Mini Mania Time!

I was wondering that too, but i looked and it's 1 per household. Multiple household entries will result in disqualifications. I didn't bother risking it for my other accounts.

Subscriptions don't cover special issues.

companies cant please everyone all the time, so stop QQ-ing and be happy that anet/ncsoft decided to have a promotion in the first place.

I take this to mean that one entry per account owned is eligible. Multiple entries on a single account is grounds for disqualification.


I take this to mean that once somebody has won at your household, all remaining entries from your household address are no longer in contention for additional prizes from this contest.

For example: I have 5 accounts in my household. 3 are mine, and 2 are my girlfriend's. All are eligible to enter once, for a total of 5 entries. If my girlfriend is really lucky, and wins....All other entries are now null and void for the duration of the contest.

If you're having a hard time finding the form (like me), here it is...

https://secure.guildwars.com/minimadness/default.php

You had a hard time finding the form? So the big banner on the page linked to in the Original post was too hard to spot?

Well looks like a step in the right direction, now if they could only make it a worldwide action with more minis to go out or something along those lines.

but somehow anet cannot escape their trend of dissapointments (for me at least)

Cmon vizu, come to daddy! But seriously, how many north american players are there? There will probable be well in excess of 500 000 contest entries, with only 375 minis to be given out. 15 of which will be Vizu's. So statistically, you have a .00075 chance of winning a Mini, and a .00003 chance of getting a Vizu. Not exactly championship odds...

As for Quebec... Lets just say it made me want to hug the Ontario Road map

LOL

Actually, they do GIVEAWAYS and FREE THINGS to please the whining masses.

Theory: To stop the whining, maybe they should stop giving away free stuff.

Yeah, I'm all for that! Maybe a bit of peace and quiet around here!

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Oh wait, the whining masses will whine they're not getting their free stuff. *facepalm*

Bottom Line: Learn about international competition law before passing baseless judgment with no factual back up! Google and Wikipedia are your friends!

Lame excuse! These laws can be accomodated in competitions with a bit of effort from Anet. Anet wanted a global game so they should put in the effort to treat everyone equal or not bother at all!

Quebec lawmakers are geniuses. They must be, they managed to put a stop to this kind of 'giveaway' nonsense. If only the rest of the world was this enlightened, farcical crap like this would be stomped out, angels would descend and shower us with rosepetals.

There's always a comeback on the internet, isn't there?

Who's to say that Anet haven't tried to accomodate. OH WAIT...

I offer an extensive selection of Appliances (skipping ropes, pogo sticks) for all of you who like to Jump to Conclusions without Factual Evidence or quotes to back you up.

Oh, and for those of you ready to jump in with "But why DON'T they have the money for legal issues?!1", let me remind you of their ethical mantra for this game - NO MONTHLY FEE.

Well really your first post was a reaction to the rest of this thread so you are just as much to blame...

...and as for the money issue to get by international laws. You are telling me that anet spent hundreds of thousands to get "halloween", "design-a-weapon" etc contests international...I wouldnt of thought so...otherwise we would be paying monthly fees.

Its good to see that some people fall for their marketing fluff. It would make anet feel like their little faqs excuse them of not properly supporting their community.

At least I take the time to research what I'm talking about. It's like banging your head against a brick wall around here. I believe stupidity should not be allowed to flourish and be encouraged.


Right. So, what benefit do they have in lying to their consumer base?

It seems like gamers are hell bent on driving to insanity and into insolvency the companies they supposedly support, just because they feel they have the power to do so. And have a condescending little smirk all the time.

Originally Posted by Gaile
In answer to the often-asked questions about "Why isn't this contest available in my (state, region, country)?" the answer is that unfortunately, many countries, even entire continents, are unable to participate in some or all of the Guild Wars contests and promotions because of local and regional laws, and that is contributed to by the fact that we do not have the opportunity for a legal review in every country in which we'd like to offer such a contest or promotion. Looking into the opportunity of truly offering a global opportunity, for anyone, anywhere, the costs would exceed one hundred thousand dollars simply to obtain the legal reviews, and even were we able and willing to pay that cost, there would still be many countries in which the promotion or contest was illegal.
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...5&postcount=31


This of course may well be true.
However
There have been previous gw pet magazine promotions in the uk
The Grey giant was in every issue as was the asura so there do not seem to be legal problems in the uk.

Now any promotion presumably sets out to showcase a product or service in a good light and encourage people to pay money and buy more of the same.
If so where did the ideas of the disparate offers come from, because even on paper they sounds dubious.

The current pet offers
The announcement that USA players were getting a new pet destroyer in a magazine was great news for us all, because we assumed that the rest of the world would follow.
Then came the let down that this wasn't the case.

Then came the announcement that there would be 2 different offers in the uk, spirits rose again.
But the chances of getting a pet are low spirits drop, cries of disbelief, why on earth would any company do something so blatently unfair.

Then comes the secondary offer to USA they will get an admitidly low chance of getting a pet but they just log onto a website to enter, not buy a magazine so 100% of the pets will be used ie sent to gw players.

Now Europeans are getting very annoyed "my assumption" post in your thousands if it aint so.

Assuming every customer you give a pet to is pleased and likely to continue buying your products and every customer who doesnt but sees others getting them will be displeased.

What was the point of the excercise ?
We now are mad at the company that makes GW when a few weeks ago we were basking in the delight of a new game.
Mad at the magazine publishers who have "probably" lost circulation accross Europe.

Not to mention that a greater proportion of your customer base came out of it angry, than were pleased.

My question is
Was this promotion all arranged by your competitors, certainly it will be used by them as an example of how not to do things and a reason to play there games, so it might as well have.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news...-frontline.php

Change "WoW" for "GW", "Patches" for "Minipets" (or skill balances, or just about anything in this game)...and well... the rest is up to you.

Totally out of context, you cannot compare a patch release to competitions.

Nobody here is complaining about the game or quality of the game. We all know anet have produced a great game that runs a treat, and yes I will keep playing...technically its all fine.

But as for the "extras" or "cream", anet has a choice, and I personally (and many others) believe that the choices that they make upset more people than is necessary..simply because the choices they make are unfair...nothing really to do with international laws. If they wanted to be fair they would simply say "as we cannot be fair about it, we wont do it to start with" or give everybody the same chance in game. Simple.

Nerd Rage Rule Number 12: When you don't have anything constructive to argue, say it "doesn't compare" without actual justification.

Real World Says: When it comes to Customer Service, it compares to all other customer service.


I personally (and many others) believe that the choices that they make upset more people than is necessary[/quote]

Nerd Rage Rule Number 23: It's only factual when it's within the realm of your beliefs. Actual fact or gamer behavious doesn't exist because if it's not seen to happen on a forum, it doesn't matter.

Real World Says: There's a lot more that goes on in the real world, and the game, that you don't know about or see.

Nerd Rage Rule Number One: Because it's UNFAIR! If *I* don't get it, no one else should!

Real World Says: Life is unfair. Live with it.

Nerd Rage Rule number 15: Everything is SIMPLE when I apply MY laws to it. If I say it, it HAS to be.

Real Word Says: Things aren't black and white. Live with it.

Nerd Rage Rule Number 34: When all else fails, attack and Burn.

Real World Says: You wouldn't get away with being this smug face to face, so it doesn't work on me here pal.

Yes mum...I don't know if you are trying to convince yourself or me???

But obviously you'll have a comeback for any post that you feel is "UNFAIR" to anet..live with it, life is unfair..in your words.

But real world is..people dont take kindly to unfairness or inequity..it doesnt mean it is right or mean we sit back and take it up the proverbial..sometimes its nice to let them know that improvement would be appreciated...

..now over to you for a nerd bashing response I guess serenity..but you wont get any more bites from me as Ive had my say, and this could go back and forth forever...

Now why did you have to go announce it on the forums?

Now we have competition.

1. This is in response to the EU magazine giveaway...and the asian promotions...it is North America's chance at the rare minis...bout friggin time. Halloween is a separate promo designed to get creative Halloween stuff...the minis are just the rewards to get people interested.

2. It is a giveaway...requiring no skill at all...there is no judging...it is simply a lottery...around the world there are many laws about lotteries/raffles. Some places outright forbid it...some places have too many requirements to make it worth the effort.

3. Halloween, Brand the Bosses, Design a Weapon were and are all competitions...requiring some form of skill...and the results are determined by judges...I can't say for sure but I'm betting there's a lot fewer rules regarding that around the world...thus the reason it can be done in more countries.

I'll be happy if I get a mini...I don't care which one...because unlike most of the people it'll be going into my collection.

Do you people honestly believe that Anet would intentionally piss off their customer base by intentionally favoring one region over another? Which is more likely...that or they are simply trying to do the best they can to offer a similar chance at the rare minis? But because of regional differences in laws they are having to do it piecemeal as they can arrange the promos.

People who try to say Anet is out to get them need to grow the hell up...seriously...get a frickin life...it's a game...these are virtual objects that have no real impact on your life (other than raising your blood pressure unnecessarily).

i've pointed out before that these giveaways don't *have* to involve magazines.the mechanism is there to distribute presents in game, i believe. this should circumvent any regional laws there are. shouldn't really cost a lot as well.

tying up with magazines however may provide it with promotion of the GW franchise in those mags. the point is, maybe they could think up of some other ways to distribute these items in future that will limit complaints of unfairness.

But all they had to do was tell us and then maybe all the energy put into complaining would be put into ways around it.

It would have been nice for there to have been some kind of statement on the game webpage about this.

No one in the UK is going to believe it's a local law that prevented it since 2 previous magazines gave away minis.

Suggestion

If they made the pet givaways in each country different in content but the same as to chance of getting the pet, you would see a fairly decent trade going on by players.

By all means give the USA a destroyer, then give each other country or group of countries some other pet and watch us trade away happily.

Especially as I have already suggested the codes should all activate on the same date.

While i find it mildly annoying that the minipet is a lottery, Ican live with that, most competitions are in one form or another, you simply have to do something and then hope your entery wins, whethers its designing a picture, name, or simply sending your details in.

I may also find the magazine giveaways annoying when they are restricted to certain regions, but at least you have the abilty to purchase them online. Thats how i got my wife and I destroyer pets.

What really hacks me off is when you have to pay to get a lottery chance, and that chance is a ticket in a mag, which is expensive, and the prizes will more than likely nevr get to a GW player. On top of this is when they announce the American equivalent is a simply enter online, dont pay a fortune for it.

Regional law may apply in some case but the fact here from the guildwars.com site in previous online competitions shows that these online comps are available to a widespread section of the community.

I don't need to look up various sites to find suspect laws on them, all i need to do is look on the GW site as see where these competitions have been run.

Obviously promotions are different, as they will come under a different set of rules, and while we know the mag giveaways, Asura and Gray giant were avialble in a lot of places and these are limited supply, the Grawl need not have been and at least they could have been in every mag that didnt have the rare ones. that way everyone in Europe would have been happy and got at least a mini.

If regulations prevent this type of offer in Australia and NZ then they shoudl get an online entry like America and Canada. And since we get birthday presents in the game, why cant those poor Quebec folk and other areas excluded even from that get them ingame as a surprise?

There should be ways around this, and it shouldn't need to involve piles of cash to circumvent regional laws. Though it may invovle a bit of time coding the game to do it.

I live in the UK and just got a destroyer minipet looks really good too.

Didnt post that to brag "well just a little maybe" but to inform interested parties how they might get one.

A friend at University in Liverpool phones me says the American GW magazine is in the Uni Bookshop for £7-95 it has the codes and they are sealed "codes that is not magazine".
Do I want one, yep, Bit later I get the code and now have the pet.

I am guessing that because the university has Students from USA they get American magazines and newspapers.

If you have live in or near a university town maybe you can do the same.

anyway thought I would pass it on

btw the pet is pretty good, like the size of it too nice big pets are good.

Best ever...wonder if they take trades....

The lottery seems like a pretty cool idea, in my opinion.

The European mini-pet "Golden Ticket" give away is the problem. I'd love to enter the lottery, but I'm not paying for an £8 magazine so that I might have the chance of getting a mini-pet. And what about all the subscribers and guys who regularly buy the magazine that don't even play Guild Wars? What a waste. I don't usually complain about things around here, but that was a seriously retarded idea.

You don't buy a magazine to get a minipet. You buy the magizine to GET THE MAGAZINE. The mini is just a random reward thing. Its like buying a mountain dew to get the 1 and 8 chance to get a free mountain dew bottle cap. The mini for random people is a nice bonus. Its not why you are supposed to buy it.

If that's true, why do they even bring up the fact that these magazines carry minipet opportunities on guildwars.com? Readers will find out when they get their magazines.

Of course people are going to buy the magazines just for the pets. And a good thing too, thanks to them there's a good chance that more than a handful out of the 1000 codes will actually make it into the game at all.

PC mags stopped being just about the mag when they started tacking discs on and the prices rose to 2 or 3 times what they used to be. Who pays £7 for something to read on the loo?

The best way to have handle the magazine "lotto" was to make it so every mag got a unique mini with a chance to get one of the rare minis. This way it is not a lottery it is a guarantee to at least get a new mini.
It is kinda like the birthday minis, some got a devourer worth 3k and some got a bone dragon worth 100k + xx ectos, not exactly fair but everyone got something.

I agree totally Magazines used to worth buying but not for some years at least not for me.
So much of their content is online why bother, well for the pet code maybe.

i stopped buying computer mags over 10 years ago the only reason i buy one now is to get somethign for GW. I simply dont have the money or time to be playign every game out there that may interest me, and thats because they take so long to play now.

Computer magazines dont seem to be aimed at my age group, they don;t read well, and really don't interest me in the slightest.

promotions liek this are purely cynical drives on the part of marketing departments. It boost the mag sales and promotes the game. And happily coincides witht he review of the game in the mag

I may be dumb enough to buy the mag, but i'm not dumb enough to believe that this offer is anythign other than that

I use rez!

End of october did anyone win or did A-net forgot about this contest?

I'm inclined to believe tons of people won. There's been a noticeable influx of mini yeti's, naga raincallers, vizu's, oni's and grawls for sale in high end.

that's partly the benelux magazine competetion, prizes were handed out near the start of this month

dunno if that would acount for all tough

No they didn't. It was stated on the site that winners would be announced the 10th of the next month so...

October's announced Nov. 10th
November's on Dec. 10th
etc
etc

I won a mini yeti and sold it. Some mini's I like some I don't...however I was quite happy with it cause selling it helped me a great deal on my way to getting FoW armour

Wait how did you win it if the winners weren't announced yet?

Indeed, this does require an explanation. Did you win the Yeti for Mini Mania, Halloween, Brand the Bosses or what? Could have come from any of those promotions, if I remember right.