Anet may not be in charge of pricing but they are the communities conduit in communicating all aspects of Guildwars. They are also in charge of promoting the game. Also as the poster stated with what happened with the Iphone and Apple offering a rebate to all customers that bought the phone 2 months before the price drop. I think his argument was valid and should not have been flamed by a moderator.
Just my opinion
Here Is Best Buy's Link
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....equestid=54351
Eye Of The North 29.99 Best Buy
just call me jimmy
Sleeper Service
i guess that "free" bonus back i got with the game was finally bought after all.
funny how i had a feeling this would happen.
now we know how much they will be selling them for then huh.
funny how i had a feeling this would happen.
now we know how much they will be selling them for then huh.
MMSDome
who cares you wanted the game early so you paid the money for it.
HawkofStorms
That thread was rightfully closed because the OP began his post screaming at a.net for the price change.
Price drops happen all the time and with the approaching Christmas holiday it should not be a surprise. The Apple refund thing is a completely different thing.
A) The apple price drop was $100 dollars. You are complaining about a price drop of $10 dollars. That's a big difference. Apple's customer's were screwed. You were inconvienced.
B) Apple can afford to supply a rebate, being a behemoth company compared to NCSoft.
Price drops happen all the time and with the approaching Christmas holiday it should not be a surprise. The Apple refund thing is a completely different thing.
A) The apple price drop was $100 dollars. You are complaining about a price drop of $10 dollars. That's a big difference. Apple's customer's were screwed. You were inconvienced.
B) Apple can afford to supply a rebate, being a behemoth company compared to NCSoft.
jhu
i bought my copy at the on-line store. i think the price was reasonable, and anet gets all the profits instead of having to split it with the retailer. i'm fine with that. it's the same as buying an album in a store or downloading the songs from a band's website and cutting them a check. i'd rather do the latter than the former.
Sleeper Service
hey no complaining going on here.
just saying. future bonus packs will cost 10$ thats all.
just saying. future bonus packs will cost 10$ thats all.
just call me jimmy
To Hawkofstorms.
I am assuming what the poster meant by using the apple analogy was that when a company drastically reduces the cost of a product 2 months after release that is a pretty shameless thing to do.
Also when you look at price drops try not look at actual dollars, instead look at percentages. The reaction to the Iphone was not about the 100$ if it was you should;t even own one. It was about reducing the cost so drastically. 29.99 is a 25% reduction and for us Canadians a 50% reduction( seeing as our dollar is = to yours now) in price after 1 month of release, that is crazy. Also please do not say it is a sale price, because as we all know once one does it, they all do it, then the consumer expects it and the price is fixed.
PS. Like i said earlier, just my opinion
I am assuming what the poster meant by using the apple analogy was that when a company drastically reduces the cost of a product 2 months after release that is a pretty shameless thing to do.
Also when you look at price drops try not look at actual dollars, instead look at percentages. The reaction to the Iphone was not about the 100$ if it was you should;t even own one. It was about reducing the cost so drastically. 29.99 is a 25% reduction and for us Canadians a 50% reduction( seeing as our dollar is = to yours now) in price after 1 month of release, that is crazy. Also please do not say it is a sale price, because as we all know once one does it, they all do it, then the consumer expects it and the price is fixed.
PS. Like i said earlier, just my opinion
wetsparks
I doubt Arena Net has much say in the price of their games, NCSoft as the parent company probably makes all of those decisions and just tells Arena Net to pump out games as fast as possible.
lyra_song
Maybe the words "Special Offer" and "On Sale" mean something?
unienaule
You misunderstood my point. My point was that it's not Anet lowering the price, because it's still 39.99 in their store. That thread was full of rants, this one is not.
Shadis
Should've been $29.99 as a starting price considering the extremely rushed feel and lack of actual content the Expansion has provided. A truly sad conclusion to the first set of Guild Wars games.
I saw it posted elsewhere that it felt like one giant interactive Guild Wars 2 commercial.
I saw it posted elsewhere that it felt like one giant interactive Guild Wars 2 commercial.
HayesA
Anet sets a MSRP on GW: EoTN. However, the MSRP is really only a guideline price; it's what anet says "I wan't you to sell it at this price. But you don't have to if you don't want to. But if you do, you make more money off each sale! Cool, huh?"
So, if target, or bestbuy, or where-ever, sets the price at 20 dollars they're allowed to. Prices will always be the MSRP when it first comes out; as time goes on, prices always drop. That's the price of wanting something now.
So, if target, or bestbuy, or where-ever, sets the price at 20 dollars they're allowed to. Prices will always be the MSRP when it first comes out; as time goes on, prices always drop. That's the price of wanting something now.
lyra_song
*cough*ColumbusDaySale*cough*
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Anet sets a MSRP on GW: EoTN. However, the MSRP is really only a guideline price; it's what anet says "I wan't you to sell it at this price. But you don't have to if you don't want to. But if you do, you make more money off each sale! Cool, huh?"
So, if target, or bestbuy, or where-ever, sets the price at 20 dollars they're allowed to. Prices will always be the MSRP when it first comes out; as time goes on, prices always drop. That's the price of wanting something now. |
A 25% price reduction basically within a month of release tells you how well the product has sold and what the expected future sales rate is. Obviously at $40 the game stopped selling so either retailers begged to be allowed to offer it lower or NC Soft decided to allow retailers to lower their price to try to create some sales.
Yes, it is quite disappointing for those of us that bought it right away but there's really nothing we can do. Early adopters always pay a higher price, too bad in this case it was for such a rushed product that didn't live up to expectations.
N E D M
also it is [size=20]$39.99 USD[/size] in the in game store
edit : sigh , do any of the tags work on this forum?
edit : sigh , do any of the tags work on this forum?
Riceboi
Too bad I'm still not buying it. lmao Maybe when it goes to $20.
Winterclaw
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Walmart also has GWEN for about 40 bucks so I wouldn't be complaing about any major price cut.
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LifeInfusion
Uh it's because it is an expansion that requires a previous chapter that it had a limited target userbase. Plus the bad publicity from the Hall of Monuments being terrible, the grind for reputation,...and pvpers not having much incentive (given it would be $40USD for 100 skills) makes it an even smaller user base.
The expansion is a fan service, nothing more if you think about it. The fact that it is an expansion requiring a previous chapter is a sure sign of this. (The quote at http://gw.warcry.com/news/view/74997...e-of-the-North confirms it... "[Eye of the North] is a fan service expansion," Jeff Strain, one of ArenaNet's Co-Founders told us during the demonstration)
When something doesn't sell or is overstocked (probably overstocked in this case) the price is lowered by retailers. I don't think that GW:EN didn't sell well, I think the combination of a small market and a large supply meant the prices had to drop.
The recent patches to GW:EN give me hope that the userbase will expand with time due to fixing a lot of the issues raised since the preview event, however.
The expansion is a fan service, nothing more if you think about it. The fact that it is an expansion requiring a previous chapter is a sure sign of this. (The quote at http://gw.warcry.com/news/view/74997...e-of-the-North confirms it... "[Eye of the North] is a fan service expansion," Jeff Strain, one of ArenaNet's Co-Founders told us during the demonstration)
When something doesn't sell or is overstocked (probably overstocked in this case) the price is lowered by retailers. I don't think that GW:EN didn't sell well, I think the combination of a small market and a large supply meant the prices had to drop.
The recent patches to GW:EN give me hope that the userbase will expand with time due to fixing a lot of the issues raised since the preview event, however.
Winterclaw
Walmart has always been bad with price cuts on games and they rarely carry the best selection in my area. I save more on less wasted gas driving to Best Buy or EBgames, both of which are closer. Thus I tend not to shop there for my games.
Jetdoc
Every single chapter has had a price cut in retail stores about a month after its release. Heck, there's normally a SECOND price cut that will take another $5.00 (or so) off in a few more weeks, if you want to wait that long.
I haven't paid full price for any of the chapters so far.
I haven't paid full price for any of the chapters so far.
NoXiFy
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That thread was rightfully closed because the OP began his post screaming at a.net for the price change.
Price drops happen all the time and with the approaching Christmas holiday it should not be a surprise. The Apple refund thing is a completely different thing. A) The apple price drop was $100 dollars. You are complaining about a price drop of $10 dollars. That's a big difference. Apple's customer's were screwed. You were inconvienced. B) Apple can afford to supply a rebate, being a behemoth company compared to NCSoft. |
Apple offered $100 to anyone thats ever bought the iPhone, and $200 to everyone that bought it within like 2 weeks of the price drop.
All I stated was that I'm kinda bummed to the fact that NF HAS NEVER HAD A PRICE DROP, factions is still $40, and prophecies is still $30... so why did Anet give the go to sell GW:EN for $10 less within a month of it dropping! It's crazy IMO.
unienaule
I actually have a question though, if it really was Anet who gave the ok, why is it $40 in the online store?
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thats what id do at least.
maraxusofk
i dont see why anybody will complain about seeing a price drop. for example, i bought a game system. now the system sees a price drop. would i say "0H N43S I L4ST M0N7EZ" i knew a system was gonna have a price drop, but i pay the price for being an early adopter. the same thign applies to games. all those who bought halo 3 for 60 CANNOT complain about a future price drop because they knew games will drop in price when they bought the game early.
just call me jimmy
I am glad to see this thread is turning out positive, GG on all the responses so far. Except 1!
Also to answer your question the reason is probably to see if the sales at that store improve, giving them an idea of the reaction if they do an across the board reduction, or give the stores a little flexibility on pricing meaning they don;t loose as much money. The online store would be the last to change prices seeing as it is directly run by NC Soft.
To the last poster I normally would say you are Totally right, and you maybe right on this. But a price drop of 25% in 30 days. Even that caught my eye as a brutally bad thing for any major company to do considering they pay people 10's of thousands of dollars to properly market and price point their products Remember us Canadians 50% price cut LOL (show the Canadians!!! some love)
Also to answer your question the reason is probably to see if the sales at that store improve, giving them an idea of the reaction if they do an across the board reduction, or give the stores a little flexibility on pricing meaning they don;t loose as much money. The online store would be the last to change prices seeing as it is directly run by NC Soft.
To the last poster I normally would say you are Totally right, and you maybe right on this. But a price drop of 25% in 30 days. Even that caught my eye as a brutally bad thing for any major company to do considering they pay people 10's of thousands of dollars to properly market and price point their products Remember us Canadians 50% price cut LOL (show the Canadians!!! some love)
MudBone
IMO since GW:EN is an expansion(requiring one of the 3 full standalone campaigns) it should not have been priced in the same league as the 3 full standalone campaigns. Expansions, IMO should sell for no more than $19.99 to $24.99 just because it's an expansion.
A11Eur0
This is what I've been saying all along...glad people finally have the huevos to say it with me.
phoenixtech
It costs retail stores $$$ to keep ANYTHING on the shelf, you guys know that right? If you have overstocked a game that isn't selling that well of course you'd try to lower the price to get rid of it.
dwc89
I'm not really surprised by this, Anet does have the mission packs available only to those who make an online purchase of X $$. How many people bought EotN online because of that, I know I did. And it is the only reason I bought at the online store.
So I'm guessing that retailers overestimated box sales, should have read the forums - lol.
I did read somewhere that EotN did top sales in Europe the week of release, saw nothing about it making a dent in North America. Of course that may have something to do with the online store sales.
The other thing I forgot to mention, how many would have been turned off about the mission pack promo thing. If you bought it online you get, if at store you don't - and all for the same price.
So I'm guessing that retailers overestimated box sales, should have read the forums - lol.
I did read somewhere that EotN did top sales in Europe the week of release, saw nothing about it making a dent in North America. Of course that may have something to do with the online store sales.
The other thing I forgot to mention, how many would have been turned off about the mission pack promo thing. If you bought it online you get, if at store you don't - and all for the same price.
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Lyra is right; it’s just a sale for now.
VitisVinifera
wow am I actually going to defend anet? I believe so.
I've worked in the retail industry (I made wine, which is entirely different than games, but the retail aspect has similarities). If you produce (game or wine), you sell to (distributor for wholesale cost), who then has sole possession of the (game or wine). The distributor then sells to the retailer, for whatever markup they choose, whether it be full retail, or a big rebait. That's basic sales.
If a distributor and retailer sell to each other for a penny over cost, that's their decision. Not a profitable one for sure, but sometimes they do that because product isn't moving (such as a game that bombs.......I won't necessarily say EotN is........but.......), or because they want to promote themselves or the product.
I've worked in the retail industry (I made wine, which is entirely different than games, but the retail aspect has similarities). If you produce (game or wine), you sell to (distributor for wholesale cost), who then has sole possession of the (game or wine). The distributor then sells to the retailer, for whatever markup they choose, whether it be full retail, or a big rebait. That's basic sales.
If a distributor and retailer sell to each other for a penny over cost, that's their decision. Not a profitable one for sure, but sometimes they do that because product isn't moving (such as a game that bombs.......I won't necessarily say EotN is........but.......), or because they want to promote themselves or the product.
Pandora's box
Those who buy fast always pay the highest prices. It's a known fact and everybody decides for himself wether to buy a game as soon as it's out or to wait. No reason for complaints.
I'm happily willing to reconsider purchasing Eye of the North if the price drops to 25$. And I expect that to happen within a year.
I'm happily willing to reconsider purchasing Eye of the North if the price drops to 25$. And I expect that to happen within a year.
Darkobra
I can't even check how much it is in GAME here. Mainly because they took down half the games for as much of a Halo 3 promotion as possible. Eye of the North got a shelf, some other games got a shelf and even some on display behind them. Halo 3 ends up with consoles, models, posters, a WALL taken down and Halo 3 merchandise put all over it... I mean, come on. I want to game shop for a variety.
And God forbid you even LOOK at the wall, else you'll get two sales reps SHOULDER RAMMING each other to get to you. (As funny as that was.)
But basing it on assumption, I'm thinking it will still be £25 here.
And God forbid you even LOOK at the wall, else you'll get two sales reps SHOULDER RAMMING each other to get to you. (As funny as that was.)
But basing it on assumption, I'm thinking it will still be £25 here.
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All I stated was that I'm kinda bummed to the fact that NF HAS NEVER HAD A PRICE DROP, factions is still $40, and prophecies is still $30... so why did Anet give the go to sell GW:EN for $10 less within a month of it dropping! It's crazy IMO.
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Nightfall, Factions and Prophecies all had price drops approximately 1-2 months after their release. As I stated above, I purchased each of these for less than $30 (my best was Factions, which I got for $19.99).
You simply have to pay attention to the Sunday paper and jump on it when the price hits bottom.
lyra_song
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wow am I actually going to defend anet? I believe so.
I've worked in the retail industry (I made wine, which is entirely different than games, but the retail aspect has similarities). If you produce (game or wine), you sell to (distributor for wholesale cost), who then has sole possession of the (game or wine). The distributor then sells to the retailer, for whatever markup they choose, whether it be full retail, or a big rebait. That's basic sales. If a distributor and retailer sell to each other for a penny over cost, that's their decision. Not a profitable one for sure, but sometimes they do that because product isn't moving (such as a game that bombs.......I won't necessarily say EotN is........but.......), or because they want to promote themselves or the product. |
Selling a brand new game for $10 off from ANY other retailer during a sales event is a very aggressive tactic. Hasbrostore had a 25% off any purchase over $50 with free shipping. Free shipping is basically $10 off already!
You guys act like youve never seen anything on sale before....geeze.
Smile Like Umean It
It's common knowledge that product prices drop, whether it be permanent or for a temp sale, after it has been out for some time. If you want the product right after it comes out then you're paying full price for it. End of. In exchange for paying full price you get access as soon as you want it. Didn't think it was worth it? Well, that's your problem, you took the gamble. And you will continue to take it every time you buy something.
Quoted for a little common sense.
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Don't forget special events like Holiday sales, Spring specials, Summer specials, Fall specials, Thanksgiving, Christmas, After-Christmas, Valentines, etc.
Selling a brand new game for $10 off from ANY other retailer during a sales event is a very aggressive tactic. Hasbrostore had a 25% off any purchase over $50 with free shipping. Free shipping is basically $10 off already! You guys act like youve never seen anything on sale before....geeze. |
Martin Firestorm
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Apple offered $100 to anyone thats ever bought the iPhone, and $200 to everyone that bought it within like 2 weeks of the price drop.
All I stated was that I'm kinda bummed to the fact that NF HAS NEVER HAD A PRICE DROP, factions is still $40, and prophecies is still $30... so why did Anet give the go to sell GW:EN for $10 less within a month of it dropping! It's crazy IMO. |
Aera Lure
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Because its not selling well. That's also one of many reasons I wouldn't hold my breath on any sort of rebate. This is their only product this year, and its not selling well. They're not giving back any of the disappointing revenue it has generated.
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IlikeGW
I think it sold pretty weakly too... but then it's a 40 dollar expansion that's more worth $15. By Christmas it will probably be $19.99 as standard.