with /Rt could Weapon of Aggression be a possible replacement?
non removable, 25% IAS, 10 energy but doesn't reapply
vs
non removable, 25% IAS, 25 energy and reapplies, cracked armor
yes it won't be as good as something that constantly reapplies but you won't have to worry about a free cover condition for your enemies or idiot h/h monks draining their energy removing cracked armor every 5 seconds..
Aggressive Refrain now a terrible skill?
MBP
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
In a full H/H situation I'm not sure why anyone would waste a hero spot on a monk.
4 man areas? If you aren't running a N/Rt, that is... 
... I win! I win! xD
... I win! I win! xD
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
4 man areas? If you aren't running a N/Rt, that is...
... I win! I win! xD Damn! Foiled!
... I win! I win! xD Damn! Foiled!
bungusmaximus
How do you people like [wiki]Soldier's Fury[/wiki]? I was having good results with that one.
Kobe#2
Soldier's Fury is awesome. You just have to make sure your getting a boosted adrenaline source from somewhere else though instead of Focused Anger.
bungusmaximus
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Originally Posted by Kobe#2
Soldier's Fury is awesome. You just have to make sure your getting a boosted adrenaline source from somewhere else though instead of Focused Anger.
I don't even use much adrenaline skills, theyre usually just a DPS machine with a lot of supportive skills when I run them on my heroes.
Thom Bangalter
if you give two shits about cracked armor, there's a problem. It's a never-ending IAS with a small drawback.
Lourens
1st [skill]soldier's fury[/skill][skill]"for great justice!"[/skill] vs 2nd [skill]focused anger[/skill][skill]aggressive refrain[/skill] 
1st wins
ye [skill]aggressive refrain[/skill] is a terrible skill >P
1st wins
ye [skill]aggressive refrain[/skill] is a terrible skill >P
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Lourens
1st [skill]soldier's fury[/skill][skill]"for great justice!"[/skill]
What do you do during the 25 seconds it's down?
Horseman Of War
judging from the comments, this seems like a pve discussion...
personally I find the skill to be a joke now. focused anger is more of a brainless hench skill, and soldiers fury is almost a waste of an elite.
actually since gw:en came out, I have stopped using aggressive refrain... the IAS isnt as necessary as youd think.... since a dps paragon is really the biggest waste build with the profession anyways
if you need more adrenaline, just take spear of fury (again, seems like a pve discussion... in pvp i say forget the skill entirely)
personally I find the skill to be a joke now. focused anger is more of a brainless hench skill, and soldiers fury is almost a waste of an elite.
actually since gw:en came out, I have stopped using aggressive refrain... the IAS isnt as necessary as youd think.... since a dps paragon is really the biggest waste build with the profession anyways
if you need more adrenaline, just take spear of fury (again, seems like a pve discussion... in pvp i say forget the skill entirely)
bungusmaximus
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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
actually since gw:en came out, I have stopped using aggressive refrain... the IAS isnt as necessary as youd think.... since a dps paragon is really the biggest waste build with the profession anyways
tbh I don't find the rest of the paragon elites all that hot, apart from Defensive Anthem that is, but that's why I already run aegis. Besides, ias DOES matter when you like to run [wiki]splinter weapon[/wiki] on a support rit.
Bobby2
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
What do you do during the 25 seconds it's down?
[skill]Enduring Harmony[/skill], plus the fact that FGJ needn't be the only Shout in your bar.
Tarzanboy
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Originally Posted by Bobby2
Are you having someone pack Dark Fury?
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Originally Posted by Horseman of War
if you need more adrenaline, just take spear of fury (again, seems like a pve discussion... in pvp i say forget the skill entirely)
Spear of Fury is nice, if you are not using SY!, but if you are, you need to look for another solution.
Cheers, TB
Racthoh
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Originally Posted by Bobby2
[skill]Enduring Harmony[/skill], plus the fact that FGJ needn't be the only Shout in your bar.
Okay so now you're using two skills just to meet the requirement of your IAS when Aggressive Refrain is working all of the time; it just needs shouts to refresh itself (which you will be packing anyway).
Omniclasm
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Originally Posted by Tarzanboy
Spear of Fury is nice, if you are not using SY!, but if you are, you need to look for another solution.
Cheers, TB Why? 123456789101112
Bobby2
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
Okay so now you're using two skills just to meet the requirement of your IAS when Aggressive Refrain is working all of the time; it just needs shouts to refresh itself (which you will be packing anyway).
That is besides the point. He wanted a long-lasting Adren boost, hence my suggestion. Please do mind the context.
Lourens
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Originally Posted by Racthoh
What do you do during the 25 seconds it's down?
You also need to wait 15 seconds for focused anger and for great justice is not an elite
Oblivious Moose
[card]focused anger[/card][card]"for great justice!"[/card]... use 1 when other is recharging, youll never have downtime of adrenaline boost.
as for ias, theres plenty of skills that can be used.. but with the extra adrenaline boost, i find the ias useless as im gaining 100%+ adrenaline 100% of te time...
Magikarp
para is one of my fav classes, but the nerf isnt that big of a deal, the only thing that really bothers me is when im in pvp and the monk uses dismiss and keeps removing cracked instead of blind
phan
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
-A constant 25% IAS #1-No real set back like Warrior IASs -Not a stance Speargons in general are still overpowered: -Have a constant IAS (see above) - Have access to lots of conditions - don't have to go up close like warriors or assassins #2 -have nearly the same range as bows, but do more damage. Paragon's in general are broken: - built around using skills that cannot be remove, nor are there many viable counters to. - Have the damage of a warrior, but range of a ranger (see above) - Too much passive defence (defencive Anthem) #3 Sorry to sound harsh, but saying AR is shit proves that people just complain over rather tiny things. #1 25% you can manage that with 12 leadership constantly ? warrior can get 33% [ with boa ; frenzy ; tiger: ( the best ) ] with only 5 energy : 20secs ? 10secs ? and they are stances Its not a stance ok .. but imagine ;; how bad your build would be if you would like invest 12 in leadership and 10 in a stance attribute .. lmoa .. #2 Warriors get 100armor vs phys .. assasins lack armor because they are cooler .. [ THIS IS A FACT] #3 Aegis / guardian / SOH > defensive anthem #4 I LOVE MY PARAGON ^^ x kaldak
the loss of armor is really not so bad...but the ai monks freak out at your constant cracked armor and waste energy on it...which is really rather unfair, especially since having several shouts/chants going around the party makes this even worse.
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by phan
#3 Aegis / guardian / SOH > defensive anthem
Actually, DA is better than them for one simple reason, when you use it, you don't have the risk of giving the mesmer 90+ Spike assistant damage, In a GvG context, this matters.
Kale Ironfist
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#1 25% you can manage that with 12 leadership constantly ? | warrior can get 33% [ with boa ; frenzy ; tiger: ( the best ) ] with only 5 energy : 20secs ? 10secs ? and they are stances By constantly maintaining ARefrain, your Paragon is gaining energy, so why wouldn't you be able to maintain it at even 10 Leadership? |
