Shiro Invincible? o.O

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Did Arena Net change Shiro? He seemed a lot harder than he used to be.

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

Wild Blow is needed to take out Battle Scars. This stance gives him life steal equal to the highest amount of damage he takes...add to that his double striking ability and just the amount of times he hits things, well, I've seen good parties go down because the tank forgot to bring Wild Blow and get rid of this stance.

Meditation of the Reaper can be a pain (this is when he sits corss-legged, floating in the air). You cannot really stop this, you can only hope to end it as soon as possible. The best way to do that is:

Bring an E/Me with Arcane Echo, Echo [E] and Celestial Storm. The way you use it is Arcane Echo -> Echo -> Celestial Storm -> Echo (from Arcane Echo) -> Celesital Storm (from Echo) -> Celestial Storm (from Arcane Echo). I personally also bring along Glyph of Sacrifice and Meteor Shower, Meteor and Fireball, but that's just me. What you then do is that after hitting Shiro with the Celestial Storms (note the plural) you then change targets to the summoned Shiro'ken and hit him with the insta-MS (thanks to the Glyph), then the other spells until the thing drops. Killing it will give you a morale boost (!) which will refresh your 3 copies of Celesital Storm, giving you 3 more (for a total of 6) to use against Shiro.

If you do this right, you generally don't need monks as Shiro will be dead before anyone really needs healing. Just pin/body block him in place and beat him down with the skills given to you by Kuunvang. Ritualists, Dervishes and Paragons actually help a fair amount with this, as the skill they get deals damage and protects the entire party for a decent amount of damage.

Note: there really aren't any bad classes to bring on this mission as they're all very powerful. The trick is that Heroes don't get them and the Hench don't use them very well (but at least they get them). If you can manage to find a human group, sometimes that helps.

Vanessa Hudgens Ftw

Vanessa Hudgens Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Denmark GMT+1 // My Room <3

Mixed Allstars [合Ma合]

Mo/Me

Where do you mean . in Gates of madness Or in last mission in factions ?

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In Factions the last mission... Been trying for hours =*(

Perhaps some bug?

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

Meditation of the reaper is in factions, you have to have dmg to kill hit him for 500 or so quickly while he just sits there. Go go go Celestial storm

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

Still think he's invincible?

ParanoidDenny

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

EOM

I use a "Wild strike" Sin to get rid of his stances, use that with a warrior with wild blow and he should go down, i normally have a 90% success rate doing it that way.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

you can still use 8 warriors to rush him and hit their celestial skill. Drops ihm in seconds.

Vanessa Hudgens Ftw

Vanessa Hudgens Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Denmark GMT+1 // My Room <3

Mixed Allstars [合Ma合]

Mo/Me

dude whos maybe running 8 wars in that mission i dont think any1 would do it :]

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

I just owned him with Moebius + Death Blossom :-/

Woop Shotty

Woop Shotty

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ruthless Mafia [RM]

Mo/

He's so easy. Eles can even triple Celestial nuke him. That's total ownage. TOTAL ownage.

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanessa Hudgens Ftw
dude whos maybe running 8 wars in that mission i dont think any1 would do it :] Well, not long after factions was released the most popular method used to beat him be people struggling using other means was to simply take as many warriors as you can, body block him and then all hit storm of swords.
With 6 warriors thats 900 damage a second for 15 seconds for a total of 13500 damage.

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

and if they had echo they could double that amount! 0.o

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

solo sin :P

so easy :P

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

Barbs and Celestial Horrors, applied with many physical attackers. I got banished straight away and the mission finished while I was running up the mountain. A good Curses Necro can lead to a very quick mission, with the right back-up of course.

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

errr...does this work on him..?

[skill]Grenth's Balance[/skill]

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanessa Hudgens Ftw
dude whos maybe running 8 wars in that mission i dont think any1 would do it :] Well, I did it. I can tell you, the most powerful method to own him, got him in 20-30 secs or less. Storm of Swords->ownage

isamu kurosawa

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanessa Hudgens Ftw
dude whos maybe running 8 wars in that mission i dont think any1 would do it :]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dronte
Well, I did it. I can tell you, the most powerful method to own him, got him in 20-30 secs or less. Storm of Swords->ownage Told you so

elektra_lucia

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

Mo/

I just run enough warriors to chain the elite thingy you get. Even if you're a caster, you have to stand around him.

Estic

Estic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

Bring an assassin... Six celestial horrors are nice to have with you in combo with Storm of Swords.

xvix83

xvix83

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Singapore (GMT +8)

Well, i runned that mission for tips with my 3heroes in HM<-- and NM when im low in cash...i cant really tell u the builds but with careful thinking u guys can come up with one urself. i need the other people to help too, too bad they cant afk..if they co-operate, its 99.999% masters in <1min

P.S: i think im gonna run this mission again since i needed cash to buy a destroyer bow and a bow of the hierophant, if u guys need any run, i can run u for tips...just pm me in guru and btw, my time zone is GMT+8 S'pore..zzz

Bouldershoulder

Bouldershoulder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Jagged Strike
Wild Strike
Death Blossom
Live Vicariously
Critical Defense
Critical Agility
Critical Eye
Way of the Assassin {Elite}

Solo sin, get someone who has it. Enjoy.

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

[ITPR]

W/

Lol, what do you mean wiki way doesn't work. I took my Warrior, 3 Warrior Heroes, 2 Warrior Henchmen, 2 Necro Henchmen, and owned him.

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

No idea if OP has completed this, but here's my story. I've defeated Shiro before with 3 different characters without any problems using henchies. Returning to GW after almost a year away, I recreated an assassin (previous sin was deleted after completing Factions in favour of an Ele). Reached Shiro last night, and guildie and I (with heroes) had a tough time with him. Lost count on the number of times we failed. We finally managed to beat him twice though with standard reward - second time had to be done because idiot me didn't bring enough materials for Elite Cantha armour.

Don't recall Shiro being so difficult, and I did think he got buffed up since.

Anyway, in my trip through Factions again (normal mode), I got Masters in all the missions first time and I really wanted to get Masters for this mission.

Loaded up this morning and took the following team.

1. Monk Hero - LoD + Holy Haste, and some Protection;
2. Monk Necro - Spoil Victor, Insidious Parasite and Reckless Haste.
3. Devona
4. Lukas
5. Sheena
6. Seaguard Hala
7. Kai Ying

Took the celestial skill and went in. Defeated Shiro first go without a problem and got Master. I thought it was just luck, so I went in again with the same setup. This time a little longer than previous run, Shiro didn't seem to like me, as I spent most of the time eating dirt and waiting for res. Nevertheless, did it in 2:24 which is Master.

I did browse Wiki for tips and the advice there does work.

MercenaryKnight

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

My word of advice is do this with just hero/hench. Me and my girlfriend tried it together and he would constantly banish us and do meditation of the reaper nearly non stop. We had ss, sv and even a blinder ele all on him but he'd just manage to use meditation of the reaper every time he's near death and then battle scars to heal up.

However he doesn't use either just about if you go alone with hero/hench.

Rugal

Rugal

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Wallachia

Defenders of Existence

N/W

EDIT: Nevermind.

ensoriki

ensoriki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada bro.

A/D

N/W
Spoil Victor
Wild Blow (lol)
Enfeeble
Insidious Parasite

Everything else is filler really

2 necros 1 with spiteful spirit 1 with Spoil victor.
bring a mesmer too (the hench 1 is fine) he can use Empathy which has just been buffed so Shiro will go down even faster now.

or

Arcane Echo, Echo,Celestial Storm.
Bring multiple eles with that, and maybe 1 with umm a water snare
1 with like ...WILD BLOW

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

just make up a team that has : stance remover, blind, sv, ss, empathy, and possibly monk with heal party+healer's boon.

you'll be cruising.....

Divinity Sword

Divinity Sword

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Washington

Dragons of the Rose

R/

Tank + Spoil Victor + Rit spirit spammer = death to shiro.

xx hells paladin xx

xx hells paladin xx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

virginia

No your a towel [hiGh]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xvix83
Well, i runned that mission for tips with my 3heroes in HM<-- and NM when im low in cash...i cant really tell u the builds but with careful thinking u guys can come up with one urself. i need the other people to help too, too bad they cant afk..if they co-operate, its 99.999% masters in <1min

P.S: i think im gonna run this mission again since i needed cash to buy a destroyer bow and a bow of the hierophant, if u guys need any run, i can run u for tips...just pm me in guru and btw, my time zone is GMT+8 S'pore..zzz y the **** would u wanna buy a green bow

The Way Out

The Way Out

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

In my peanut brain

Zomg Zombies [OMG]

Mo/E

On the Shiro topic, when you fight him and the Lich in Madness, I notice he become extremely difficult to kill once he is down in health (Battle Scars aside!). I help a lot of guild members out with killing Shiro in Factions and in Nightfall, and he can be beat. There are way too many ways to defeat him, and I am beginning to question your builds, bro!

On another note, I know you are not supposed to, but I managed to knock Shiro down in Madness. That was my highlight in guildwars PvE!

tmr819

tmr819

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinity Sword
Tank + Spoil Victor + Rit spirit spammer = death to shiro. I am just curious here, but does [skill]Shelter[/skill] protect against the (huge) damage that comes from Shiro's Meditation of the Reaper monster skill?

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

no that's life stealing.

demonatx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

We Rage [Quit]

W/Mo

u can't beat shiro?....lol

pain inverter FTW if u have it

cuz u know...with all the Protector's of Cantha out there he's not so invincible

NecroticChanter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

Toronto

Real Eyes Realize Real Lies[Tree]

P/

This is beatable with one monk.

Whirlwind

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by demonatx
u can't beat shiro?....lol

pain inverter FTW if u have it

cuz u know...with all the Protector's of Cantha out there he's not so invincible Im pretty sure pain inverter doesn't work on him. Could be wrong though.

Mouse at Large

Mouse at Large

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Small tip, if you are going to Echo the Celestial Skill, unload the first on Shiro, then dump the second on summoned creature. They act as bosses, so when they are killed - voila! all skills recharged including both Celestial skills

Psychology

Psychology

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Inside your head!!?

Liars cheats and Thieves [Liar]

W/E

Bring Wild blow, all the N/Me henchies you can get and a Mo henchman,dies QuickQuick.

I didn't have heroes at the time, but you can bring them, a sv would be nice.

Washi

Washi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

edit: nvm
12 chars

Jaythen Tyradel

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by NecroticChanter
This is beatable with one monk. True.
I took all hero/henchies:
1 Dervish-myself
2 Henchie Archers
4 Warriors.
And of course Mehnlo comes with you.
I took them in order to up my chances of being banished so I could explore for Cantha Cartographer title.
I ended up beating shiro with experts reward without even trying. >_>