Screenshots from the Bonus Mission Pack

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
How about differently than the whole game?
They didn't give you only Gwen in EOTN and said "play", eh? They also didn't force you to play as Rurik in Proph or Kormir in NF.
And thats a failure because its different?

Lets see what would be a failure in your logic then?

Beetleracing, Dragon Arena, Snowball Arena, Wurm driving, Devourer driving. All these instances take your character and replace your skills, weapons, powers, etc.


If the concept is NOT FUN. Then it will fail.


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I'm sure there is a reason, I'm wondering if it's good.
I outlined some pretty good reasons that i think very possible, but we will see.

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Um, no thanks, not being able to play with my character in CORPG is a massive failure and I don't need (and won't) to play to realize that.
RPG...role playing game. To play a role. Wether you play your character or someone else its still ROLE PLAYING. But do you really wanna get into a semantic argument?

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

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And thats a failure because its different?

If the concept is NOT FUN. Then it will fail.
So, GW 2 can be a FPP game as long as it's fun and won't be a failure? From GW-ish pack I expect GW-ish stuff, like for example, playing with my characters.

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I outlined some pretty good reasons that i think very possible, but we will see.
Yeah, I have one too, check this out.
Maybe it's because they are lazy?

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RPG...role playing game. To play a role. Wether you play your character or someone else its still ROLE PLAYING. But do you really wanna get into a semantic argument?
Oh please, by this definition Quake, Pong and GTA are role playing games too.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
And thats a failure because its different?

Lets see what would be a failure in your logic then?

Beetleracing, Dragon Arena, Snowball Arena, Wurm driving, Devourer driving. All these instances take your character and replace your skills, weapons, powers, etc.


If the concept is NOT FUN. Then it will fail.
This concept is no longer fun, as you spend a lot less time being your character and being something else.

Arenas were pretty cool because they added new content to pvp - which kinda always could use new content that is ballanced and fun. They also did not stay for long, so they never got old.

Polymock has shown bad side of it as it can frustrate you without it being your fault and there is little you can do about it. Just like wurms, lots of people hate desolation because of wurms. There was some about of bitching about devourer riding.

Basically, such custom skillbars in PvE = Fail, in PvP = Win.

There is no fun when you are given win button, just like there is no fun when you can click only on loose button.

I can imagine people being anoyed like hell when they discover that gwen story makes strong use of interupts when their /mine/ connection does not allow such thing.

Aditionally, some people might just hate playing warrior /and you don't have to be snob mesmer to hate playing some class/ which would have little fun being turrai.

Karyuu

Karyuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Kahlifownia

Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]

W/Rt

I don't get it. It's a bonus. Don't like it, don't play it

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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I like the idea of making people play as those characters. Maybe people will realize Mesmers are actaully pretty good and fun to play when they use Gwen. Or learn about using Rts because of Togo.

It will force people to play "outside their box."

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

I am still waiting to see what Saul D'Alessio looks like. Especially knowing he is probably going to “kick the bucket” by the end of the mission.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

I'm really excited about these, i think flashbacks and stuff like that are the coolest thing ever.

I need to play the Gwen mission first

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
It will force people to play "outside their box."
Which, in turn, explains all the bitching.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

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Originally Posted by Vinraith
Which, in turn, explains all the bitching.
I just like it when people complain about lack of any originality or imagination but when someone does something different, they get grilled.

thats just beautiful.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Or people who don't know the difference between 'original and innovative' and 'different and step backwards'.
Let's make GW2 turn-based strategy. Nobody could complain about it not being original.

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

BlackSephir, give it up

Its a bonus, don't play it then if it offends you so much

Im with lyra and the others on this - Playing as the others is a good thing,

ZOMG i cant SF everythingz

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Originally Posted by Whine
Or people who don't know the difference between 'original and innovative' and 'different and step backwards'
aren't those things relative? what you think is a step backwards may be innovative to others

I enjoy the change, i enjoy polymock, boxing...things that take some degree of skill...(well polymock....)

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Any who, i can wait to play as young togo...how creepy would it be if he still has his old man voice...

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

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BlackSephir, give it up

Its a bonus, don't play it then if it offends you so much
Excuse me for expressing my opinion on a internet board and disagreeing with you. How dare I! Just because it's a bonus I have to like it?

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Im with lyra and the others on this - Playing as the others is a good thing,
No, it's not.

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ZOMG i cant SF everythingz
Pretty hard to SF everything if you're playing with A, N and D, y'know?

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aren't those things relative? what you think is a step backwards may be innovative to others
Rotfl -,- This isn't a matter of opinion. Playing as a pre-defined character in any kind of rpg is big step backwards.

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

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Excuse me for expressing my opinion on a internet board and disagreeing with you.
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This isn't a matter of opinion. Playing as a pre-defined character in any kind of rpg is big step backwards
ill let you fill in the blanks

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

I'll let you think to what was I refering when I said it's not a matter of opinion.

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oh ill give up, Go back under your bridge Sephir - And let the people who want to enjoy the game , enjoy it
Pretty clever, and so childish. "Ok, I give up but you suck, end of discussion".
Get the hell out of here little troll. And learn to read.

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

oh ill give up, Go back under your bridge Sephir - And let the people who want to enjoy the game , enjoy it

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Come on you two, drop it..

Dante the Warlord

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/R

Im looking forward to this :-). Also i think i read that if you activate any product worth 29 dollars, you can get it... regardless if it was purchased at the online store

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Or people who don't know the difference between 'original and innovative' and 'different and step backwards'.
Let's make GW2 turn-based strategy. Nobody could complain about it not being original.
You wanna get into a fruitless sematic argument?

If GW2 was turn based, but implemented in a fun cohesive design, then whats your point?

You could say that time travel in guild wars was one step, and reliving as another character is simply the next step in that type of gameplay.

I think you need to think with a less static mindset, you seem to have pre-defined lines as to what this game can and cannot be, and anything outside the borders of your lines are instantly bad.

I certainly hope you dont approach life and people with that current mindset.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Well since nobody is talking about the screenshot...which as far as I know is supposed to be the topic of this thread...I don't know...maybe because the first post is about the screenshots....

This thread has just turned into a flame war with nothing to do with the screenshots presented, way too many posts here to delete.