Waiting to steal drops
Archer_Of_Vulpes
ok so today i did a PUG for lb/ss farm (first mistake) but at the end i was the only one with no golds. so they open the boss shrine and we kill hauseh the defiler, at the same time my mom accidentally cuts herself. so i leave the comp to go help her out. long story short hauseh dropped 2 golds for me, one was elite necro tome and while evry1 else left 1 guy waited out and took my elite necro tome and the other gold. it has also happened to me before with a icy dragon sword when i was testing a build and went with a group. so here's my question, do you guys wait it out and steal the drops or let ppl keep what's assigned to them?
Lord Sojar
I stole your drops, thanks for the 4 piles of glittering dust. Waste of my scamming time....
But really, this is nothing new. We have a pretty dismal evil community in game. Finding an honest helpful player is like getting a good gold drop... I will let you finish that thought.
But really, this is nothing new. We have a pretty dismal evil community in game. Finding an honest helpful player is like getting a good gold drop... I will let you finish that thought.
lg5000
They still do that??
I can't figure out why you'd want to hang around for the 5+ minutes it takes to clear the drop... in that time, I can kill more things and stand a chance of getting my own decent drop.
I can't figure out why you'd want to hang around for the 5+ minutes it takes to clear the drop... in that time, I can kill more things and stand a chance of getting my own decent drop.
Zeek Aran
...It took you 10+ minutes to do whatever in real life? Then you obviously have bigger issues.
I have done this before. I then spammed the guy constantly until he came back, and I delivered the items back to him just so someone less honest than me wouldn't steal. I did this mainly during the last festival with the presents.
Anyway, if people scam in pre to get the black dye drops of noobs, and people rip 500g off a person on a fake Droks run... or steal accounts... this surprises you?
I have done this before. I then spammed the guy constantly until he came back, and I delivered the items back to him just so someone less honest than me wouldn't steal. I did this mainly during the last festival with the presents.
Anyway, if people scam in pre to get the black dye drops of noobs, and people rip 500g off a person on a fake Droks run... or steal accounts... this surprises you?
Lord Sojar
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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran
...It took you 10+ minutes to do whatever in real life? Then you obviously have bigger issues.
I have done this before. I then spammed the guy constantly until he came back, and I delivered the items back to him just so someone less honest than me wouldn't steal. I did this mainly during the last festival with the presents. Anyway, if people scam in pre to get the black dye drops of noobs, and people rip 500g off a person on a fake Droks run... or steal accounts... this surprises you? |
http://www.thiswillnotbeakeyloggerIp...aveacookie.com
It is under the Page Not found thing, considering my webhost is someguy named Bubba that said I had to pay in "other" ways... EEEK.
btw, for those of you that don't bother to go to the website, here is what it says.
www. thiswillnotbeakeyloggeripromiseomfghaxforguildwars awesomestuffgogohaveacookie .com.
RPGmaniac
I guess you could call me one of those gold drops then because I never steal other people's drops like that. It's pointless to wait around for 10 minutes over a block of gold text in a video game when it doesn't even really belong to you.
And I've only had this happen to me once... you know who you are...
We have a winner!
And I've only had this happen to me once... you know who you are...
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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Droks runs.... lolz. Steal accounts....*cough* SHHHH, my bot ring must survive. Go to my website and download my speed hack and item duplicator.
http://www.thiswillnotbeakeyloggerIp...aveacookie.com It is under the Page Not found thing, considering my webhost is someguy named Bubba that said I had to pay in "other" ways... EEEK. btw, for those of you that don't bother to go to the website, here is what it says. www. thiswillnotbeakeyloggeripromiseomfghaxforguildwars awesomestuffgogohaveacookie .com. |
arcady
The other way to look at this is that the person, after waiting all that time, may have assumed you were not coming back.
5 minutes is a long time to go afk in a mission, and its a safe bet that if someone does, they won't return. Even if they say ahead of time that they will, often after that much time they won't.
5 minutes is a long time to go afk in a mission, and its a safe bet that if someone does, they won't return. Even if they say ahead of time that they will, often after that much time they won't.
Legendary Shiz
I'd steal your shit, why not?
Say what you will, but it's free and I have a motto with free stuff. Take as much as you can.
If you don't pick it up after 10 minutes you SHOULD lose all rights to it, you're simply being neglectful.
Say what you will, but it's free and I have a motto with free stuff. Take as much as you can.
If you don't pick it up after 10 minutes you SHOULD lose all rights to it, you're simply being neglectful.
Spazzer
You walked away from your PUG for over 10 minutes. This is why I don't PUG.
pumpkin pie
I remember when this used to happen a lot, in tomb of primeval kings.
there was this necro character who keep causing other players to die whom we all thought (the other 7) were a noob. at the end he refused to ressurect us took away my victo's axe. and all other available greens belonging to other players
lol not that I needed the axe, I still have 3 victo's axe that my heroes are using now. but %#@$#%$%@%$ thats also kinda why I like heroes/henchies more.
what are OP? by the way.
Thanks below 2 posters for the answers
there was this necro character who keep causing other players to die whom we all thought (the other 7) were a noob. at the end he refused to ressurect us took away my victo's axe. and all other available greens belonging to other players
what are OP? by the way.
Thanks below 2 posters for the answers
Winterclaw
Original Poster
1 up and 2 down
pumpkin OP= Opening Post
The way I see it, is if the guy needs the gold so bad then he can have it.
The way I see it, is if the guy needs the gold so bad then he can have it.
dread pirate fargus
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You walked away from your PUG for over 10 minutes. This is why I don't PUG.
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ヽ(??ー｀)ﾉ
I would pick up any unclaimed items.
MoldyRiceFrenzy
o... ur not suppose to do that?
Smile Like Umean It
Wait, so you guys decided to take on a boss and just as the fight got going your mom cut herself and you had to C-Space and tend to her? If that's the case, then I don't really think he did anything wrong.
If you helped, but had to run out before he was totally dead, then yeah, the guy was jerk, but technically not in the wrong.
I personally wouldn't have done it. In fact I've camped an item for people so I could get it before the greedy assholes in the group got it then tell em to meet me later to get it. Or Leeroy a group to try and get the other person ressed so they can pick it up themselves before it's too late.
Regardless, whether it's right or wrong is a matter of opinion.
It's open for debate.
If you helped, but had to run out before he was totally dead, then yeah, the guy was jerk, but technically not in the wrong.
I personally wouldn't have done it. In fact I've camped an item for people so I could get it before the greedy assholes in the group got it then tell em to meet me later to get it. Or Leeroy a group to try and get the other person ressed so they can pick it up themselves before it's too late.
Regardless, whether it's right or wrong is a matter of opinion.
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Originally Posted by MoldyRiceFrenzy
o... ur not suppose to do that?
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Archer_Of_Vulpes
yeah w/e, next time i'll purposely go "afk" for 9 minutes 59 seconds then go pick up my drop and make the next guy look like a jckass
william1975
i wouldn;t wait around for 10 mins to get some measly gold drops, i have better things to do. Also just because someone has to attend to something important doesnt give anyone the right to go and take their things.
an analogous situation here would be if someone leaves theri home unattended for 10 days because of a family crisis and doesnt get back until 11 days later does that give everyone on their street the right to take everything from their house on the tenth day?
an analogous situation here would be if someone leaves theri home unattended for 10 days because of a family crisis and doesnt get back until 11 days later does that give everyone on their street the right to take everything from their house on the tenth day?
Hyper.nl
It's not stealing. Drops get assigned for a reason. You were simply AFK. That's the problem. If drops are not being grabbed withing the really reasonable assignment time they are just free for anyone to get.
You surely did the right thing by addressing the real-life thing first, but don't complain afterwards.
You surely did the right thing by addressing the real-life thing first, but don't complain afterwards.
Wolf2581
I am responsible for only myself in the game, and I pick up everything that drops for me. If I do not have room, I make room. It is not my responsibility to make sure everyone else picks up his loot. If something serious had happened which forced the player to leave long enough for the item to go unassigned, he has better things to worry about anyway besides that black dye or that elite tome.
I hope you are not serious about this.
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Originally Posted by william1975
an analogous situation here would be if someone leaves theri home unattended for 10 days because of a family crisis and doesnt get back until 11 days later does that give everyone on their street the right to take everything from their house on the tenth day?
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Tommy McTom
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Originally Posted by william1975
i wouldn;t wait around for 10 mins to get some measly gold drops, i have better things to do. Also just because someone has to attend to something important doesnt give anyone the right to go and take their things.
an analogous situation here would be if someone leaves theri home unattended for 10 days because of a family crisis and doesnt get back until 11 days later does that give everyone on their street the right to take everything from their house on the tenth day? |
Viruzzz
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Originally Posted by william1975
i wouldn;t wait around for 10 mins to get some measly gold drops, i have better things to do. Also just because someone has to attend to something important doesnt give anyone the right to go and take their things.
an analogous situation here would be if someone leaves theri home unattended for 10 days because of a family crisis and doesnt get back until 11 days later does that give everyone on their street the right to take everything from their house on the tenth day? |
so you can't compare it like that.
Marth Reynolds
Moehaha i guess i'm somewhat evil, in the deep i normally pick up rares if i get the chance ^^
but i mostly give them to the guy/girl it dropped for, unless he/she has been away 30 mins or more without a valid reason (and with valid i mean a accident happend etc, but not that you had to go eat at 6 pm as usual all of a sudden...)
but i mostly give them to the guy/girl it dropped for, unless he/she has been away 30 mins or more without a valid reason
Harmless
It used to be five minutes before drops became unassigned, when did they change that?
Before they changed THK to have fewer mobs, a group that I knew did the mission with a couple of pugs. I had a gold drop but didn't stop fighting to run get it. It would have aggroed a bunch if I had. One of the pugs grabbed the gold when the five minutes was up. He was quite proud of himself.
Lesson learned. When pugs are in a group leroy to your good drops.
Before they changed THK to have fewer mobs, a group that I knew did the mission with a couple of pugs. I had a gold drop but didn't stop fighting to run get it. It would have aggroed a bunch if I had. One of the pugs grabbed the gold when the five minutes was up. He was quite proud of himself.
Lesson learned. When pugs are in a group leroy to your good drops.
SotiCoto
I have a fairly solid principle with these things:
#1. If the person is away for 10 minutes and they've left anything behind... whether rare or not... I will loot it.
#2. If they ask for it back, I will give it back to them, and I will not run away from them. If they don't ask then naturally I'll just keep it.
#3. If it was a gold, they'll get it back ID'd.... I consider that the price for them leaving it there for 10 minutes. =P
#1. If the person is away for 10 minutes and they've left anything behind... whether rare or not... I will loot it.
#2. If they ask for it back, I will give it back to them, and I will not run away from them. If they don't ask then naturally I'll just keep it.
#3. If it was a gold, they'll get it back ID'd.... I consider that the price for them leaving it there for 10 minutes. =P
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
I have a fairly solid principle with these things:
#1. If the person is away for 20 minutes and they've left anything behind... whether rare or not... I will loot it. #2. If they ask for it back, I will give it back to them, and I will not run away from them. If they don't ask then naturally I'll just keep it. #3. If it was a gold, they'll get it back ID'd.... I consider that the price for them leaving it there for 10 minutes. =P |
(sometimes I wish there was an "honorable" buff to balance the "dishonorable" hex, but it is NOT something that should be done, as it opens so many problems ...)
I wish that these selfish people were able to see beyond the tip of their feet when they walk. In the end, it will come back at them anyway, though it can be very irritating (I mean, who could foresee your mother cut herself ... no need to report her!
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moko
am i the only one that thinks the fact that his mother is an emo is of higher interest to discuss?
i'd steal your drops, i generally am very unlucky also so any chance to get something free is nice. and if the person would return i'd act like i was a nice person waiting for them in case they dc and save their drops! lol right:<
(emo mum)
i'd steal your drops, i generally am very unlucky also so any chance to get something free is nice. and if the person would return i'd act like i was a nice person waiting for them in case they dc and save their drops! lol right:<
(emo mum)
Cebe
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
#1. If the person is away for 20 minutes and they've left anything behind... whether rare or not... I will loot it.
#2. If they ask for it back, I will give it back to them, and I will not run away from them. If they don't ask then naturally I'll just keep it. |
As for the /afk-ness of people...I think there needs to be some etiquette in that, if someone SAYS they're going afk for a few minutes, all drops for them should be left, in particular valuable drops, just out of common courtesy. Likewise if someone looses communication with the server. I wouldn't ever touch anyone's drops anyway (since I don't pick up my own white drops, why should I bother with other people's?) unless they specifically ask me and trust me enough to hold onto something.
Steboy93
Generlly speaking, if somebody didn't pick up there drop after 20mins i would pick it up. The people i have a problem with are the ones which refuse to res you so they can pick up your drops, that is just sad ...
Rushin Roulette
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(sometimes I wish there was an "honorable" buff to balance the "dishonorable" hex
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But back on topic;
Thats about what I do aswell Sotico.
1. wait till its unbound pick up and ID if gold
2. if the player asks for it back... they get it if they are still in the party (see exception below).
3. if they dissapear from the party... tough luck (with the exception of someone who says they crashed as its not their fault).
4. If the drop was for a guildy/friend I will ask them if they want it (after IDing and its a good one no matter what the colour... Vent FTW
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SotiCoto
It is interesting to have people agree with me for once... but it is definitely a good thing here. Everybody needs standards of fair play.
And besides... if someone asks for something back that they couldn't get to because real life called for 10 minutes or so... they're not going to like you very much NOR want to team with you again if you deny them it. Believe it or not, I don't much like to rub people up the wrong way if they didn't do anything to deserve it. In the long-run, the cost is far more than the gain.
*Sn!ggers*
Crawling in my skin, these wounds they will not heal.
Much lawlz abounding.
And besides... if someone asks for something back that they couldn't get to because real life called for 10 minutes or so... they're not going to like you very much NOR want to team with you again if you deny them it. Believe it or not, I don't much like to rub people up the wrong way if they didn't do anything to deserve it. In the long-run, the cost is far more than the gain.
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am i the only one that thinks the fact that his mother is an emo is of higher interest to discuss?
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Crawling in my skin, these wounds they will not heal.
Much lawlz abounding.
TheRaven
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
I have a fairly solid principle with these things:
#1. If the person is away for 10 minutes and they've left anything behind... whether rare or not... I will loot it. #2. If they ask for it back, I will give it back to them, and I will not run away from them. If they don't ask then naturally I'll just keep it. #3. If it was a gold, they'll get it back ID'd.... I consider that the price for them leaving it there for 10 minutes. =P |
I will never steal a person's drop. If they are dead with a nice drop on the ground, I will rez them if I'm able. If I'm not able, then I'll do my best to get the drop for them and return it to the player later. I think drop stealers are despicable. Seriously, if you're that desperate for gold that you need to steal or scam from other players, that's pathetic.
I did a mission in the Deep. We split into the 4 rooms at the beginning and a nice gold drop fell for a Necro that was trapped in room 2. It took longer than 10 minutes for the rooms to be cleared and the team to re-group. While we were clearing, one of the warriors snatched the drop. A major argument broke out among the team. The warrior said he's entitled to the drop since the Necro didn't pick it up. The rest of us argued that the Necro never had a chance to reach the drop because of the room split. Worst team I ever went in there with.
On the other hand, I will pick up each and every drop on the ground that I can get my hands on. This is mainly the white and blue junk drops that a lot of players won't bother with. When I do the fow or any other long and involved mission, I'll pick up all expired unwanted drops when we backtrack thru the areas. I don't have a problem with this and I doubt anyone else does either.
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
It is interesting to have people agree with me for once... but it is definitely a good thing here.
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On the other hand, I wonder whether people would actually ask to give back the drop, maybe some feel intimidated or fear retaliation. And I also imagine that you, playing fair, would encounter angry people ... until they shout at you and you give it back to them (and then it's about whether or not their memory will work at that moment, if not they'll just go back to their "normal" life
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Rushin Roulette
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
It is interesting to have people agree with me for once...
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But yea, you have to be fair to players if you want to get any form of friendslist together... I dont konw how many times Ive overlooked a green because heros/henchies/players were standing around it and it just dissapeared in the green "mass" (might be an idea to change the green of either party/friendlies or unique weapons to a different colour such as dark blue).
If I see someone gets such a drop I point them to it, or as asid reserve it for them until they can actually pick it up.
Onarik Amrak
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
I have a fairly solid principle with these things:
#1. If the person is away for 10 minutes and they've left anything behind... whether rare or not... I will loot it. #2. If they ask for it back, I will give it back to them, and I will not run away from them. If they don't ask then naturally I'll just keep it. #3. If it was a gold, they'll get it back ID'd.... I consider that the price for them leaving it there for 10 minutes. =P |
Big_Iron
I'm surprised only one person stayed behind to loot the spoils.
TheRaven
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
It is interesting to have people agree with me for once... but it is definitely a good thing here. Everybody needs standards of fair play.
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OMG!! I agreed with Soti twice in one day.
(I saw the closed spelling and grammar post and I agree there too). The world is coming to an end. I'm sure this must be one of the horseman of the apocalypse.
Antheus
Your mother cuts herself. AND YOU THINK ABOUT A GOLD DROP?
Meh, I'd report them for leeching as well.
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Sleeper Service
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Your mother cuts herself. AND YOU THINK ABOUT A GOLD DROP?
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real life is more important than GW...sheesh.
crazy diamond
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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
real life is more important than GW...sheesh.
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