nemo the Capitalist
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MarlinBackna
Looking at the various reviews, the various complaining on guru, and my personal experiences, I believe everyone can agree on one thing: GWEN was over-hyped. The content that GWEN has isn't really up to par with the campaigns, but they counter that with saying "it's only an expansion". I had high hopes for GWEN and they kind of fell flat. The dungeons for the most part are good, but I am most disappointed the most in HoM and the armor. Good thing I like the Warrior Monument Armor (even though it is a mixed-up reskin), or else I would be complaining about it more. HoM needs to be able to include more, which they have said. The longevity of GW1 I think depends on major updates in the future (like the Sunspear skills or making all armors have insignia). If they do those ~2-3 months, I'll still play. They seemed to make GWEN more than it really was, and after they received the criticism for, they point to the word "expansion".
Wulfgast
With the scathing remarks in that review, I'm surprised it got over a 5.0 after scoring was considered. Seems strange. I personally think 1up really hit the nail on the head with the HoM portion, though.
Anet has made a reputation for themselves by listening to its player base, so they're well-aware that 70-80% of the community is unhappy with GW:EN. I'd expect a very major update in the near future, especially since they've been so quiet about things recently.
Anet has made a reputation for themselves by listening to its player base, so they're well-aware that 70-80% of the community is unhappy with GW:EN. I'd expect a very major update in the near future, especially since they've been so quiet about things recently.
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With the scathing remarks in that review, I'm surprised it got over a 5.0 after scoring was considered. Seems strange. I personally think 1up really hit the nail on the head with the HoM portion, though.
Anet has made a reputation for themselves by listening to its player base, so they're well-aware that 70-80% of the community is unhappy with GW:EN. I'd expect a very major update in the near future, especially since they've been so quiet about things recently. |
Please remember...
I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
trielementz
the game isn't half bad. it's just that we have expected more of ANet after campaigns 1 thru 3. EotN, though fun in its own way, wasn't it. The differences between Prophecies and EotN are many, but there has never been so much debate over 'grinding' than in EotN. I'd say the reviewer hit the nail on the head on that.
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the game isn't half bad. it's just that we have expected more of ANet after campaigns 1 thru 3.
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The reviewer hit the issues on the head.
I have, since I started posting given GW:en a rating of 6.5
It's nice to see something more official support my feelings.
Kook~NBK~
It sounds to me like the reviewer just looked at all the complaints on fan-site forums and condensed them into his article.
Vinraith
I like GWEN, but then I didn't read the prepress for it. It's a nice collection of additional endgame content. Is it the equal of a chapter? Of course not. Does it provide a lot of fun and interesting things to do? I think so. I'd say, in all, it was about $10 overpriced. I'm not at all sorry I bought it, though.
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It sounds to me like the reviewer just looked at all the complaints on fan-site forums and condensed them into his article.
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I like GWEN, but then I didn't read the prepress for it. It's a nice collection of additional endgame content. Is it the equal of a chapter? Of course not. Does it provide a lot of fun and interesting things to do? I think so. I'd say, in all, it was about $10 overpriced. I'm not at all sorry I bought it, though.
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so they're well-aware that 70-80% of the community is unhappy with GW:EN.
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sindex
Ryan has had on a chip on his shoulder, since Factions went live. I mean look at his blogs, it’s nothing but biased one way information that seems to go nowhere. Even worse then some people I have seen here, including myself that bickers about GW current state. Not meaning that he does not have a right to his own opinion. Nevertheless I think it’s time someone at 1up, hired someone new to replace Ryan’s ravings.
Gigashadow
The money is not the problem for me; it could have cost $30, $40, or $50, and it wouldn't have made a lick of difference. If you're spending hours a day playing a game, and then yet more time discussing it on some forums, the actual cost you should be concerned about is your time, not a measly $10.
EoTN is disappointing because while it's not bad, it's not as good as the previous chapters -- not even close. Factions had a better campaign, a couple of new classes, as well as some fun casual PvP (FA, AB, etc.) that, while disparaged, I know many people actually had a lot of fun playing in. Nightfall had an even better campaign, and added Heroes and two more classes. And of course there were plenty of new skins for armor and weapons, and plenty of new game-changing skills all round (as well as new Elite skills). The two campaigns just felt so damn cool in every way.
EoTN really didn't add jack in terms of things I actually care about, and certain things they did spend time developing make no sense - the Eye of Monuments is a horrible abortion of a feature in every respect, and development resources should have gone elsewhere.
Overall EOTN is all right, in terms of something to keep me amused for a little while (I'm not complaining about the price), but it is uninspired and nowhere near as fun as the previous two campaigns, and the replayability factor is far less - for whatever reason, I have zero motivation to take any of my other characters through the EOTN campaign.
EOTN feels like it was pushed out the door as fast as possible. The graphics have a high production value as always, and Jeremy Soule's music is superlative as ever, but the entire campaign is an empty, soulless experience.
EoTN is disappointing because while it's not bad, it's not as good as the previous chapters -- not even close. Factions had a better campaign, a couple of new classes, as well as some fun casual PvP (FA, AB, etc.) that, while disparaged, I know many people actually had a lot of fun playing in. Nightfall had an even better campaign, and added Heroes and two more classes. And of course there were plenty of new skins for armor and weapons, and plenty of new game-changing skills all round (as well as new Elite skills). The two campaigns just felt so damn cool in every way.
EoTN really didn't add jack in terms of things I actually care about, and certain things they did spend time developing make no sense - the Eye of Monuments is a horrible abortion of a feature in every respect, and development resources should have gone elsewhere.
Overall EOTN is all right, in terms of something to keep me amused for a little while (I'm not complaining about the price), but it is uninspired and nowhere near as fun as the previous two campaigns, and the replayability factor is far less - for whatever reason, I have zero motivation to take any of my other characters through the EOTN campaign.
EOTN feels like it was pushed out the door as fast as possible. The graphics have a high production value as always, and Jeremy Soule's music is superlative as ever, but the entire campaign is an empty, soulless experience.
cthulhu reborn
Well, I like GWEN.
I think there was too much whining and angry responses BEFORE the game came out. Too much speculation and omg's going around before people even played it and so the tone was set.
I think that Anet's advertising doesn't even compare to the sh*tload of negativity that came out before anyone even played a minute of the game so I blame the people themselves more for having wrong expectations rather than any hyping.
As with any of the other campaigns there are some things that could've been better so I am not saying it's all perfect but then no single game ever was in my view.
My advice to people is to not read these forums about 1-2 months before a new game comes out so they have a chance of judging the game themselves rather than being worn down by all the negativity.
This review doesn't feel like the guy actually played the game through himself so I don't stick much value on it. He is simply rehashing things others have said already and whereas some may agree, others may not.
I think there was too much whining and angry responses BEFORE the game came out. Too much speculation and omg's going around before people even played it and so the tone was set.
I think that Anet's advertising doesn't even compare to the sh*tload of negativity that came out before anyone even played a minute of the game so I blame the people themselves more for having wrong expectations rather than any hyping.
As with any of the other campaigns there are some things that could've been better so I am not saying it's all perfect but then no single game ever was in my view.
My advice to people is to not read these forums about 1-2 months before a new game comes out so they have a chance of judging the game themselves rather than being worn down by all the negativity.
This review doesn't feel like the guy actually played the game through himself so I don't stick much value on it. He is simply rehashing things others have said already and whereas some may agree, others may not.
Hippie Bane
GW:EN is a gathering of reskins, wrapped around a very weak story and padded with a huge amount of grind. Based on the sheer awesomeness that was Prophecies, I keep buying addons. Factions was okay, Nightfall was great, but GW:EN was the first one that ever made me seriously wonder if I had overpaid.
Basically, I thought the review was accurate and fair. The endgame cinema should have just said, in big glowy letters, "BUY GUILD WARS 2" for 3 minutes.
The rascism of the Asura is disturbing. I see "bookah" and think of other words that get white boys from Louisiana beat up and Al Sharpton called in. The required grind to use skills effectively, let alone to buy the weapons, armor and consumables, is insulting and meant for sheer padding. The dungeons are nice, but one can tell that a minimum of effort was placed into preparing them seeing as how there are maybe 8 rooms that just get tossed around with semi-unique hallways between them. Every armor is a reskin of another 15k set from earlier in the series. The non-profession specific armor is kinda neat, but at 250 whatevers is also annoying. 250 destroyer cores so I can have cracked lava hands? Only if I have nothing better to do. 75 ectos so I can have white hands? I'd rather have a tormented weapon for less than that price. I'd rather have base PVP skins than destroyer weapons.
Long story short, it bothers me that ANet could get Nightfall so right and GW:EN so very wrong. They really phoned it in this time.
Basically, I thought the review was accurate and fair. The endgame cinema should have just said, in big glowy letters, "BUY GUILD WARS 2" for 3 minutes.
The rascism of the Asura is disturbing. I see "bookah" and think of other words that get white boys from Louisiana beat up and Al Sharpton called in. The required grind to use skills effectively, let alone to buy the weapons, armor and consumables, is insulting and meant for sheer padding. The dungeons are nice, but one can tell that a minimum of effort was placed into preparing them seeing as how there are maybe 8 rooms that just get tossed around with semi-unique hallways between them. Every armor is a reskin of another 15k set from earlier in the series. The non-profession specific armor is kinda neat, but at 250 whatevers is also annoying. 250 destroyer cores so I can have cracked lava hands? Only if I have nothing better to do. 75 ectos so I can have white hands? I'd rather have a tormented weapon for less than that price. I'd rather have base PVP skins than destroyer weapons.
Long story short, it bothers me that ANet could get Nightfall so right and GW:EN so very wrong. They really phoned it in this time.
WinterSnowblind
I stopped reading 1up reviews some time ago, they tend to be extremely biased. If you look at the Pokemon XD review the Gamecube, the guy actually starts out by saying how much he personally hates Pokemon and all the games. Uh.. fair enough, but he doesn't really sound like the type of person who should be reviewing it.
In the Neverwinter Nights 2 review, they basically tried to compare it to Oblivion and say it sucked on that bases..
In the Neverwinter Nights 2 review, they basically tried to compare it to Oblivion and say it sucked on that bases..
cthulhu reborn
I really wonder why people are so upset that Anet wants to entice people to buy the next game.
Movies, books and TV series use cliffhangers and we don't think it's bad and then Anet does it and all of a sudden it's evil and wrong...I think that argument is complete nonesense.
Movies, books and TV series use cliffhangers and we don't think it's bad and then Anet does it and all of a sudden it's evil and wrong...I think that argument is complete nonesense.
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I really wonder why people are so upset that Anet wants to entice people to buy the next game.
Movies, books and TV series use cliffhangers and we don't think it's bad and then Anet does it and all of a sudden it's evil and wrong...I think that argument is complete nonesense. |
Please remember...
I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
Bryant Again
These are from the same people that gave GW a "game of the year" award. Ouch.
Mordakai
Ouch. That's a pretty harsh review. Yes, GWEN can be completed quickly. But I haven't finished it yet. GWEN is meant for casual players, not the hard core players it seemed to be advertised for.
The Grind complaint is over-stated: people don't complain you have to finish Nightfall to get Primordial armor do they? What's the difference between killing monsters to get armor, and killing monsters to progress through a storyline? You're basically doing the same thing.
Yes, the new races could have been introduced better. But, even the most jaded Guild Wars player has to admit the voice-acting is the best ever, the graphics are impressive, and the storyline is actually decent, although predictable.
If the biggest complaint is that it's over too quick, isn't that really a compliment? After all, my biggest complaint would be if it wasn't worth finishing.
The Grind complaint is over-stated: people don't complain you have to finish Nightfall to get Primordial armor do they? What's the difference between killing monsters to get armor, and killing monsters to progress through a storyline? You're basically doing the same thing.
Yes, the new races could have been introduced better. But, even the most jaded Guild Wars player has to admit the voice-acting is the best ever, the graphics are impressive, and the storyline is actually decent, although predictable.
If the biggest complaint is that it's over too quick, isn't that really a compliment? After all, my biggest complaint would be if it wasn't worth finishing.
Cyan Rhae
Well every1 loved prophecies, factions was very average, nightfall only had doa that was interesting and gwen, its basicly a game that doesnt have a lot to offer at all... a-net has lost my credit that they earned with prophecies and they have to make a hell of a good game to earn it back.
Mordakai
Another harsh review (although funnier to read):
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=83239
More hate for Asuras.... oh, and note to reviewer: Dwarves will not be playable in GW2!
Oh, and hey, a positive review! But, sadly, it feels like they didn't even play the game (more of a preview than review):
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guild...subj=61787 57
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=83239
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Oh, and hey, a positive review! But, sadly, it feels like they didn't even play the game (more of a preview than review):
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guild...subj=61787 57
jayson
To me GWEN looked to have a great start. After working on the landscapes, the new races and the graphic upgrades it seems they ran out of time. The story is a good one but told too quickly. Weapons,armor and monsters suffer from too many reskins or none at all. The HoM isn't a bad idea but it's execution was. Dungeons were a big feature as well but too many reused areas once again took away from the overall experience. I honestly wish that they just took their time with this and gave us the game I'm sure they knew how to make.
This really could've been a true game and not an expansion with the introduction of the Asura and Norn. A lot of area is still yet to be uncovered in Tyria and they could've made use of that. A longer fight against the charr would've been nice while still worrying about the threat to the destroyers. The charr would've been the problem for the vanguard and the destroyers the problem for the asura. The Norn are their to help out and fill a cool second class for the game. All end game level content and no noob island needed. Learn as you play.
This really could've been a true game and not an expansion with the introduction of the Asura and Norn. A lot of area is still yet to be uncovered in Tyria and they could've made use of that. A longer fight against the charr would've been nice while still worrying about the threat to the destroyers. The charr would've been the problem for the vanguard and the destroyers the problem for the asura. The Norn are their to help out and fill a cool second class for the game. All end game level content and no noob island needed. Learn as you play.
axe
The thing that disappoints me most about GWEN is the fact that I have been disappointed before GWEN and I was really hoping that GWEN would re-spark the fire for me. And then I could quit logging in just to stare at the screen.
Basically as short a story as GWEN is I still haven't even finished it because I personally have more fun doing other things. I just couldn't bring myself to even complete the game.
I HIGHLY recommended Nightfall to a friend of mine and specifically told him NOT to buy GWEN (he did anyways though lol)
The good part about GWEN is that it made me like Factions in comparison.
Basically as short a story as GWEN is I still haven't even finished it because I personally have more fun doing other things. I just couldn't bring myself to even complete the game.
I HIGHLY recommended Nightfall to a friend of mine and specifically told him NOT to buy GWEN (he did anyways though lol)
The good part about GWEN is that it made me like Factions in comparison.
Vinraith
Complaints about GWEN being short baffle me. The actual storyline is about nine missions long, but the 18 multilevel dungeons certainly constitute a lot of content. It may not be content you like (I for one, think they're pretty cool) but I don't see how you can claim there's a lack of things to do.
And for the record I quite like the Asura, they're smartasses. If GW2 ends up being appealing (ie has sufficient support for solo players, retains a good skill system, and manages to limit persistance and make it non-intrusive) I plan on playing one.
And for the record I quite like the Asura, they're smartasses. If GW2 ends up being appealing (ie has sufficient support for solo players, retains a good skill system, and manages to limit persistance and make it non-intrusive) I plan on playing one.
Bryant Again
People who consider GW:EN short are the same kind of people who consider Oblivion, Fable, etc. to be short: That's not the point.
The point of those games is to get you to explore the world, enter the dungeons, vanquish baddies, etc. Sure they have stories to play through, but they all offer soooo much more than that.
The point of those games is to get you to explore the world, enter the dungeons, vanquish baddies, etc. Sure they have stories to play through, but they all offer soooo much more than that.
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Another harsh review (although funnier to read):
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=83239 More hate for Asuras.... oh, and note to reviewer: Dwarves will not be playable in GW2! Oh, and hey, a positive review! But, sadly, it feels like they didn't even play the game (more of a preview than review): http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guild...subj=61787 57 |
The great news for me is that all of the reviews are coming out so soon. Now, when GW2 comes out, I don't have to buy it right away and can wait to see if it is a GWEN fiasco or a good product by the reviews. Seems most of them have acknowledged the grind. Most of them have acknowledged the content issue.
Just hope the GW2 reviews come out to let us know if we need to spend our money on GW2 or start looking for another game to play.
Please remember...
I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
lord dragon
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People who consider GW:EN short are the same kind of people who consider Oblivion, Fable, etc. to be short: That's not the point.
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Complaints about GWEN being short baffle me. The actual storyline is about nine missions long, but the 18 multilevel dungeons certainly constitute a lot of content. It may not be content you like (I for one, think they're pretty cool) but I don't see how you can claim there's a lack of things to do.
And for the record I quite like the Asura, they're smartasses. If GW2 ends up being appealing (ie has sufficient support for solo players, retains a good skill system, and manages to limit persistance and make it non-intrusive) I plan on playing one. |
Please remember...
I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Ouch indeed. He hit the nail on the head with the reskins, HoM & the price.
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I would say it was a fair review. They may have given it a little higher rating then I would have, but all it all fair.
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"your elite armor (only if your grind the platinum to buy it)"
...something which just screams hes lazey to me! Since when has it ever been an issue to need platinum for armor? Its one of the easiest things to do. Buying armor is beyond easy in GWs! Getting "elite" armor in alternative MMOs like WoW is far harder and alot more expensive and some pieces you have to farm bosses to get with very law drop rates.
And he wants to complain about how you get armor in GWs? thats laughable!
I cant take the rest of that review serious because of that one line. That writer is obviously biased because he'd rather everything was just given to him/her.
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...something which just screams hes lazey to me! Since when has it ever been an issue to need platinum for armor? Its one of the easiest things to do. Buying armor is beyond easy in GWs!
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The issue I have with that review is when the writer says...
"your elite armor (only if your grind the platinum to buy it)" ...something which just screams hes lazey to me! Since when has it ever been an issue to need platinum for armor? Its one of the easiest things to do. Buying armor is beyond easy in GWs! Getting "elite" armor in alternative MMOs like WoW is far harder and alot more expensive and some pieces you have to farm bosses to get with very law drop rates. And he wants to complain about how you get armor in GWs? thats laughable! I cant take the rest of that review serious because of that one line. That writer is obviously biased because he'd rather everything was just given to him/her. |
Like I said before. If it was one review, could put it down to the reviewer. After reading it again, I believe he hit it pretty well with the exception of the rating being a little high.
Please remember...
I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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that would be 48 sets of elite armor.
others had the same story except it ranged from 6 to 15 characters
since most people are not super power traders that represents in most cases well over 1000 + hours of farming to be able to buy all that rare materials needed for that many characters
thausand (s) of hours farming and they bitch at a few hours rep farming to open the shop
their farming is the big grind and they dont even complain a bit about that
dsnesnintendo
you know what gwen needed
ninjas
that is all
ninjas
that is all
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one earlier poster on another thread brought 12 characters over to GWEN intending to get all sets of armor for all of them.
that would be 48 sets of elite armor. others had the same story except it ranged from 6 to 15 characters since most people are not super power traders that represents in most cases well over 1000 + hours of farming to be able to buy all that rare materials needed for that many characters thausand (s) of hours farming and they bitch at a few hours rep farming to open the shop their farming is the big grind and they dont even complain a bit about that |
As for 1000's of hours farming, where would it take that long to farm to get anything prior to GWEN except Obsidian? Guess DOA is paying off better then I thought as I have given away 1000 of platinum to guild and alliance friends. It is not hard to make money in the game at all. You just have to farm the areas that most don't want to, or feel it is to hard to.
Please remember...
I must not GRIND. GRIND is the mind-killer. GRIND is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GRIND... I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
trielementz
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...8&postcount=14
.. you can't afford a ~3k item
.. yet you easily condemn somebody not rich enough to buy armor at 10k apiece as lazy.
Not launching personal attacks here. While I agree that the cost of elite armors is not totally prohibitive, it is still high enough to give new players problems, so his point is not moot. Let's not be too insensitive shall we?
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I cant really afford to spend any gold on white dye to show you either. Sorry!
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Not launching personal attacks here. While I agree that the cost of elite armors is not totally prohibitive, it is still high enough to give new players problems, so his point is not moot. Let's not be too insensitive shall we?
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I will give the reviewer points since, nowadays, it is *much* much much slower getting money through playing the game, which is something you've highly advocated for. The horrid rare item droprate doesn't really help.
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Within in 2 weeks of GWEN being released and starting from 0 gold both times, I made enough gold for both Norn and Vanguard armor!
I made that gold purely from doing quests, dungeons and bounty hunting. Then selling all items to the merchant.
Im not a farmer, and Im not a hardcore player. That was from just 2-4 hours a day or night! Hmm.... yeah its really hard to make gold these days!
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HHHmmmm. Does that mean because of one line in all your posts that I can catagorize all of it as not serious? Just wanted to make sure.
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However, the reveiwer tried to state that buying elite armor requires endless grinding for gold! Which is just laughable, for the very reason I have mentioned above!
If armor requires grind, then how did I make around 140k in just 2 weeks for 2 sets of armor? Starting from 0 gold each time! Purely from questing and dungeons and exploring with bounties.
Now I accept that alot of lvl20 characters (for some odd reason) seem to have a hard time making gold. But I cant understand it for those very reasons I mentioned!
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I usually have on average about 1-5k for prolonged amounts of time, unless Im saving up for expensive stuff. Not something I do alot, unless I want new armor or a weapon.
But the point being that its not hard to make that extra gold if I need to.
The white dye wasnt a priority and from previous experience white doesnt look nice on vangaurd armor (IMO). Why would I spend 3k I need for more important prestige armor? I dont have money hidden under my ninja mask!