4 Horse Men quest in UW
OS T
do anyone have a good strategi for the 4 horse man,me and my team have this team setup which seams very solid,but im very curious how it will work in the horse quest: dual monks,1ss,2eles,1bipper,1ranger,1healer with traps.And I noticed after the first time they spawn from both sides,so whats the best approach,dual monks on 1 side and terratanker on the other side, the healer have sb and arcane echo and healing skills.
Koning
When we completed the quest (was before the update in UW, also before the nerf on seed of life) we used 2 vow of silence dervishes. We also had a heal hybrid with expel hexes + a zb monk (me). other monk left i believe, but that wasn't a big deal with seed of life.
The build for dervishes was the same as the 1 for solo bone pits + spawning pools, meaning they could survive on their own when they have VoS on. But this time they also had bonds which made it even easier. (to everything except the aatxes, but prot spirit + spirit bond helps ya there). Seed of life helped alot back than. the dervishes got healed while vos was up.
The quest itself was very easy this way, complete spell immunity is nice here.
We plan to go again now with this update on UW, and probably grab them again. But I'm going as para this time, instead of the expel hexes bonder because SoL doesn't work very well anymore. Dunno what skills, maybe angelic bond will b good, or other defensive buffs.
Maybe I can even join you guys in GoE
The build for dervishes was the same as the 1 for solo bone pits + spawning pools, meaning they could survive on their own when they have VoS on. But this time they also had bonds which made it even easier. (to everything except the aatxes, but prot spirit + spirit bond helps ya there). Seed of life helped alot back than. the dervishes got healed while vos was up.
The quest itself was very easy this way, complete spell immunity is nice here.
We plan to go again now with this update on UW, and probably grab them again. But I'm going as para this time, instead of the expel hexes bonder because SoL doesn't work very well anymore. Dunno what skills, maybe angelic bond will b good, or other defensive buffs.
Maybe I can even join you guys in GoE
The Rift
Yeah sure m8, would be nice ^^!
RhanoctJocosa
I dislike this quest with a passion. I was trying to clear UW with just 3 heroes and I totally forgot about this quest. Waste of 3 hours, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
And yeah, SB is brilliant in uw.
And yeah, SB is brilliant in uw.
House Silvermoon
well if u guys are planning on clearing UW i'd like to come cause my group got owned on this quest too.
IGN Miki Silvermoon
IGN Miki Silvermoon
jimmyboveto
Quote:
Originally Posted by tyxa
do anyone have a good strategi for the 4 horse man,me and my team have this team setup which seams very solid,but im very curious how it will work in the horse quest: dual monks,1ss,2eles,1bipper,1ranger,1healer with traps.And I noticed after the first time they spawn from both sides,so whats the best approach,dual monks on 1 side and terratanker on the other side, the healer have sb and arcane echo and healing skills.
dual monks and a healer??? Did you mean triple monks?
Anyways, the only problem I see is the bipper. In non-elite pve(as this generally is), there isn't really any need for a bipper. Instead, it would be better for your team to take some time of melee character to deal some solid dps, such as a dervish, warrior, or sin.
Anyways, the only problem I see is the bipper. In non-elite pve(as this generally is), there isn't really any need for a bipper. Instead, it would be better for your team to take some time of melee character to deal some solid dps, such as a dervish, warrior, or sin.
Niila
Left Side:
Obsi tank with:
Obsidian Flesh
Aura of Restoration
Sliver Armour
Ward Against Melee
Mantra of Earth
Stone Striker
Stoneflesh Aura
Glyph of Swiftness
Very good tank build for whole underworld and will easily hold left side itself, and give enough time for rest of the team to kill mobs on right side. Glyph of Swiftness can be replaced with arcane echo, but then you may need support from sb monk (glyph of swiftness means infinite obsidian flesh while aura of restoration keeps your health high and stoneflesh aura negates damage + mantra of earth takes care of energy balance)
Right side:
Rest 7 of the team. Preferably trappers (smoke and spike trap), there's really nice thin spot which is ideal place for traps. After traps are triggered, searing flames and spiteful spirit kick in.
Done.
Obsi tank with:
Obsidian Flesh
Aura of Restoration
Sliver Armour
Ward Against Melee
Mantra of Earth
Stone Striker
Stoneflesh Aura
Glyph of Swiftness
Very good tank build for whole underworld and will easily hold left side itself, and give enough time for rest of the team to kill mobs on right side. Glyph of Swiftness can be replaced with arcane echo, but then you may need support from sb monk (glyph of swiftness means infinite obsidian flesh while aura of restoration keeps your health high and stoneflesh aura negates damage + mantra of earth takes care of energy balance)
Right side:
Rest 7 of the team. Preferably trappers (smoke and spike trap), there's really nice thin spot which is ideal place for traps. After traps are triggered, searing flames and spiteful spirit kick in.
Done.
Neriandal Freit
Haha, how funny Niila. It's funny because it's very, very true :P
Longasc
Just curious:
Did everyone use a build with a specialist like the obsidian elementalist or several trappers JUST for this quest?
Is it really "still" that hard? I was not down there for ages.
I personally love the idea of the Vow of Silence Dervishes, but we do not have many primary and most importantly solid/good dervish players in our alliance, and I think most players go there for the monument for their main, after all.
I personally would come with my necro if someone forms a team. My references are 18 titles and vanquishing most areas/hm missions with heroes and henchies only.
IGN: Sir Longasc / Lady Akivasha
(funny that my (previous) main char always had to add some silly title due to ANet's naming policy)
Did everyone use a build with a specialist like the obsidian elementalist or several trappers JUST for this quest?
Is it really "still" that hard? I was not down there for ages.
I personally love the idea of the Vow of Silence Dervishes, but we do not have many primary and most importantly solid/good dervish players in our alliance, and I think most players go there for the monument for their main, after all.
I personally would come with my necro if someone forms a team. My references are 18 titles and vanquishing most areas/hm missions with heroes and henchies only.
IGN: Sir Longasc / Lady Akivasha
(funny that my (previous) main char always had to add some silly title due to ANet's naming policy)
OS T
thanks for answers,gonna try uw for 4th time>-<,thanks for builds and that,gonna try the obi tanker^^
Koning
dedicating 1 charac just to do this quest is a waste of charac slot imo (obsidian tank). Except for standing there keeping his own enchants up and the incidental sliver armor isn't good. It's even very bad if aggro breaks (which can happen fairly quick), since you have your whole bar dedicated to the spell immunity and dmg reduction.
Vow of silence dervishes were nice because they could do good damage, while having complete spell immunity with the need of only 1 skillslot. So they weren't useless for other areas in the game, unlike the famous obsidian tank.
Vow of silence dervishes were nice because they could do good damage, while having complete spell immunity with the need of only 1 skillslot. So they weren't useless for other areas in the game, unlike the famous obsidian tank.
Niila
Hey mate, I vanquished all three continents using obsitank and I can say that it is the most solid tank build there is. In addition, it is very good tank for every area in uw (like I said before) and it is not dedicated just for this quest. There are two trappers, two searing flames eles, spiteful spirit necro and you say it still needs more damage, huh?
And no. Aggro does not break. How could it break when you are far away from everyone else and the mobs just try to kill you no matter what, they aren't running away.
And no. Aggro does not break. How could it break when you are far away from everyone else and the mobs just try to kill you no matter what, they aren't running away.
Free Wind
We recently did UW including that quest with this team:
Me as Tripple Chop/Cyclone Axe warrior
3 E/Mo Heroes - SF eles with Heal Party
2 Monks (HB and ZB prot)
2 Dom Mesmer Heroes (Hex Eater Vortex)
Just fought all 4 Horsemen and Terrorwebs near the reaper
Horsemen do not pose any threat on their own, we killed Dryders first and left horsemen for last
Was really hard but pretty much doable.
There is no place in GW where you need a 'tank', especially useless OF tanks. I say this 'cause I have vanguished every single zone in all three compaigns, have all but Urgoz statue in HoM (will get one when I have time for Urgoz), done all DoA, UW, FoW, HM Missions and Vanguishing with heroes 5-6 in my party
Attached screenshots, 2 hours 30 min full run
Me as Tripple Chop/Cyclone Axe warrior
3 E/Mo Heroes - SF eles with Heal Party
2 Monks (HB and ZB prot)
2 Dom Mesmer Heroes (Hex Eater Vortex)
Just fought all 4 Horsemen and Terrorwebs near the reaper
Horsemen do not pose any threat on their own, we killed Dryders first and left horsemen for last
Was really hard but pretty much doable.
There is no place in GW where you need a 'tank', especially useless OF tanks. I say this 'cause I have vanguished every single zone in all three compaigns, have all but Urgoz statue in HoM (will get one when I have time for Urgoz), done all DoA, UW, FoW, HM Missions and Vanguishing with heroes 5-6 in my party
Attached screenshots, 2 hours 30 min full run
Koning
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Originally Posted by Niila
Hey mate, I vanquished all three continents using obsitank and I can say that it is the most solid tank build there is. In addition, it is very good tank for every area in uw (like I said before) and it is not dedicated just for this quest. There are two trappers, two searing flames eles, spiteful spirit necro and you say it still needs more damage, huh?
And no. Aggro does not break. How could it break when you are far away from everyone else and the mobs just try to kill you no matter what, they aren't running away. I think you haven't tried mindblades yet.
And btw, dedicating 7/8 skills (or maybe 8/8 depends what you think of the ward) to yourself without and good damage is not very effective in a TEAMbuild.
And no. Aggro does not break. How could it break when you are far away from everyone else and the mobs just try to kill you no matter what, they aren't running away. I think you haven't tried mindblades yet.
And btw, dedicating 7/8 skills (or maybe 8/8 depends what you think of the ward) to yourself without and good damage is not very effective in a TEAMbuild.
joemanstar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niila
Left Side:
Obsi tank with:
Obsidian Flesh
Aura of Restoration
Sliver Armour
Ward Against Melee
Mantra of Earth
Stone Striker
Stoneflesh Aura
Glyph of Swiftness
Very good tank build for whole underworld and will easily hold left side itself, and give enough time for rest of the team to kill mobs on right side. Glyph of Swiftness can be replaced with arcane echo, but then you may need support from sb monk (glyph of swiftness means infinite obsidian flesh while aura of restoration keeps your health high and stoneflesh aura negates damage + mantra of earth takes care of energy balance)
Right side:
Rest 7 of the team. Preferably trappers (smoke and spike trap), there's really nice thin spot which is ideal place for traps. After traps are triggered, searing flames and spiteful spirit kick in.
Done. For an OFTank, how do you switch to "arcane echo" ? Or you want to go E/Me as "OFTank", without the 30 extra AL against ele dmg, will the tank survive?
If we're bringing Trappers, do we really need OFTank or just 2 monks?
Obsi tank with:
Obsidian Flesh
Aura of Restoration
Sliver Armour
Ward Against Melee
Mantra of Earth
Stone Striker
Stoneflesh Aura
Glyph of Swiftness
Very good tank build for whole underworld and will easily hold left side itself, and give enough time for rest of the team to kill mobs on right side. Glyph of Swiftness can be replaced with arcane echo, but then you may need support from sb monk (glyph of swiftness means infinite obsidian flesh while aura of restoration keeps your health high and stoneflesh aura negates damage + mantra of earth takes care of energy balance)
Right side:
Rest 7 of the team. Preferably trappers (smoke and spike trap), there's really nice thin spot which is ideal place for traps. After traps are triggered, searing flames and spiteful spirit kick in.
Done. For an OFTank, how do you switch to "arcane echo" ? Or you want to go E/Me as "OFTank", without the 30 extra AL against ele dmg, will the tank survive?
If we're bringing Trappers, do we really need OFTank or just 2 monks?
Longasc
Thanks to the people posting here we made it yesterday! 
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/?title=S... XtXsXyggXlXA
Vow of Silence Dervish. Too much healing, could have used some offensive capabilities. But he was able to keep 2 Riders and 6 Terrorwebs at bay and was a great help in the Ice Wastes and the Spawning Pools as well.
I think the build can be improved a lot, it could use some more utility or firepower, it is already capable to stand against the Terrorweb Hordes infinitely on its own.
1 Vow of Silence Dervish
1 SS/Mark of Pain Necro with Enfeebling Blood + Great Dwarf Weapon
1 BHA Ranger
2 Barrage Rangers with 2 interrupts, one bringing Splinter Weapon
1 Pyre Fierceshot, Standard Barrage/Pet
1 Ogden Stonehealer with Light of Deliverance and Prot Spirit
1 ignorant human monk that did never use Prot Spirit at all, but had LoD and Signet of Rejuvenation
Hint: Signet of Rejuvenation can heal a Dervish under Vow of Silence
Well of the Profane was total disappointment. I used it on dead pets to kill Smite Crawlers, but it was not much help. Somehow they did not lose enchantments or moved out or whatever.
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/?title=S... XtXsXyggXlXA
Vow of Silence Dervish. Too much healing, could have used some offensive capabilities. But he was able to keep 2 Riders and 6 Terrorwebs at bay and was a great help in the Ice Wastes and the Spawning Pools as well.
I think the build can be improved a lot, it could use some more utility or firepower, it is already capable to stand against the Terrorweb Hordes infinitely on its own.
1 Vow of Silence Dervish
1 SS/Mark of Pain Necro with Enfeebling Blood + Great Dwarf Weapon
1 BHA Ranger
2 Barrage Rangers with 2 interrupts, one bringing Splinter Weapon
1 Pyre Fierceshot, Standard Barrage/Pet
1 Ogden Stonehealer with Light of Deliverance and Prot Spirit
1 ignorant human monk that did never use Prot Spirit at all, but had LoD and Signet of Rejuvenation
Hint: Signet of Rejuvenation can heal a Dervish under Vow of Silence
Well of the Profane was total disappointment. I used it on dead pets to kill Smite Crawlers, but it was not much help. Somehow they did not lose enchantments or moved out or whatever.
Ghryphon
Heres our setup that we used to clear it a few nights ago....
1 Obs Tank
1 Bonder / Echo SB
1 LoD Heals
1 Heal/Prot Hybrid
1 SS Necro (hero)
2 SF Ele
1 Support Para
The obs tank took the heal/prot hybrid when the 4 horsemen came and he tanked it all while the rest of the group took the other side, killed them all then met back up and finsished off the quest.
Very easy...actually easier the unwanted guests
-Tiki
**Edit** oh I just saw you made it...haha oh well, maybe itll help someone some other day
1 Obs Tank
1 Bonder / Echo SB
1 LoD Heals
1 Heal/Prot Hybrid
1 SS Necro (hero)
2 SF Ele
1 Support Para
The obs tank took the heal/prot hybrid when the 4 horsemen came and he tanked it all while the rest of the group took the other side, killed them all then met back up and finsished off the quest.
Very easy...actually easier the unwanted guests
-Tiki
**Edit** oh I just saw you made it...haha oh well, maybe itll help someone some other day
VitisVinifera
there's more than one way to do this, meaning the 2 split teams, but the advice I have is this: do 4 horsemen first thing, so that if you do wipe, you won't have wasted hours before
it took me 3 tries to get it, each time with different teams, but basically the 2 split teams each had a monk capable of keeping 4 ppl alive (as in, no pure prot monk), 1 tank to hold aggro, and 2 casters to take the horsemen down
it took me 3 tries to get it, each time with different teams, but basically the 2 split teams each had a monk capable of keeping 4 ppl alive (as in, no pure prot monk), 1 tank to hold aggro, and 2 casters to take the horsemen down
Nemo the Capitalist
when we beat uw in the first place woulda been better for it to autoamtically display in hall of monuments
but gotta love the grind (not too hard)
but gotta love the grind (not too hard)
Lucifer PVP
Clear Uw again last night .. running 5 norn bears 2 healers and a smiter .. took like about an hour 40mins.
As for the quest we just send 5 on one side and 3 on the other. I just tanked one side till the 5 person group killed off their side. SB would be very helpful but we didn't use it.
As for the quest we just send 5 on one side and 3 on the other. I just tanked one side till the 5 person group killed off their side. SB would be very helpful but we didn't use it.
OS T
thanks for all ure respons guys....we did it in UB way..5 UB tankers and 2 healers and 1 sf nuker...
Corpselooter
GG Trylle. Now learn to spell.
OS T
hiya gustie...ty for that^^I think I spelled it correctly..point out what I spelled wrong then
IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by Lucifer PVP
Clear Uw again last night .. running 5 norn bears 2 healers and a smiter .. took like about an hour 40mins.
As for the quest we just send 5 on one side and 3 on the other. I just tanked one side till the 5 person group killed off their side. SB would be very helpful but we didn't use it. when tanking how was the split and were you still in ursan form
and for the healers were they real? or heros? and if so what builds?
I would really appriciate the healer builds being pinged or if they were heros what build they were useing. and for killing the horseman what order to kill ther groups since they come with spiders should we kill the spiders first than the horseman? plz give me a clue
What about bringing 5 ursan b and 2 healers and the Obby Ele for holding the 1 side while the other 5 ursans kill 1 side.
As for the quest we just send 5 on one side and 3 on the other. I just tanked one side till the 5 person group killed off their side. SB would be very helpful but we didn't use it. when tanking how was the split and were you still in ursan form
and for the healers were they real? or heros? and if so what builds?
I would really appriciate the healer builds being pinged or if they were heros what build they were useing. and for killing the horseman what order to kill ther groups since they come with spiders should we kill the spiders first than the horseman? plz give me a clue
What about bringing 5 ursan b and 2 healers and the Obby Ele for holding the 1 side while the other 5 ursans kill 1 side.
OS T
on the left side we had 2UB tankers..on right 3UB tankers...1healer dedicated to 1 side..1healer was running hb and healer was running lod I think and 1sf nuker which went back and forth and nuked,and no,no heroes,we barely made it,but we did it
IslandHermet
does anyone have the template codes for those monk builds and is it even a possabliity to do it with Hero monks, tried 3 times now and the monks keepgetting DC so no more of them for now Heros,
Our build set up
5 ursan real ppl
2 healers Heros most likley
Obby Ele tank
or
6 ursan ppl
2 healers Heros most likley
or
5 ursan ppl
3 healers heros.
most important thing is the Template codes for the Healers if anyone knows them for really good healin in the UW for this quest.
and if any monks that have good connections with there ISP and wants to come feel free to PM me.
Please give me some hints or something a few guildies and I are gonna try this again today after I get of work but failing 3 times due to DC of monks is a huge let down almost to the point if it happens again IM done with the UW for a while.
Our build set up
5 ursan real ppl
2 healers Heros most likley
Obby Ele tank
or
6 ursan ppl
2 healers Heros most likley
or
5 ursan ppl
3 healers heros.
most important thing is the Template codes for the Healers if anyone knows them for really good healin in the UW for this quest.
and if any monks that have good connections with there ISP and wants to come feel free to PM me.
Please give me some hints or something a few guildies and I are gonna try this again today after I get of work but failing 3 times due to DC of monks is a huge let down almost to the point if it happens again IM done with the UW for a while.
josarian
Use those N/Rt's with WoR.Work pretty nice everywhere i tried them.
Fried Tech
Thanks for the hints. My guild has been trying this for 3 days and the horsemen always get us.
Since our teams derv is convinced that enemies hate him (horrible at pulling and holding agro) ill run the obi tank...... same build i use when farming destroyer cores. WOOT!
Since our teams derv is convinced that enemies hate him (horrible at pulling and holding agro) ill run the obi tank...... same build i use when farming destroyer cores. WOOT!
IslandHermet
Thanks for advice I hope this goes over as planned. Its a good thing Fried Tech rocks at the obby tank.
Fried Tech
Thanks Hermit
RazorEdge
A obsi earth ele tank can hold one side as long as it takes, even wipes the dryders. If the other seven team-members can't clear the otherside then, it's either time to find a new team or uninstall gw. :P
[Perma Obsi Tank;OgVEMJOJz5I91GfVe4W1AQLcFA] alt; swap aftershock for air of superiority.
[Perma Obsi Tank;OgVEMJOJz5I91GfVe4W1AQLcFA] alt; swap aftershock for air of superiority.
Fried Tech
Oh it shouldnt be a problem. Obi tanking is easy. We couldnt get it because we tried a 4x4 split with hero healers and one dc ursan
Valeria
I really have to clear the whole UW once in a while now that there is a monument for it.
Good to hear it can be done in less than 3 hours, because i hate to play GW 10 hours in a row.
If you run around with bear form tanks on both sides can you place the healers in the middle at the reaper and tank at both sides, so the healers would just have to run a few steps in one direction to heal the other side?
just like the afk lightbringer farming back then
The question is if the reaper would still be safe with the tanks being close to him. I just hope he is not a primary target for the enemys
Good to hear it can be done in less than 3 hours, because i hate to play GW 10 hours in a row.
If you run around with bear form tanks on both sides can you place the healers in the middle at the reaper and tank at both sides, so the healers would just have to run a few steps in one direction to heal the other side?
just like the afk lightbringer farming back then
The question is if the reaper would still be safe with the tanks being close to him. I just hope he is not a primary target for the enemys
OS T
1 healer is dedicated to 1 side..and yes we use bear form when we tank,but the right side will aggro the reaper,if you dont hold agrro,we barely made it cuz I think 1 of the 3 ub tankers on the other side break agroo,rest of the uw was easy,and watch out for ice king quest..I suggest 1 ub tanker should stand in 1 of the ways that the dryders are gonna go and try to kill the ice king,in that way they will boll and die from ub skills.
lennymon
we did same as lucifer, but 2 trappers prepped left side, and one trapper held with 1 monk while everyone else cleared right.
Officer Dick
the reaper is not a primary target for them, they tend to attack the players first. My group did it by leaving an SB tahlkora and me as an ursan tank on one side and they cleaned the other, then came to help me as i was almost dying, but once the dryders are gone, ignore the bosses, they really do no dmg at all and take a while longer to kill, thats the trick, finish dryders fast and help the other site, leave someone holding the bosses as not to risk them killing th reaper... slow, but possible if no one pays attention...
vdz
we did it with 2 hero monks + without all the trapper/obs tank/vos crap...
dont see why you need them.... its not that hard at all....
We used :
2 warrios (not a tank build)
1 prot/heal monk (hero)
1 heal monk (hero)
1 Rt (dmg build)
1 mesmer
1 SV necro
1 water ele
dont see why you need them.... its not that hard at all....
We used :
2 warrios (not a tank build)
1 prot/heal monk (hero)
1 heal monk (hero)
1 Rt (dmg build)
1 mesmer
1 SV necro
1 water ele
nebuchanezzar
First check out underworld on wiki, it has a short run down of every quest. When I defeat this quest we split one monk and the tank to one side(doesn't matter which) and everyone else rushes the other side and shreds them asap. Then just run back to kill the other side and they never get close to the Reaper at all.
GL & HF
GL & HF
therangereminem
if you guys really want to clear it use bear from 6 people and then use a hb anmd sb monk/prot
clear un derworld in under 3 hours 4 hoursemen is easy
im in game i like to clear it again the guys i cleared it with wont be doing it again doing other things
ranger eminem
clear un derworld in under 3 hours 4 hoursemen is easy
im in game i like to clear it again the guys i cleared it with wont be doing it again doing other things
ranger eminem
ghostlyfenix
me and 2 other friend with heroes cleared uw but got party whiped when we just finish the 10 quests
anways 4 horse man
a real player monk[prot] with a real player tank[me] goes to the left side [left of the reaper]
and send the other people on the other side with the other monk and u just tank the left side till the right side finish killing theres, not that hard but bringing consumables like grails/essences/armors/cupcake/candyapples do help alot.
and definitely wont be clearing UW again in a long time.... time consuming and after we didnt recieve our reward
anways 4 horse man
a real player monk[prot] with a real player tank[me] goes to the left side [left of the reaper]
and send the other people on the other side with the other monk and u just tank the left side till the right side finish killing theres, not that hard but bringing consumables like grails/essences/armors/cupcake/candyapples do help alot.
and definitely wont be clearing UW again in a long time.... time consuming and after we didnt recieve our reward