DO ppl still PUG?
Wretchman Drake
Just curious, I've been playing WoW since summer and haven't seriously played GW since. Heroes killed it all for me. It may seem different for all, but to me GW has become a Single Player RPG with chat rooms where you can run around (outposts). Thx Anet for supporting an Anti Social and Elitist community (zomg u forget dis skill, u suxorz, *kick)
YunSooJin
short answer: yes
long answer: no
long answer: no
Aera Lure
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short answer: yes
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Ghengis Kwell
I PUG only on farming SS/LB title , other than that heroes or guildies.
Yang Whirlwind
Are you trying to convince us all to go play another game (say: WoW f.ex.)?
The game is what you make of it - join a good guild and go with them.
I for one do not miss the "old days" where you waited 20-30 min. for the 2.nd monk to complete your party.
Now its: me, 1-3 friends/guildies-heroes-go! (5 min tops)
Thank you Anet for not forcing me to play with people with attitude problems, short attention spans and no patience! (unless I actually feel like doing so!)
The game is what you make of it - join a good guild and go with them.
I for one do not miss the "old days" where you waited 20-30 min. for the 2.nd monk to complete your party.
Now its: me, 1-3 friends/guildies-heroes-go! (5 min tops)
Thank you Anet for not forcing me to play with people with attitude problems, short attention spans and no patience! (unless I actually feel like doing so!)
elektra_lucia
yes
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Kyp Jade
People dont pug so much in pve, but when you do some pvp like Heroes Ascent you see pleanty of pugs.
Witchblade
no PUG, fl or henchies only
Milennin
I do, but only when I'm bored.=P
Oh yeah, and when I was doing Slaver's Exile.XD
Oh yeah, and when I was doing Slaver's Exile.XD
Dralspire
Personally, I don't.
Nemo the Capitalist
i love pugs gotta miss those days despite how bad a warrior with bane sig and shielding hands was. PUG TANK < TALON Silverwing
Malice Black
I don't, but then I rarely do anything even when I do log in.
Wretchman Drake
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no PUG, fl or henchies only
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PUGs for HA? Last time I checked, if you don't bring your cookie cutter build and no vent, you suck. And even when I HAD both, I still wasn't accepted because I had no r3... Yet I have 1 mill faction, so I'm obviously no noob at PvP. But hey, that's like the working world of today. No college degree, no job, right?
And in what way am I trying to convicne people to play WoW? All I said was I played it, so in no way was I even stating any facts or opinions about the game. I still to this day don't understand why people bash the game, everyone thinks because so many people play it and you pay for a fee that it automatically sucks. It's a very good game, believe me, and there is loads of content to keep someone busy for a while.
Same thing with WoW, people in there think "omg lvl 20, wat nubs, crap game" when they obviously have no experience in it. I love it when people say "yea i played WoW i had like, a night elf warrior ranger (lol, no rangers in WoW), and it sucks" or "yea i had a lvl 20 in like 2 days in GW"... People are so naive... I guess I'm one of the few who likes both. But it just seems Guild Wars isn't as fresh anymore, maybe because I've played for so long. I will give GW2 a try of course.
People view the 2 as competetors, whereas I view it as 2 good games for myself to play and enjoy.
Antheus
Despite "GW dying" or "being dead already", there's a steady influx of new players. As it happens, most of them PUG.
Meanwhile, the veteran players have settled through various guilds, play with people they know, and fill the spots with heroes. Or do everything with H/H.
So yes, people still PUG. But these days, you cannot expect much, the only exceptions are select few areas, such as Slaver's, where the chance to get a decent PUG are slightly higher.
Whether GW is alive or dead is mostly irrelevant - but as MMOGs go, it's an old game. And as such, players change.
But this truly is the best answer:
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Funny. Last time I joined a PUG, I asked them to wait so I could set my build. Someone went in anyway, which meant I was really well prepared, with one single skill on my bar, namely rez sig.
Meanwhile, the veteran players have settled through various guilds, play with people they know, and fill the spots with heroes. Or do everything with H/H.
So yes, people still PUG. But these days, you cannot expect much, the only exceptions are select few areas, such as Slaver's, where the chance to get a decent PUG are slightly higher.
Whether GW is alive or dead is mostly irrelevant - but as MMOGs go, it's an old game. And as such, players change.
But this truly is the best answer:
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short answer: yes long answer: no |
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mr_groovy
I was invited in to a pug just now Idling in Chantry of Secrets
I said "Hi, what we all up to?" in team chat. No direct awnser (possibly uw). No role (build) description, no nothing.
Then I asked "Zomg I wunt to c ur l33d skillaz plzz." Then the most horrible builds came over the team chat. (Including a monk build with Healing + Minions w00t)
Pugging? I think not.
I said "Hi, what we all up to?" in team chat. No direct awnser (possibly uw). No role (build) description, no nothing.
Then I asked "Zomg I wunt to c ur l33d skillaz plzz." Then the most horrible builds came over the team chat. (Including a monk build with Healing + Minions w00t)
Pugging? I think not.
EPO Bot
I usually pug for missions, but only if enough people are in the area to actually make one.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by mr_groovy
I was invited in to a pug just now Idling in Chantry of Secrets
I said "Hi, what we all up to?" in team chat. No direct awnser (possibly uw). No role (build) description, no nothing. Then I asked "Zomg I wunt to c ur l33d skillaz plzz." Then the most horrible builds came over the team chat. (Including a monk build with Healing + Minions w00t) Pugging? I think not. |
Problem with Pugs is leadership, aggro management, squishes in melee range
mr_groovy
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Yea but to be fair them kind of bars don't come up that often.
Problem with Pugs is leadership, aggro management, squishes in melee range |
Then there's the pug that actually works, where people communicate, and give out roles to follow. Mostly these pugs I only find, when I create them
. Good pug == good leader in party 
Croco Clouds
I remember last year's summer was PuG wars in faction, it was like we can't beat the game without any PuG
DarkGanni
A thread I can finally say what I think about pugs, pugs = full of retards. I was forming a CLEAROUT fow group today afternoon, asked everyone if they all got like 3hrs time, checked builds and corrected some, however there are those typical idiots: one of them asks if we can do the beach I reply we'll do it later and 14yr old or probably even less as he was he quits, some other guy says sorry I have to go. So I learned my lesson, PUGS = EPIC FAIL *point*
- Ganni
- Ganni
Malice Black
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A thread I can finally say what I think about pugs, pugs = full of retards. I was forming a CLEAROUT fow group today afternoon, asked everyone if they all got like 3hrs time, checked builds and corrected some, however there are those typical idiots: one of them asks if we can do the beach I reply we'll do it later and 14yr old or probably even less as he was he quits, some other guy says sorry I have to go. So I learned my lesson, PUGS = EPIC FAIL *point*
- Ganni |
Wretchman Drake
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Originally Posted by Croco Clouds
I remember last year's summer was PuG wars in faction, it was like we can't beat the game without any PuG
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P.S. did you know WoW has Heroic (hard) Mode first? I think anet is starting to lose originality. And the fact Gaile Gray thinks we're the only ones who says the word "nerf" is almost embarrasing.
arcady
I PUG all the time. Heroes have lessoned the social aspects of the game, and thinned out the selection of what sorts of players and characters I can PUG with, but they haven't killed it.
I enjoy PUGing, even though the Hero AI is superior to the average player in terms of skill. For some classes that includes me, so this is not just another 'pretentious I'm better than all you clods' claim.
I do my quests solo with Heroes, but I PUG missions, or try to. Only two missions in the last two or three weeks that I've solo'd - both by choice. One because I wanted to cap Zealous Benediction and didn't want anyone complaining about me focusing on that over the goals, the second was last night, Moddok Crevice, and was the first time the only other person looking for groups in a mission was charging people 2k to get into his group - and so I just chose to be anti-social.
I enjoy PUGing, even though the Hero AI is superior to the average player in terms of skill. For some classes that includes me, so this is not just another 'pretentious I'm better than all you clods' claim.
I do my quests solo with Heroes, but I PUG missions, or try to. Only two missions in the last two or three weeks that I've solo'd - both by choice. One because I wanted to cap Zealous Benediction and didn't want anyone complaining about me focusing on that over the goals, the second was last night, Moddok Crevice, and was the first time the only other person looking for groups in a mission was charging people 2k to get into his group - and so I just chose to be anti-social.
dont feel no pain
Pve -
Simple fast mission = Me + Hero + Hench
Hard + Boring Missions = *calls friend up and does dual heroes*
Simple fast mission = Me + Hero + Hench
Hard + Boring Missions = *calls friend up and does dual heroes*
Sir Green Aluminum
Heroes to get stuff done with one or two reliable players (who also bring heros), Pugs to see how funny people can be. Even though it's an online game I like having the option to be self-reliant to do stuff instead of waiting half an hr or more for some snob healer.
You kind of lose the sense of you being there when the cutscenes only show the party leader talking and you're in a sea of 7 other people saying stuff like HEAL ME, Attack the healer! I am attacking ____ (Repeatedly) Hay wut is ur build (so I kan steal it!!)
You kind of lose the sense of you being there when the cutscenes only show the party leader talking and you're in a sea of 7 other people saying stuff like HEAL ME, Attack the healer! I am attacking ____ (Repeatedly) Hay wut is ur build (so I kan steal it!!)
Trub
Um..MB hun?THAT was an attempted alliance get-to-know you run we did about a month ago?
E P I C fail!!!(Except the fact I got 6 shards, and a perfect grinning recurve)
But, we did complete it...
*gets herself back on topic*
PUGS are an excellent source of honing, and challenging your skills.
Not highly recommended as a social meeting tool, but very good for some off the wall fun, and if you fail...just solo when they rage quit.
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PvE Helpful Hint #1692: Impressive Wart hog's do NOT fly.
Malice Black
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Um..MB hun?THAT was an attempted alliance get-to-know you run we did about a month ago? E P I C fail!!!(Except the fact I got 6 shards, and a perfect grinning recurve) But, we did complete it... *gets herself back on topic* PUGS are an excellent source of honing, and challenging your skills. Not highly recommended as a social meeting tool, but very good for some off the wall fun, and if you fail...just solo when they rage quit. _________________ PvE Helpful Hint #1692: Impressive Wart hog's do NOT fly. |
wasn't talking about that FoW clearance..was before that 
I got 3/4 shards in that clearance
Trub
^Ahhhhhh...okies.
*hugz*
I still blame Knoll yanno...and that Roab fellah.
PUGS....I think I'll go join one now...and clear THK like old times..
*hugz*
I still blame Knoll yanno...and that Roab fellah.
PUGS....I think I'll go join one now...and clear THK like old times..
cebalrai
New players with little experience and few resources PUG. Experienced players H/H 99% of the time, occasionally grouping with others for dungeons or the more challenging missions.
So yeah, GW is mostly a solo RPG nowadays.
So yeah, GW is mostly a solo RPG nowadays.
Malice Black
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^Ahhhhhh...okies.
*hugz* I still blame Knoll yanno...and that Roab fellah. PUGS....I think I'll go join one now...and clear THK like old times.. |
Trub
But MB..it's a learning tool for those that I team with!
You can't imagine how many times I have assisted 'new' players thru this area, always asking them before we go: "You are infused....right?"
Only to have them 1 hit killed when the first Murssat shows up....><
I will continue to help the new players....but it is getting frustrating.
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PvE Helpful Hint #1542# Dragons are NOT tamable as pets.
You can't imagine how many times I have assisted 'new' players thru this area, always asking them before we go: "You are infused....right?"
Only to have them 1 hit killed when the first Murssat shows up....><
I will continue to help the new players....but it is getting frustrating.
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PvE Helpful Hint #1542# Dragons are NOT tamable as pets.
Grammar
I still PuG on occasion, particularly in GWEN dungeons which are tons of fun.
BTW, as painful as it is to see your PuG-mates ping those terrible builds, they really don't matter much in normal mode PvE if your team has proper aggro management. You can win with the crappiest builds imaginable in normal mode PvE if your aggro management is proper.
Factors for success in a PuGs in normal mode PvE, in descending order of importance:
1. Aggo management
2. Leadership
3. Strategy
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127. Builds
128. Everything else
So hating on PuGs because of their crappy builds is really pointless. Sure, you can give some (non-elitist) friendly advice/suggestions/tips here and there for how they can improve their builds, but what makes a crappy PuG truly crappy is poor aggro management, not their builds.
For this reason, PuGs which you start and lead usually fare better than random PuGs that invite you, because as the leader you should have more control over dictating aggro and strategy.
BTW, as painful as it is to see your PuG-mates ping those terrible builds, they really don't matter much in normal mode PvE if your team has proper aggro management. You can win with the crappiest builds imaginable in normal mode PvE if your aggro management is proper.
Factors for success in a PuGs in normal mode PvE, in descending order of importance:
1. Aggo management
2. Leadership
3. Strategy
.
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127. Builds
128. Everything else
So hating on PuGs because of their crappy builds is really pointless. Sure, you can give some (non-elitist) friendly advice/suggestions/tips here and there for how they can improve their builds, but what makes a crappy PuG truly crappy is poor aggro management, not their builds.
For this reason, PuGs which you start and lead usually fare better than random PuGs that invite you, because as the leader you should have more control over dictating aggro and strategy.
Malice Black
Ah I see...should teach Ractoe how to play, he epic fails...him and his paragon
BlackSephir
Why PUG when I can go with h/h who are more intelligent and mature than average PUGger?
Tho' I often see people "lfg blahblah", standing there, looking for people because they want to do a mision with bonus. I complete the mission + bonus and they are still there with "lfg"...
Poor creatures.
Tho' I often see people "lfg blahblah", standing there, looking for people because they want to do a mision with bonus. I complete the mission + bonus and they are still there with "lfg"...
Poor creatures.
badfish34668
PUG groups are for scrubs. get a guildie, and use 6 heroes.
gg
gg
Trub
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So hating on PuGs because of their crappy builds is really pointless. Sure, you can give some (non-elitist) friendly advice/suggestions/tips here and there for how they can improve their builds, but what makes a crappy PuG truly crappy is poor aggro management, not their builds. For this reason, PuGs which you start and lead usually fare better than random PuGs that invite you, because as the leader you should have more control over dictating aggro and strategy. |
But:
I don't kick players from my team for 'crappy' builds. because quite honestly..there are no crappy builds in NM.
And MOST of my builds are a bit unusual to say the least.
All I ask is that when you team with complete strangers is: Don't be an ass. If you are asked a question from the leader of the team...just answer honestly.
(Most of us leading a PUG team aren't trying to amuse ourselves with your discomfort or possible embarassment of feeling 'n00bish'.)
If you don't know what a certain term like 'infused' means...speak up please.
Believe me, you can pick and choose what team you will join, it is a game of fun...not a job.
So, to kinda wrap it all up until I feel like harassing MB again...I say this:
PUGS are kinda fun..it's the trolls and lvl 2-8 ran nubs that ruin it for the rest.
*hugz-n-cookies*
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Wretchman Drake
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Originally Posted by badfish34668
PUG groups are for scrubs. get a guildie, and use 6 heroes.
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Darkobra
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Originally Posted by Antheus
Funny. Last time I joined a PUG, I asked them to wait so I could set my build. Someone went in anyway, which meant I was really well prepared, with one single skill on my bar, namely rez sig.
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"Great. Now unless you can SOLO this mission..."
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
So this pretty much supports the fact Anet turned GW into a single player/co-op RPG.
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The only solution would be to remove stupid people from the game but that's hardly possible.
Malice Black
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Almost my point exactly.
But: I don't kick players from my team for 'crappy' builds. because quite honestly..there are no crappy builds in NM. And MOST of my builds are a bit unusual to say the least. All I ask is that when you team with complete strangers is: Don't be an ass. If you are asked a question from the leader of the team...just answer honestly. (Most of us leading a PUG team aren't trying to amuse ourselves with your discomfort or possible embarassment of feeling 'n00bish'.) If you don't know what a certain term like 'infused' means...speak up please. Believe me, you can pick and choose what team you will join, it is a game of fun...not a job. So, to kinda wrap it all up until I feel like harassing MB again...I say this: PUGS are kinda fun..it's the trolls and lvl 2-8 ran nubs that ruin it for the rest. *hugz-n-cookies* ______________ PvE Helpful Hint #2419: Necr0s DO eat babies. |
somebody cried so it had to be removed..As for people who get ru everywhere \/
Best thing about Pugs is people in fissure with utter trash builds..once met a W/A in fissure using daggers
